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The result was delete. and hoping I'm not treading in any merde with it. Kudpung à¸à¸¸à¸”ผึ้ง ( talk) 12:59, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
2014–15 Big Bang Japan Dome Tour X
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It's a tour and it happened, but the only reliable source saying anything about the tour as a tour is this--and what it verifies is minimal. Certainly it does not provide the kind of in-depth discussion required per GNG. Drmies ( talk) 09:38, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - Obviously there's not going to be much English press about a Korean band's tour in Japan.
Here's an article about adding a second show in Tokyo,
review of the second show in Tokyo,
one here about the last stop and the tour total,
this one talks about how they used the world's largest LED screen, and
this one is about how the concert DVD they filmed is No. 1. I didn't look for Korean news but I assume based on the numbers there is going to be enough press to meet GNG
—Мандичка
YO 😜 10:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, but these are hardly reliable sources. Oricon might count, but that's about the DVD--and it's short, very short.
Drmies (
talk) 07:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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Drmies: I don't understand your claim here. Why would
Sports Nippon, a newspaper that has been around since the 1940s, not be a reliable source? Is it a sports tabloid? Model Press might cover celebrities and pop culture and seem cheesy, but there's no indication it's not a reliable source. They have video interviews with Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, etc - why would their Japanese publicity representative have them sit down for interviews with a non-reliable magazine? And
Excite faded away in English, but Japanese portal is massive
[1]. So please help me understand why these are not reliable sources.
—Мандичка
YO 😜 20:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Alright, perhaps the Sponichi article is acceptable--so we can verify a statement about a screen? We're looking for in-depth discussion of a tour, remember. And Excite--"a collection of web sites" or whatever is just not the same as a decent print magazine. I mean, can we have at least one single impeccable source that actually discusses the tour, not a plethora of websites with advertisements and moving pictures all over the place that mention this aspect or that? Drmies ( talk) 20:51, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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Drmies: I don't understand your claim here. Why would
Sports Nippon, a newspaper that has been around since the 1940s, not be a reliable source? Is it a sports tabloid? Model Press might cover celebrities and pop culture and seem cheesy, but there's no indication it's not a reliable source. They have video interviews with Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, etc - why would their Japanese publicity representative have them sit down for interviews with a non-reliable magazine? And
Excite faded away in English, but Japanese portal is massive
[1]. So please help me understand why these are not reliable sources.
—Мандичка
YO 😜 20:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, but these are hardly reliable sources. Oricon might count, but that's about the DVD--and it's short, very short.
Drmies (
talk) 07:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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- Unsure Not all the sources are good, such as soompi those are garbage. And updates from the groups company site while factual are first source only. However kpopstarz and the koreanherald are reliable third sources and I can see articles from them talking about events that seem like they could provide notability for the tour. Like having the most fans attend their concerts for that year in Japan. But when reading the articles further the article becomes unclear, I would actually prefer to see multiple reports on the claim rather than just the one since it is written strangely. At the very least a cleanup is needed for the page but I ca't say at this time it does or doesn't have notability. Peachywink ( talk) 18:47, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:19, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete: The article seeks to document an event, correct? That event is the 2014-5 tour of Japan by the band "BigBang," correct? Look at the article title. We're fretting over preserving a confused article with very weak verification that is improperly lodged in the first place, so, if it were golden, it would need an immediate set of redirects (multiple) to be useful. This is in addition to the fact that it is attempting to make a case for notability of a single band's single tour of a single country, which is terribly promotional/memorabilia tinged. For the assemblage of these weaknesses and the lack of strengths, delete. Hithladaeus ( talk) 11:44, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- Merde or Week delete. We are talking about the event? Then we have a lot of redundant information. It is a sub-section of another article, or just a set of facts. Shad Innet ( talk) 09:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep:since i am participating for the first time i will keep short There are enough articles to show that big bang has successfully completed its tour i think they have discussed about concert in detail here [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neenamallireddy ( talk • contribs) 19:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing to indicate notability as an independent article. Pincrete ( talk) 20:32, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. and hoping I'm not treading in any merde with it. Kudpung à¸à¸¸à¸”ผึ้ง ( talk) 12:59, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
2014–15 Big Bang Japan Dome Tour X
- 2014–15 Big Bang Japan Dome Tour X (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
It's a tour and it happened, but the only reliable source saying anything about the tour as a tour is this--and what it verifies is minimal. Certainly it does not provide the kind of in-depth discussion required per GNG. Drmies ( talk) 09:38, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - Obviously there's not going to be much English press about a Korean band's tour in Japan.
Here's an article about adding a second show in Tokyo,
review of the second show in Tokyo,
one here about the last stop and the tour total,
this one talks about how they used the world's largest LED screen, and
this one is about how the concert DVD they filmed is No. 1. I didn't look for Korean news but I assume based on the numbers there is going to be enough press to meet GNG
—Мандичка
YO 😜 10:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, but these are hardly reliable sources. Oricon might count, but that's about the DVD--and it's short, very short.
Drmies (
talk) 07:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
-
Drmies: I don't understand your claim here. Why would
Sports Nippon, a newspaper that has been around since the 1940s, not be a reliable source? Is it a sports tabloid? Model Press might cover celebrities and pop culture and seem cheesy, but there's no indication it's not a reliable source. They have video interviews with Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, etc - why would their Japanese publicity representative have them sit down for interviews with a non-reliable magazine? And
Excite faded away in English, but Japanese portal is massive
[1]. So please help me understand why these are not reliable sources.
—Мандичка
YO 😜 20:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Alright, perhaps the Sponichi article is acceptable--so we can verify a statement about a screen? We're looking for in-depth discussion of a tour, remember. And Excite--"a collection of web sites" or whatever is just not the same as a decent print magazine. I mean, can we have at least one single impeccable source that actually discusses the tour, not a plethora of websites with advertisements and moving pictures all over the place that mention this aspect or that? Drmies ( talk) 20:51, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
-
Drmies: I don't understand your claim here. Why would
Sports Nippon, a newspaper that has been around since the 1940s, not be a reliable source? Is it a sports tabloid? Model Press might cover celebrities and pop culture and seem cheesy, but there's no indication it's not a reliable source. They have video interviews with Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, etc - why would their Japanese publicity representative have them sit down for interviews with a non-reliable magazine? And
Excite faded away in English, but Japanese portal is massive
[1]. So please help me understand why these are not reliable sources.
—Мандичка
YO 😜 20:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, but these are hardly reliable sources. Oricon might count, but that's about the DVD--and it's short, very short.
Drmies (
talk) 07:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:34, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:34, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:35, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:35, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Unsure Not all the sources are good, such as soompi those are garbage. And updates from the groups company site while factual are first source only. However kpopstarz and the koreanherald are reliable third sources and I can see articles from them talking about events that seem like they could provide notability for the tour. Like having the most fans attend their concerts for that year in Japan. But when reading the articles further the article becomes unclear, I would actually prefer to see multiple reports on the claim rather than just the one since it is written strangely. At the very least a cleanup is needed for the page but I ca't say at this time it does or doesn't have notability. Peachywink ( talk) 18:47, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:19, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:19, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete: The article seeks to document an event, correct? That event is the 2014-5 tour of Japan by the band "BigBang," correct? Look at the article title. We're fretting over preserving a confused article with very weak verification that is improperly lodged in the first place, so, if it were golden, it would need an immediate set of redirects (multiple) to be useful. This is in addition to the fact that it is attempting to make a case for notability of a single band's single tour of a single country, which is terribly promotional/memorabilia tinged. For the assemblage of these weaknesses and the lack of strengths, delete. Hithladaeus ( talk) 11:44, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- Merde or Week delete. We are talking about the event? Then we have a lot of redundant information. It is a sub-section of another article, or just a set of facts. Shad Innet ( talk) 09:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild ( talk) 16:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild ( talk) 16:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Keep:since i am participating for the first time i will keep short There are enough articles to show that big bang has successfully completed its tour i think they have discussed about concert in detail here [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neenamallireddy ( talk • contribs) 19:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing to indicate notability as an independent article. Pincrete ( talk) 20:32, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
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