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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Restaurant-Week-Logo.png

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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Ramjee-Chandran.JPG

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The article Bangalore Restaurant Week has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Concern relating to WP:Notability, Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 11:11, 18 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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Deletion discussion on Bangalore Restaurant Week on here. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 10:23, 21 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Suggest you read WP:Notability - thereafter if you still feel that the article is worth retaining you can put forward your reasoning here. With regards to the prod, its OK for you to remove it - however you must give reasoning in your edit summary. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 07:01, 22 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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Thank you. I appreciate your help. Will do so henceforth for sure. Varunr ( talk) 10:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Explocity Deletion Discussion

NOTIFY: An article you started, Explocity is undergoing a deletion discussion here. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 06:17, 25 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Request to hold deletion. I have explained and responded why it must not be deleted. Varunr ( talk) 07:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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Level 10 Comics article

I'm not really knowledgeable about the subject area, so I'm not the best person to ask if it meets our general notability standards, but it looks like you've at least done your homework and gotten some reliable citations. Try putting the article out in the main space and see what people do with it. ( ESkog)( Talk) 15:17, 13 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your help. I will do so and await reactions. Varunr ( talk) 04:03, 14 October 2011 (UTC) reply

I'm very sorry for a late reply on this subject, but I concur with the above - when I first looked at the page, it definitely looked very much passable to me. The big concern these days for the articles are sources, and if there's a bunch of links to actual newspaper stories and like, then things are probably green. I unfortunately don't know what's the current consensus on corporate notability otherwise, but I can tell you that as an admin, I definitely wouldn't speedy-delete the article as barely legible unsourced spam, because the article obviously is well-constructed, articulate, reasonably sourced and sufficiently neutral in tone. Exactly the article material we are looking for. =) -- wwwwolf ( barks/ growls) 22:59, 27 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thank you for the feedback. Really appreciate your comments. Thanks again! Varunr ( talk) 07:42, 29 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Re:Created a new Wiki and requesting feedback

Hey Varunr,

Well can u please tell me exactly what do u want me to check in your article as i am not very knowledgeable about this topic. Till then i would just suggest you put many creative pics make your article attractive looking so that it goes with your topic.. Besties for further editing

Anu2033 ( talk) 05:54, 14 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks Anu. Will try and jazz it up. Appreciate it. Varunr ( talk) 08:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC) reply


I've noticed your request for feedback on some talk pages that I stalk. The clearest issue with the page is the number of external links. If you read the external links policy, then you should be able to cut them down to a more acceptable level. For starters, remove the social networking links e.g. Twitter & facebook. Good luck. -- Mrmatiko ( talk) 11:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC) reply

RE:

Im sorry Im very busy at the moment in real life, I suggest you contact someone like User: Redtigerxyz who may be able to help you better. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 17:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thank you. Appreciate your help. Will contact User:Redtigerxyz. Varunr ( talk) 04:57, 18 October 2011 (UTC) reply

More information needed about File:RestaurantWeek-Logo.jpg

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It was really helpful of you to you to upload File:RestaurantWeek-Logo.jpg. However, we need to properly format the image license information in order to keep and use new images.

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Hi, Thank you so much for your input. I tried inserting {{ cc-zero}} but the logo still doesn't show on the page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Varunr/Bangalore_restaurant_week). Can you help, please?
I've helped. Please go back to Media Copyright Questions to see my explanation of what happened. Nyttend ( talk) 05:53, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much. Really appreciate your help. Thanks again.

Varunr ( talk) 07:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply

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I request you to change the speedy deletion request immediately. I am totally authorised to use the logo. I am the creator of the logo and have complete authority over it. Please let me know what I need to do to prevent the said deletion.

Look forward to your help. Varunr ( talk) 14:42, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply

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Restaurant Week

I've had a look at the article and it feels a bit over promotional to me. If you could use the press mentions as references instead of in a separate external links section that would be a start. Also removing all but the official website external link would also be good. In terms of writing I would suggest that you expand the history section a bit more if possible. -- Mrmatiko ( talk) 11:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply

I don't have any better suggestions than what Mrmatiko just gave you; unfortunately, this isn't an area where I work a lot. Nyttend ( talk) 12:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you both. I appreciate it. Varunr ( talk) 12:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Again, not my area of interest. I would say that references 3 (facebook), 8 and 10 (youtube) are probably not useable. Did the event receive any coverage in major newspapers, such as Times of India? These are the sort of references that help to establish whether or not an article can pass WP:GNG. Mjroots ( talk) 13:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you. While the said references are on Facebook and Youtube, those are coverage done by actual and reputable Television News channels. Does that not count? Yes there are Newspaper mentions too, Note 5 and 6 are Newspaper clips and also, check the section titled Press mentions. Does that help? Varunr ( talk) 06:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
If these sites are hosting copyrighted material (which a video of a news item is), then they can't be used as references. See WP:YOUTUBE for the full explanation. Mjroots ( talk) 06:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
I get it. Thanks for pointing that out. I've removed the Facebook video. And will be removing the Youtube links also. Added a few more Newspaper clips as citations. Thank you so much. I really appreciate what you're doing to help. God bless! Varunr ( talk) 07:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply

OK, here's a few pointers to begin with.

Sources

Instead of linking to the newspaper clippings from explocity, try linking to websites of the newspapers itself. That should help increase the apparent credibility of the sources. Remove the youtube link.

An easy way to decide for sources is this:

  • User-generated content: Not acceptable (this includes all social networking, youtube, blogs, twitter etc.)
  • Official website: Not acceptable (with exception for undisputable facts)
  • Press releases: Not acceptable
  • Articles in newspapers/websites/magazines/anything else with editorial control which are neither affiliated to nor owned by the event organizers: Acceptable

Useful links:

Other stuff:

  • Avoid weasel words (words that add point of view without adding information:Example: 74 of reportedly the best restaurants in Bangalore... Note that the about.com article nowhere says that the restaurants were "the best"
  • Remove the press mentions section. They're the same as your references.
  • You should note that it is not necessary for a reliable source to be on the internet, even though it is preferred. So you don't need to link to scanned images of newspaper coverage. As long as the newspaper article is real, you can simply cite the newspaper article with details on the newspaper name, author, date, publisher etc.
  • Its probably real tough for you to add sources right now. You should try using the reftoolbar (the blue bar above the editbox when you're editing a page). Take the cursor to the end of the sentence for which you want to add a reference. Click on Cite, from the dropdown menu labeled Templates on the left in the second row, choose the type of reference you want to add (News, Web etc.); a window will pop up, add appropriate information to this window, press Insert. The citation code will automatically be added to the editbox. Then click on Save Page and you're done.
the dropdown menu
the citation window

Feel free to ask at my talkpage if you need any more help.-- Siddhartha Ghai ( talk) 04:52, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you so much! This is really helpful. I will try and incorporate these ASAP. Thanks again. I really appreciate this. Varunr ( talk) 05:38, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply

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Whpq ( talk) 11:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply

Some falafel for you!

I'd like to commend you for seeking out opinions, and seeking out sources in your quest to recreate the Bangalore Restaurant Week article. Although I believe it currently falls short for inclusion, it is absolutely the right approach to article building. I encourage you to keep this up. It's a great way to build this, or any other article on Wikipedia. If you have any questions, or need any help, please don't hesitate to post on my talk page. Cheers! Whpq ( talk) 14:35, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much! That's a really kind gesture. Thanks for commending the effort. I consider falafel to be a trophy for me! Thanks for your help and appreciation. Varunr ( talk) 05:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Your submission at Articles for creation

Bangalore restaurant week, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

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Whpq ( talk) 12:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC) reply

Radha Thomas

I've had a look at the article, an I think that you've demonstrated she is notable enough to sustain and article per WP:GNG. One minor criticism is the use of bare urls for references. See WP:CITE, The minimum information required from the {{ cite web}} is {{cite web |url= |title= |publisher= |accessdate=}} - you can copy and paste this to use in properly formatting the references. Mjroots ( talk) 09:18, 18 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:43, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

AFC for Radha Thomas

I'm about to leave for work, so I don't have time to check the article very carefully. Please come back and bug me if I don't give you a fuller reply later.

I do have a few concerns about the article as it presently stands:

  • On a minor formatting note, citations should go after punctuation. "A is bigger than B,<ref>dictionary</ref> which is smaller than C".<ref>encyclopedia</ref>
  • Putting two or more citations together (e.g. the first line) is not conducive to verification, since we're not clear what comes from what. In particular, I'm concerned about citation #2, which doesn't even mention her; why did you include it there? If you'd put each citation after the things that it was referencing, it would be clearer.
  • It would help if you had citations for the "Business Development for Explocity" section.
  • When you cite a Web document, you should provide a full citation: this includes the author (if given), the name of the page, the website name, the date when the document was produced (if it be unavailable, write "n.d." for "no date"), and the date when you accessed it.
  • I'm also concerned about your dependence on recent newspapers. Since Wikipedia isn't the newspaper, you really need to find citations in a wider range of sources: can you provide sources on her from stable publications, such as reliable books or academic journal articles? Have you looked for non-news sources online, or for newspapers that are several years old? If only the company's website and very recent newspapers have covered her, I'd have to question whether she yet be ready for an encyclopedia article.

I'll do my best to give you a fuller response later. Nyttend ( talk) 12:11, 18 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:43, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Review of Radha Thomas draft

Hi,

On referencing, others have pointed out the formatting of citations. I want to discuss the references themselves.

Ref 1 appears to be a business directory listing. I don't see the need for this as it does not appear to verify anything, and it certainly does not contribute towards notability.

ref 2 suffers from the same problem as ref 1. This isn't an article about Explocity, and any non-controversial statements about the company need not have a reference given that there is an article ont eh company itself that has references.

ref 3 is again a refernce that does not mention Radha Thomas

ref 4 is problematic for two reasons. First, it does not support the assertion that Thomas has held her position since 1999. Second, the web site does not appear to be a reliable source as the information appears to be user submitted.

ref 5 is useful for notability, but you shoudl look at the wording in the article. Using the phrase "one of India's leading jazz-fusion bands" is promotional language. In fact, look at the article and remove any other instance of such language.

ref 6 is useful for verification, but as a bio from a cultural festival, it is not useful for establishing notability.

ref 7 is verifies the statement and incrementally adds to notabiltiy so this is useful.

ref 8 and ref 9 are used to verify the same statement. Ref 8 is a one line mention. I would drop that reference entirely as ref 9 is sufficient. Again on the neutral point of view, there is no support for the claim that Human Bondage was the most popular band in the 70's.

ref 10 requires a subscription that I do not have so I am unable to view it.

ref 11 fails to verify that Thomas is a featured artist. Was her maiden name "Shottom". In any case, the claim of featured artist is not borne out by the reference.

ref 12 has an error in the url but I assume that the one I have here is correct, in which case again, the reference fails to verify the information presented.

ref 13 verifies information, but as a passing mention, is not useful for notability.

ref 14 is not a reliable source as it is a Wikipedia mirror.

ref 15 is only passing mention. It verifies information but is not useful for notability.

ref 16 is an interview. there is some disagreement on interviews with respect to notability, but I would be inclined to have them contribute towards notability.


ref 17 is also an interview so same comment as ref 16.

ref 18 is a profile from her publisher and is likely self-written. Ir's only useful s a ref for non-contrversial information and not for establishing notability.


Overall, it appears that notability can be established with some key sources noted above. I agree with Nyttend that some older sources would be useful although I acknowledge they may be difficult to find online.

Given that the primary claim to notability as a musician, the lead paragraph should be written to reflect that. As it stands right now, the lead paragraph implies she is best known for being a business executive, and then, oh, by the way, she also does a bit of singing.

I hope these comments help. Regards. -- Whpq ( talk) 15:24, 18 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Whpq gave a better review than I could have given. In my quick overview of the article earlier today, I completely overlooked the fact that you were saying that her notability derives from her musical career; you definitely need to emphasise that more than her current business career. You really need to show that she's been covered in non-news sources or that she's been covered in news sources from a long period of time, because someone who just gets news coverage in a comparatively short period of time is likely to fall under WP:BLP1E. This policy page basically says that someone who gets a lot of coverage in a comparatively short period of time but little or no coverage in other times shouldn't have an article, and if someone write an article about that person, the article should generally be deleted. Nyttend ( talk) 01:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you both very much! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:44, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Feedback on Radha Thomas (or, "whoops, I'm too late")

The article is definitely shaping up, it seems. I was going to give more helpful advice, but apparently the other commenters above have done my job this time. =) So I'll just briefly state that you may want to learn how to use the {{ cite web}} template to format web citations - web citations should have at least the article name, publisher's name, when the article was published (if known) and as an overlooked but pretty important detail the access date. (From scholarly perspective it's important to just state "we can say this is what the website said at that point in time".) The "writing career" section probably could use more cites, and shouldn't be too difficult to find proper sources either.

As a special tip, I can recommend the Zotero tool, which makes saving citations off of web pages easy. Save a cite, edit the fields, repeat, and in the end you can just export all citations you choose in Wikipedia citation template format. Very handy. =) -- wwwwolf ( barks/ growls) 11:54, 19 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:45, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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Suggest you read WP:Notability - thereafter if you still feel that the article is worth retaining you can put forward your reasoning here. With regards to the prod, its OK for you to remove it - however you must give reasoning in your edit summary. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 07:01, 22 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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Thank you. I appreciate your help. Will do so henceforth for sure. Varunr ( talk) 10:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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Request to hold deletion. I have explained and responded why it must not be deleted. Varunr ( talk) 07:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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I'm not really knowledgeable about the subject area, so I'm not the best person to ask if it meets our general notability standards, but it looks like you've at least done your homework and gotten some reliable citations. Try putting the article out in the main space and see what people do with it. ( ESkog)( Talk) 15:17, 13 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your help. I will do so and await reactions. Varunr ( talk) 04:03, 14 October 2011 (UTC) reply

I'm very sorry for a late reply on this subject, but I concur with the above - when I first looked at the page, it definitely looked very much passable to me. The big concern these days for the articles are sources, and if there's a bunch of links to actual newspaper stories and like, then things are probably green. I unfortunately don't know what's the current consensus on corporate notability otherwise, but I can tell you that as an admin, I definitely wouldn't speedy-delete the article as barely legible unsourced spam, because the article obviously is well-constructed, articulate, reasonably sourced and sufficiently neutral in tone. Exactly the article material we are looking for. =) -- wwwwolf ( barks/ growls) 22:59, 27 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thank you for the feedback. Really appreciate your comments. Thanks again! Varunr ( talk) 07:42, 29 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Re:Created a new Wiki and requesting feedback

Hey Varunr,

Well can u please tell me exactly what do u want me to check in your article as i am not very knowledgeable about this topic. Till then i would just suggest you put many creative pics make your article attractive looking so that it goes with your topic.. Besties for further editing

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Thanks Anu. Will try and jazz it up. Appreciate it. Varunr ( talk) 08:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC) reply


I've noticed your request for feedback on some talk pages that I stalk. The clearest issue with the page is the number of external links. If you read the external links policy, then you should be able to cut them down to a more acceptable level. For starters, remove the social networking links e.g. Twitter & facebook. Good luck. -- Mrmatiko ( talk) 11:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC) reply

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Im sorry Im very busy at the moment in real life, I suggest you contact someone like User: Redtigerxyz who may be able to help you better. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 17:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Thank you. Appreciate your help. Will contact User:Redtigerxyz. Varunr ( talk) 04:57, 18 October 2011 (UTC) reply

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Hi, Thank you so much for your input. I tried inserting {{ cc-zero}} but the logo still doesn't show on the page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Varunr/Bangalore_restaurant_week). Can you help, please?
I've helped. Please go back to Media Copyright Questions to see my explanation of what happened. Nyttend ( talk) 05:53, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much. Really appreciate your help. Thanks again.

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I request you to change the speedy deletion request immediately. I am totally authorised to use the logo. I am the creator of the logo and have complete authority over it. Please let me know what I need to do to prevent the said deletion.

Look forward to your help. Varunr ( talk) 14:42, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply

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Restaurant Week

I've had a look at the article and it feels a bit over promotional to me. If you could use the press mentions as references instead of in a separate external links section that would be a start. Also removing all but the official website external link would also be good. In terms of writing I would suggest that you expand the history section a bit more if possible. -- Mrmatiko ( talk) 11:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply

I don't have any better suggestions than what Mrmatiko just gave you; unfortunately, this isn't an area where I work a lot. Nyttend ( talk) 12:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you both. I appreciate it. Varunr ( talk) 12:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Again, not my area of interest. I would say that references 3 (facebook), 8 and 10 (youtube) are probably not useable. Did the event receive any coverage in major newspapers, such as Times of India? These are the sort of references that help to establish whether or not an article can pass WP:GNG. Mjroots ( talk) 13:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you. While the said references are on Facebook and Youtube, those are coverage done by actual and reputable Television News channels. Does that not count? Yes there are Newspaper mentions too, Note 5 and 6 are Newspaper clips and also, check the section titled Press mentions. Does that help? Varunr ( talk) 06:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
If these sites are hosting copyrighted material (which a video of a news item is), then they can't be used as references. See WP:YOUTUBE for the full explanation. Mjroots ( talk) 06:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
I get it. Thanks for pointing that out. I've removed the Facebook video. And will be removing the Youtube links also. Added a few more Newspaper clips as citations. Thank you so much. I really appreciate what you're doing to help. God bless! Varunr ( talk) 07:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply

OK, here's a few pointers to begin with.

Sources

Instead of linking to the newspaper clippings from explocity, try linking to websites of the newspapers itself. That should help increase the apparent credibility of the sources. Remove the youtube link.

An easy way to decide for sources is this:

  • User-generated content: Not acceptable (this includes all social networking, youtube, blogs, twitter etc.)
  • Official website: Not acceptable (with exception for undisputable facts)
  • Press releases: Not acceptable
  • Articles in newspapers/websites/magazines/anything else with editorial control which are neither affiliated to nor owned by the event organizers: Acceptable

Useful links:

Other stuff:

  • Avoid weasel words (words that add point of view without adding information:Example: 74 of reportedly the best restaurants in Bangalore... Note that the about.com article nowhere says that the restaurants were "the best"
  • Remove the press mentions section. They're the same as your references.
  • You should note that it is not necessary for a reliable source to be on the internet, even though it is preferred. So you don't need to link to scanned images of newspaper coverage. As long as the newspaper article is real, you can simply cite the newspaper article with details on the newspaper name, author, date, publisher etc.
  • Its probably real tough for you to add sources right now. You should try using the reftoolbar (the blue bar above the editbox when you're editing a page). Take the cursor to the end of the sentence for which you want to add a reference. Click on Cite, from the dropdown menu labeled Templates on the left in the second row, choose the type of reference you want to add (News, Web etc.); a window will pop up, add appropriate information to this window, press Insert. The citation code will automatically be added to the editbox. Then click on Save Page and you're done.
the dropdown menu
the citation window

Feel free to ask at my talkpage if you need any more help.-- Siddhartha Ghai ( talk) 04:52, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you so much! This is really helpful. I will try and incorporate these ASAP. Thanks again. I really appreciate this. Varunr ( talk) 05:38, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply

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Some falafel for you!

I'd like to commend you for seeking out opinions, and seeking out sources in your quest to recreate the Bangalore Restaurant Week article. Although I believe it currently falls short for inclusion, it is absolutely the right approach to article building. I encourage you to keep this up. It's a great way to build this, or any other article on Wikipedia. If you have any questions, or need any help, please don't hesitate to post on my talk page. Cheers! Whpq ( talk) 14:35, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much! That's a really kind gesture. Thanks for commending the effort. I consider falafel to be a trophy for me! Thanks for your help and appreciation. Varunr ( talk) 05:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC) reply

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Radha Thomas

I've had a look at the article, an I think that you've demonstrated she is notable enough to sustain and article per WP:GNG. One minor criticism is the use of bare urls for references. See WP:CITE, The minimum information required from the {{ cite web}} is {{cite web |url= |title= |publisher= |accessdate=}} - you can copy and paste this to use in properly formatting the references. Mjroots ( talk) 09:18, 18 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:43, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

AFC for Radha Thomas

I'm about to leave for work, so I don't have time to check the article very carefully. Please come back and bug me if I don't give you a fuller reply later.

I do have a few concerns about the article as it presently stands:

  • On a minor formatting note, citations should go after punctuation. "A is bigger than B,<ref>dictionary</ref> which is smaller than C".<ref>encyclopedia</ref>
  • Putting two or more citations together (e.g. the first line) is not conducive to verification, since we're not clear what comes from what. In particular, I'm concerned about citation #2, which doesn't even mention her; why did you include it there? If you'd put each citation after the things that it was referencing, it would be clearer.
  • It would help if you had citations for the "Business Development for Explocity" section.
  • When you cite a Web document, you should provide a full citation: this includes the author (if given), the name of the page, the website name, the date when the document was produced (if it be unavailable, write "n.d." for "no date"), and the date when you accessed it.
  • I'm also concerned about your dependence on recent newspapers. Since Wikipedia isn't the newspaper, you really need to find citations in a wider range of sources: can you provide sources on her from stable publications, such as reliable books or academic journal articles? Have you looked for non-news sources online, or for newspapers that are several years old? If only the company's website and very recent newspapers have covered her, I'd have to question whether she yet be ready for an encyclopedia article.

I'll do my best to give you a fuller response later. Nyttend ( talk) 12:11, 18 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:43, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Review of Radha Thomas draft

Hi,

On referencing, others have pointed out the formatting of citations. I want to discuss the references themselves.

Ref 1 appears to be a business directory listing. I don't see the need for this as it does not appear to verify anything, and it certainly does not contribute towards notability.

ref 2 suffers from the same problem as ref 1. This isn't an article about Explocity, and any non-controversial statements about the company need not have a reference given that there is an article ont eh company itself that has references.

ref 3 is again a refernce that does not mention Radha Thomas

ref 4 is problematic for two reasons. First, it does not support the assertion that Thomas has held her position since 1999. Second, the web site does not appear to be a reliable source as the information appears to be user submitted.

ref 5 is useful for notability, but you shoudl look at the wording in the article. Using the phrase "one of India's leading jazz-fusion bands" is promotional language. In fact, look at the article and remove any other instance of such language.

ref 6 is useful for verification, but as a bio from a cultural festival, it is not useful for establishing notability.

ref 7 is verifies the statement and incrementally adds to notabiltiy so this is useful.

ref 8 and ref 9 are used to verify the same statement. Ref 8 is a one line mention. I would drop that reference entirely as ref 9 is sufficient. Again on the neutral point of view, there is no support for the claim that Human Bondage was the most popular band in the 70's.

ref 10 requires a subscription that I do not have so I am unable to view it.

ref 11 fails to verify that Thomas is a featured artist. Was her maiden name "Shottom". In any case, the claim of featured artist is not borne out by the reference.

ref 12 has an error in the url but I assume that the one I have here is correct, in which case again, the reference fails to verify the information presented.

ref 13 verifies information, but as a passing mention, is not useful for notability.

ref 14 is not a reliable source as it is a Wikipedia mirror.

ref 15 is only passing mention. It verifies information but is not useful for notability.

ref 16 is an interview. there is some disagreement on interviews with respect to notability, but I would be inclined to have them contribute towards notability.


ref 17 is also an interview so same comment as ref 16.

ref 18 is a profile from her publisher and is likely self-written. Ir's only useful s a ref for non-contrversial information and not for establishing notability.


Overall, it appears that notability can be established with some key sources noted above. I agree with Nyttend that some older sources would be useful although I acknowledge they may be difficult to find online.

Given that the primary claim to notability as a musician, the lead paragraph should be written to reflect that. As it stands right now, the lead paragraph implies she is best known for being a business executive, and then, oh, by the way, she also does a bit of singing.

I hope these comments help. Regards. -- Whpq ( talk) 15:24, 18 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Whpq gave a better review than I could have given. In my quick overview of the article earlier today, I completely overlooked the fact that you were saying that her notability derives from her musical career; you definitely need to emphasise that more than her current business career. You really need to show that she's been covered in non-news sources or that she's been covered in news sources from a long period of time, because someone who just gets news coverage in a comparatively short period of time is likely to fall under WP:BLP1E. This policy page basically says that someone who gets a lot of coverage in a comparatively short period of time but little or no coverage in other times shouldn't have an article, and if someone write an article about that person, the article should generally be deleted. Nyttend ( talk) 01:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC) reply
Thank you both very much! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:44, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Feedback on Radha Thomas (or, "whoops, I'm too late")

The article is definitely shaping up, it seems. I was going to give more helpful advice, but apparently the other commenters above have done my job this time. =) So I'll just briefly state that you may want to learn how to use the {{ cite web}} template to format web citations - web citations should have at least the article name, publisher's name, when the article was published (if known) and as an overlooked but pretty important detail the access date. (From scholarly perspective it's important to just state "we can say this is what the website said at that point in time".) The "writing career" section probably could use more cites, and shouldn't be too difficult to find proper sources either.

As a special tip, I can recommend the Zotero tool, which makes saving citations off of web pages easy. Save a cite, edit the fields, repeat, and in the end you can just export all citations you choose in Wikipedia citation template format. Very handy. =) -- wwwwolf ( barks/ growls) 11:54, 19 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:45, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

RE: Article about Radha Thomas

IMO, the subject fails WP:Biography and a lot of the refs like Yellowpages are cannot be called WP:RS. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 06:24, 20 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Thank you! I've made more changes. I think I'm still lacking in the citations formatting, but I'll get there :-) Varunr ( talk) 11:45, 29 September 2012 (UTC) reply

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