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The result was keep. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Abdoulaye Diaby
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Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. I was unable to find any significant sources during a search. Of the sources in the article, [1] is a document from FIFA, [2] [3] are routine transfer stories, [4] is from his team and thus not independent from the subject, and [5] is a database source. Alvaldi ( talk) 21:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep I managed to find two Al-Jazeera articles about him
[6],
[7]. He is also mentioned in several Guardian articles
[8]. — Preceding
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GoldenBootWizard276 (
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14:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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GoldenBootWizard276
[9] is a transcript of a podcast interview with Benjamin Chevallier, the director of a documentary about Diaby, that has some prose from the interviewer.
[10] seems to have been a Youtube embed of the documentary but it is unavailable now. Even so, if we consider the transcript a significant source, we still need more as GNG requires multiple sources and for notability purposes, multiple sources from the same publication counts as one. At a glance, I didn't find any significant sources in the Guardian articles. If you know of any significant sources there, please add them to this discussion.
Alvaldi (
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15:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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Alvaldi: Abdoulaye Diaby is mentioned (albeit briefly) in
The Indian Express:
Also the documentary is on Prime Video [11] and in several other sources, [12] [13] [14]. GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 00:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Adding to coach Des Buckingham’s woes, substitute defender Singh was the culprit in conceding a penalty six minutes before the break after his raised arm blocked a shot from Abdoulaye Diaby, prompting the referee to instantly point to the spot.
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Alvaldi: Abdoulaye Diaby is mentioned (albeit briefly) in
The Indian Express:
- @
GoldenBootWizard276
[9] is a transcript of a podcast interview with Benjamin Chevallier, the director of a documentary about Diaby, that has some prose from the interviewer.
[10] seems to have been a Youtube embed of the documentary but it is unavailable now. Even so, if we consider the transcript a significant source, we still need more as GNG requires multiple sources and for notability purposes, multiple sources from the same publication counts as one. At a glance, I didn't find any significant sources in the Guardian articles. If you know of any significant sources there, please add them to this discussion.
Alvaldi (
talk)
15:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Week Keep Per source above but the first is a primary sources not secondary but it goes a long way partially. Epcc12345 ( talk) 15:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:47, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Some sources not previously mentioned, [15] [16] [17] GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 22:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per above. Besides the sources above, I also found 13 among more sources. Also, he has an ongoing career with one of Hungary's most successful teams Ujpest in the fully pro Hungarian top flight (30+ appearances already), which generates media coverage. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 00:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep. The article subject has appeared in media to a degree sufficient to satisfy WP:SIGCOV guidelines and warrant keeping the article under WP:GNG and WP:NOTABILITY. The case for deletion would be stronger if these conditions weren’t met (i.e. if the subject didn’t satisfy WP:SIGCOV by WP:RS to establish WP:NOTABILITY under WP:GNG and WP:NOTABILITY and WP:GNG). However, the degree to which the subject has appeared in media is sufficient to satisfy the relevant guidelines SIGCOV, RS, GNG, and NOTABILITY, and as such the argument for keeping is stronger on its merits than that for deletion. The sources provided in the table above satisfy SIGCOV requirements necessary to demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG guidelines. On my own review of the subject and sources, I find that notability criteria are met by the amount of demonstrable reliable independent source significant coverage. Additionally, the nature of the coverage indicates WP:IMPACT, which also supports inclusion as a standalone article under inclusion guidelines. The fact that promotional material exists on the subject is not a valid reason to suggest deletion (many subjects covered in Wikipedia articles are heavily promoted outside of Wikipedia, but that doesn’t negate their notability). Furthermore, the subject does indeed pass notability thresholds under the relevant Wikipedia guidelines. Shawn Teller (hy/hym) ( talk) 19:45, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Abdoulaye Diaby
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Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. I was unable to find any significant sources during a search. Of the sources in the article, [1] is a document from FIFA, [2] [3] are routine transfer stories, [4] is from his team and thus not independent from the subject, and [5] is a database source. Alvaldi ( talk) 21:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep I managed to find two Al-Jazeera articles about him
[6],
[7]. He is also mentioned in several Guardian articles
[8]. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
GoldenBootWizard276 (
talk •
contribs)
14:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @
GoldenBootWizard276
[9] is a transcript of a podcast interview with Benjamin Chevallier, the director of a documentary about Diaby, that has some prose from the interviewer.
[10] seems to have been a Youtube embed of the documentary but it is unavailable now. Even so, if we consider the transcript a significant source, we still need more as GNG requires multiple sources and for notability purposes, multiple sources from the same publication counts as one. At a glance, I didn't find any significant sources in the Guardian articles. If you know of any significant sources there, please add them to this discussion.
Alvaldi (
talk)
15:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @
Alvaldi: Abdoulaye Diaby is mentioned (albeit briefly) in
The Indian Express:
Also the documentary is on Prime Video [11] and in several other sources, [12] [13] [14]. GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 00:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Adding to coach Des Buckingham’s woes, substitute defender Singh was the culprit in conceding a penalty six minutes before the break after his raised arm blocked a shot from Abdoulaye Diaby, prompting the referee to instantly point to the spot.
- @
Alvaldi: Abdoulaye Diaby is mentioned (albeit briefly) in
The Indian Express:
- @
GoldenBootWizard276
[9] is a transcript of a podcast interview with Benjamin Chevallier, the director of a documentary about Diaby, that has some prose from the interviewer.
[10] seems to have been a Youtube embed of the documentary but it is unavailable now. Even so, if we consider the transcript a significant source, we still need more as GNG requires multiple sources and for notability purposes, multiple sources from the same publication counts as one. At a glance, I didn't find any significant sources in the Guardian articles. If you know of any significant sources there, please add them to this discussion.
Alvaldi (
talk)
15:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Week Keep Per source above but the first is a primary sources not secondary but it goes a long way partially. Epcc12345 ( talk) 15:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:47, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Some sources not previously mentioned, [15] [16] [17] GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 22:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per above. Besides the sources above, I also found 13 among more sources. Also, he has an ongoing career with one of Hungary's most successful teams Ujpest in the fully pro Hungarian top flight (30+ appearances already), which generates media coverage. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 00:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:38, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. The article subject has appeared in media to a degree sufficient to satisfy WP:SIGCOV guidelines and warrant keeping the article under WP:GNG and WP:NOTABILITY. The case for deletion would be stronger if these conditions weren’t met (i.e. if the subject didn’t satisfy WP:SIGCOV by WP:RS to establish WP:NOTABILITY under WP:GNG and WP:NOTABILITY and WP:GNG). However, the degree to which the subject has appeared in media is sufficient to satisfy the relevant guidelines SIGCOV, RS, GNG, and NOTABILITY, and as such the argument for keeping is stronger on its merits than that for deletion. The sources provided in the table above satisfy SIGCOV requirements necessary to demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG guidelines. On my own review of the subject and sources, I find that notability criteria are met by the amount of demonstrable reliable independent source significant coverage. Additionally, the nature of the coverage indicates WP:IMPACT, which also supports inclusion as a standalone article under inclusion guidelines. The fact that promotional material exists on the subject is not a valid reason to suggest deletion (many subjects covered in Wikipedia articles are heavily promoted outside of Wikipedia, but that doesn’t negate their notability). Furthermore, the subject does indeed pass notability thresholds under the relevant Wikipedia guidelines. Shawn Teller (hy/hym) ( talk) 19:45, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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