- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. There is clearly no consensus to delete this article, but opinion is evenly divided on whether the topic requires a standalone article. This latter question is better suited to a merge discussion. Vanamonde ( talk) 09:36, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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WP:SYNTHESIS of anecdotal weather reports and occasional temperature records. No strong effects or WP:LASTING significance. Wikipedia is not the Weather Channel. — JFG talk 10:10, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Full AfD list of non-notable cold waves:
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 European cold wave:
Kept -
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 Western United States freeze:
Deleted -
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winter of 2010–11 in Great Britain and Ireland: Kept
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spring 2013 United Kingdom cold spell: Kept
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/November 2014 North American cold wave:
No consensus; overlaps
November 13–21, 2014 North American winter storm and
2014–15 North American winter, potential to merge -
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/February 2015 North American cold wave: Kept
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siberian Express: Kept
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/January 2017 European cold wave (2nd nomination): Kept
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017–18 North American cold wave: No consensus; suggested merge to
2017–18 North American winter
Thanks for participating. — JFG talk 10:20, 9 August 2018 (UTC) — Updated 09:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC).
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CAPTAIN RAJU
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11:38, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose for all – absolutely no reason to even consider this and the others for deletion. This particular event caused one of the coldest starts to January in North America since at least 2014. If you’re so picky about wanting to delete this then I guess Early 2014 North American cold wave should be deleted as well by all chances.. -- MarioProtIV ( talk/ contribs) 11:54, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep or merge - Article is well referenced. If this article cannot be kept, it should be redirected to 2017–18 North American winter, or another suitable target. @ MarioProtIV:, you might want to comment on each individual AFD submission. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 17:18, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete or merge Winter happens every year, sometimes worse than other years, and broken weather records are quite frequent. Sources are contemporaneous weather news that do not provide lasting impacts or notability. Reywas92 Talk 19:00, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Article is well-referenced and had significant impacts across the Eastern US. Multiple records were broken and millions of people were affected by this event; it's definitely notable enough to have an article. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 20:45, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Merge to 2017–18 North American winter, we should be focusing on cold waves that had widespread impacts such as Early 2014 North American cold wave. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 20:50, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed we had an article for each winter season. This looks like a great merge target indeed. I would support merge rather than deletion. — JFG talk 07:12, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As there seems a three-way disagreement as to delete, merge or keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:48, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: As there seems a three-way disagreement as to delete, merge or keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:48, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- Merge as suggested. Bearian ( talk) 16:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies GNG and set many records. James500 ( talk) 17:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge. Multiple records are notable. Yes, records tend to be broken every few years, but such is the fate of records, Olympic records for example, we still write about them when they are broken. -- GRuban ( talk) 18:50, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Merge (to suggested Winter target). I am unclear whether this would satisfy GNG, and in any case, I believe it would be an unwarranted content fork (just because it might be capable of being self-standing, doesn't mean it should). Nosebagbear ( talk) 10:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- CEASE MERGING FOR NOW - as the discussion has been reopened, the in-progress merges should cease for now. Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:00, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. There is clearly no consensus to delete this article, but opinion is evenly divided on whether the topic requires a standalone article. This latter question is better suited to a merge discussion. Vanamonde ( talk) 09:36, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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- 2017–18 North American cold wave ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
WP:SYNTHESIS of anecdotal weather reports and occasional temperature records. No strong effects or WP:LASTING significance. Wikipedia is not the Weather Channel. — JFG talk 10:10, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Full AfD list of non-notable cold waves:
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 European cold wave: Kept
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 Western United States freeze: Deleted
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winter of 2010–11 in Great Britain and Ireland: Kept
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spring 2013 United Kingdom cold spell: Kept
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/November 2014 North American cold wave: No consensus; overlaps
November 13–21, 2014 North American winter storm and
2014–15 North American winter, potential to merge
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/February 2015 North American cold wave: Kept
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siberian Express: Kept
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/January 2017 European cold wave (2nd nomination): Kept
-
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017–18 North American cold wave: No consensus; suggested merge to
2017–18 North American winter
Thanks for participating. — JFG talk 10:20, 9 August 2018 (UTC) — Updated 09:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC).
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:09, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
list of Environment-related deletion discussions.
CAPTAIN RAJU
(T)
11:38, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose for all – absolutely no reason to even consider this and the others for deletion. This particular event caused one of the coldest starts to January in North America since at least 2014. If you’re so picky about wanting to delete this then I guess Early 2014 North American cold wave should be deleted as well by all chances.. -- MarioProtIV ( talk/ contribs) 11:54, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then ( ping me) 14:26, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then ( ping me) 14:26, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep or merge - Article is well referenced. If this article cannot be kept, it should be redirected to 2017–18 North American winter, or another suitable target. @ MarioProtIV:, you might want to comment on each individual AFD submission. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 17:18, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete or merge Winter happens every year, sometimes worse than other years, and broken weather records are quite frequent. Sources are contemporaneous weather news that do not provide lasting impacts or notability. Reywas92 Talk 19:00, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Article is well-referenced and had significant impacts across the Eastern US. Multiple records were broken and millions of people were affected by this event; it's definitely notable enough to have an article. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 20:45, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Merge to 2017–18 North American winter, we should be focusing on cold waves that had widespread impacts such as Early 2014 North American cold wave. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 20:50, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed we had an article for each winter season. This looks like a great merge target indeed. I would support merge rather than deletion. — JFG talk 07:12, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As there seems a three-way disagreement as to delete, merge or keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:48, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: As there seems a three-way disagreement as to delete, merge or keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:48, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- Merge as suggested. Bearian ( talk) 16:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies GNG and set many records. James500 ( talk) 17:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge. Multiple records are notable. Yes, records tend to be broken every few years, but such is the fate of records, Olympic records for example, we still write about them when they are broken. -- GRuban ( talk) 18:50, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Merge (to suggested Winter target). I am unclear whether this would satisfy GNG, and in any case, I believe it would be an unwarranted content fork (just because it might be capable of being self-standing, doesn't mean it should). Nosebagbear ( talk) 10:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- CEASE MERGING FOR NOW - as the discussion has been reopened, the in-progress merges should cease for now. Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:00, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.