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The result was no consensus. I don't think an additional relisting would allow us to come to a firmer consensus. Editors interested in Userfying/Draftifying or Merging can start a discussion on the article Talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 23:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
2024 Allah word socks controversy
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WP:NOTNEWS, WP:10YEARTEST, etc. This is a minor news story that spread because of social media, and will be forgotten about in ten months, never mind ten years. WP:NOTNOTABLE. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - This is a serious matter and this is involving religious issue. Why you wanted to nominate it for deletion. What's your problem is? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
175.141.191.165 (
talk)
15:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Just because religion is involved doesn't dispute anything the nominator said. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 13:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Draft: Almost TOOSOON to establish notability, some press coverage, but it was only 10 days ago. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Oppose: This controversy is an important issue in Malaysia. Somehow, it will be remembered by the majority of Malaysians (notably the Malays). Thegreatrebellion ( talk) 17:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify unless and until it meets WP:NEWSEVENT. LizardJr8 ( talk) 18:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. We don't know whether it fails the Ten Year Test. There might be some things that point in that direction, and some things that do not. Can it not be moved to just "Allah socks"? Geschichte ( talk) 21:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- However, the incident has caused international media reports.
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MikadoYuga (
talk)
00:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Don't forget with this [4], bro @ MikadoYuga, bro @ Fandi89, bro @ DDG9912 and bro @ Pratama26.... 36.78.197.139 ( talk) 23:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- And also this [5] bro @ Pratama26, bro @ Fandi89, bro @ DDG9912 and bro @ MikadoYuga...... 36.78.197.139 ( talk) 23:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Thegreatrebellion ( talk · contribs), recent information on the issue should updated.– Fandi89 ( talk) 03:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Appearing in the news is not sufficient coverage to warrant an article per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:N. Unless this has lasting ramifications and long term retrospective analysis, this is not a notable historic event, just a news story. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 01:15, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – I previously have added a paragraph relating to the Molotov cocktail attacks, since it maybe connected to the socks controversy. DDG 9912 13:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)- Keep - a minor news story does not usually have 22 different articles in the references section. Clearly notable enough. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 02:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly keep - Bro
Pratama26 please support it.
36.78.197.139 (
talk)
21:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't mass-ping users to try and call for support in an AfD discussion (per WP:CAN). AfD discussions don't operate by majority-vote anyways. ArkHyena ( talk) 22:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Userfy per WP:TOOSOON and WP:NOTNEWS. This is still just news - "This case will be investigated..." and charges have just been filed. There is no way, yet to know if this will blow over or not. Bearian ( talk) 14:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 13:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TENYEARTEST ( 3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 00:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Suonii180 ( talk) 16:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: more policy based input needed
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless ( talk) 14:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, plenty of references. Too soon to determine notability, but enough cites to keep in mainspace for now. 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 15:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as it seems to be relatively benign in nature with potential to be developed into a more notable article.
- SW DG 18:52, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - enough sources to keep, especially if there has been international coverage of the topic. [6] [7] However, the extent and notability of its ramifications are too early to tell. ArkHyena ( talk) 22:15, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Selective merge to KK Super Mart.- KH-1 ( talk) 02:01, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, Notable news story that meets WP:GNG. 115.90.199.195 ( talk) 07:51, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now. If it was just a social media event this wouldn't be worth inclusion; however, the fact that this has led to many politicians making statements and Molotov cocktail attacks tells me that this is a fairly significant event in the country. Does need a bit of copyediting and could use a move to a more succinct title. Dan • ✉ 15:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was no consensus. I don't think an additional relisting would allow us to come to a firmer consensus. Editors interested in Userfying/Draftifying or Merging can start a discussion on the article Talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 23:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
2024 Allah word socks controversy
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WP:NOTNEWS, WP:10YEARTEST, etc. This is a minor news story that spread because of social media, and will be forgotten about in ten months, never mind ten years. WP:NOTNOTABLE. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - This is a serious matter and this is involving religious issue. Why you wanted to nominate it for deletion. What's your problem is? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
175.141.191.165 (
talk)
15:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Just because religion is involved doesn't dispute anything the nominator said. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 13:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Draft: Almost TOOSOON to establish notability, some press coverage, but it was only 10 days ago. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Conservatism-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: This controversy is an important issue in Malaysia. Somehow, it will be remembered by the majority of Malaysians (notably the Malays). Thegreatrebellion ( talk) 17:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify unless and until it meets WP:NEWSEVENT. LizardJr8 ( talk) 18:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. We don't know whether it fails the Ten Year Test. There might be some things that point in that direction, and some things that do not. Can it not be moved to just "Allah socks"? Geschichte ( talk) 21:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- However, the incident has caused international media reports.
[1]
[2]
[3]
MikadoYuga (
talk)
00:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Don't forget with this [4], bro @ MikadoYuga, bro @ Fandi89, bro @ DDG9912 and bro @ Pratama26.... 36.78.197.139 ( talk) 23:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- And also this [5] bro @ Pratama26, bro @ Fandi89, bro @ DDG9912 and bro @ MikadoYuga...... 36.78.197.139 ( talk) 23:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Thegreatrebellion ( talk · contribs), recent information on the issue should updated.– Fandi89 ( talk) 03:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Appearing in the news is not sufficient coverage to warrant an article per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:N. Unless this has lasting ramifications and long term retrospective analysis, this is not a notable historic event, just a news story. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 01:15, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – I previously have added a paragraph relating to the Molotov cocktail attacks, since it maybe connected to the socks controversy. DDG 9912 13:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)- Keep - a minor news story does not usually have 22 different articles in the references section. Clearly notable enough. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 02:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly keep - Bro
Pratama26 please support it.
36.78.197.139 (
talk)
21:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't mass-ping users to try and call for support in an AfD discussion (per WP:CAN). AfD discussions don't operate by majority-vote anyways. ArkHyena ( talk) 22:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Userfy per WP:TOOSOON and WP:NOTNEWS. This is still just news - "This case will be investigated..." and charges have just been filed. There is no way, yet to know if this will blow over or not. Bearian ( talk) 14:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Sadustu Tau ( talk) 13:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TENYEARTEST ( 3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 00:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Suonii180 ( talk) 16:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: more policy based input needed
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless ( talk) 14:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, plenty of references. Too soon to determine notability, but enough cites to keep in mainspace for now. 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 15:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as it seems to be relatively benign in nature with potential to be developed into a more notable article.
- SW DG 18:52, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - enough sources to keep, especially if there has been international coverage of the topic. [6] [7] However, the extent and notability of its ramifications are too early to tell. ArkHyena ( talk) 22:15, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Selective merge to KK Super Mart.- KH-1 ( talk) 02:01, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, Notable news story that meets WP:GNG. 115.90.199.195 ( talk) 07:51, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now. If it was just a social media event this wouldn't be worth inclusion; however, the fact that this has led to many politicians making statements and Molotov cocktail attacks tells me that this is a fairly significant event in the country. Does need a bit of copyediting and could use a move to a more succinct title. Dan • ✉ 15:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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