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The result was delete. czar 21:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Aaron Dunn
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Did this person even exist? The only listed reference is two blank pages of a book. I can't find any other reference to him either. Even if he did exist, it's unlikely he's notable. Lennart97 ( talk) 13:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete I’ve looked in the single source and searched the text version and can’t find any reference to this person. It may be a hoax but assuming it isn’t, I can’t see any basis at all for thinking this person is notable. Mccapra ( talk) 14:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Not a hoax per the cited reference
Robinson, Doane (1904). History of South Dakota. pp. 986–988 via Google Books. I'm not sure what the issue is with the Internet Archive version. I also find some brief mentions in mining manuals and such. See
Google Books search.
68.189.242.116 (
talk) 17:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's good to know. Any thoughts on notability (keep/delete)? Lennart97 ( talk) 18:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- 68.189.242.116 did you actually find a reference to Dunn in the work by Robinson? I couldn’t find any reference to him in it at all.
Mccapra (
talk) 19:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- The two page entry I linked above (to the Google Books version, which should show the public domain text -- the Internet Archive version appears to be truncated) constitutes significant coverage (
WP:SIGCOV), but is only one
WP:RS source. I'm not finding any other significant coverage in the mining journals and news. I'm still trying to do an obituary search but unless something else turns up, I cannot make a strong case for keeping.
68.189.242.116 (
talk) 19:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure Robinson constitutes a reliable source, as he doesn't cite any references of his own. Rather, this seems like hearsay published nineteen years after Dunn's supposed death. Dunn clearly was a real person who had a reputation as a prominent amalgamator, but there simply isn't enough reliable literature documenting his life or his legacy. I will look for sources from local historians in Sioux Falls; if this turns up nothing, I vote for deletion.
Lord Dweebington1 (
talk) 23:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Re: My outreach to local historians. I actually reached out to the Deadwood City Archivist a few days ago, asking for documentation on Dunn. They haven't gotten back to me, so I'm concluding there is no further research accessible. Lord Dweebington1 ( talk) 04:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure Robinson constitutes a reliable source, as he doesn't cite any references of his own. Rather, this seems like hearsay published nineteen years after Dunn's supposed death. Dunn clearly was a real person who had a reputation as a prominent amalgamator, but there simply isn't enough reliable literature documenting his life or his legacy. I will look for sources from local historians in Sioux Falls; if this turns up nothing, I vote for deletion.
Lord Dweebington1 (
talk) 23:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- The two page entry I linked above (to the Google Books version, which should show the public domain text -- the Internet Archive version appears to be truncated) constitutes significant coverage (
WP:SIGCOV), but is only one
WP:RS source. I'm not finding any other significant coverage in the mining journals and news. I'm still trying to do an obituary search but unless something else turns up, I cannot make a strong case for keeping.
68.189.242.116 (
talk) 19:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:BASIC. —— Serial 12:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete The person is not notable and the article has barely any references at all. LSGH ( talk) ( contributions) 10:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the passing mention in the one source is just not enough to establish notability for encyclopedia purposes. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Possible keep -- If this was about a person who settled to clear and farm land, I would have no doubt that he as NN. However he was a mining prospector and pioneer. It is unfortunate that the mining companies he was associated with are red links, so that I cannot tell how significant they were. Setting up the first stamp mill in the west suggests operation on a substantial scale and thus notability. We should not judge an article solely by its references. The test if verifiability, not being verified or whether it is fully referenced (except BLP cases. Peterkingiron ( talk) 20:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. czar 21:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Aaron Dunn
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Did this person even exist? The only listed reference is two blank pages of a book. I can't find any other reference to him either. Even if he did exist, it's unlikely he's notable. Lennart97 ( talk) 13:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 ( talk) 13:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Dakota-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 ( talk) 13:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I’ve looked in the single source and searched the text version and can’t find any reference to this person. It may be a hoax but assuming it isn’t, I can’t see any basis at all for thinking this person is notable. Mccapra ( talk) 14:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Not a hoax per the cited reference
Robinson, Doane (1904). History of South Dakota. pp. 986–988 via Google Books. I'm not sure what the issue is with the Internet Archive version. I also find some brief mentions in mining manuals and such. See
Google Books search.
68.189.242.116 (
talk) 17:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's good to know. Any thoughts on notability (keep/delete)? Lennart97 ( talk) 18:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- 68.189.242.116 did you actually find a reference to Dunn in the work by Robinson? I couldn’t find any reference to him in it at all.
Mccapra (
talk) 19:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- The two page entry I linked above (to the Google Books version, which should show the public domain text -- the Internet Archive version appears to be truncated) constitutes significant coverage (
WP:SIGCOV), but is only one
WP:RS source. I'm not finding any other significant coverage in the mining journals and news. I'm still trying to do an obituary search but unless something else turns up, I cannot make a strong case for keeping.
68.189.242.116 (
talk) 19:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure Robinson constitutes a reliable source, as he doesn't cite any references of his own. Rather, this seems like hearsay published nineteen years after Dunn's supposed death. Dunn clearly was a real person who had a reputation as a prominent amalgamator, but there simply isn't enough reliable literature documenting his life or his legacy. I will look for sources from local historians in Sioux Falls; if this turns up nothing, I vote for deletion.
Lord Dweebington1 (
talk) 23:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Re: My outreach to local historians. I actually reached out to the Deadwood City Archivist a few days ago, asking for documentation on Dunn. They haven't gotten back to me, so I'm concluding there is no further research accessible. Lord Dweebington1 ( talk) 04:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure Robinson constitutes a reliable source, as he doesn't cite any references of his own. Rather, this seems like hearsay published nineteen years after Dunn's supposed death. Dunn clearly was a real person who had a reputation as a prominent amalgamator, but there simply isn't enough reliable literature documenting his life or his legacy. I will look for sources from local historians in Sioux Falls; if this turns up nothing, I vote for deletion.
Lord Dweebington1 (
talk) 23:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- The two page entry I linked above (to the Google Books version, which should show the public domain text -- the Internet Archive version appears to be truncated) constitutes significant coverage (
WP:SIGCOV), but is only one
WP:RS source. I'm not finding any other significant coverage in the mining journals and news. I'm still trying to do an obituary search but unless something else turns up, I cannot make a strong case for keeping.
68.189.242.116 (
talk) 19:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:BASIC. —— Serial 12:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete The person is not notable and the article has barely any references at all. LSGH ( talk) ( contributions) 10:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the passing mention in the one source is just not enough to establish notability for encyclopedia purposes. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Possible keep -- If this was about a person who settled to clear and farm land, I would have no doubt that he as NN. However he was a mining prospector and pioneer. It is unfortunate that the mining companies he was associated with are red links, so that I cannot tell how significant they were. Setting up the first stamp mill in the west suggests operation on a substantial scale and thus notability. We should not judge an article solely by its references. The test if verifiability, not being verified or whether it is fully referenced (except BLP cases. Peterkingiron ( talk) 20:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.