I realise that the link I added to www.hes-all-right.blogspot.com is a blog, but so is Boltwatch, the link above that. I came across Boltwatch because of the wikipedia article and believe that the other side of the debate should be shown. This site was just started today, but if the wikipedia article linked to it alongside the link to Boltwatch, I believe it would get more publicity, hits and comments and would run as the flipside to Boltwatch and this would be valuable to everyone.
However, I will try adding the link at a later time when the content of the site is more complete. —This unsigned comment was added by 220.237.172.187 ( talk • contribs) .
Thank you for following up on this OTRS request and releasing the block of this IP address. Best regards, Hall Monitor 17:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
<3 -- 72.160.73.242 12:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Wow, is there an echo in here...? pfctdayelise ( translate?) 13:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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Hello Thebainer : ) Thank- you for switching the article name and cleaning up the article. I thought about doing that myself. Much better for you to do it. Hope the unsourced information stays out. -- FloNight talk 03:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I think the dispute has died down now. I don't think anyone has any immediate plans to rename. :) Stevage 16:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Josh Wolf and earlier this week someone learned of my encounter with the grand jury and started an article about me under the name Joshua Wolf. The log reveals much about how people decided I wasn't notable after googling my name as Joshua; however, though I don't know whether I really am particularly notable, I'm certainly much more recognized as Josh Wolf than I am Joshua.
A few notable achievements: Was an early critical voice regarding Current TV's policies -- this resulted in TIME and Salon Coverage.
My footage has also been used in several legal cases on behalf of activists who were wrongly persecuted. Thanks for your consideration... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.137.146.120 ( talk • contribs) .
--Thanks for the response, I'll go ahead and follow up on that -- is there any way for me to read the article that had been up on wikipedia about me? I'm curious how it was written... thanks... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.137.146.120 ( talk • contribs) .
Cool, I think I did all that correctly... so far it seems I've not been deemed notable -- and that's totally cool, but at the same time, the fact that the entry for "Josh Wolf" is a re-direct for the soccer star "Josh Wolff" is somewhat frustrating given the fact that if people did feel that my history is worth creating a wikipedia entry, doing so would not be a simple operation... thanks again. Joshwolf 15:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Cricket subcategories for deletion here. This is just a courtesy note because you took part in an earlier inconclusive debate on the same subject, and may wish to comment on this one. If you're not interested, please forgive the intrusion. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I see you redirected the page Theni district, which I had nominated for deletion; thanks for cleaning that up. (On reflection, I probably could have checked that out myself. Live and learn.) I have a question about the four related pages I nominated at the same time. I've checked them out; they are all copyvios as well, and two of them are actually duplicates of each other. Now the deletion debate has closed, what - if anything - should I do about these? Eron 15:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
You closed the debate on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armenian Genocide and position of Turkey with speedy keep. Now the article is gone. Could you find out how (and if possible why) that happened? Thanks. Lambiam Talk 14:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I just came across Law of Australia and I have to say you did a fantastic job. KI 16:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
The nominator attempted to nominate other articles along with this one..."
Hmmm... I'd suggest that the close of this might have had less to do with voting and a bit more to do with WP:V. Are you open to discussing this a bit more? - brenneman {L} 06:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. I am new here and my entry has been nominated for deletion because of vanity. I reworked the entry as suggested, and am wondering what I do now?
Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. -- Cel es tianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Thebainer, I saw your comments about mediation on Adam's rfc page. It would be a great boost if you could persuade Adam to constructively comment on the content and drop his "robust" tactics". No one’s asking Adam to concede his beliefs, it’s just that we feel he should be more inclusive, respect others and share editorial control. A cup of tea would suit me fine! ;) -- Zleitzen 17:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I am presently coordinating a team of advocates re: my RfC for harassment by user:woggly. I welcome you to be a member. Simply read the RFC lodged against me by user:woggly and the RFC which I have filed against her. It's really simple stuff when all of her harassment and my (and others) various attempts to resolve any issues are in black and white. Please also view the talks pages where Woggly admits to harassment and infers that she will not cease. Thank you for your consideration and nice photo ;>. Best wishes, IsraelBeach 19:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for stepping up. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 06:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
In the past 24 hours there has been an escalation in the war of the words between user:Israelbeach and user:Woggly. Woggly who never apologized for her personal attacks against Israelbeach was never addressed or blocked for these attacks by the administrators. In fact, she has been attacking Israelbeach, whose identity is for all to see, from an anonymous position. Not very fair or ethical!
Israelbeach, in turn, revealed Woggly's identity, something he was wrong for doing. According to Wiki policy: "This sort of behavior is blockable on its own (for example, moving another user's User Talk page), but should be considered an aggravating factor for the purposes of the block. For example, behavior that would earn a 1 day ban might become a 1 week ban if the Administrator believes the behavior was for the purposes of harassment. The block should only be enforced after warning the user and these pleas go ignored."
Israelbeach was warned by user:jpgordon and according to the logs deleted all material within minutes. Israelbeach should not have been blocked according to Wiki policy as he never ignored any warnings by adm but reacted quickly to them.
Woggly is now rightfully worried about legal action that Israelbeach can take against her for stating, without substance, that he was "dangerous" and other accusations made in front of his local community and the world public. She now appears to be leaving Wikipedia on her own.
Solution: Both Israelbeach and Woggly are professional editors and should be encouraged to stay with the Wiki project. The block on Israelbeach should be removed immediately, as it only serves to increase conflict. Remember, after a first warning, Israelbeach on his own removed all personal data even though he thought he was correct due to that personal information regarding Woggly was posted by Woggly with a direct link to Wikipedia that anyone can find on a simple Google search.
Both Israelbeach and Woggly should be warned with no punitive action taken and instructed not to interact with one another on Wikipedia. These are two professionals with tremendous pride - do not expect either to aplogize at this point. We must encourage both users to stay, to avoid court action (with the documentation that Israelbeach has on these clear personal attacks, no judge would deny Woggly's guilt) and keep Wikipedia operating with less negative news coverage.
I do not blame Woggly or Israelbeach for their now wanting to resign from Wikipedia, I place the blame solely on the desk of the administrators who could have taken action on the personal attacks which started this conflict. Woggly and Israelbeach are both assets to Wikipedia, all action should be taken to keep them here. I will be posting message in how to resolve this matter this on other pages. Nancetlv 12:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I would expect that the managment of Wikipedia and its volunteer administrators would have enforced Wikipedia policy equaly for both sides. Wikipedia could have prevented the above lawsuit if it acted properly and swiftly. Maybe there is still time to avoid it.
I have also been a victim of personal attacks by Woggly (being named a "sockpuppet" without any evidence). If anyone here is willing to meet or speak with me - you are most welcome.
Some editors here are playing childish but very harmful games to other's personal and commercial reputations instead of focusing on the real mission of Wikipedia - creating a fine community service. Bluegrasstom 08:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
is on DRV. Kotepho 05:50, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not trying to start another fight, I'm just interested... what led you to the decision to keep this article? Kinitawowi 09:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
You've just protected two templates that we reached an agreement about a few minutes ago, so one of us needs to make an edit to add the agreed text to the pages. Please let me know if you have a problem with that; if not, I'll go ahead, or you may prefer to do it yourself. The agreed text of the third sentence (the one that was in dispute) is: "When editing this page, please ensure that your revision reflects consensus. When in doubt, discuss first on the talk page." See Template talk:Policy#Suggestions. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 05:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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The repair of the redirect damage at digital rights management was both prompt and effective. As an administrator who has not mastered the machiery behind the curtains, I thank you for your efforts. I'd also like to congratulate you on your user page; reminds me of cats at play somehow. Will your degree lead to a call to the bar? Best wishes with it. ww 03:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey there Thebainer. I created the article about the swimmer and noticed that you had put a redlink at John Davies to an Australian judge. Could you be referring to the same person? John Davies the swimmer won gold at the 1952 Helsinki Olympics for Australia, but became naturalized American and then was appointed to the US District Court and presided over the trial of police officers who bashed Rodney King. Or is John Davies the AUS judge another different Australian based judge? Regards. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 06:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
PS. Oh, I put the swimmer up for DYK because his "double-identity" I feel is interesting. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 06:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
very good article, thanks! + + Lar: t/ c 02:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Knew I should have used the word "official" instead of "legal"... thanks though. Fr e dd ie Against Userbox Deletion? 15:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. Primarily interested in commercial causes, and constitutional law, but open to all areas!
My question is - have you thought about adding a section in the cases infoboxes to transcripts of argument, especially now that HCA transcripts are generally available within a day or two of special leave applications? Sambo 07:53, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I have changed your two links from Michael Slater (soldier) to Michael Slater (army) because as a commissioned officer, Brig. Slater is not normally considered to be a soldier. and there were two other links as well (I made them). I'd use Michael Slater (brigadier) but he might get promoted to Michael Slater (general). If you can think of a better term, there are currently 4 links to change, and should possibly be one from Michael Slater too, especially if an article is written. -- Scott Davis Talk 05:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
File:Atlanticpuffin4.jpg | Hello bainer. Thank you for making an occasional trip to RfA to show your support and gracious comment at request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. Of course, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out and I look forward to again working with you in the future, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC) |
I realise that the link I added to www.hes-all-right.blogspot.com is a blog, but so is Boltwatch, the link above that. I came across Boltwatch because of the wikipedia article and believe that the other side of the debate should be shown. This site was just started today, but if the wikipedia article linked to it alongside the link to Boltwatch, I believe it would get more publicity, hits and comments and would run as the flipside to Boltwatch and this would be valuable to everyone.
However, I will try adding the link at a later time when the content of the site is more complete. —This unsigned comment was added by 220.237.172.187 ( talk • contribs) .
Thank you for following up on this OTRS request and releasing the block of this IP address. Best regards, Hall Monitor 17:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
<3 -- 72.160.73.242 12:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Wow, is there an echo in here...? pfctdayelise ( translate?) 13:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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Hello Thebainer : ) Thank- you for switching the article name and cleaning up the article. I thought about doing that myself. Much better for you to do it. Hope the unsourced information stays out. -- FloNight talk 03:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I think the dispute has died down now. I don't think anyone has any immediate plans to rename. :) Stevage 16:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Josh Wolf and earlier this week someone learned of my encounter with the grand jury and started an article about me under the name Joshua Wolf. The log reveals much about how people decided I wasn't notable after googling my name as Joshua; however, though I don't know whether I really am particularly notable, I'm certainly much more recognized as Josh Wolf than I am Joshua.
A few notable achievements: Was an early critical voice regarding Current TV's policies -- this resulted in TIME and Salon Coverage.
My footage has also been used in several legal cases on behalf of activists who were wrongly persecuted. Thanks for your consideration... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.137.146.120 ( talk • contribs) .
--Thanks for the response, I'll go ahead and follow up on that -- is there any way for me to read the article that had been up on wikipedia about me? I'm curious how it was written... thanks... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.137.146.120 ( talk • contribs) .
Cool, I think I did all that correctly... so far it seems I've not been deemed notable -- and that's totally cool, but at the same time, the fact that the entry for "Josh Wolf" is a re-direct for the soccer star "Josh Wolff" is somewhat frustrating given the fact that if people did feel that my history is worth creating a wikipedia entry, doing so would not be a simple operation... thanks again. Joshwolf 15:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Cricket subcategories for deletion here. This is just a courtesy note because you took part in an earlier inconclusive debate on the same subject, and may wish to comment on this one. If you're not interested, please forgive the intrusion. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I see you redirected the page Theni district, which I had nominated for deletion; thanks for cleaning that up. (On reflection, I probably could have checked that out myself. Live and learn.) I have a question about the four related pages I nominated at the same time. I've checked them out; they are all copyvios as well, and two of them are actually duplicates of each other. Now the deletion debate has closed, what - if anything - should I do about these? Eron 15:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
You closed the debate on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armenian Genocide and position of Turkey with speedy keep. Now the article is gone. Could you find out how (and if possible why) that happened? Thanks. Lambiam Talk 14:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I just came across Law of Australia and I have to say you did a fantastic job. KI 16:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
The nominator attempted to nominate other articles along with this one..."
Hmmm... I'd suggest that the close of this might have had less to do with voting and a bit more to do with WP:V. Are you open to discussing this a bit more? - brenneman {L} 06:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. I am new here and my entry has been nominated for deletion because of vanity. I reworked the entry as suggested, and am wondering what I do now?
Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. -- Cel es tianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Thebainer, I saw your comments about mediation on Adam's rfc page. It would be a great boost if you could persuade Adam to constructively comment on the content and drop his "robust" tactics". No one’s asking Adam to concede his beliefs, it’s just that we feel he should be more inclusive, respect others and share editorial control. A cup of tea would suit me fine! ;) -- Zleitzen 17:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I am presently coordinating a team of advocates re: my RfC for harassment by user:woggly. I welcome you to be a member. Simply read the RFC lodged against me by user:woggly and the RFC which I have filed against her. It's really simple stuff when all of her harassment and my (and others) various attempts to resolve any issues are in black and white. Please also view the talks pages where Woggly admits to harassment and infers that she will not cease. Thank you for your consideration and nice photo ;>. Best wishes, IsraelBeach 19:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for stepping up. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 06:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
In the past 24 hours there has been an escalation in the war of the words between user:Israelbeach and user:Woggly. Woggly who never apologized for her personal attacks against Israelbeach was never addressed or blocked for these attacks by the administrators. In fact, she has been attacking Israelbeach, whose identity is for all to see, from an anonymous position. Not very fair or ethical!
Israelbeach, in turn, revealed Woggly's identity, something he was wrong for doing. According to Wiki policy: "This sort of behavior is blockable on its own (for example, moving another user's User Talk page), but should be considered an aggravating factor for the purposes of the block. For example, behavior that would earn a 1 day ban might become a 1 week ban if the Administrator believes the behavior was for the purposes of harassment. The block should only be enforced after warning the user and these pleas go ignored."
Israelbeach was warned by user:jpgordon and according to the logs deleted all material within minutes. Israelbeach should not have been blocked according to Wiki policy as he never ignored any warnings by adm but reacted quickly to them.
Woggly is now rightfully worried about legal action that Israelbeach can take against her for stating, without substance, that he was "dangerous" and other accusations made in front of his local community and the world public. She now appears to be leaving Wikipedia on her own.
Solution: Both Israelbeach and Woggly are professional editors and should be encouraged to stay with the Wiki project. The block on Israelbeach should be removed immediately, as it only serves to increase conflict. Remember, after a first warning, Israelbeach on his own removed all personal data even though he thought he was correct due to that personal information regarding Woggly was posted by Woggly with a direct link to Wikipedia that anyone can find on a simple Google search.
Both Israelbeach and Woggly should be warned with no punitive action taken and instructed not to interact with one another on Wikipedia. These are two professionals with tremendous pride - do not expect either to aplogize at this point. We must encourage both users to stay, to avoid court action (with the documentation that Israelbeach has on these clear personal attacks, no judge would deny Woggly's guilt) and keep Wikipedia operating with less negative news coverage.
I do not blame Woggly or Israelbeach for their now wanting to resign from Wikipedia, I place the blame solely on the desk of the administrators who could have taken action on the personal attacks which started this conflict. Woggly and Israelbeach are both assets to Wikipedia, all action should be taken to keep them here. I will be posting message in how to resolve this matter this on other pages. Nancetlv 12:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I would expect that the managment of Wikipedia and its volunteer administrators would have enforced Wikipedia policy equaly for both sides. Wikipedia could have prevented the above lawsuit if it acted properly and swiftly. Maybe there is still time to avoid it.
I have also been a victim of personal attacks by Woggly (being named a "sockpuppet" without any evidence). If anyone here is willing to meet or speak with me - you are most welcome.
Some editors here are playing childish but very harmful games to other's personal and commercial reputations instead of focusing on the real mission of Wikipedia - creating a fine community service. Bluegrasstom 08:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
is on DRV. Kotepho 05:50, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not trying to start another fight, I'm just interested... what led you to the decision to keep this article? Kinitawowi 09:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
You've just protected two templates that we reached an agreement about a few minutes ago, so one of us needs to make an edit to add the agreed text to the pages. Please let me know if you have a problem with that; if not, I'll go ahead, or you may prefer to do it yourself. The agreed text of the third sentence (the one that was in dispute) is: "When editing this page, please ensure that your revision reflects consensus. When in doubt, discuss first on the talk page." See Template talk:Policy#Suggestions. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 05:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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The repair of the redirect damage at digital rights management was both prompt and effective. As an administrator who has not mastered the machiery behind the curtains, I thank you for your efforts. I'd also like to congratulate you on your user page; reminds me of cats at play somehow. Will your degree lead to a call to the bar? Best wishes with it. ww 03:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey there Thebainer. I created the article about the swimmer and noticed that you had put a redlink at John Davies to an Australian judge. Could you be referring to the same person? John Davies the swimmer won gold at the 1952 Helsinki Olympics for Australia, but became naturalized American and then was appointed to the US District Court and presided over the trial of police officers who bashed Rodney King. Or is John Davies the AUS judge another different Australian based judge? Regards. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 06:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
PS. Oh, I put the swimmer up for DYK because his "double-identity" I feel is interesting. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 06:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
very good article, thanks! + + Lar: t/ c 02:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Knew I should have used the word "official" instead of "legal"... thanks though. Fr e dd ie Against Userbox Deletion? 15:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. Primarily interested in commercial causes, and constitutional law, but open to all areas!
My question is - have you thought about adding a section in the cases infoboxes to transcripts of argument, especially now that HCA transcripts are generally available within a day or two of special leave applications? Sambo 07:53, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I have changed your two links from Michael Slater (soldier) to Michael Slater (army) because as a commissioned officer, Brig. Slater is not normally considered to be a soldier. and there were two other links as well (I made them). I'd use Michael Slater (brigadier) but he might get promoted to Michael Slater (general). If you can think of a better term, there are currently 4 links to change, and should possibly be one from Michael Slater too, especially if an article is written. -- Scott Davis Talk 05:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
File:Atlanticpuffin4.jpg | Hello bainer. Thank you for making an occasional trip to RfA to show your support and gracious comment at request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. Of course, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out and I look forward to again working with you in the future, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC) |