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Challenge Records

Why do you keep on deleting it? It's very useful information that a lot of Challenge watchers want to see. If you insist on deleting it from the Contestants page, create a new page for just the records. Just deleting it from Wikipedia is absurd. 2601:5C2:8680:7770:594C:2B62:6207:C21B ( talk) 15:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

The records/feat are WP:TRIVIA, we don't include that on Wikipedia. Best used on the Wikia pages for the challenge. The most money won, maybe could go on the main articles page, but it would need sourcing and a better criteria than everyone over 100k. Reliable sourcing for the exact dollar amounts is the problem, the ones we used were doing original research, and some just totaled money from finals, others included every $1k won from daily challenges when money was awarded. It was inconsistent and unsourced WP:OR. WikiVirus C (talk) 15:46, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Please help to find the source of Market Watch for CNBC

Hi, I found that Market Watch, which is one of the most top-rated TV weekday prgramme on CNBC have been removed and Redirect to List of programs broadcast by CNBC#Former programming

I want to recover to the previous version that have sufficient content. Can you help me to find more sources. I can only find in wayback link to CNBC's website, which is not satisfly for some user who delete the article. Wpcpey ( talk) 20:32, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

I believe I looked previously and sourcing availability was sparse from way back when it was airing. Could only find mentions. The deletion discussion closed as redirect, so that has been decided by the community. Sources would have needed to be found while discussion was still going on. WikiVirus C (talk) 21:04, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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"More independent sources" on Arryn Zech page

I appreciate your effort to clean-up the page, but I'm not sure if removing the "citations that are interviews" is necessarily good as I was under the impression that in the opening part of a biography you are supposed to have sources for information. Its that way on the Barbara Dunkelman and Ashly Burch pages, so I just used the same logic here. As far as "more independent sources", I wish you the best of luck because I did a really deep dive on her when writing the bio and posting it recently, so I'm not sure how many more independent sources are out there. Historyday01 ( talk) 17:29, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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Reworded the line about Zech's bisexuality, but I'd say these two sources are sufficient to support her stated bisexuality. Please don't remove them. That would help no one. Saying "her talking about her being bisexual doesn't need a media "confirmed it"" would make sense, but media reporting ALWAYS helps in these cases, rather than just interviews. It is that simple. In addition on Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Bob Morley & Arryn Zech, there was already agreement that using these sources would be ok for THIS purpose (not for her accusations, as the consensus currently states that they can't be re-added back in). So, please, I do not want to fight you on this. Historyday01 ( talk) 16:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

How does it help. She said she was bisexual, we need multiple reports of her saying she is bisexual? I'm confused on what you mean media reporting helps in these cases. She has outright said it. WikiVirus C (talk) 16:16, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
It helps because it provides further proof of her bisexuality. It is MUCH better to use media reporting as a source than let's say a tweet from Zech or Instagram post. If the latter is the ONLY thing that is available, then that would be fine, but in this case it is NOT. Historyday01 ( talk) 16:21, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
Media isn't the proof of sexuality, and my point wasn't that we shouldn't use media reporting, it was that we don't need multiple instances of reports of her saying she is Bisexual, when one instance is enough. If you want to continue this discussion do it on the talk page, or the BLP noticeboard where others can more easily see it. WikiVirus C (talk) 16:25, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
I think leaving the discussion here is better, as I think talking more about this wouldn't help anyone. Simply put, the media is reporting on her being bisexual. What the heck is your problem with that? Obviously they are not "proving" she is bisexual, they are just reporting on it. That is common sense. When I said "proof" and "support", I meant they are reporting on it, simple as that. Anyway, I revised the page to only cite ONE source rather than two. I hope that alleviates your concern. Historyday01 ( talk) 16:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
Once again please take this to appropriate venue. WikiVirus C (talk) 16:58, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
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For helping revert edits by, report, and block the vandal on Michael B. Jordan. Cheers! interstate five  20:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
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Apologies for not realizing the WP:THESUN condition whilst amending the information on the pages. Thank you so much for revising my mistake, I'll work on finding a more reliable source to support all of the information I've found. Gekiclaws ( talk) 18:19, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem, I also just left a message on your talk page as you were writing this. WikiVirus C (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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Why do you keep on deleting it? It's very useful information that a lot of Challenge watchers want to see. If you insist on deleting it from the Contestants page, create a new page for just the records. Just deleting it from Wikipedia is absurd. 2601:5C2:8680:7770:594C:2B62:6207:C21B ( talk) 15:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

The records/feat are WP:TRIVIA, we don't include that on Wikipedia. Best used on the Wikia pages for the challenge. The most money won, maybe could go on the main articles page, but it would need sourcing and a better criteria than everyone over 100k. Reliable sourcing for the exact dollar amounts is the problem, the ones we used were doing original research, and some just totaled money from finals, others included every $1k won from daily challenges when money was awarded. It was inconsistent and unsourced WP:OR. WikiVirus C (talk) 15:46, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Please help to find the source of Market Watch for CNBC

Hi, I found that Market Watch, which is one of the most top-rated TV weekday prgramme on CNBC have been removed and Redirect to List of programs broadcast by CNBC#Former programming

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I believe I looked previously and sourcing availability was sparse from way back when it was airing. Could only find mentions. The deletion discussion closed as redirect, so that has been decided by the community. Sources would have needed to be found while discussion was still going on. WikiVirus C (talk) 21:04, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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I appreciate your effort to clean-up the page, but I'm not sure if removing the "citations that are interviews" is necessarily good as I was under the impression that in the opening part of a biography you are supposed to have sources for information. Its that way on the Barbara Dunkelman and Ashly Burch pages, so I just used the same logic here. As far as "more independent sources", I wish you the best of luck because I did a really deep dive on her when writing the bio and posting it recently, so I'm not sure how many more independent sources are out there. Historyday01 ( talk) 17:29, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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Reworded the line about Zech's bisexuality, but I'd say these two sources are sufficient to support her stated bisexuality. Please don't remove them. That would help no one. Saying "her talking about her being bisexual doesn't need a media "confirmed it"" would make sense, but media reporting ALWAYS helps in these cases, rather than just interviews. It is that simple. In addition on Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Bob Morley & Arryn Zech, there was already agreement that using these sources would be ok for THIS purpose (not for her accusations, as the consensus currently states that they can't be re-added back in). So, please, I do not want to fight you on this. Historyday01 ( talk) 16:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

How does it help. She said she was bisexual, we need multiple reports of her saying she is bisexual? I'm confused on what you mean media reporting helps in these cases. She has outright said it. WikiVirus C (talk) 16:16, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
It helps because it provides further proof of her bisexuality. It is MUCH better to use media reporting as a source than let's say a tweet from Zech or Instagram post. If the latter is the ONLY thing that is available, then that would be fine, but in this case it is NOT. Historyday01 ( talk) 16:21, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
Media isn't the proof of sexuality, and my point wasn't that we shouldn't use media reporting, it was that we don't need multiple instances of reports of her saying she is Bisexual, when one instance is enough. If you want to continue this discussion do it on the talk page, or the BLP noticeboard where others can more easily see it. WikiVirus C (talk) 16:25, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
I think leaving the discussion here is better, as I think talking more about this wouldn't help anyone. Simply put, the media is reporting on her being bisexual. What the heck is your problem with that? Obviously they are not "proving" she is bisexual, they are just reporting on it. That is common sense. When I said "proof" and "support", I meant they are reporting on it, simple as that. Anyway, I revised the page to only cite ONE source rather than two. I hope that alleviates your concern. Historyday01 ( talk) 16:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
Once again please take this to appropriate venue. WikiVirus C (talk) 16:58, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
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Apologies for not realizing the WP:THESUN condition whilst amending the information on the pages. Thank you so much for revising my mistake, I'll work on finding a more reliable source to support all of the information I've found. Gekiclaws ( talk) 18:19, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem, I also just left a message on your talk page as you were writing this. WikiVirus C (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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