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The result was keep. -- Scott Burley ( talk) 23:27, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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Group only released one single as seen in Oricon profile and has not been active since. Single did chart at 18 on Oricon Weekly but no activity other than that. No awards, very little press coverage. It would be more appropriate to create an article for their only song, "First Kiss", instead. lullabying ( talk) 16:46, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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Comment. The article seems to indicate they did more than the nominator is claiming, but the history of the group is entirely unreferenced. I don't speak Japanese, so I hesitate to comment on this topic as any source for this group are most likely in that langauge. Anyone know any Japanese speakers that we can ping? 4meter4 ( talk) 19:16, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4: I can read Japanese and I did a run-through of the article. Additional info I can find is that Aa! changed members in 2011 ( seen in the music producer's blog post) and released a non-single song for an album that charted at #37 on Oricon ( seen here). Other than that they do not have group activities together and mostly perform as subgroups in concerts only. lullabying ( talk) 21:59, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
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Lullabying: Are the Japanese language sources good enough to meet the requirements at
WP:SIGCOV? That's really what we need to know.
4meter4 (
talk)
01:43, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4: The ones I have listed are trusted; Oricon is a reliable secondary source. The JP article is mostly unsourced and the only two sources are primary sources. lullabying ( talk) 01:51, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- @
Lullabying: Are the Japanese language sources good enough to meet the requirements at
WP:SIGCOV? That's really what we need to know.
4meter4 (
talk)
01:43, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Keep per Lullabying's input. Meets WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:57, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4: The music producer's blog post is a primary source though, and he's closely affiliated with the group, part of their management, and founded them. Would it still count as WP:SIGCOV? Currently the only "secondary" source that qualifies is Oricon and I'm not sure if their non-album song meets WP:NMUSIC. lullabying ( talk) 22:42, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. The proposal isn't based on any Wikipedia rules or guidelines. A band that charted on Oricon clearly meets WP:NMUSIC. -- Moscow Connection ( talk) 20:51, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 21:25, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 08:03, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. -- Scott Burley ( talk) 23:27, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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Group only released one single as seen in Oricon profile and has not been active since. Single did chart at 18 on Oricon Weekly but no activity other than that. No awards, very little press coverage. It would be more appropriate to create an article for their only song, "First Kiss", instead. lullabying ( talk) 16:46, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2019 September 26. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 17:02, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:29, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:29, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Comment. The article seems to indicate they did more than the nominator is claiming, but the history of the group is entirely unreferenced. I don't speak Japanese, so I hesitate to comment on this topic as any source for this group are most likely in that langauge. Anyone know any Japanese speakers that we can ping? 4meter4 ( talk) 19:16, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4: I can read Japanese and I did a run-through of the article. Additional info I can find is that Aa! changed members in 2011 ( seen in the music producer's blog post) and released a non-single song for an album that charted at #37 on Oricon ( seen here). Other than that they do not have group activities together and mostly perform as subgroups in concerts only. lullabying ( talk) 21:59, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- @
Lullabying: Are the Japanese language sources good enough to meet the requirements at
WP:SIGCOV? That's really what we need to know.
4meter4 (
talk)
01:43, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4: The ones I have listed are trusted; Oricon is a reliable secondary source. The JP article is mostly unsourced and the only two sources are primary sources. lullabying ( talk) 01:51, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- @
Lullabying: Are the Japanese language sources good enough to meet the requirements at
WP:SIGCOV? That's really what we need to know.
4meter4 (
talk)
01:43, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Keep per Lullabying's input. Meets WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. 4meter4 ( talk) 01:57, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4: The music producer's blog post is a primary source though, and he's closely affiliated with the group, part of their management, and founded them. Would it still count as WP:SIGCOV? Currently the only "secondary" source that qualifies is Oricon and I'm not sure if their non-album song meets WP:NMUSIC. lullabying ( talk) 22:42, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. The proposal isn't based on any Wikipedia rules or guidelines. A band that charted on Oricon clearly meets WP:NMUSIC. -- Moscow Connection ( talk) 20:51, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 21:25, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 08:03, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.