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Some random Japanese model. Does not meet
WP:GNG. Does not have any REAL sources and nothing in English. Makes no sense. Someone probably made this because they are some "Otaku" obsessed with her.
MayVenn (
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02:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Although this user has been opening AfDs for articles by me and (as here) my collaborator on
Pile (voice actress) to make a
point, this is one where they likely are right. There are no independent sources (although this is not obvious!). I doubt she's notable; I don't know Japanese or how to research and assess her notability. The article was created by a newbie whom I'm helping out, who is not familiar with all of our policies (note: I know from off-wiki communications that the article creator will be offline for some time). —
innotata04:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete (probably): The sources don't amount to much, not because they are in Japanese, but because they are blogs, passing mentions, 4th place in some beauty contest sort of thing. Personally I don't see any harm in including obscure personalities (compared with the harm of junk articles like
Korean influence on Japanese culture), but I don't see any real evidence of notability.
Imaginatorium (
talk)
05:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
No need to apologise
H. If we need to have a discussion about this then we should have a discussion about this. I just don't think it should be in this context, as retaliation for something else. Maybe that's policy wonkery, but I don't like giving a harassing and disruptive editor exactly what they want. Take away the soapbox. St★lwart11112:10, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete. I checked the usual places in Japan for independent news on gravure idols--sports papers, entertainment sites, etc.--and could not find much other than a few mentions. Nothing significant. Her Japanese page was made by an SPA, and the English one is just a translation of that. Perhaps her only verifiable claim to fame is multiple appearances on a late-night variety show on a minor network
[1], but unless we can find other RS or she appears on other shows in major roles, she doesn't pass
WP:ENTERTAINER.
Michitaro (
talk)
15:16, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Some random Japanese model. Does not meet
WP:GNG. Does not have any REAL sources and nothing in English. Makes no sense. Someone probably made this because they are some "Otaku" obsessed with her.
MayVenn (
talk)
02:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Although this user has been opening AfDs for articles by me and (as here) my collaborator on
Pile (voice actress) to make a
point, this is one where they likely are right. There are no independent sources (although this is not obvious!). I doubt she's notable; I don't know Japanese or how to research and assess her notability. The article was created by a newbie whom I'm helping out, who is not familiar with all of our policies (note: I know from off-wiki communications that the article creator will be offline for some time). —
innotata04:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete (probably): The sources don't amount to much, not because they are in Japanese, but because they are blogs, passing mentions, 4th place in some beauty contest sort of thing. Personally I don't see any harm in including obscure personalities (compared with the harm of junk articles like
Korean influence on Japanese culture), but I don't see any real evidence of notability.
Imaginatorium (
talk)
05:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
No need to apologise
H. If we need to have a discussion about this then we should have a discussion about this. I just don't think it should be in this context, as retaliation for something else. Maybe that's policy wonkery, but I don't like giving a harassing and disruptive editor exactly what they want. Take away the soapbox. St★lwart11112:10, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete. I checked the usual places in Japan for independent news on gravure idols--sports papers, entertainment sites, etc.--and could not find much other than a few mentions. Nothing significant. Her Japanese page was made by an SPA, and the English one is just a translation of that. Perhaps her only verifiable claim to fame is multiple appearances on a late-night variety show on a minor network
[1], but unless we can find other RS or she appears on other shows in major roles, she doesn't pass
WP:ENTERTAINER.
Michitaro (
talk)
15:16, 5 October 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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