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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 08:35, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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Article about footballer who made a total of 6 appearances (only 218 minutes of play) in the Portuguese second division and 2 appearances in the Portuguese league cup. Otherwise, he has only played in semi-professional Brazilian state championships (Sergipano A1 and Carioca B). His nominal play in Portuguese league and cup matches creates a presumption of notability under WP:NFOOTBALL, however, there is a longstanding consensus that such presumption is invalid when the article comprehensively fails WP:GNG. The only online English- or Portuguese-language coverage is entirely routine (match reports, transfer/injury announcements, and database entries, e.g., [1]). There is simply no in-depth coverage available. Jogurney ( talk) 21:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep - 8 appearances as a pro, numerous more as a semi-pro, and a very hard name to Google - whilst I fully agree with the nom that GNG trumps NFOOTBALL (and have voted 'delete' at borderline cases in the past), I don't think this is right here. It needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 21:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Agree with nominator that the coverage in English and Portuguese media is almost entirely WP:ROUTINE, almost to an unbelievable extent. Subject played 8 times for S.C. Freamunde on the second highest tier of the Portuguese soccer leagues. 8 times is not that many, and second highest is just about OK, so I think in this case WP:NFOOTBALL was not satisfied enough to overthrow WP:GNG. Walwal20 talk ▾ contribs 02:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Agree with GS here. Article needs improving. -- ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 09:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 22:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep meets Nfootball as above. Nfitz ( talk) 21:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - more than a borderline NFOOTY pass Spiderone 07:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 08:35, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Alex Júnior
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Article about footballer who made a total of 6 appearances (only 218 minutes of play) in the Portuguese second division and 2 appearances in the Portuguese league cup. Otherwise, he has only played in semi-professional Brazilian state championships (Sergipano A1 and Carioca B). His nominal play in Portuguese league and cup matches creates a presumption of notability under WP:NFOOTBALL, however, there is a longstanding consensus that such presumption is invalid when the article comprehensively fails WP:GNG. The only online English- or Portuguese-language coverage is entirely routine (match reports, transfer/injury announcements, and database entries, e.g., [1]). There is simply no in-depth coverage available. Jogurney ( talk) 21:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 21:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 21:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 21:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 21:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - 8 appearances as a pro, numerous more as a semi-pro, and a very hard name to Google - whilst I fully agree with the nom that GNG trumps NFOOTBALL (and have voted 'delete' at borderline cases in the past), I don't think this is right here. It needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 21:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Agree with nominator that the coverage in English and Portuguese media is almost entirely WP:ROUTINE, almost to an unbelievable extent. Subject played 8 times for S.C. Freamunde on the second highest tier of the Portuguese soccer leagues. 8 times is not that many, and second highest is just about OK, so I think in this case WP:NFOOTBALL was not satisfied enough to overthrow WP:GNG. Walwal20 talk ▾ contribs 02:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Agree with GS here. Article needs improving. -- ArsenalFan700 ( talk) 09:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 22:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep meets Nfootball as above. Nfitz ( talk) 21:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - more than a borderline NFOOTY pass Spiderone 07:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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