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MiszaBot missing unsigned comments

Do you have any idea why MiszaBot misses comments with the {{ unsigned}} template? or how to fix it? My talk page is an example. MiszaBot is not archiving the first comment because it is using the {{ unsigned}} template. — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 03:24, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It catches them if SineBot adds them, but not when I do. Or, I guess, anyone else. My workaround is to add a datestamp of my own. Usually {{ dnau}}, backdated to roughly the right period. Come to think of it, it might work to just put in a commented-out datestamp, e.g.,
<!-- 00:00, 5 January 2012 (UTC) --> 
See if MiszaBot will accept that.
—WWoods ( talk) 05:33, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
If it is catching it when SineBot does it maybe it's because SineBot leaves <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->? — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 21:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm testing it on Talk:Positive feedback#In biology. If it gets archived today we found another solution. — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 21:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Maybe you're forgetting "(UTC)"? I've found that this seems to be the way that the Bots recognize a signed post. It isn't clearly stated at WP:UNSIGNED that (UTC) must be added within the "date" parameter. Shearonink ( talk) 19:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: this edit... Was wondering what is going on with the Archiving... I see your deletion of the content, but then again the posts/content do *also* appear within Archive 5... why are they appearing in two places? Sign me "Puzzled", Shearonink ( talk) 18:21, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I noticed in Special:Contributions/MiszaBot I that 4 sections had been saved in Archive 5 but nothing had deleted from the talk page. For some reason. So I did it manually. I guess we'll see if the problem recurs.
—WWoods ( talk) 21:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

MiszaBot is not archiving a File talk page after you added the template

Hello Wwoods. Please see User talk:Misza13#File talk archiving. This is about the bot not running at File talk:Battle of Aleppo map.svg. I started trying to debug this complaint. You added the template to this talk page on 2 January, and there are enough threads and enough time has passed. I don't know why it's not running. As a wild guess, the 'soft redirect' might be confusing the bot. In terms of handling File talk pages, I notice that File talk:H1N1 map.svg is set up for the bot, and it has archives, but the bot is not working. It is one of only four pages in File talk that are currently set up for MiszaBot. The page at File talk:The 2011 Libyan rebellion.png is set up but the archiver is not running there either. So there are no successful examples of MiszaBot working in File talk space. Not sure why you would be the one to fix this, but leaving messages for Misza probably won't get a quick answer :-). EdJohnston ( talk) 05:49, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

ClueBot is archiving the file talk pages, so I've updated the archive templates to use ClueBot. - M0rphzone ( talk) 07:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Conflicts with template style

Wwoods, what is your reasoning for changing the template parameters for talk page banners/headers? There's a reason why I originally updated the archives box to be placed at the side. I'm removing the search and archive from being displayed on the talk header because they cause the template banners to push the comments even further down the page, and increase banner clutter. Because we already have the TOC taking up some space as long as there are 4 comments left on the talk page (I'm setting 4 or 5 as default for MiszaBot's minkeepthreads depending on the talk page it's used on), the archive box can use that space to the right of it, instead of taking up more space under the talkheader and WP banners. I'm also adding the WikiProjectBannerShell to all talk pages with at least 2 WP banners to reduce clutter. Also, what is the point of the {{ Auto archiving notice}}? That notice can already be added as a parameter to the archives box without causing more clutter to the talk headers/banners. All it does is add another line and push comments further down.

You might want to update your code syntax, because the {{ Archive box}} template is a template wrapper for old deprecated archive box templates. The new one is {{ Archives}}. For the auto part, I'll be using short instead of long, because I don't see much need for the long form to be displayed since it causes additional clutter and pushes comments down. I'm not using the |1= for WikiProjectBannerShell, since that's unnecessary and only required for some instances in which a space somehow appears above the first WP banner. (Also you have extra spaces in your default templates).

I'm commenting on this issue because there'll need to be some type of standard to prevent unnecessary and superficial changes to the template fields/code used on talk page headers/banners. - M0rphzone ( talk) 00:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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Eh? Surely that wasn't what you meant to do? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Sticking a datestamp on a random comment? Yeah, that was exactly what I meant to do.
—WWoods ( talk) 16:11, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
My apologies, I misread the diff—it looked like you removed the "GA Review" header. Sorry, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:25, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing the archiving at TALK:nuclear power; and I learned how to handle refs on talk pages to boot! NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 23:00, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the fix

Hi, thanks for the fix here. I think that was my first time trying to set up archiving. I copied-and-pasted from somewhere else but clearly I didn't clean up all the things I needed to. I'll get it right next time! Zad 68 04:16, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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Wolseong Nuclear Power Plant

Hi, Wwoods. I found the Wolseong Nuclear Power Plant and it seems that it needs some work. Could you please take a look? Thank you. Beagel ( talk) 19:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I did something wrong when archiving

Hi, Wwoods. We met more than a year ago. I asked you to add archive bots in a few articles related to Brazilian history. I came here to ask you a favor. I added an archive bot to the talk page of Portuguese language. The talk page probably had one in the past but someone may have erased it for some reason. The problem is that when I added the bot again it archived all discussions on page 1 of the arhives, when it should have done it on page 7. [1] Do you know how to fix it? -- Lecen ( talk) 14:33, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done. I copied the new section, rolled the page back, re-added that section, and fixed the archiving bot: diff.
—WWoods ( talk) 15:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I really appreciate your help. -- Lecen ( talk) 15:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Family tree

Hello. I was trying to make a family tree today and ended up wasting hours without figuring how to do it right. I saw that you have designed Template:House of Eorl and thought I'd ask you if you could help me. If you're interested, take a look at User:Mohamed CJ/Al Khawalid. Mohamed CJ (talk) 15:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. I spent few more hours and got it :P Mohamed CJ (talk) 16:59, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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unexplained archiving of talk page for Rachels tomb

Hi! Can you explain this please - this edit - I can see no need for archiving on this rather short talk page, and i note no discussion, or attempt to form consensus. Cheers! 86.56.63.5 ( talk) 10:26, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't short before archiving ... over a year ago. Using the bot is easier than manual archiving. What's the problem?
—WWoods ( talk) 13:45, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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MiszaBot missing unsigned comments

Do you have any idea why MiszaBot misses comments with the {{ unsigned}} template? or how to fix it? My talk page is an example. MiszaBot is not archiving the first comment because it is using the {{ unsigned}} template. — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 03:24, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It catches them if SineBot adds them, but not when I do. Or, I guess, anyone else. My workaround is to add a datestamp of my own. Usually {{ dnau}}, backdated to roughly the right period. Come to think of it, it might work to just put in a commented-out datestamp, e.g.,
<!-- 00:00, 5 January 2012 (UTC) --> 
See if MiszaBot will accept that.
—WWoods ( talk) 05:33, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
If it is catching it when SineBot does it maybe it's because SineBot leaves <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->? — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 21:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm testing it on Talk:Positive feedback#In biology. If it gets archived today we found another solution. — Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 21:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Maybe you're forgetting "(UTC)"? I've found that this seems to be the way that the Bots recognize a signed post. It isn't clearly stated at WP:UNSIGNED that (UTC) must be added within the "date" parameter. Shearonink ( talk) 19:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: this edit... Was wondering what is going on with the Archiving... I see your deletion of the content, but then again the posts/content do *also* appear within Archive 5... why are they appearing in two places? Sign me "Puzzled", Shearonink ( talk) 18:21, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I noticed in Special:Contributions/MiszaBot I that 4 sections had been saved in Archive 5 but nothing had deleted from the talk page. For some reason. So I did it manually. I guess we'll see if the problem recurs.
—WWoods ( talk) 21:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

MiszaBot is not archiving a File talk page after you added the template

Hello Wwoods. Please see User talk:Misza13#File talk archiving. This is about the bot not running at File talk:Battle of Aleppo map.svg. I started trying to debug this complaint. You added the template to this talk page on 2 January, and there are enough threads and enough time has passed. I don't know why it's not running. As a wild guess, the 'soft redirect' might be confusing the bot. In terms of handling File talk pages, I notice that File talk:H1N1 map.svg is set up for the bot, and it has archives, but the bot is not working. It is one of only four pages in File talk that are currently set up for MiszaBot. The page at File talk:The 2011 Libyan rebellion.png is set up but the archiver is not running there either. So there are no successful examples of MiszaBot working in File talk space. Not sure why you would be the one to fix this, but leaving messages for Misza probably won't get a quick answer :-). EdJohnston ( talk) 05:49, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

ClueBot is archiving the file talk pages, so I've updated the archive templates to use ClueBot. - M0rphzone ( talk) 07:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Conflicts with template style

Wwoods, what is your reasoning for changing the template parameters for talk page banners/headers? There's a reason why I originally updated the archives box to be placed at the side. I'm removing the search and archive from being displayed on the talk header because they cause the template banners to push the comments even further down the page, and increase banner clutter. Because we already have the TOC taking up some space as long as there are 4 comments left on the talk page (I'm setting 4 or 5 as default for MiszaBot's minkeepthreads depending on the talk page it's used on), the archive box can use that space to the right of it, instead of taking up more space under the talkheader and WP banners. I'm also adding the WikiProjectBannerShell to all talk pages with at least 2 WP banners to reduce clutter. Also, what is the point of the {{ Auto archiving notice}}? That notice can already be added as a parameter to the archives box without causing more clutter to the talk headers/banners. All it does is add another line and push comments further down.

You might want to update your code syntax, because the {{ Archive box}} template is a template wrapper for old deprecated archive box templates. The new one is {{ Archives}}. For the auto part, I'll be using short instead of long, because I don't see much need for the long form to be displayed since it causes additional clutter and pushes comments down. I'm not using the |1= for WikiProjectBannerShell, since that's unnecessary and only required for some instances in which a space somehow appears above the first WP banner. (Also you have extra spaces in your default templates).

I'm commenting on this issue because there'll need to be some type of standard to prevent unnecessary and superficial changes to the template fields/code used on talk page headers/banners. - M0rphzone ( talk) 00:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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Eh? Surely that wasn't what you meant to do? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Sticking a datestamp on a random comment? Yeah, that was exactly what I meant to do.
—WWoods ( talk) 16:11, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
My apologies, I misread the diff—it looked like you removed the "GA Review" header. Sorry, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:25, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing the archiving at TALK:nuclear power; and I learned how to handle refs on talk pages to boot! NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 23:00, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Files missing description details

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Thanks for the fix

Hi, thanks for the fix here. I think that was my first time trying to set up archiving. I copied-and-pasted from somewhere else but clearly I didn't clean up all the things I needed to. I'll get it right next time! Zad 68 04:16, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for May 20

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Wolseong Nuclear Power Plant

Hi, Wwoods. I found the Wolseong Nuclear Power Plant and it seems that it needs some work. Could you please take a look? Thank you. Beagel ( talk) 19:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I did something wrong when archiving

Hi, Wwoods. We met more than a year ago. I asked you to add archive bots in a few articles related to Brazilian history. I came here to ask you a favor. I added an archive bot to the talk page of Portuguese language. The talk page probably had one in the past but someone may have erased it for some reason. The problem is that when I added the bot again it archived all discussions on page 1 of the arhives, when it should have done it on page 7. [1] Do you know how to fix it? -- Lecen ( talk) 14:33, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done. I copied the new section, rolled the page back, re-added that section, and fixed the archiving bot: diff.
—WWoods ( talk) 15:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I really appreciate your help. -- Lecen ( talk) 15:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Family tree

Hello. I was trying to make a family tree today and ended up wasting hours without figuring how to do it right. I saw that you have designed Template:House of Eorl and thought I'd ask you if you could help me. If you're interested, take a look at User:Mohamed CJ/Al Khawalid. Mohamed CJ (talk) 15:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. I spent few more hours and got it :P Mohamed CJ (talk) 16:59, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Files missing description details

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unexplained archiving of talk page for Rachels tomb

Hi! Can you explain this please - this edit - I can see no need for archiving on this rather short talk page, and i note no discussion, or attempt to form consensus. Cheers! 86.56.63.5 ( talk) 10:26, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't short before archiving ... over a year ago. Using the bot is easier than manual archiving. What's the problem?
—WWoods ( talk) 13:45, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Robert Uhlmann requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either

  • disambiguates two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
  • disambiguates no (zero) extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Laun chba ller 20:18, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


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