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The result was Draftify. There is consensus that the article is currently unsuitable for mainspace. Vanamonde ( Talk) 16:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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PROD removed with no improvement. WP:BEFORE finds no reliable sources discussing the subject. Members are notable but notability not inherited so fails WP:GNG Slywriter ( talk) 12:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Christianity. Slywriter ( talk) 12:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep -- An organisation to coordinate the work of several notable NGOs, coming from an evangelical viewpoint is likely itself to be notable. The present article is a bad one in that it is highly incomplete, but that is NOT ground for deletion, whether via PROD or AFD. The right course is to tag the article for improvement. I am not in a position to improve it because I am the wrong side of the Atlantic. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:53, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:15, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep or move to Draft, agreed with @ Peterkingiron that this stub article I made is a bad one and highly incomplete, and yet the subject matter is itself notable enough for inclusion. I'll try to improve it when I can, until then move to draft if consensus holds that its not suitable for mainspace.
- Also, I did make several improvements before removing the PROD, including a reference to journal published by this umbrella organization.
Jaredscribe (
talk)
20:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- The group was founded in 197X as AERDO, the "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations", and recently changed its name to ACCORD. Searching for this term WP:BEFORE nominating, may yield a different recommendation from @
Slywriter
Jaredscribe (
talk)
20:43, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- What source was added? An unsourced line of text and a link to a database entry were added, neither of which show any notability. Both of the above !votes show no basis in policy as they make no attempt to show
WP:GNG is met. Also, a
WP:BEFORE was conducted on both names with same result of zilch. Put effort into improving the article if sources exist, instead of trying to handwave away that it does not meet
WP:GNG nor
WP:NORG
Slywriter (
talk)
20:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- You searched for "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations" and "AERDO" and didn't find the many Google books hits?
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7]. Christianity Today reported on its founding
[8] in 1986. Offutt and Reynolds lengthy paper here
[9] is published by ACCORD, but its references could be mined.
Jahaza (
talk)
22:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- All but one of the journals appears to be a passing mention that does not satisfy in-depth coverage. Can't access CT to assess. Ah well, another stub will survive with zero effort put in by the creator to show notability in the article. Slywriter ( talk) 23:13, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- You searched for "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations" and "AERDO" and didn't find the many Google books hits?
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7]. Christianity Today reported on its founding
[8] in 1986. Offutt and Reynolds lengthy paper here
[9] is published by ACCORD, but its references could be mined.
Jahaza (
talk)
22:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- What source was added? An unsourced line of text and a link to a database entry were added, neither of which show any notability. Both of the above !votes show no basis in policy as they make no attempt to show
WP:GNG is met. Also, a
WP:BEFORE was conducted on both names with same result of zilch. Put effort into improving the article if sources exist, instead of trying to handwave away that it does not meet
WP:GNG nor
WP:NORG
Slywriter (
talk)
20:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- The group was founded in 197X as AERDO, the "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations", and recently changed its name to ACCORD. Searching for this term WP:BEFORE nominating, may yield a different recommendation from @
Slywriter
Jaredscribe (
talk)
20:43, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. WP:PAYWALL is never a valid argument for deletion. Christianity Today is WP:RS. XavierItzm ( talk) 23:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify - clearly not ready for article space. No meaningful claim of notability and totally inadequate referencing. Deb ( talk) 06:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify until it has been filled out, currently doesn't appear to meet NORG HighKing ++ 13:03, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify - no meaningful claim of notability. >> Lil-unique1 ( talk) — 23:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Draftify. There is consensus that the article is currently unsuitable for mainspace. Vanamonde ( Talk) 16:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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- Accord Network ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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PROD removed with no improvement. WP:BEFORE finds no reliable sources discussing the subject. Members are notable but notability not inherited so fails WP:GNG Slywriter ( talk) 12:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Christianity. Slywriter ( talk) 12:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep -- An organisation to coordinate the work of several notable NGOs, coming from an evangelical viewpoint is likely itself to be notable. The present article is a bad one in that it is highly incomplete, but that is NOT ground for deletion, whether via PROD or AFD. The right course is to tag the article for improvement. I am not in a position to improve it because I am the wrong side of the Atlantic. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:53, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:15, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep or move to Draft, agreed with @ Peterkingiron that this stub article I made is a bad one and highly incomplete, and yet the subject matter is itself notable enough for inclusion. I'll try to improve it when I can, until then move to draft if consensus holds that its not suitable for mainspace.
- Also, I did make several improvements before removing the PROD, including a reference to journal published by this umbrella organization.
Jaredscribe (
talk)
20:35, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- The group was founded in 197X as AERDO, the "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations", and recently changed its name to ACCORD. Searching for this term WP:BEFORE nominating, may yield a different recommendation from @
Slywriter
Jaredscribe (
talk)
20:43, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- What source was added? An unsourced line of text and a link to a database entry were added, neither of which show any notability. Both of the above !votes show no basis in policy as they make no attempt to show
WP:GNG is met. Also, a
WP:BEFORE was conducted on both names with same result of zilch. Put effort into improving the article if sources exist, instead of trying to handwave away that it does not meet
WP:GNG nor
WP:NORG
Slywriter (
talk)
20:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- You searched for "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations" and "AERDO" and didn't find the many Google books hits?
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7]. Christianity Today reported on its founding
[8] in 1986. Offutt and Reynolds lengthy paper here
[9] is published by ACCORD, but its references could be mined.
Jahaza (
talk)
22:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- All but one of the journals appears to be a passing mention that does not satisfy in-depth coverage. Can't access CT to assess. Ah well, another stub will survive with zero effort put in by the creator to show notability in the article. Slywriter ( talk) 23:13, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- You searched for "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations" and "AERDO" and didn't find the many Google books hits?
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7]. Christianity Today reported on its founding
[8] in 1986. Offutt and Reynolds lengthy paper here
[9] is published by ACCORD, but its references could be mined.
Jahaza (
talk)
22:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- What source was added? An unsourced line of text and a link to a database entry were added, neither of which show any notability. Both of the above !votes show no basis in policy as they make no attempt to show
WP:GNG is met. Also, a
WP:BEFORE was conducted on both names with same result of zilch. Put effort into improving the article if sources exist, instead of trying to handwave away that it does not meet
WP:GNG nor
WP:NORG
Slywriter (
talk)
20:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- The group was founded in 197X as AERDO, the "Association of Evangelical Relief and Development Organizations", and recently changed its name to ACCORD. Searching for this term WP:BEFORE nominating, may yield a different recommendation from @
Slywriter
Jaredscribe (
talk)
20:43, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. WP:PAYWALL is never a valid argument for deletion. Christianity Today is WP:RS. XavierItzm ( talk) 23:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify - clearly not ready for article space. No meaningful claim of notability and totally inadequate referencing. Deb ( talk) 06:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify until it has been filled out, currently doesn't appear to meet NORG HighKing ++ 13:03, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify - no meaningful claim of notability. >> Lil-unique1 ( talk) — 23:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.