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The result was keep. Some kind of merge might be the long term solution, but there is a clear consensus to keep at this time. Mojo Hand ( talk) 14:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Abujh Mon
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Poorly referenced, un-notable WP:NFILM and WP:GNG fail. dibbydib boop or snoop 02:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep - despite the present poor state of the article, even a superficial preliminary google search suggests that this is a notable Bangladeshi film. (There are more hits under the spelling variations Obujh Mon and Abuj Mon). Most results are obvs going to be in Bengali. Time is against me but I'll have a go at adding some refs when I can. Ingratis ( talk) 03:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Before they were globally locked for long term abuse, the creator flooded Wikipedia with articles on topics of dubious notability "on a shocking scale". We at WikiProject Bangladesh are still cleaning up the mess, a time-consuming process because every once in a while something they created is notable. [1] and [2] are other evidence of notability, stating that the film was screened in at least two festivals many years after initial release. And sources often include the name in lists of Razzak's most successful films. There is precious little verifiable information, however, in English or Bengali, with which to write a complete article. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 18:18, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Bangladeshi films of 1972, as an alternative to deletion, and considering WP:WHYN's advice: "If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list." Willing to reconsider if anyone can come up with substantially greater verifiable information than "Obujh Mon is a 1972 Bangladeshi film starring Shabana and Razzak". -- Worldbruce ( talk) 18:33, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment English translation is wrong in the article... it's Stubborn Heart...struggling to find suitable RS....possibly redirect to Chitra Sinha? -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 21:01, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidh e 13:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidh e 13:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, clearly a notable film in its period and easily sourced - some examples "Most commercially successful ones were Abujh Mon (1972) by Kazi Zahir" [1], "... Kazi Zahir's Abujh Mon (The Stubborn Heart) about a golden-hearted Muslim doctor who cannot marry the Hindu girl he loves and later finds her married to his best friend." [2], "Of the post-liberation productions, Abujh Mon directed by Kazi Zahir was decidedly the best. Based on a Muslim boy's love for a Hindu girl, the film showed the ultimate sacrifice the former had to make for the latter. Shabana and Razaak acquitted themselves well in the respective roles." [3] "is among the seven Bangladesh films selected for exhibition under the Bangladesh Film Festival which will tour Bombay, Calcutta, Shillong, Bhubaneswar, Ranchi and other places. The other entries in the festival are Lalon Fakir, Abujh Mon, ..." [4], "Of the other movies of the 1970s, the titles which must be mentioned are Abujh Man (Tender Mind),..." [5] -- Soman ( talk) 11:24, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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- ^ Alamgir Kabir (1979). Film in Bangladesh. Bangla Academy. p. 60.
- ^ National Centre for the Performing Arts (India) (1974). Quarterly Journal. National Centre for the Performing Arts. p. 50.
- ^ Cultural News from India. Indian Council for Cultural Relations. 1974. p. 46.
- ^ Bangladesh News. Press and Information Division, Bangladesh High Commission. 1973. p. 11.
- ^ Rajshahi University. Institute of Bangladesh Studies (2008). The Journal of the Institute of Bangladesh Studies. Institute of Bangladesh Studies, University of Rajshahi. p. 40.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Some kind of merge might be the long term solution, but there is a clear consensus to keep at this time. Mojo Hand ( talk) 14:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Abujh Mon
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Poorly referenced, un-notable WP:NFILM and WP:GNG fail. dibbydib boop or snoop 02:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. dibbydib boop or snoop 02:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. dibbydib boop or snoop 02:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - despite the present poor state of the article, even a superficial preliminary google search suggests that this is a notable Bangladeshi film. (There are more hits under the spelling variations Obujh Mon and Abuj Mon). Most results are obvs going to be in Bengali. Time is against me but I'll have a go at adding some refs when I can. Ingratis ( talk) 03:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Before they were globally locked for long term abuse, the creator flooded Wikipedia with articles on topics of dubious notability "on a shocking scale". We at WikiProject Bangladesh are still cleaning up the mess, a time-consuming process because every once in a while something they created is notable. [1] and [2] are other evidence of notability, stating that the film was screened in at least two festivals many years after initial release. And sources often include the name in lists of Razzak's most successful films. There is precious little verifiable information, however, in English or Bengali, with which to write a complete article. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 18:18, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Bangladeshi films of 1972, as an alternative to deletion, and considering WP:WHYN's advice: "If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list." Willing to reconsider if anyone can come up with substantially greater verifiable information than "Obujh Mon is a 1972 Bangladeshi film starring Shabana and Razzak". -- Worldbruce ( talk) 18:33, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment English translation is wrong in the article... it's Stubborn Heart...struggling to find suitable RS....possibly redirect to Chitra Sinha? -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 21:01, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidh e 13:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidh e 13:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, clearly a notable film in its period and easily sourced - some examples "Most commercially successful ones were Abujh Mon (1972) by Kazi Zahir" [1], "... Kazi Zahir's Abujh Mon (The Stubborn Heart) about a golden-hearted Muslim doctor who cannot marry the Hindu girl he loves and later finds her married to his best friend." [2], "Of the post-liberation productions, Abujh Mon directed by Kazi Zahir was decidedly the best. Based on a Muslim boy's love for a Hindu girl, the film showed the ultimate sacrifice the former had to make for the latter. Shabana and Razaak acquitted themselves well in the respective roles." [3] "is among the seven Bangladesh films selected for exhibition under the Bangladesh Film Festival which will tour Bombay, Calcutta, Shillong, Bhubaneswar, Ranchi and other places. The other entries in the festival are Lalon Fakir, Abujh Mon, ..." [4], "Of the other movies of the 1970s, the titles which must be mentioned are Abujh Man (Tender Mind),..." [5] -- Soman ( talk) 11:24, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- ^ Alamgir Kabir (1979). Film in Bangladesh. Bangla Academy. p. 60.
- ^ National Centre for the Performing Arts (India) (1974). Quarterly Journal. National Centre for the Performing Arts. p. 50.
- ^ Cultural News from India. Indian Council for Cultural Relations. 1974. p. 46.
- ^ Bangladesh News. Press and Information Division, Bangladesh High Commission. 1973. p. 11.
- ^ Rajshahi University. Institute of Bangladesh Studies (2008). The Journal of the Institute of Bangladesh Studies. Institute of Bangladesh Studies, University of Rajshahi. p. 40.