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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn with no remaining deletion proposals. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 ( talk) 08:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC) reply

100 Huntley Street

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Deleted via AfD and contested. While I remember it being broadcast as a paid program in Canada in the 80s, I cannot find any independent sources for it. It therefore fails WP:GNG. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 07:37, 27 December 2021 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:24, 27 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:24, 27 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:24, 27 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• Keep. The Globe and Mail, [1] the National Post [2] and The Hamilton Spectator [3] support the claim that it is Canada's longest-running daily talk show. The Toronto Star says it's the longest-running religious daily show, [4] but its obituary of the founder prominently mentions the show in the heading: "David Mainse, founder and host of 100 Huntley Street, dies at 81". There is also a claim that it is the 6th longest-running daily television show in the world by Faith in Canada 150, apparently run by Cardus. [5] I haven't found confirmation of that record yet, but the other record is pretty notable, IMO. Also, Broadview magazine does have an article about the show: "The real story of 100 Huntley Street". Clarityfiend ( talk) 11:06, 27 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• I'm not Canadian, or an expert in the matter, but as someone who successfully WP:PRODded this before it was WP:REFUNDed, I would say we should wait a bit before nominating this for deletion. pburka requested a refund, but has not made edits (and possibly has not had time to make edits) to the article yet. — AFreshStart ( talk) 17:46, 27 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• Keep Per Clarityfiend. Yet another topic where the state of the article is poorer than it should be. I agree WP:BEFORE should especially apply to previously deleted articles, per AFreshStart's commentary. Jclemens ( talk) 18:55, 27 December 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I did do BEFORE and found nothing. Obviously not the news side. With that said, the Globe & Mail, National Post and Toronto Star articles are about David Mainse's death, not the program; it only gets a passing mention in each. The Hamilton Spectator piece is about Crossroads Centre, the broadcast and ministry centre, not the program; again, only passing mention. faithincanada150.ca is a database entry and is immaterial. Only the broadview.org story is about the program. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 09:18, 28 December 2021 (UTC) reply
    • "Only a passing mention"? The Globe and Mail article has at least four paragraphs about the show. The National Post said "The show would span decades and become a fixture on the dial for Canadians, whether they were seeking out the good word or simply flipping channels." All three obituaries feature 100 Huntley Street in their headings, not something you'd do for an obscure show. Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:29, 28 December 2021 (UTC) reply
      • Yes, passing mention. The article is about Mainse, not the program. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 21:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC) reply
        • That's not what "passing mention" means. In fact, WP:SIGCOV even says "it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." pburka ( talk) 22:11, 28 December 2021 (UTC) reply
          • I stand by my claim and my nomination. In short, what details can be gleaned about the program from the passing mentions? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 23:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC) reply
            • Read the Globe and Mail article. There's lots of details there. Clarityfiend's First Rule of Television Show Notability: If it airs nationwide for decades, it's notable. Clarityfiend ( talk) 00:23, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
              • I did read the article. It was a paid program. I stand by GNG not your rule. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 00:32, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
                • What the heck is a "paid program"? Clarityfiend ( talk) 01:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• Comment. A program that aired nationally on major networks for decades would never be an uncontroversial deletion and the page never should have been PRODded. And even if it's determined to be nonnotable on its own there are obvious alternatives to deletion. pburka ( talk) 01:06, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
  • We are not talking about Friends or The Simpsons. This was a paid program. It was not broadcast because stations paid them for the opportunity to air it; Crossroads Communications had to pay to have it aired. Please stop misconstruing the facts. Aside from Mainse's obituary, it is not discussed. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 08:34, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
    • The fact is this proposed deletion is controversial. You shouldn't have used PROD. (And you should withdraw your misleading claim in the nomination that this page was previously deleted via AfD.) pburka ( talk) 13:04, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Long running national program, and per sources brought up by Clarityfiend. Pikavoom ^Talk 10:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
• Keep. With such a long-running show, you should also conduct searches for material that is offline or behind paywalls. In particular, a Proquest search yields numerous hits to articles specifically about this subject. (I cannot access any of the articles, so cannot offer opinions about their coverage.) Some examples:
  • Burlington gears up for arrival of 100 Huntley Street this week. - Hamilton Spectator, 28 April 1992
  • 100 Huntley Street prepares to celebrate 5,000th broadcast - The Record, 10 August 1996
  • 100 Huntley Street appears in Sault Monday - Sault Star, 20 April 2002
  • Gospel TV comes of age Religion: 100 Huntley Street marks 20 years of live daily broadcasting - The Spectator, 21 May 1997
  • Police chorus gives TV viewers a touch of heaven: Niagara Regional Police singers to be featured on 100 Huntley Street show - The Standard, 8 March 1999
  • 100 Huntley Street hits the road - The Globe and Mail, 13 June 1981
  • 100 Huntley Street buys up C-Channel - The Globe and Mail, 29 July 1983
  • USPTO ISSUES TRADEMARK: 100 HUNTLEY STREET US Fed News Service, 16 November 2015
  • Television: Milestone Set on 100 Huntley Street - Kingston Whig, 3 August 1996
  • Huntley St. aims to combine the values of past and present, The Hamilton Spectator, 1 May 1992
  • Dwindling donations force Crossroads to lay off 77 Huntley Street head to make money appeal - The Hamilton Spectator, 25 November 1992
• That's just from the first two pages of results for a search of "100 Huntley Street" at Proquest. Mind matrix 16:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Thanks Mindmatrix. Many of these are about the program and not its creator and host. Nomination withdrawn. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 20:44, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply

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