Hello Wikidas. Thank you for the note. I have added a quote on the Krishna talk page concerning your queston on Vasudeva's role in Vaishnavism. Gavin Flood is a Hindu Studies scholar and is respected in Academia. Personally, I do not feel that any single reading, tradition, or story concerning the origins of Vaishnavism is correct by itself alone. At the least I beleive that the Gavin Flood quote shows that the question you raised is a legitimate one. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 21:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, thank you for adding the dissertation/publication reference for the Radhika Ramana Dasa article. I was not aware of that source. Thank you. Also, you might want to review three new articles that I created; Hanumatpreshaka Swami, Smita Krishna Swami and Kadamba Kanana Swami. Any edits or comments you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for your contributions. Ism schism ( talk) 15:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I would sincerely advice you to get a wikipedia mentor, because currently your replies to well meant advice/admonishments by experienced editor, indicates that you really don't understand why some of your edits and references are unacceptable. Repeating the errors or your arguments in article space will soon exhaust the community patience and lead to editing sanctions, but with a mentor you can discuss the issues in semi-privacy, without disrupting articles/other editors. I expect that you will soon delete this suggestion from your talk page, but I do hope you'll consider it for your own benefit. Abecedare ( talk) 16:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC) I only delete notes that are not in an appropriate mood of WP:COOL. I think this is a nice suggestion, I will think about it. I appears that there is a contention on part of some editors and others are just fine. I like some of your suggestions, and some are not so well put, it you discuss in a polite tone, it will have a better chance of getting across. Some of my edits are not acceptable, just as some of yours. You have a better experience and thanks to that Im learning. If you look at your edits 5 years back you will see bigger proportion of edits that you would better today. And that is good. So without wasting more time, I would ask you to stop telling others what to do, just for a while, and do yourself what you ask from others. Wikidās ॐ 16:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, thank you for all of your hard work on the Shrinathji article. Your edits have been very constructive. Thanks again. I admire your work ethic. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 23:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I have replied on my talk page to keep the conversation in one place. Cheers. Abecedare ( talk) 00:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC) Thanks. You mean keep it at Talk:Krishna page. Wikidās ॐ 09:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Namaskar. I suggest that you talk to the editor informing him that the Sri Sampraday is only a part of hinduism. Diplomacy is normally the best way out. In case that fails the only option left would be to contact administrators. There is no point me putting in POV as there is no place for POV on wiki and it will be removed sooner or later. As a matter of fact I always try to ensure that my edits are NPOV. Im afraid I wont be able to do much imd. as Im a bit preoccupied with a conflict on the Bhagwan Swaminarayan page apart from other stuff. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 16:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, now I get u. Ill surely do tht in the near future. Thanks, Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 12:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Namaste and Namaskar. I am willing to help take out POV. I will try my best to do so. I suggest getting an admin to warn him a few times about getting banned. Just tell me what to do (give me a list) and I should be able to do most of it. Thank You Juthani1 20:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC) I have an idea. Source everything (find websites with reliable info) so you have proof that he is vandalizing. Then contact an admin and he or she will warn this editor and stop him or her from editing that page. but make sure the sources are reliable!!!! Juthani1 21:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC) You can also tag the article as undercontruction. I would give you a link but can't find it. Remove all of the other boxes and get experts involved with the article. If you really want to stop him. I saw that he was discussing things on other user talk pages f other users. I can help, but I am a little confused on what this article is about. I know the main points but I need a better understanding. Could you give me one on my talk page? Juthani1 21:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm relatively new to wikipedia. Won't do that again.
I edited this article from the beginning to the beginning part of the Comparisons of views section.
After that, due to the grammar I am having a difficult time understanding what the author(s) are trying to say. So I'm hesitating to re-word.
Also, from the point where I stopped editing to the end of the article, there seems to be a good amount of repetition.
And poor grammar is present everywhere unforunately —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.99.134 ( talk) 12:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your contributions to the Bhagwan Swaminarayan and other Swaminarayan Articles. I saw your recent edits to the Bhagwan Swaminarayan page and was shocked by how much you improved it and the introduction. You improved it so much that now there is no POV in that section. Thank You so much Juthani1 18:37, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I second Juthani1 - Thanks. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 19:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I added more to the Nilkanth Varni portion. Check it out and take out the POV. You are really good at taking out POV on the Bhagwan SWaminarayan article. You can find it under the background section. I rote it and its not really well written. Juthani1 22:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Wikidas. There is a proposal for a Swaminarayan workgroup. If you are interested in being an editor on this project, or helping in any way, it is still in the proposal process. Any thoughts, comments and/or participation would be appreciated. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 20:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, do you have any thoughts on the above? The individual is an editor of Back to Godhead and has other notable attributes. Any thoughts you have would be appreciated. FYI - you can always find these Hindu related Afds at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Hinduism. I have put two articles up as well. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 23:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi - Just came around to say tht Iv added a line on Bhagwan Swaminarayan along with a reference on the Svayam Bhagavan page. BTW ur doin a gr8 job on the Swaminarayan Bhagwan page .. keep it up! Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 00:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Just started the article, pl. help expand if u no bout the topic n hv the time. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 11:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 16:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Namaskar, Just had a thought bout it - wont it be too similar to the Vaishnavism project? Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 19:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I like the idea of that workgroup. Will be the first to join. I am also a Radha Krishna worshipper. Juthani1 t c s 19:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
No, I will just add stuff to the list. We don't need the box. Juthani1 t c s 20:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC) What does MoS mean? Juthani1 t c s 20:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
You need to sign the wikiproject project thing as well. Move it to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals from the page its on right now. The invitation template is great. Do you want me to make a prooposed UBX. Juthani1 t c s 21:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Great, What should the name of the UBX be? Template:....
Wikidas, I dont know if you are well versed with the matter. The situation is thus. Bhagwan Swaminarayan made the Swaminarayan Sampraday and established a line of acharyas as successors via the Desh Vibhag Lekh. He also indicated this in other places, such as the Shikshapatri. When he left for Aksharham, he left the reins of the sampraday with the Acharyas and put Gopalanand Swami in charge of the Sampraday. Now, many years after this a sadhu of the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Vadtal, Yagnapurushji (later refered to as Shastriji Maharaj) and formed a sect of his own, BAPS. He was later excommunicated. His contention was that Bhagwan Swaminarayans spiritual successor was Gunatitanand Swami and not the Acharyas. The paradox is that Gunatitanand Swami had also left for Akshardham by then. Infact even Gunatitanand Swami, one of the main sadhus of Bhagwan Swaminarayan states “He who insults the temples, Acharyas, sadhus and satsangies will find his roots being destroyed and will inevitably fall from the satsang.” (Swami ni Vato Prakran 5, Vat 104). Now, I agree that since BAPS claims succession and is quite a large group, they need to be mentioned, but that sould not undermine the fact that the Acharyas were appointed by Bhagwan Swaminarayan himself and that BAPS and other groups only claim succession. I hope you get my point. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 23:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Wheredevelsdare and I figured out the NPOV for the succession thing. I misinterpreted it and changed it up a little. Are ther any others? Juthani1 t c s 13:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
The Acharyas came after Shajanand Swami's Death. He selected one for each of the gadis (so 2 together). after that there has been a successor. BAPS split since they believe that Gunatitanand Swami was the rightful heir and everyone after him is the rightful successor. The Swaminarayan Gadi thinks that Gopalanand Swami is the rightful heir. Tell me exactly what you want to change. You are on the right track. Do still need help with that one article you asked for my help on (when we first met)? Juthani1 t c s 16:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Iv answered ur 120 years question on Juthani1's talk pg, I hope ur now clear with the status of the Acharyas as the bonafide successors to Sahajanand Swami and the Desh Vibhag Lekh being his last will and testament. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 20:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
This is a page Iv been working on for some time. Id like your opinion on its present form. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Well there are more than hundreds of Swaminarayan Sampraday Mandirs world over (I dont know how many, but the list is HUGE) so adding all will prob take really long.
BAPS mandirs are not known as Shri Swaminarayan Mandir but BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir (Note the diff)'. Anyways, the BAPS temples are listed on the BAPS article itself. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 22:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed the It is believed because it is a proven fact in a court of law. The citation needed tag was removed because ref 4 covers that. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 22:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Don't move it to Swaminarayan. I've already redirected it there but it is best if labeled disambig. Thanks Juthani1 t c s 19:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I must comlement ur work on the Svayam Bhagavan page. I was just browsing around and I must say that the page is brilliant, and with a little more work, I should think it will be on its way to the Wikipedia Main Page - as featured article. All the best! - Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 00:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, what are your thoughts concerning the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Krishnaism. Do you know the purpose of this page, aside from allowing editors to state their purpose of supporting the project? Again, please let me know how I might be of assitance. Thank you for all of your hard work. Ism schism ( talk) 03:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The original Faiths worshipping RadhaKrishna sounds good. I would hv thgt it comes under the Hinduism/Vaishnava projects and not a seperate one. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I dont no how to use diacritics, is it fine if I put the Radhaashtak in normal words? Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I will change it to normal language. On a seperate note, you can listen to the Radhashtak on [2] (ull need to download it) and read it on [3]. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I use vista too - I can read it on the link. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Im working on it - in my Sandbox. should be ready by the end of the day. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 11:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Im not too much of an avid reader of scriptures and religious books - but Ill try and find a published source. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 12:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Since u mentioned Gaulok in the RadhaKrishna article, I tht Id tell u tht there are murtis of Gaulokvihari Maharaj in some mandirs such as the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Mumbai. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 18:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure of this -
One of the self manifested Deities established by Gopala Bhatta Goswami is called Radharamana, it is not surprising that Radharamana is seen as not only Krishna but also as Radha-Krishna.
I am asking u as in Swaminarayan Mandirs too u hv murtis of Radharaman Dev, such as in Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Junagadh. This temple was made in Vikram Samvat 1884, and the Vikram Samvat (Indian Calendar) is 56 years ahead of the Gregorian (Roman Calendar). How could Radharamana hv been established by him when it already existed! AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 15:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry! my mistake. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Now ur confusing me - month of vaishaka 1542 - so tht must be Vikram Samvat calendar - right? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Out of curosity - Iv known u for some time now- but dont no ur beliefs - which sampraday/sect of hinduism do u belong to? Which part of the world are your from? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Now Im a little more confused -
1. Is the Gaudiya calendar same as Vikram Samvat or different 2. Did u state the month in VS and year in the Normal calendar
AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I dint know of a Gaudiya calendar - thanks for telling me. The Vikram Samvat is actually the most widely used Indian Calendar. Now I think I hv an ans. to one of my questions above - ur a Gaudiya Vaishnava. Where are you from? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
There is a problem on the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Bhuj page. The whole history section is being removed as flatterity. Iv tried to remove all the POV, but the guy keeps removing the section. Please help. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 18:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Since I messaged u the same editor has gone about clipping articles on different Mandirs, Acharyas etc. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 19:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree wth the Shri, MoS part and do not dispute that - but that does not mean one removes large parts of articles. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 19:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, I was working on it just today. See all the Mandir articles' history. This is before Cunando came into the picture. Im trying my best to remove POV - but just removing all information does not help. Ill try and rephrase everything - but I still dont know if tht will be enough. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 20:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
On a different note, we also worship other forms such as MadanMohan Dev and Gopinathji Maharaj. Do u too? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 20:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
By POV i meant Shri, Lord etc. the Swaminarayan Sampraday site, swaminarayan.info has info on all these temples, could tht be used as YES:POV? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 20:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Good job catching the link spam by Ambi saba ( talk · contribs)! -- Kralizec! ( talk) 01:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I read on the Ahmedabad temple page that you wrote that Swaminarayan founded the Swaminarayan Faith. The statement is false, as he founded the Swaminarayan Sampraday and other groups claiming successorship were formed only a minimum 77 years after his death. i.e. He died in 1830 and the first group to claim succession was formed in 1907 (BAPS). Other groups were formed much later, eg. Swaminarayan Gadi was formed in the 1940's. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 15:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at Talk: Tejendraprasad Pande, leave your thoughts if you wish. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 21:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Namaskar,
Dont u think it wld b better to hv focus on the deities and hv a para on the temple, with a seperate article for the temple. Radha Ramana are worshipped in other temples too .. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 15:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I dint c ur ans here. Wht I meant was it would be better to hv a sep article for the deity and temple. Other temples incl. Swaminarayan Temples too hv RadhaRaman Dev murtis - it mite not b worthwhile putting info of these temples on the RadhaRaman Dev page, but having info on one temple on the page might indicate to readers tht the deity is only worshpped in tht temple - something like wht it was when the Laxminarayan page had an article on the Birla temple in delhi (now moved to Laxminarayan Temple). Thanks for the MadanMohan Dev and Gopinathji Maharaj info - do Gaudiya Vaishnavas worship these forms? ATG Contact 20:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Then it may be better to mention tht tht is the reason why tht temple is mentioned on the article, although the deity is worshipped in many other temples too. ATG Contact 21:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, since I have been away I have seen that you have created many relevant articles for the Krishnaism project. Also, I want to thank you for creating the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Krishnaism/Bibilography, as this page will be very useful for building futher articles, and edifying others. Thank you for being such an important leader on this project. Please let me know how I can help in the future. I will be out of town every now and then, but would like to help with this project, so please do let me know how I might be of assistance. Thanks again for your hard work and leadership. Ism schism ( talk) 00:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, what do you think about duplicating sections of the Radha Krishna page for the Krishnaism page, such as the various religious traditions etc. I think that would help contextualize it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 15:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
-- BorgQueen ( talk) 21:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! the first Krishnaism DYK! ATG Contact 16:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! (I apologize for the late reply - I've been busy with school.) I'd love to help as much as possible, so let me know if there is anything I can do. One thing, we probably need a box similar to {{ Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Vaishnavism articles by quality statistics}} for the project. -- Shruti14 t c s 22:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I think all Krishna related articles (RadhaKrishna, Laxminarayan, Narnarayan etc) shld b top priority. I further propose to tag all Swaminarayan articles with this project. ATG Contact 16:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just thinking about it - if your going to limit the scope to RadhaKrishna, then it might not be right to inlcude all the articles I mentioned. Ill explain, I just made an article on the Karachi temple and put tagged it with Krishnaism. However, the images in tht temple are of Narnarayan dev and Lord Swaminarayan - not RadhaKrishna dev like some other temples. When I saw RadhaKrishna on the talk page, I felt it wrong to tag it tht way as there are no images of RadhaKrishna in tht particlular temple. I had earlier tht it comes under Krishnaism as NarNarayan Dev is Nar, Arjun and Narayan, Krishna. ATG Contact 19:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, the first things I think are required for this to fly, and I've been involved in one recently, so I speak from some experience, is that you should move the "discussion" section to a "Statement by Wikidas" section. For it to proceed, it will need to have at least two editors indicate that they have directly stated that they find the editor's behavior questionable, prefereably included in the "Evidence of trying to resolve the dispute" section, to meet the required two-person threshold. Can you provide me with speciric links to all the relevant pages/discussions. At least the first of the links you provided, 3 in particular, aren't evidence of disruptive behavior, although 6 clearly violates NPA, 7 is probably acceptable, as it is just trying to limit content, 8 is less an insult, although it does seem to be close to threatening legal action. The last three all date from April, and at least #8 is later. At this point, I think a Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts might be the better way to go than a full RfC, both because it is an earlier step in dispute resolution, which probably should be taken first, and because it is, in a sense, less directly confrontational. But remember that you are, in effect, making a legal case yourself here. If you've seen the show, try to write it in your best Perry Mason style, presenting the evidence in chronological order for greatest ease of understanding. John Carter ( talk) 16:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
As u no v hv been having a lot of problems with POV on Swaminarayan pages. In this regard, Iv made a new pg on the Mandir in Karachi ( Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Karachi) - cld u pl go thru it & temme if there is any POV. Iv tried to make it as NPOV as poss with max. references. ATG Contact 21:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, will try and incorporate more info. ATG Contact 21:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It's nice - I like it. Thanks for making it. -- Shruti14 t c s 22:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Yup its gr8 .. only thing Id like to know is tht RadhaKrishna wld b non existent w/o Krishna - so shldnt tht b mentioned first .. ATG Contact 19:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Template:VaishnavaSampradayasrs for deletion as suggested. Please comment and support/oppose the nomination there. Also, since you use it one your userpage, you may want to {{subst: it using VaishnavaSampradayasrs}} before it is deleted, if it is deleted and you still want the content in the template on you user page. Thanks. -- Shruti14 t c s 01:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
No, I don't think we should do that since they aren't centered around Radha Krishna. I don't think it should be done since they are already in the Vaishnav Progect anyway. If you really want to, I won't stop you from doing so. Juthani1 t c s 20:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Got Juthani1s approval. My contention to him was that Swaminarayan Bhagwan considers Krishna his isht Dev, so on tht count it comes under the Krishna project and he agreed. ATG Contact 20:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Re: [4] - Thanks for your message, and calling me India's most well known Wikipedian :) However, I may not be be the best one! Anyway, your request is engaging my active attention, and I shall come back soon. I could not attend to one of your earlier message in this regard as I could not pay deep attention to the issue. Regards. -- Bhadani ( talk) 15:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Iv nt gone thru the article in detail really to vote. The Bala Krishna one luks gud - Im surprised an aricle on Krishna as a balak dint exist till now. Well I made a pg on the Swaminarayan Mandir in Weehawken, NJ (u can get to it via Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, New Jersey) today, you can hv a luk and help with tht if u like. BTW hv u seen the infobox on the Swaminarayan page? Thanks, ATG Contact 23:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi,
I nominated Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Karachi for a DYK and the message put there is Date and length OK. Can not find hook in sourced material, lack of inline source makes this difficult. What does this mean and wht should be done to resolve this. ATG Contact 20:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I thgt of that too but its clearly mentioned in the ref. - According to Mahant Swami, the idols of Lord Swaminarayan were brought to India during Partition. “At present, one idol is at Khan village in Rajasthan,” he says. - this is a cut and pste from a Times of India article.
ATG
Contact 20:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Thats not the DYK - thts the ref. - the DYK is ... that the original images of Lord Swaminarayan at the Shri Swaminarayan Temple, Karachi in Pakistan were removed and taken to India during the turbulent times of the Partition of India?. ATG Contact 20:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Yup, I hv given the ref there now - the artcle has been wikilinked in bold. ATG Contact 21:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Solved - the ref. has been accepted. Around The Globe Contact 21:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, you have a big hand in it too - so congratulations to you too! Your help with Swaminarayan articles is much appreciated. Around The Globe Contact 17:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks and congrats. Im not aware of any Swaminarayan temple having a Balak roop Krishna murti (thts wht I understood frm the article). Though v do hv palnas with miniature murtis in them during janam. These normally hv 2 swinging peacocks on the 2 ends.(hv u herd of the dhun .. 'Lala ne palne sona na mor ..)Just to add - I had nominated Weehawken a couple of days bak along with Karachi. Now, Karachi having made it I dont know what wld b the status of the other one (they mite not want 2 Swaminarayan Temple articles within a span of a couple of days on) - though it might make it too .. Around The Globe Contact 21:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The Swaminarayan temples page is currently not rated - could you pl. rate it? Around The Globe Contact 21:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Can we use Bhagwan Swaminarayan rather than Bhagvan because it is used more oftenly. There are many times were words are mispelled but are stll the most common way people use them such as in this example. So can you support Bhagwan Swaminarayan Juthani1 t c s 22:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Congrats, it's on the mainpage right now Juthani1 t c s 23:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations - yet another Wikidas initiated article makes it to the main page .. Around The Globe Contact 23:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-- Victuallers ( talk) 23:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Wikidas. When you have time, please review my assessments of various Krishnaism articles. I have tried to follow the standards which were outlined. I would appreciate any corrections or comments you have. Thanks again for your hard work and leadership. Ism schism ( talk) 05:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I created Shri Radhika Krishnashtaka today. Pl. hv a look at wht Iv done as well as help with expansion. Around The Globe Contact 15:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, as for notabality there are 2 different reference sources tht I hv put. I cant find anything against this in NOT. I think if v expand the introduction it should be OK. Wht r ur thgts? Around The Globe Contact 16:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
NP. Juthani1 has been working on the templates - v hv been in touch on how it shld b. Im having a problem with the sourcing of the Radhashtak info - zero hits in Google books! and few in the web as well .. Im trying to source stuff frm other places now. Id appreciate if u cld rate the Swaminarayan temples articles when ur a bit free .. Around The Globe Contact 01:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Wikidas. Thanks for taking the time to review the article. I replied to your suggestion about changes to the lead, and inserted a few sentences to add coverage about the different views (and how they've changed). I was wondering if I could get your feedback about that. Regards, ITAQALLAH 14:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
17:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
This article needs major help- Rama Navami Can you help? Juthani1 t c s 18:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I dint c tht Ism schism has gone bout rating them. The ratings r fine - just wanted them rated. Juz one thing - he has rated the Swaminarayan Temples as start class - i think it might b a tier higher to tht - can u review tht. Around The Globe Contact 21:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for passing the article. Few things to remember when you pass an article:
-- Redtigerxyz ( talk) 04:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
My belief is the exact same, but I thought that God was the Christian form. Sorry about any trouble. thanks for the explanation. Juthani1 t c s 16:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Wikidas. Thank you for the note. I have added a quote on the Krishna talk page concerning your queston on Vasudeva's role in Vaishnavism. Gavin Flood is a Hindu Studies scholar and is respected in Academia. Personally, I do not feel that any single reading, tradition, or story concerning the origins of Vaishnavism is correct by itself alone. At the least I beleive that the Gavin Flood quote shows that the question you raised is a legitimate one. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 21:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, thank you for adding the dissertation/publication reference for the Radhika Ramana Dasa article. I was not aware of that source. Thank you. Also, you might want to review three new articles that I created; Hanumatpreshaka Swami, Smita Krishna Swami and Kadamba Kanana Swami. Any edits or comments you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for your contributions. Ism schism ( talk) 15:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I would sincerely advice you to get a wikipedia mentor, because currently your replies to well meant advice/admonishments by experienced editor, indicates that you really don't understand why some of your edits and references are unacceptable. Repeating the errors or your arguments in article space will soon exhaust the community patience and lead to editing sanctions, but with a mentor you can discuss the issues in semi-privacy, without disrupting articles/other editors. I expect that you will soon delete this suggestion from your talk page, but I do hope you'll consider it for your own benefit. Abecedare ( talk) 16:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC) I only delete notes that are not in an appropriate mood of WP:COOL. I think this is a nice suggestion, I will think about it. I appears that there is a contention on part of some editors and others are just fine. I like some of your suggestions, and some are not so well put, it you discuss in a polite tone, it will have a better chance of getting across. Some of my edits are not acceptable, just as some of yours. You have a better experience and thanks to that Im learning. If you look at your edits 5 years back you will see bigger proportion of edits that you would better today. And that is good. So without wasting more time, I would ask you to stop telling others what to do, just for a while, and do yourself what you ask from others. Wikidās ॐ 16:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, thank you for all of your hard work on the Shrinathji article. Your edits have been very constructive. Thanks again. I admire your work ethic. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 23:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I have replied on my talk page to keep the conversation in one place. Cheers. Abecedare ( talk) 00:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC) Thanks. You mean keep it at Talk:Krishna page. Wikidās ॐ 09:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Namaskar. I suggest that you talk to the editor informing him that the Sri Sampraday is only a part of hinduism. Diplomacy is normally the best way out. In case that fails the only option left would be to contact administrators. There is no point me putting in POV as there is no place for POV on wiki and it will be removed sooner or later. As a matter of fact I always try to ensure that my edits are NPOV. Im afraid I wont be able to do much imd. as Im a bit preoccupied with a conflict on the Bhagwan Swaminarayan page apart from other stuff. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 16:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, now I get u. Ill surely do tht in the near future. Thanks, Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 12:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Namaste and Namaskar. I am willing to help take out POV. I will try my best to do so. I suggest getting an admin to warn him a few times about getting banned. Just tell me what to do (give me a list) and I should be able to do most of it. Thank You Juthani1 20:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC) I have an idea. Source everything (find websites with reliable info) so you have proof that he is vandalizing. Then contact an admin and he or she will warn this editor and stop him or her from editing that page. but make sure the sources are reliable!!!! Juthani1 21:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC) You can also tag the article as undercontruction. I would give you a link but can't find it. Remove all of the other boxes and get experts involved with the article. If you really want to stop him. I saw that he was discussing things on other user talk pages f other users. I can help, but I am a little confused on what this article is about. I know the main points but I need a better understanding. Could you give me one on my talk page? Juthani1 21:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm relatively new to wikipedia. Won't do that again.
I edited this article from the beginning to the beginning part of the Comparisons of views section.
After that, due to the grammar I am having a difficult time understanding what the author(s) are trying to say. So I'm hesitating to re-word.
Also, from the point where I stopped editing to the end of the article, there seems to be a good amount of repetition.
And poor grammar is present everywhere unforunately —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.99.134 ( talk) 12:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your contributions to the Bhagwan Swaminarayan and other Swaminarayan Articles. I saw your recent edits to the Bhagwan Swaminarayan page and was shocked by how much you improved it and the introduction. You improved it so much that now there is no POV in that section. Thank You so much Juthani1 18:37, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I second Juthani1 - Thanks. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 19:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I added more to the Nilkanth Varni portion. Check it out and take out the POV. You are really good at taking out POV on the Bhagwan SWaminarayan article. You can find it under the background section. I rote it and its not really well written. Juthani1 22:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Wikidas. There is a proposal for a Swaminarayan workgroup. If you are interested in being an editor on this project, or helping in any way, it is still in the proposal process. Any thoughts, comments and/or participation would be appreciated. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 20:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, do you have any thoughts on the above? The individual is an editor of Back to Godhead and has other notable attributes. Any thoughts you have would be appreciated. FYI - you can always find these Hindu related Afds at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Hinduism. I have put two articles up as well. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 23:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi - Just came around to say tht Iv added a line on Bhagwan Swaminarayan along with a reference on the Svayam Bhagavan page. BTW ur doin a gr8 job on the Swaminarayan Bhagwan page .. keep it up! Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 00:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Just started the article, pl. help expand if u no bout the topic n hv the time. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 11:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 16:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Namaskar, Just had a thought bout it - wont it be too similar to the Vaishnavism project? Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 19:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I like the idea of that workgroup. Will be the first to join. I am also a Radha Krishna worshipper. Juthani1 t c s 19:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
No, I will just add stuff to the list. We don't need the box. Juthani1 t c s 20:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC) What does MoS mean? Juthani1 t c s 20:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
You need to sign the wikiproject project thing as well. Move it to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals from the page its on right now. The invitation template is great. Do you want me to make a prooposed UBX. Juthani1 t c s 21:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Great, What should the name of the UBX be? Template:....
Wikidas, I dont know if you are well versed with the matter. The situation is thus. Bhagwan Swaminarayan made the Swaminarayan Sampraday and established a line of acharyas as successors via the Desh Vibhag Lekh. He also indicated this in other places, such as the Shikshapatri. When he left for Aksharham, he left the reins of the sampraday with the Acharyas and put Gopalanand Swami in charge of the Sampraday. Now, many years after this a sadhu of the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Vadtal, Yagnapurushji (later refered to as Shastriji Maharaj) and formed a sect of his own, BAPS. He was later excommunicated. His contention was that Bhagwan Swaminarayans spiritual successor was Gunatitanand Swami and not the Acharyas. The paradox is that Gunatitanand Swami had also left for Akshardham by then. Infact even Gunatitanand Swami, one of the main sadhus of Bhagwan Swaminarayan states “He who insults the temples, Acharyas, sadhus and satsangies will find his roots being destroyed and will inevitably fall from the satsang.” (Swami ni Vato Prakran 5, Vat 104). Now, I agree that since BAPS claims succession and is quite a large group, they need to be mentioned, but that sould not undermine the fact that the Acharyas were appointed by Bhagwan Swaminarayan himself and that BAPS and other groups only claim succession. I hope you get my point. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 23:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Wheredevelsdare and I figured out the NPOV for the succession thing. I misinterpreted it and changed it up a little. Are ther any others? Juthani1 t c s 13:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
The Acharyas came after Shajanand Swami's Death. He selected one for each of the gadis (so 2 together). after that there has been a successor. BAPS split since they believe that Gunatitanand Swami was the rightful heir and everyone after him is the rightful successor. The Swaminarayan Gadi thinks that Gopalanand Swami is the rightful heir. Tell me exactly what you want to change. You are on the right track. Do still need help with that one article you asked for my help on (when we first met)? Juthani1 t c s 16:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Iv answered ur 120 years question on Juthani1's talk pg, I hope ur now clear with the status of the Acharyas as the bonafide successors to Sahajanand Swami and the Desh Vibhag Lekh being his last will and testament. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 20:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
This is a page Iv been working on for some time. Id like your opinion on its present form. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Well there are more than hundreds of Swaminarayan Sampraday Mandirs world over (I dont know how many, but the list is HUGE) so adding all will prob take really long.
BAPS mandirs are not known as Shri Swaminarayan Mandir but BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir (Note the diff)'. Anyways, the BAPS temples are listed on the BAPS article itself. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 22:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed the It is believed because it is a proven fact in a court of law. The citation needed tag was removed because ref 4 covers that. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 22:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Don't move it to Swaminarayan. I've already redirected it there but it is best if labeled disambig. Thanks Juthani1 t c s 19:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I must comlement ur work on the Svayam Bhagavan page. I was just browsing around and I must say that the page is brilliant, and with a little more work, I should think it will be on its way to the Wikipedia Main Page - as featured article. All the best! - Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 00:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, what are your thoughts concerning the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Krishnaism. Do you know the purpose of this page, aside from allowing editors to state their purpose of supporting the project? Again, please let me know how I might be of assitance. Thank you for all of your hard work. Ism schism ( talk) 03:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The original Faiths worshipping RadhaKrishna sounds good. I would hv thgt it comes under the Hinduism/Vaishnava projects and not a seperate one. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I dont no how to use diacritics, is it fine if I put the Radhaashtak in normal words? Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I will change it to normal language. On a seperate note, you can listen to the Radhashtak on [2] (ull need to download it) and read it on [3]. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I use vista too - I can read it on the link. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 21:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Im working on it - in my Sandbox. should be ready by the end of the day. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 11:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Im not too much of an avid reader of scriptures and religious books - but Ill try and find a published source. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 12:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Since u mentioned Gaulok in the RadhaKrishna article, I tht Id tell u tht there are murtis of Gaulokvihari Maharaj in some mandirs such as the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Mumbai. Wheredevelsdare ( talk) 18:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure of this -
One of the self manifested Deities established by Gopala Bhatta Goswami is called Radharamana, it is not surprising that Radharamana is seen as not only Krishna but also as Radha-Krishna.
I am asking u as in Swaminarayan Mandirs too u hv murtis of Radharaman Dev, such as in Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Junagadh. This temple was made in Vikram Samvat 1884, and the Vikram Samvat (Indian Calendar) is 56 years ahead of the Gregorian (Roman Calendar). How could Radharamana hv been established by him when it already existed! AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 15:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry! my mistake. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Now ur confusing me - month of vaishaka 1542 - so tht must be Vikram Samvat calendar - right? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Out of curosity - Iv known u for some time now- but dont no ur beliefs - which sampraday/sect of hinduism do u belong to? Which part of the world are your from? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Now Im a little more confused -
1. Is the Gaudiya calendar same as Vikram Samvat or different 2. Did u state the month in VS and year in the Normal calendar
AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I dint know of a Gaudiya calendar - thanks for telling me. The Vikram Samvat is actually the most widely used Indian Calendar. Now I think I hv an ans. to one of my questions above - ur a Gaudiya Vaishnava. Where are you from? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 16:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
There is a problem on the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Bhuj page. The whole history section is being removed as flatterity. Iv tried to remove all the POV, but the guy keeps removing the section. Please help. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 18:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Since I messaged u the same editor has gone about clipping articles on different Mandirs, Acharyas etc. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 19:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree wth the Shri, MoS part and do not dispute that - but that does not mean one removes large parts of articles. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 19:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, I was working on it just today. See all the Mandir articles' history. This is before Cunando came into the picture. Im trying my best to remove POV - but just removing all information does not help. Ill try and rephrase everything - but I still dont know if tht will be enough. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 20:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
On a different note, we also worship other forms such as MadanMohan Dev and Gopinathji Maharaj. Do u too? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 20:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
By POV i meant Shri, Lord etc. the Swaminarayan Sampraday site, swaminarayan.info has info on all these temples, could tht be used as YES:POV? AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 20:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Good job catching the link spam by Ambi saba ( talk · contribs)! -- Kralizec! ( talk) 01:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I read on the Ahmedabad temple page that you wrote that Swaminarayan founded the Swaminarayan Faith. The statement is false, as he founded the Swaminarayan Sampraday and other groups claiming successorship were formed only a minimum 77 years after his death. i.e. He died in 1830 and the first group to claim succession was formed in 1907 (BAPS). Other groups were formed much later, eg. Swaminarayan Gadi was formed in the 1940's. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 15:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at Talk: Tejendraprasad Pande, leave your thoughts if you wish. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 21:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Namaskar,
Dont u think it wld b better to hv focus on the deities and hv a para on the temple, with a seperate article for the temple. Radha Ramana are worshipped in other temples too .. AroundTheGlobe ( talk) 15:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I dint c ur ans here. Wht I meant was it would be better to hv a sep article for the deity and temple. Other temples incl. Swaminarayan Temples too hv RadhaRaman Dev murtis - it mite not b worthwhile putting info of these temples on the RadhaRaman Dev page, but having info on one temple on the page might indicate to readers tht the deity is only worshpped in tht temple - something like wht it was when the Laxminarayan page had an article on the Birla temple in delhi (now moved to Laxminarayan Temple). Thanks for the MadanMohan Dev and Gopinathji Maharaj info - do Gaudiya Vaishnavas worship these forms? ATG Contact 20:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Then it may be better to mention tht tht is the reason why tht temple is mentioned on the article, although the deity is worshipped in many other temples too. ATG Contact 21:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, since I have been away I have seen that you have created many relevant articles for the Krishnaism project. Also, I want to thank you for creating the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Krishnaism/Bibilography, as this page will be very useful for building futher articles, and edifying others. Thank you for being such an important leader on this project. Please let me know how I can help in the future. I will be out of town every now and then, but would like to help with this project, so please do let me know how I might be of assistance. Thanks again for your hard work and leadership. Ism schism ( talk) 00:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikidas, what do you think about duplicating sections of the Radha Krishna page for the Krishnaism page, such as the various religious traditions etc. I think that would help contextualize it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 15:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
-- BorgQueen ( talk) 21:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! the first Krishnaism DYK! ATG Contact 16:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! (I apologize for the late reply - I've been busy with school.) I'd love to help as much as possible, so let me know if there is anything I can do. One thing, we probably need a box similar to {{ Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Vaishnavism articles by quality statistics}} for the project. -- Shruti14 t c s 22:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I think all Krishna related articles (RadhaKrishna, Laxminarayan, Narnarayan etc) shld b top priority. I further propose to tag all Swaminarayan articles with this project. ATG Contact 16:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just thinking about it - if your going to limit the scope to RadhaKrishna, then it might not be right to inlcude all the articles I mentioned. Ill explain, I just made an article on the Karachi temple and put tagged it with Krishnaism. However, the images in tht temple are of Narnarayan dev and Lord Swaminarayan - not RadhaKrishna dev like some other temples. When I saw RadhaKrishna on the talk page, I felt it wrong to tag it tht way as there are no images of RadhaKrishna in tht particlular temple. I had earlier tht it comes under Krishnaism as NarNarayan Dev is Nar, Arjun and Narayan, Krishna. ATG Contact 19:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, the first things I think are required for this to fly, and I've been involved in one recently, so I speak from some experience, is that you should move the "discussion" section to a "Statement by Wikidas" section. For it to proceed, it will need to have at least two editors indicate that they have directly stated that they find the editor's behavior questionable, prefereably included in the "Evidence of trying to resolve the dispute" section, to meet the required two-person threshold. Can you provide me with speciric links to all the relevant pages/discussions. At least the first of the links you provided, 3 in particular, aren't evidence of disruptive behavior, although 6 clearly violates NPA, 7 is probably acceptable, as it is just trying to limit content, 8 is less an insult, although it does seem to be close to threatening legal action. The last three all date from April, and at least #8 is later. At this point, I think a Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts might be the better way to go than a full RfC, both because it is an earlier step in dispute resolution, which probably should be taken first, and because it is, in a sense, less directly confrontational. But remember that you are, in effect, making a legal case yourself here. If you've seen the show, try to write it in your best Perry Mason style, presenting the evidence in chronological order for greatest ease of understanding. John Carter ( talk) 16:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
As u no v hv been having a lot of problems with POV on Swaminarayan pages. In this regard, Iv made a new pg on the Mandir in Karachi ( Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Karachi) - cld u pl go thru it & temme if there is any POV. Iv tried to make it as NPOV as poss with max. references. ATG Contact 21:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, will try and incorporate more info. ATG Contact 21:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It's nice - I like it. Thanks for making it. -- Shruti14 t c s 22:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Yup its gr8 .. only thing Id like to know is tht RadhaKrishna wld b non existent w/o Krishna - so shldnt tht b mentioned first .. ATG Contact 19:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated Template:VaishnavaSampradayasrs for deletion as suggested. Please comment and support/oppose the nomination there. Also, since you use it one your userpage, you may want to {{subst: it using VaishnavaSampradayasrs}} before it is deleted, if it is deleted and you still want the content in the template on you user page. Thanks. -- Shruti14 t c s 01:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
No, I don't think we should do that since they aren't centered around Radha Krishna. I don't think it should be done since they are already in the Vaishnav Progect anyway. If you really want to, I won't stop you from doing so. Juthani1 t c s 20:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Got Juthani1s approval. My contention to him was that Swaminarayan Bhagwan considers Krishna his isht Dev, so on tht count it comes under the Krishna project and he agreed. ATG Contact 20:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Re: [4] - Thanks for your message, and calling me India's most well known Wikipedian :) However, I may not be be the best one! Anyway, your request is engaging my active attention, and I shall come back soon. I could not attend to one of your earlier message in this regard as I could not pay deep attention to the issue. Regards. -- Bhadani ( talk) 15:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Iv nt gone thru the article in detail really to vote. The Bala Krishna one luks gud - Im surprised an aricle on Krishna as a balak dint exist till now. Well I made a pg on the Swaminarayan Mandir in Weehawken, NJ (u can get to it via Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, New Jersey) today, you can hv a luk and help with tht if u like. BTW hv u seen the infobox on the Swaminarayan page? Thanks, ATG Contact 23:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi,
I nominated Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Karachi for a DYK and the message put there is Date and length OK. Can not find hook in sourced material, lack of inline source makes this difficult. What does this mean and wht should be done to resolve this. ATG Contact 20:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I thgt of that too but its clearly mentioned in the ref. - According to Mahant Swami, the idols of Lord Swaminarayan were brought to India during Partition. “At present, one idol is at Khan village in Rajasthan,” he says. - this is a cut and pste from a Times of India article.
ATG
Contact 20:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Thats not the DYK - thts the ref. - the DYK is ... that the original images of Lord Swaminarayan at the Shri Swaminarayan Temple, Karachi in Pakistan were removed and taken to India during the turbulent times of the Partition of India?. ATG Contact 20:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Yup, I hv given the ref there now - the artcle has been wikilinked in bold. ATG Contact 21:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Solved - the ref. has been accepted. Around The Globe Contact 21:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, you have a big hand in it too - so congratulations to you too! Your help with Swaminarayan articles is much appreciated. Around The Globe Contact 17:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks and congrats. Im not aware of any Swaminarayan temple having a Balak roop Krishna murti (thts wht I understood frm the article). Though v do hv palnas with miniature murtis in them during janam. These normally hv 2 swinging peacocks on the 2 ends.(hv u herd of the dhun .. 'Lala ne palne sona na mor ..)Just to add - I had nominated Weehawken a couple of days bak along with Karachi. Now, Karachi having made it I dont know what wld b the status of the other one (they mite not want 2 Swaminarayan Temple articles within a span of a couple of days on) - though it might make it too .. Around The Globe Contact 21:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The Swaminarayan temples page is currently not rated - could you pl. rate it? Around The Globe Contact 21:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Can we use Bhagwan Swaminarayan rather than Bhagvan because it is used more oftenly. There are many times were words are mispelled but are stll the most common way people use them such as in this example. So can you support Bhagwan Swaminarayan Juthani1 t c s 22:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Congrats, it's on the mainpage right now Juthani1 t c s 23:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations - yet another Wikidas initiated article makes it to the main page .. Around The Globe Contact 23:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-- Victuallers ( talk) 23:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Wikidas. When you have time, please review my assessments of various Krishnaism articles. I have tried to follow the standards which were outlined. I would appreciate any corrections or comments you have. Thanks again for your hard work and leadership. Ism schism ( talk) 05:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I created Shri Radhika Krishnashtaka today. Pl. hv a look at wht Iv done as well as help with expansion. Around The Globe Contact 15:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, as for notabality there are 2 different reference sources tht I hv put. I cant find anything against this in NOT. I think if v expand the introduction it should be OK. Wht r ur thgts? Around The Globe Contact 16:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
NP. Juthani1 has been working on the templates - v hv been in touch on how it shld b. Im having a problem with the sourcing of the Radhashtak info - zero hits in Google books! and few in the web as well .. Im trying to source stuff frm other places now. Id appreciate if u cld rate the Swaminarayan temples articles when ur a bit free .. Around The Globe Contact 01:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Wikidas. Thanks for taking the time to review the article. I replied to your suggestion about changes to the lead, and inserted a few sentences to add coverage about the different views (and how they've changed). I was wondering if I could get your feedback about that. Regards, ITAQALLAH 14:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
17:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
This article needs major help- Rama Navami Can you help? Juthani1 t c s 18:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I dint c tht Ism schism has gone bout rating them. The ratings r fine - just wanted them rated. Juz one thing - he has rated the Swaminarayan Temples as start class - i think it might b a tier higher to tht - can u review tht. Around The Globe Contact 21:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for passing the article. Few things to remember when you pass an article:
-- Redtigerxyz ( talk) 04:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
My belief is the exact same, but I thought that God was the Christian form. Sorry about any trouble. thanks for the explanation. Juthani1 t c s 16:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)