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The result was delete. clear consensus DGG ( talk ) 01:17, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
2005 Oklahoma vs. Texas football game
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The significance of this article rides on the fact that the game was the 100th one played in the series between the two teams, which in itself is not enough to warrant its own article. And the game itself was a blowout. Also, it has not received lasting coverage in subsequent years. The article's contents can easily fit onto the respective 2005 team season articles. Lizard ( talk) 02:00, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Jweiss11 ( talk) 04:38, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Wikipedia:Notability (sports) does not seem to cover games, so that takes us to Wikipedia:Notability (events) (I also don't see anything at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes). Now, there is no denying that such games, as trivial as they may seem for most people, do generate a lot of coverage, because sport is a major hobby for the masses. We are therefore faced with an event that does, routinely, generate a lot of coverage - at the same time WP:EVENT states that "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." Whether sport games fall under such routine issue is a BIG topic. This one does have a claim of being notable. Unlike in the other AfD in the series ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Texas vs. Oklahoma football game), I don't see anything here to suggest this game was non-routine, and as such, in lieu of any policy guidelines that would suggest alternative reasons to keep this, I lean towards deletion, seeing this as a non-notable event. -- Hanyangprofessor2 ( talk) 04:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 15:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete (or merge). There is a long-standing practice in the college football and American football projects to (a) include game summaries in articles covering each team's season (see 2005 Texas Longhorns football team#Oklahoma) and (b) limit stand-alone articles about individual games to bowl games, championship games, or, in rare cases, regular season games that have truly historic or enduring importance (e.g., 1869 New Jersey vs. Rutgers football game). In this case, there is nothing truly historic or extraordinary about the game to warrant a departure from the general practice. For me, it's not a question of notability, as most Power Five games get enough significant, non- WP:ROUTINE coverage to pass WP:GNG. Instead, it's an issue of editorial judgment in how we present content about individual college football games, and I think the existing practice of relying on team season articles is sound. For further detail on the established practice, see Dirtlawyer1 and others' discussion of WP:SPORTSEVENT and related policies at the following similar AfDs (all closed as delete): (1) 2005 Texas v. Texas A&M; (2) 1996 UCLA vs. Tennessee; (3) 2011 Michigan vs Notre Dame; (4)-(10) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 Chick-fil-A Kickoff Games; (11)-(14) 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2014 Cowboys Classic; (15) 2008 Oregon vs. Oregon State; (16) 2007 Missouri vs. Kansas; (17) 2001 Tennessee vs. Florida; (18) 2013 Alabama vs. Texas A&M; (19) 1996 Texas Tech vs. Kansas State; (20) 2006 USC vs. UCLA; (21) 2015 Florida State vs. Georgia Tech; (22) 2007 Pitt vs. West Virginia; (23)-(24) 2013 and 2014 AdvoCare Texas Kickoff, and (25) 2006 Texas vs. Ohio State. Cbl62 ( talk) 20:57, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Per well-reasoned nomination. No lasting significance or coverage. AusLondonder ( talk) 13:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. clear consensus DGG ( talk ) 01:17, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
2005 Oklahoma vs. Texas football game
- 2005 Oklahoma vs. Texas football game ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
The significance of this article rides on the fact that the game was the 100th one played in the series between the two teams, which in itself is not enough to warrant its own article. And the game itself was a blowout. Also, it has not received lasting coverage in subsequent years. The article's contents can easily fit onto the respective 2005 team season articles. Lizard ( talk) 02:00, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Jweiss11 ( talk) 04:38, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Wikipedia:Notability (sports) does not seem to cover games, so that takes us to Wikipedia:Notability (events) (I also don't see anything at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes). Now, there is no denying that such games, as trivial as they may seem for most people, do generate a lot of coverage, because sport is a major hobby for the masses. We are therefore faced with an event that does, routinely, generate a lot of coverage - at the same time WP:EVENT states that "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." Whether sport games fall under such routine issue is a BIG topic. This one does have a claim of being notable. Unlike in the other AfD in the series ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Texas vs. Oklahoma football game), I don't see anything here to suggest this game was non-routine, and as such, in lieu of any policy guidelines that would suggest alternative reasons to keep this, I lean towards deletion, seeing this as a non-notable event. -- Hanyangprofessor2 ( talk) 04:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark ( talk) 14:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark ( talk) 14:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark ( talk) 14:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 15:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete (or merge). There is a long-standing practice in the college football and American football projects to (a) include game summaries in articles covering each team's season (see 2005 Texas Longhorns football team#Oklahoma) and (b) limit stand-alone articles about individual games to bowl games, championship games, or, in rare cases, regular season games that have truly historic or enduring importance (e.g., 1869 New Jersey vs. Rutgers football game). In this case, there is nothing truly historic or extraordinary about the game to warrant a departure from the general practice. For me, it's not a question of notability, as most Power Five games get enough significant, non- WP:ROUTINE coverage to pass WP:GNG. Instead, it's an issue of editorial judgment in how we present content about individual college football games, and I think the existing practice of relying on team season articles is sound. For further detail on the established practice, see Dirtlawyer1 and others' discussion of WP:SPORTSEVENT and related policies at the following similar AfDs (all closed as delete): (1) 2005 Texas v. Texas A&M; (2) 1996 UCLA vs. Tennessee; (3) 2011 Michigan vs Notre Dame; (4)-(10) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 Chick-fil-A Kickoff Games; (11)-(14) 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2014 Cowboys Classic; (15) 2008 Oregon vs. Oregon State; (16) 2007 Missouri vs. Kansas; (17) 2001 Tennessee vs. Florida; (18) 2013 Alabama vs. Texas A&M; (19) 1996 Texas Tech vs. Kansas State; (20) 2006 USC vs. UCLA; (21) 2015 Florida State vs. Georgia Tech; (22) 2007 Pitt vs. West Virginia; (23)-(24) 2013 and 2014 AdvoCare Texas Kickoff, and (25) 2006 Texas vs. Ohio State. Cbl62 ( talk) 20:57, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Per well-reasoned nomination. No lasting significance or coverage. AusLondonder ( talk) 13:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:57, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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