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The result was delete. Nobody actually, explicitly opposes the deletion. Sandstein 12:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Aldo Alvarez
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Assertion of notability is focussed around founding Aporta - a company which itself seems unlikely to meet WP:CORP guidelines, and about which no Wikipedia article currently exists. That just leaves a handful of foreign-language weblinks, to determine whether the individual concerned is notable per WP:BIO — I don't see these as indicative of significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources. └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 22:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as nominator └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 08:11, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment whilst not directly relevant since our policies are not identical, it's worth noting that this article was originally translated from es:Aldo Alvarez – an article on the Spanish Wikipedia which was deleted today with comment Spanish: (Mantenimiento elemental: Artículo sin relevancia enciclopédica. Wikipedia NO ES un CV. Promocional / Conflictos de interés.) └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 22:48, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I've left talk page messages for the two primary contributors User:WaltonFernan and User:Tikalmex inviting them to comment. I've also tagged the image File:Founders AldoAlvarez preview.jpg over on Commons as seemingly a copyright violation. └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 22:55, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
can you read this message? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment UkPaolo what Aldo and the company are doing is very interesting. In fact you can check on the Compays website that they have linked all interviews and media coverage on both Aldo and Aporta https://www.aporta.org.mx/que-es-aporta/videos and https://www.aporta.org.mx/que-es-aporta/aporta-en-las-noticias . The image is part of the Company and its on their media kit for anyone to use https://www.aporta.org.mx/que-es-aporta/media-kit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 23:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Firstly, to be clear this deletion discussion is about the article Aldo Alvarez here on the English language Wikipedia. I apologise for any inadvertent confusion I may have added for commenting on the copyright of the image here. That has been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, and any discussion about it's licensing should take place there. For the record, however, the page you link to states that content is made available under a creative commons BY-NC-ND license which is not acceptable for upload to Commons (or here on Wikipedia, for that matter). Back to the subject in question, I'm not disputing whether what Aldo, or his company, are doing is interesting – what's relevant to this discussion is whether he's notable for inclusion in an encyclopedia, per the guidelines at WP:BIO └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 23:26, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment UkPaolo Hi i just want to initially clarify he is an Mexican-American, lives in NYC and went to college in the USA. The company he founded Aporta, Inc is based out of NY but operates too in Mexico per this link and the own company website https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/aporta-inc#/entity. So basically he is a living person based out of the US so having an profile in english makes sense too. Let me know if you agree with this so we can move fwd with the discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 23:53, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- I think you need to hold in mind that this is an encyclopedia. We're not talking about creating a "profile" for a social media site here. The important thing is whether Aldo Alvarez is sufficiently notable to warrant an encyclopedia article. I would again encourage you to read the guidelines at WP:BIO. I don't think clarification about his nationality are relevant – it is, of course, desirable for us to have English-language Wikipedia articles on sufficiently note-worthy individuals regardless of whether they themselves speak English, or live/work in an English speaking country. The important thing here is firmly meeting notability guidelines – please read them, and if you feel Alvarez meets these criteria update the article so as to fully convey this to the reader. If you don't think he meets them then I'm sorry but there's nothing to discuss – an article would not be appropriate – this isn't LinkedIn. Might I also enquire as to whether you know Alvarez personally, and if so point you additionally at the guidelines at WP:COI. └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 08:11, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment UkPaolo I think we should have the help of editors to get the issues corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 23:09, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - I can see no notability here. If an article about his company becomes notable then I guess there might be a reason for an article about him, but even that is not guaranteed. Fails WP:GNG Velella Velella Talk 00:00, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Nobody actually, explicitly opposes the deletion. Sandstein 12:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Aldo Alvarez
- Aldo Alvarez ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Assertion of notability is focussed around founding Aporta - a company which itself seems unlikely to meet WP:CORP guidelines, and about which no Wikipedia article currently exists. That just leaves a handful of foreign-language weblinks, to determine whether the individual concerned is notable per WP:BIO — I don't see these as indicative of significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources. └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 22:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as nominator └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 08:11, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment whilst not directly relevant since our policies are not identical, it's worth noting that this article was originally translated from es:Aldo Alvarez – an article on the Spanish Wikipedia which was deleted today with comment Spanish: (Mantenimiento elemental: Artículo sin relevancia enciclopédica. Wikipedia NO ES un CV. Promocional / Conflictos de interés.) └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 22:48, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I've left talk page messages for the two primary contributors User:WaltonFernan and User:Tikalmex inviting them to comment. I've also tagged the image File:Founders AldoAlvarez preview.jpg over on Commons as seemingly a copyright violation. └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 22:55, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
can you read this message? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment UkPaolo what Aldo and the company are doing is very interesting. In fact you can check on the Compays website that they have linked all interviews and media coverage on both Aldo and Aporta https://www.aporta.org.mx/que-es-aporta/videos and https://www.aporta.org.mx/que-es-aporta/aporta-en-las-noticias . The image is part of the Company and its on their media kit for anyone to use https://www.aporta.org.mx/que-es-aporta/media-kit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 23:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Firstly, to be clear this deletion discussion is about the article Aldo Alvarez here on the English language Wikipedia. I apologise for any inadvertent confusion I may have added for commenting on the copyright of the image here. That has been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, and any discussion about it's licensing should take place there. For the record, however, the page you link to states that content is made available under a creative commons BY-NC-ND license which is not acceptable for upload to Commons (or here on Wikipedia, for that matter). Back to the subject in question, I'm not disputing whether what Aldo, or his company, are doing is interesting – what's relevant to this discussion is whether he's notable for inclusion in an encyclopedia, per the guidelines at WP:BIO └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 23:26, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment UkPaolo Hi i just want to initially clarify he is an Mexican-American, lives in NYC and went to college in the USA. The company he founded Aporta, Inc is based out of NY but operates too in Mexico per this link and the own company website https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/aporta-inc#/entity. So basically he is a living person based out of the US so having an profile in english makes sense too. Let me know if you agree with this so we can move fwd with the discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 23:53, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- I think you need to hold in mind that this is an encyclopedia. We're not talking about creating a "profile" for a social media site here. The important thing is whether Aldo Alvarez is sufficiently notable to warrant an encyclopedia article. I would again encourage you to read the guidelines at WP:BIO. I don't think clarification about his nationality are relevant – it is, of course, desirable for us to have English-language Wikipedia articles on sufficiently note-worthy individuals regardless of whether they themselves speak English, or live/work in an English speaking country. The important thing here is firmly meeting notability guidelines – please read them, and if you feel Alvarez meets these criteria update the article so as to fully convey this to the reader. If you don't think he meets them then I'm sorry but there's nothing to discuss – an article would not be appropriate – this isn't LinkedIn. Might I also enquire as to whether you know Alvarez personally, and if so point you additionally at the guidelines at WP:COI. └ UkPaolo/ talk┐ 08:11, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment UkPaolo I think we should have the help of editors to get the issues corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikalmex ( talk • contribs) 23:09, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - I can see no notability here. If an article about his company becomes notable then I guess there might be a reason for an article about him, but even that is not guaranteed. Fails WP:GNG Velella Velella Talk 00:00, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk 19:44, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk 19:44, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 01:12, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 01:12, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. GSS ( talk) 15:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. GSS ( talk) 15:27, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. GSS ( talk) 15:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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