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The result was Procedural withdrawal of AfD nomination. Editor who moved article into main space has moved it back into Draft space. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:24, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Abdul Quadir Amin
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Article existed in draft space, and despite four failed AFC submissions, and numerous attempts on their talk page to guide the article creator Ahanamirza on our notability requirements, Ahanamirza has opted to ignore advice and move the article into live space. I think I'm not the only editor who believes there might be some WP:COI and promotion happening here. Subject fails WP:GNG and there's no indication he meets WP:NACTOR.
Over the last few weeks, anonymous editors (who very well could be Ahanamirza editing while logged out) have inflated the article with garbage references, most of which wouldn't do anything other than proving the mere existence of projects that subject has worked on, projects that are not in dispute. I think they think that if they add a thousand crappy references, that somehow that will convert to subject notability. Some of the poor references being used:
- http://www.emasti.pk - What is it, some random database?
- http://www.famousfix.com/topic/abdul-quadir-amin - Wiki
- https://www.yell.com/biz/london-academy-of-media-film-and-tv-ltd-london-6946432/ - A Yellow Pages listing to prove the existence of a school, not that the subject attended it.
- http://www.indianprimebuzz.com/gold-bollywood-movie-cast/ - Cookie-cutter blog
- http://www.bollywoodtimes.in/btdb/2018/08/15/13728/gold - Cookie-cutter blog. Probably a content scraper. Note the 25+ "stars" of the film as though "star" was interchangeable with "appeared in".
- https://themoviean.com/gold-trailer-akshay-kumar/amp/ - Cookie-cutter blog. Probably a content scraper.
There are plenty of other poor references like these in the article. If we removed the bulk of the problematic sources, we'd probably be left with three Times of India references and one from Moviefone.com. There's also the unsourced WP:CRYSTAL violations related to future films the subject is purported to be in pre-production on. I don't know how anybody could know any of this unless they were directly related to the article subject. Now while we could potentially move back to draft space, I think the fact that the article creator took it upon himself to move a problematic article into live space is suggestive of less-than-good-faith editing, and if they're using Wikipedia to promote a not-yet-notable subject, that's obviously not consistent with our community values. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:18, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment – contributor has moved this article back to Draft:Abdul Quadir Amin — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 21:32, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh ( talk) 00:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh ( talk) 00:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh ( talk) 00:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
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The result was Procedural withdrawal of AfD nomination. Editor who moved article into main space has moved it back into Draft space. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:24, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Abdul Quadir Amin
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Article existed in draft space, and despite four failed AFC submissions, and numerous attempts on their talk page to guide the article creator Ahanamirza on our notability requirements, Ahanamirza has opted to ignore advice and move the article into live space. I think I'm not the only editor who believes there might be some WP:COI and promotion happening here. Subject fails WP:GNG and there's no indication he meets WP:NACTOR.
Over the last few weeks, anonymous editors (who very well could be Ahanamirza editing while logged out) have inflated the article with garbage references, most of which wouldn't do anything other than proving the mere existence of projects that subject has worked on, projects that are not in dispute. I think they think that if they add a thousand crappy references, that somehow that will convert to subject notability. Some of the poor references being used:
- http://www.emasti.pk - What is it, some random database?
- http://www.famousfix.com/topic/abdul-quadir-amin - Wiki
- https://www.yell.com/biz/london-academy-of-media-film-and-tv-ltd-london-6946432/ - A Yellow Pages listing to prove the existence of a school, not that the subject attended it.
- http://www.indianprimebuzz.com/gold-bollywood-movie-cast/ - Cookie-cutter blog
- http://www.bollywoodtimes.in/btdb/2018/08/15/13728/gold - Cookie-cutter blog. Probably a content scraper. Note the 25+ "stars" of the film as though "star" was interchangeable with "appeared in".
- https://themoviean.com/gold-trailer-akshay-kumar/amp/ - Cookie-cutter blog. Probably a content scraper.
There are plenty of other poor references like these in the article. If we removed the bulk of the problematic sources, we'd probably be left with three Times of India references and one from Moviefone.com. There's also the unsourced WP:CRYSTAL violations related to future films the subject is purported to be in pre-production on. I don't know how anybody could know any of this unless they were directly related to the article subject. Now while we could potentially move back to draft space, I think the fact that the article creator took it upon himself to move a problematic article into live space is suggestive of less-than-good-faith editing, and if they're using Wikipedia to promote a not-yet-notable subject, that's obviously not consistent with our community values. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:18, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment – contributor has moved this article back to Draft:Abdul Quadir Amin — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 21:32, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh ( talk) 00:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh ( talk) 00:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh ( talk) 00:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.