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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot ( talk) 07:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello, Viljowf. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Stephanus Muller".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:23, 26 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern African Music & Sound, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern African Music & Sound and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern African Music & Sound during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Bearcat ( talk) 01:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi Viljowf,

Sorry, I didn't see your comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern African Music & Sound before it closed. For what it's worth, I'm not trying to squash ambitions here - if you want to get an editing group going, that's fantastic! Happy to make suggestions. It's just that the full machinery of tagging articles, assessing them, etc. is "heavyweight" and tends to lead to a lot of "wasted" work on internal stuff that readers never see. So it's usually best to start an informal group first so that the focus is on editing, not on internal organization, which Wikipedia already has in spades. A simple on-wiki list of articles worked on works fine, or using Category:South African music. You can see that Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa/Politics task force has a list of related categories, for example.

I'm not trying to be too much a downer here, just this is one of those "from bitter experience" thing - there are tons and tons of inactive task forces lying around that had one or two well-meaning people doing a bunch of work on internal organization, then nobody else showing up, then the main editor moving on. Which is sad but harmless if it was just a page or two, but leaves a bunch of Stuff everywhere otherwise which nobody wants to clean up, and is perceived as a feel bad "this topic doesn't matter" if it IS cleaned up. The end goal is upgrading the articles themselves, after all.

That said, I'd recommend considering just asking on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Africa, and either moving your project to a subpage, or possibly creating a task force similar to the Politics task force linked above. If you go the task force option, there'll be an option added to the Template:WikiProject South Africa list where someone can simply mark an article already marked as South Africa as also being about music. That said, I'd really suggest just seeing how things go first. SnowFire ( talk) 19:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply