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The result was delete. → Call me Hahc 21 00:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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BLP on a panelist in a reality TV show. Currently only referenced with sources from the TV station and it seems hard to find more. Sam Sailor Sing 02:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete Non-notable reality television contstant. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 02:43, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Don't delete Alex Illest is the most notable 1G5G member. He is the show.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Verifyergal82 ( talk • contribs) 03:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)— Verifyergal82 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Notability on Wikipedia is a question of coverage in reliable sources, not of simply asserting that he's the most notable person on the show without any verifiable evidence to support the claim. He may be the one you like the best, but that's not what gets a person onto Wikipedia — independent coverage in real secondary sources is. Bearcat ( talk) 12:19, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete My search showed a complete lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Coverage by MTV itself doesn't count, not does discussion on a plethora of social media sites. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:47, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. For the record I previously prodded this, although the creator then disputed the prod nomination with more or less the same unsourced claim that he's the "breakout star of the show" that I took issue with above; the only new source the creator has added at all is a Livejournal post (which is still not a valid source, obviously), and I had the same lack of success as the nominator and Cullen328 in tracking down any substantive reliable source coverage at all. Bearcat ( talk) 18:53, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Redirect to 1 Girl 5 Gays. WP:TOOSOON. There's a reasonable chance Alex will ascend in WP:Reliable sources so that it becomes possible to write a decent article on him, but we're not there yet. He needs to be in interviews in reputable publications, and covered a bit in depth, like a full profile article. But he's on his way.Meanwhile there's no reason the 1 Girl 5 Gays show article he's notable for can't be where this is redirected. In fact a short cast list would probably help that article. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 05:56, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[WP:BAN 03:18, 24 March 2014 (UTC)]
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The result was delete. → Call me Hahc 21 00:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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BLP on a panelist in a reality TV show. Currently only referenced with sources from the TV station and it seems hard to find more. Sam Sailor Sing 02:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor Sing 02:42, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete Non-notable reality television contstant. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 02:43, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Don't delete Alex Illest is the most notable 1G5G member. He is the show.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Verifyergal82 ( talk • contribs) 03:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)— Verifyergal82 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Notability on Wikipedia is a question of coverage in reliable sources, not of simply asserting that he's the most notable person on the show without any verifiable evidence to support the claim. He may be the one you like the best, but that's not what gets a person onto Wikipedia — independent coverage in real secondary sources is. Bearcat ( talk) 12:19, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete My search showed a complete lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Coverage by MTV itself doesn't count, not does discussion on a plethora of social media sites. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:47, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. For the record I previously prodded this, although the creator then disputed the prod nomination with more or less the same unsourced claim that he's the "breakout star of the show" that I took issue with above; the only new source the creator has added at all is a Livejournal post (which is still not a valid source, obviously), and I had the same lack of success as the nominator and Cullen328 in tracking down any substantive reliable source coverage at all. Bearcat ( talk) 18:53, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Redirect to 1 Girl 5 Gays. WP:TOOSOON. There's a reasonable chance Alex will ascend in WP:Reliable sources so that it becomes possible to write a decent article on him, but we're not there yet. He needs to be in interviews in reputable publications, and covered a bit in depth, like a full profile article. But he's on his way.Meanwhile there's no reason the 1 Girl 5 Gays show article he's notable for can't be where this is redirected. In fact a short cast list would probably help that article. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 05:56, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[WP:BAN 03:18, 24 March 2014 (UTC)]
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