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Hey, thanks for your contrib to the North Omaha article. The article hasn't garnered that much editorializing, and I know it needs checked by someone who either knows the facts or knows how to find them. Thanks. - Freechild 02:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Recent add'tns include Technical High School (Omaha, Nebraska), Native Omaha Days and St. John's African Methodist Episcopal Church. Any additional info on either would be great. Thanks Smmurphy. - Freechild 17:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the message and sorry about the delay in replying. Here is the text of the article, which was deleted because of notability concerns. If you wish to challenge the speedy deletion please let me know.
{{Mergeto|Omaha Police Department|date=September 2006}} '''Tariq Al-Amin''' is an 25 year police veteran in the [[Omaha Police Department]] in [[Omaha, Nebraska|Omaha]], [[Nebraska]]. He is president of Nebraskans for Justice. He is controversial for his outspoken views on race relations in Omaha. He helped get actor [[Danny Glover]] involved in the [[Rice/Poindexter Case]], an issue involving two former Black Panther Party members in jail for killing Omaha Police officer Larry Minard. ==Rucker Case== On September 11, 2003 30 year old Officer [[Jason Tye Pratt]] pulled a vehicle over at 10:30 p.m. for speeding and erratic driving. When 21 year old Albert Rucker pulled over, he got out of his vehicle and fled the scene. Pratt pursued Rucker on foot to an open field, where Rucker shot him in the head at close range with a 45 caliber handgun. Rucker then engaged backup officers in a shootout after which he was wounded when police returned fire. Both men died soon after. At a memorial service for Albert Rucker, Bishop William Barlowe offered Pratt's family a check for $100 to add to the Pratt Family Assistance Fund in the name of Rucker's children. During the memorial service Rucker, Barlowe said, "We have two sets of kids who will be aligned forever because of this incident." Omaha Police Officer Tariq Al-Amin, while hosting the [[cable access television]] show Protecting the Village (on his off duty time), angrily reacted, stating "This would be my gift to the Rucker children," while brandishing a straight razor. "When you get old enough, come get it and cut Barlowe's throat for doing something like that in your name." Pratt had a reputation for being "an aggressive officer," and some in the black Omaha community felt that Barlowe's actions were inflamitory. [http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:uFqdsvpI5bAJ:www.blackomahaonline.com/Editorials/barlowe.asp+%22Tariq+Al-Amin%22+omaha&hl=en] After the program was reviewed by Police Chief Thomas Warren, he terminated Al-Amin with the justification that Al-Amin threatened Barlowe. Al-Amin, citing his [[First Amendment]] rights appealed to the City Personnel Board, and with backing and support of the Omaha Chapter of the [[NAACP]], the [[Coalition Against Injustice]], [[Black Men United]], and [[Rev. Al Sharpton]]'s [[National Action Network]]. Al-Amin was reinstated by the personnel board on February 26, 2004. Al-Amin was given the maximum suspension without pay allowed by the contract with the police union. He also was required to publicly apologize before being allowed to return to work. ==Reference== http://www.theomahachannel.com/news/2876153/detail.html -- kingboyk 09:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Smmurphy, is there a certain amount of this article or of this that should be located somewhere in the North Omaha diaspora of WP articles? I am not hesitant to address these situations for what they really are... but would like some local guidance about that. - Freechild 13:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
You voted to "deep" the List of Chinese Americans article. Usedup 04:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
You should probably consider adding the Omaha busing info, if relevant, to Civil Rights Movement in Omaha, Nebraska. - Freechild 06:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hey, thanks for putting up the Vavrina article. Excellent people with spectacularly notable works are the soul of WP - not to mention North O. Its so great to see this effort grow out... - Freechild 16:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought you might, at the least, add Tariq to the new... Timeline of Racial Tension in Omaha, Nebraska. - Freechild 18:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Sm - Sorry for the delay in responding, I've been out of town. I guess if I had to choose I would choose the Allais paradox. I think it's a little more central, as Ellsberg is usually seen to illustrate the failure of one type of response to Allais. I'm mostly an outside observer of the individual choice literature, so my opinion shouldn't count for much :) --best, kevin kzollman][ talk 00:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Sm,
You really helped me to think about what to do with this article. You're right that simply because the concept is out there and notable there is room for an article on the subject. If you don't mind, I'd like to discuss a little bit of how the article might look right here rather than get into a fight elsewhere before I'm sure which way to go. I'd like your thoughts, if you don't mind. (I'm still not sure I want to get into this without some assurance that I'm not going to be overwhelmed by people pushing a point.)
I'm now thinking that the top section, to be NPOV, should say something like "Allegations that the United States has conducted "state terrorism" have been made by ... This is disputed by .... Many of the governments, groups and people making the allegations have been considered unreliable by ... and governments such as Cuba that have made the allegations have themselves been accused of lying and terrorizing their own people....
From there, the article could go on to report on the most prominent allegations made, with sourcing from all sides and balance. I think we'd have to have a good working definition on "state terrorism" early on to avoid constant problems later. The word "terrorism" may be problematic because to my mind it means sowing fear in a populace rather than just committing atrocities on it, and I'm not sure if that's really the allegation made, but the definition really comes from those who use the word.
If you look down the first dozen or so of the footnotes (if I remember rightly) you find Granma, the Cuban propaganda rag, something called the Workers World Newsletter (or something like that) and eventually a few news articles that report on what some Cuban or other said. All of this is fine in context.
Sm, this is a lot of work. I think we need some support before we go in. As long as people agree to pay some attention and be fair, I'd be happy to go in with a contingent from The Michael Moore Fan Club and take my chances. But if there's no pledge from anyone to try to be fair and to pay attention, we're up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle and all the work we'd do would be for nothing. Your thoughts? And can we keep the discussion on this talk page or some other fixed spot? I'll put this on my watch list and wait to hear from you. Noroton 16:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions regarding my editing practice. This is a learning process, isn't it? I look forward to any advice you may share with me as I continue editing in the future. - Freechild 14:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I see you started Category:Landmarks in Omaha, Nebraska. You might consider working from this list to fill that cat in. Good luck with that. - Freechild 22:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Of course it is social, but its a citations thing. No one would argue that these are all places in Omaha, and mostly old places in Omaha. Under the title landmark, however, there is a greater need for citations. For instance, is the Hi tree a landmark [2] [3]? Was it before it was added to the historic register of trees? If it is a landmark, then do we need to list all of the heritage trees from all years? I'm thinking that heritage trees might someday get their own subarticle in a list of places in Omaha, as would Parks, Hospitals and whatever else isn't on the list of official landmarks. In a case where an article has a subarticle, the link at the top or a link in the lead is probably best. I like how you have it now. Smmurphy( Talk) 19:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Sounds right to me. I brought this up as a question at WP:NAME to be sure about policy, though. Smmurphy( Talk) 20:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for bringing that fork to my attention. best regards, Jim Butler( talk) 06:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but I did not appreciate your slightly clumsy rewrite of this article - after all, why remove a useful reference, however debatable the political issues involved, if the annihilators cry out for removal of the article because they feel that too few references point to the subject's non-existence? So do not feel offended if I restored my version, until further notice = removal of the AfD threat and better copy, this should remain. Or do you want to contribute to a useful article's disappearance? After all, there is a political issue involved with many people from the Balcans, so there is no means of avoiding them. As far as one can trust one's own impressions, Zlatko Krasni is no doubt a very amiable and totally unaggressive person; this has, of course, influenced my assessment of his work. I met him twice and took a close look, as you may imagine under the circumstances. To my mind, he rates an entry to wikipedia because he is a good poet and a good person from a very complicated part of the world indeed. ( Klaus rabe 00:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC))
Hey, I was just looking at the articles linking to Fort Omaha and came across your article-in-progress. Go! That is a great topic, and one that can/should be expanded in a lot of ways. I hope you bring it live soon, there's some things I want to add to it right away. Interestingly though, in my own research I did note that the troops at the Fort were noted for being called into quell the 1919 riots; I read that was the 1st time in US history the US military were used as a police force on US soil. Then, when reading about the 60s riots I noticed that the Nat'l Guard was called in on at least 3 separate occasions; where are those troops based out of? Hopefully they aren't at Fort Omaha, too, right? I mean, what better way to impose segregation than to have a resident military force in the neighborhood... But what a great note to make in your Crime in Omaha article. Looking forward to reading and sharing. Oh, and some of those crime citations are here. - Freechild 06:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Just because I won't let the prospect of a great article go... I want to make sure you know about the new articles I've created on Tom Dennison, Sporting District and Little Italy. They all have content that could contribute to a sensationalized version of Crime in Omaha that I'd love to see... – Freechild ( BoomCha) 22:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
In other, unrelated topics, I have cleaned up two articles extensively that I would request your input on: Racial Tension in Omaha, Nebraska and Civil Rights Movement in Omaha, Nebraska. I am working to clean the latter up enough to be considered for featured article, so any input you can provide would be sincerely appreciated. - Freechild 16:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Smmurphy, I do not entirely feel qualified to answer your question. You will see on my talk page that Lupo ( talk · contribs) has more adequately answered it. I apologise I could not be of more help, and I hope Lupo's advice helps out. If you need any more advice, I'm sure Lupo would offer it on my, your, or his or her talk page. -- Iamunknown 08:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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I just looked, and it's mostly the same; your version appears to be a little longer, but is otherwise word-for-word in most places. I think the chief problem is that it reads like an essay ("concluding remarks", numbered lists, arguments, ect), and it still appears to have been copied from somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong, though). -- InShaneee 13:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Oops, I dumped the text of Cherokee in one of my sandboxes, where fair use images are not allowed. Thankfully a bot fixed it, as you can see. Smmurphy( Talk) 00:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
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Please note in my talk page my reply to you regarding vandalism of the Steve Biko entry. I don't vandalize pages, and I despise vandals. I do my best to make minor edits to pages to clean them up when I find they either have simple spelling/grammar errors and try to prevent vandalism when I run across it. I don't know where the misunderstanding of vandalism comes from as you can see in the diffs that it was I who cleaned up the vandalism. I explain a little more on my talk page User:Symbioid User talk:Symbioid
EDIT: Thanks for the reply. Sorry I came off so harshly. I appreciate your attempts at preventing vandalism. I just didn't want to be unjustly accused. Once again, thanks.
Hi Smmurphy. Could you please have a look at the link and see if you can help? Some articles are needing more references in order to get released. You can leave your comments at the page as well. Thanks in advance. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 17:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Hiya - No worries: Highwater squirted a lot of ink trying to defend his chosen identity! By the way, Bruchac is already in the list, but I think it's somehow got out of alphabetical order so will try to fix that in the next day or two. All best, and thanks for some great edits to many of my watchlisted articles over the past week or so! Vizjim 17:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that up - I don't know if I would have ever found it. Its great, too, because I have some other slavery-related finds that need to go there. Thanks- oh, and its good to hear from you again. - Freechild 20:11, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Thought you might know more about this than me, or at least a more "well-rounded" perspective. - Freechild 02:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for supporting my request for adminship and for your confidence in my abilities. The RfA was successful and I am now an admin. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Cheers, Black Falcon ( Talk) 07:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Dear Smmurphy, first, allow me to thank you warmly for your most kind words; tho I feel undeserving, since everyone seems more open to dialog at this point, and I don't think it's just because I involved myself at the discussion :) Seriously tho, I really appreciate you took the time to express your position, and did so in a patient, comprehensive and solid way. I'm advancing on a draft for a solution, and since you'll be away these days, I'll explain the basic outlines to you by mail. I believe you'll be returning in time to comment on them if you're back by Tuesday (you know these things must be done calmly, and leaving discussion open for a few days to build consensus), but I'd like to get your input on my ideas before you leave. Again, thank you for your kind words, and don't forget to check your mail ;) Love, Phaedriel - 03:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'll be leaving Tuesday midday (US EST), but I'll hopefully have some access again starting Friday (and maybe earlier), and back to normal next Monday. Sometimes 60 hours is a lot of wikipedia time, and sometimes it isn't much. Smmurphy( Talk) 02:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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I would like to notify you about this merger proposal regarding the expected utility hypothesis. Expert opinions welcome. -- B. Wolterding 11:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Smmurphy, dear, it's great to see you again! :) The last days have been kinda rough on me, and I have been unable to do much work around; hopefully things will settle down again soon and I'll be able to resume the work on the points of our mutual interests. I've been planning to email you for a couple of days, and in fact, I saved a draft in the middle of it; so please, do check your mail tomorrow, please?
As for the other matters you comment to me, rest assured I'll look into them as soon as my human capacities permit. I've read the discussion at the
WP:IPNA Talk page, and it looks very interesting to me. Please, give me a few hours, and I'll get back to you. Thank you, and again, it's great to talk you :) Love,
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Thank your for the welcome, but something isn't right. I changed the page and the previous user keeps changing it claiming that my changes and edits are unsourced and not cited. I change it again and this person keeps editing removing everything. Then I look at my informantion and this person put "
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" in my information and in the talk section of my page. He's deleted damm near all the edits made including all the information I put on the page that's recent and the history references. I don't know what a "sock puppet" is or who "JohnC1" is, but all of this stuff he's putting on the page and what he's doing to my page.....isn't that harassment?
I just removed another of your reverts which placed defamatory and uncited materials into Cherokee Freedmen Controversy. WP:COI may apply to you since you seem to edit African American related articles and Freedmen controversies. Your dishonest edit summary was over the top. Jeffrey Vernon Merkey 02:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
For your help and understanding it is because I care about the integrity of wikipedia that I was worked up over the deletion tag of the article.
and as you can see, i have started to create the pages, but i am hitting snags. the first one i looked up had info, but the others either had no website [1] [2], or there had been a page made and then it was deleted [3], so i am having a hard time. =). But i will relink if you wish. Best Wishes, Ono 19:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you reverted an anonymous user's edit to Robert Mugabe. In the edit summary you said "rvv." While I can understand why one would assume his edit had been vandalism, it was actually correct. The source used in the article is wrong. I went ahead and reverted. Perspicacite 03:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
yes i have been hoping someone can help me cite my article sources...everything written down as a source has a specific reference in the article itself -- Dylan Davies 22:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
This is a bit off-topic for that page so I'm replying here. Yep I've read up on the controversy and know about that sort of wishful thinking (and/or cashing in, unfortunately) and I don't feel I'm qualified to get into the dispute itself (I'm 100% Anglo), but if someone is going to dispute some else's Native ancestry, they still have to back it up with citations per Wikipedia policy. The issue the editor I was speaking of has is with Rita Coolidge and Douglas Blue Feather, and I have no problem with someone debunking their ancestry if they can back it up with facts (or at least communicate with the other editors). Katr67 19:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
i am beginnning to work on these sources and incorporating them into my article, but please give me time thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiaddict8962 ( talk • contribs) 02:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
If you didn't notice, the article doesn't contain a single reference to human trafficking today, which is clearly part of, well, " Slavery in the United States". I know you've worked extensively on this article, so please awareness.
If you didn't notice, the article doesn't contain a single reference to human trafficking today, which is clearly part of, well, " Slavery in the United States". I know you've worked extensively on this article, so please awareness. 71.251.77.196 00:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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Hey, thanks for your contrib to the North Omaha article. The article hasn't garnered that much editorializing, and I know it needs checked by someone who either knows the facts or knows how to find them. Thanks. - Freechild 02:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Recent add'tns include Technical High School (Omaha, Nebraska), Native Omaha Days and St. John's African Methodist Episcopal Church. Any additional info on either would be great. Thanks Smmurphy. - Freechild 17:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the message and sorry about the delay in replying. Here is the text of the article, which was deleted because of notability concerns. If you wish to challenge the speedy deletion please let me know.
{{Mergeto|Omaha Police Department|date=September 2006}} '''Tariq Al-Amin''' is an 25 year police veteran in the [[Omaha Police Department]] in [[Omaha, Nebraska|Omaha]], [[Nebraska]]. He is president of Nebraskans for Justice. He is controversial for his outspoken views on race relations in Omaha. He helped get actor [[Danny Glover]] involved in the [[Rice/Poindexter Case]], an issue involving two former Black Panther Party members in jail for killing Omaha Police officer Larry Minard. ==Rucker Case== On September 11, 2003 30 year old Officer [[Jason Tye Pratt]] pulled a vehicle over at 10:30 p.m. for speeding and erratic driving. When 21 year old Albert Rucker pulled over, he got out of his vehicle and fled the scene. Pratt pursued Rucker on foot to an open field, where Rucker shot him in the head at close range with a 45 caliber handgun. Rucker then engaged backup officers in a shootout after which he was wounded when police returned fire. Both men died soon after. At a memorial service for Albert Rucker, Bishop William Barlowe offered Pratt's family a check for $100 to add to the Pratt Family Assistance Fund in the name of Rucker's children. During the memorial service Rucker, Barlowe said, "We have two sets of kids who will be aligned forever because of this incident." Omaha Police Officer Tariq Al-Amin, while hosting the [[cable access television]] show Protecting the Village (on his off duty time), angrily reacted, stating "This would be my gift to the Rucker children," while brandishing a straight razor. "When you get old enough, come get it and cut Barlowe's throat for doing something like that in your name." Pratt had a reputation for being "an aggressive officer," and some in the black Omaha community felt that Barlowe's actions were inflamitory. [http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:uFqdsvpI5bAJ:www.blackomahaonline.com/Editorials/barlowe.asp+%22Tariq+Al-Amin%22+omaha&hl=en] After the program was reviewed by Police Chief Thomas Warren, he terminated Al-Amin with the justification that Al-Amin threatened Barlowe. Al-Amin, citing his [[First Amendment]] rights appealed to the City Personnel Board, and with backing and support of the Omaha Chapter of the [[NAACP]], the [[Coalition Against Injustice]], [[Black Men United]], and [[Rev. Al Sharpton]]'s [[National Action Network]]. Al-Amin was reinstated by the personnel board on February 26, 2004. Al-Amin was given the maximum suspension without pay allowed by the contract with the police union. He also was required to publicly apologize before being allowed to return to work. ==Reference== http://www.theomahachannel.com/news/2876153/detail.html -- kingboyk 09:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Smmurphy, is there a certain amount of this article or of this that should be located somewhere in the North Omaha diaspora of WP articles? I am not hesitant to address these situations for what they really are... but would like some local guidance about that. - Freechild 13:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
You voted to "deep" the List of Chinese Americans article. Usedup 04:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
You should probably consider adding the Omaha busing info, if relevant, to Civil Rights Movement in Omaha, Nebraska. - Freechild 06:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hey, thanks for putting up the Vavrina article. Excellent people with spectacularly notable works are the soul of WP - not to mention North O. Its so great to see this effort grow out... - Freechild 16:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought you might, at the least, add Tariq to the new... Timeline of Racial Tension in Omaha, Nebraska. - Freechild 18:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Sm - Sorry for the delay in responding, I've been out of town. I guess if I had to choose I would choose the Allais paradox. I think it's a little more central, as Ellsberg is usually seen to illustrate the failure of one type of response to Allais. I'm mostly an outside observer of the individual choice literature, so my opinion shouldn't count for much :) --best, kevin kzollman][ talk 00:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Sm,
You really helped me to think about what to do with this article. You're right that simply because the concept is out there and notable there is room for an article on the subject. If you don't mind, I'd like to discuss a little bit of how the article might look right here rather than get into a fight elsewhere before I'm sure which way to go. I'd like your thoughts, if you don't mind. (I'm still not sure I want to get into this without some assurance that I'm not going to be overwhelmed by people pushing a point.)
I'm now thinking that the top section, to be NPOV, should say something like "Allegations that the United States has conducted "state terrorism" have been made by ... This is disputed by .... Many of the governments, groups and people making the allegations have been considered unreliable by ... and governments such as Cuba that have made the allegations have themselves been accused of lying and terrorizing their own people....
From there, the article could go on to report on the most prominent allegations made, with sourcing from all sides and balance. I think we'd have to have a good working definition on "state terrorism" early on to avoid constant problems later. The word "terrorism" may be problematic because to my mind it means sowing fear in a populace rather than just committing atrocities on it, and I'm not sure if that's really the allegation made, but the definition really comes from those who use the word.
If you look down the first dozen or so of the footnotes (if I remember rightly) you find Granma, the Cuban propaganda rag, something called the Workers World Newsletter (or something like that) and eventually a few news articles that report on what some Cuban or other said. All of this is fine in context.
Sm, this is a lot of work. I think we need some support before we go in. As long as people agree to pay some attention and be fair, I'd be happy to go in with a contingent from The Michael Moore Fan Club and take my chances. But if there's no pledge from anyone to try to be fair and to pay attention, we're up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle and all the work we'd do would be for nothing. Your thoughts? And can we keep the discussion on this talk page or some other fixed spot? I'll put this on my watch list and wait to hear from you. Noroton 16:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions regarding my editing practice. This is a learning process, isn't it? I look forward to any advice you may share with me as I continue editing in the future. - Freechild 14:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I see you started Category:Landmarks in Omaha, Nebraska. You might consider working from this list to fill that cat in. Good luck with that. - Freechild 22:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Of course it is social, but its a citations thing. No one would argue that these are all places in Omaha, and mostly old places in Omaha. Under the title landmark, however, there is a greater need for citations. For instance, is the Hi tree a landmark [2] [3]? Was it before it was added to the historic register of trees? If it is a landmark, then do we need to list all of the heritage trees from all years? I'm thinking that heritage trees might someday get their own subarticle in a list of places in Omaha, as would Parks, Hospitals and whatever else isn't on the list of official landmarks. In a case where an article has a subarticle, the link at the top or a link in the lead is probably best. I like how you have it now. Smmurphy( Talk) 19:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Sounds right to me. I brought this up as a question at WP:NAME to be sure about policy, though. Smmurphy( Talk) 20:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for bringing that fork to my attention. best regards, Jim Butler( talk) 06:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but I did not appreciate your slightly clumsy rewrite of this article - after all, why remove a useful reference, however debatable the political issues involved, if the annihilators cry out for removal of the article because they feel that too few references point to the subject's non-existence? So do not feel offended if I restored my version, until further notice = removal of the AfD threat and better copy, this should remain. Or do you want to contribute to a useful article's disappearance? After all, there is a political issue involved with many people from the Balcans, so there is no means of avoiding them. As far as one can trust one's own impressions, Zlatko Krasni is no doubt a very amiable and totally unaggressive person; this has, of course, influenced my assessment of his work. I met him twice and took a close look, as you may imagine under the circumstances. To my mind, he rates an entry to wikipedia because he is a good poet and a good person from a very complicated part of the world indeed. ( Klaus rabe 00:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC))
Hey, I was just looking at the articles linking to Fort Omaha and came across your article-in-progress. Go! That is a great topic, and one that can/should be expanded in a lot of ways. I hope you bring it live soon, there's some things I want to add to it right away. Interestingly though, in my own research I did note that the troops at the Fort were noted for being called into quell the 1919 riots; I read that was the 1st time in US history the US military were used as a police force on US soil. Then, when reading about the 60s riots I noticed that the Nat'l Guard was called in on at least 3 separate occasions; where are those troops based out of? Hopefully they aren't at Fort Omaha, too, right? I mean, what better way to impose segregation than to have a resident military force in the neighborhood... But what a great note to make in your Crime in Omaha article. Looking forward to reading and sharing. Oh, and some of those crime citations are here. - Freechild 06:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Just because I won't let the prospect of a great article go... I want to make sure you know about the new articles I've created on Tom Dennison, Sporting District and Little Italy. They all have content that could contribute to a sensationalized version of Crime in Omaha that I'd love to see... – Freechild ( BoomCha) 22:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
In other, unrelated topics, I have cleaned up two articles extensively that I would request your input on: Racial Tension in Omaha, Nebraska and Civil Rights Movement in Omaha, Nebraska. I am working to clean the latter up enough to be considered for featured article, so any input you can provide would be sincerely appreciated. - Freechild 16:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Smmurphy, I do not entirely feel qualified to answer your question. You will see on my talk page that Lupo ( talk · contribs) has more adequately answered it. I apologise I could not be of more help, and I hope Lupo's advice helps out. If you need any more advice, I'm sure Lupo would offer it on my, your, or his or her talk page. -- Iamunknown 08:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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I just looked, and it's mostly the same; your version appears to be a little longer, but is otherwise word-for-word in most places. I think the chief problem is that it reads like an essay ("concluding remarks", numbered lists, arguments, ect), and it still appears to have been copied from somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong, though). -- InShaneee 13:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Oops, I dumped the text of Cherokee in one of my sandboxes, where fair use images are not allowed. Thankfully a bot fixed it, as you can see. Smmurphy( Talk) 00:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
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Please note in my talk page my reply to you regarding vandalism of the Steve Biko entry. I don't vandalize pages, and I despise vandals. I do my best to make minor edits to pages to clean them up when I find they either have simple spelling/grammar errors and try to prevent vandalism when I run across it. I don't know where the misunderstanding of vandalism comes from as you can see in the diffs that it was I who cleaned up the vandalism. I explain a little more on my talk page User:Symbioid User talk:Symbioid
EDIT: Thanks for the reply. Sorry I came off so harshly. I appreciate your attempts at preventing vandalism. I just didn't want to be unjustly accused. Once again, thanks.
Hi Smmurphy. Could you please have a look at the link and see if you can help? Some articles are needing more references in order to get released. You can leave your comments at the page as well. Thanks in advance. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 17:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Hiya - No worries: Highwater squirted a lot of ink trying to defend his chosen identity! By the way, Bruchac is already in the list, but I think it's somehow got out of alphabetical order so will try to fix that in the next day or two. All best, and thanks for some great edits to many of my watchlisted articles over the past week or so! Vizjim 17:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that up - I don't know if I would have ever found it. Its great, too, because I have some other slavery-related finds that need to go there. Thanks- oh, and its good to hear from you again. - Freechild 20:11, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Thought you might know more about this than me, or at least a more "well-rounded" perspective. - Freechild 02:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for supporting my request for adminship and for your confidence in my abilities. The RfA was successful and I am now an admin. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Cheers, Black Falcon ( Talk) 07:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Dear Smmurphy, first, allow me to thank you warmly for your most kind words; tho I feel undeserving, since everyone seems more open to dialog at this point, and I don't think it's just because I involved myself at the discussion :) Seriously tho, I really appreciate you took the time to express your position, and did so in a patient, comprehensive and solid way. I'm advancing on a draft for a solution, and since you'll be away these days, I'll explain the basic outlines to you by mail. I believe you'll be returning in time to comment on them if you're back by Tuesday (you know these things must be done calmly, and leaving discussion open for a few days to build consensus), but I'd like to get your input on my ideas before you leave. Again, thank you for your kind words, and don't forget to check your mail ;) Love, Phaedriel - 03:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'll be leaving Tuesday midday (US EST), but I'll hopefully have some access again starting Friday (and maybe earlier), and back to normal next Monday. Sometimes 60 hours is a lot of wikipedia time, and sometimes it isn't much. Smmurphy( Talk) 02:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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I would like to notify you about this merger proposal regarding the expected utility hypothesis. Expert opinions welcome. -- B. Wolterding 11:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Smmurphy, dear, it's great to see you again! :) The last days have been kinda rough on me, and I have been unable to do much work around; hopefully things will settle down again soon and I'll be able to resume the work on the points of our mutual interests. I've been planning to email you for a couple of days, and in fact, I saved a draft in the middle of it; so please, do check your mail tomorrow, please?
As for the other matters you comment to me, rest assured I'll look into them as soon as my human capacities permit. I've read the discussion at the
WP:IPNA Talk page, and it looks very interesting to me. Please, give me a few hours, and I'll get back to you. Thank you, and again, it's great to talk you :) Love,
Phaedriel - 21:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank your for the welcome, but something isn't right. I changed the page and the previous user keeps changing it claiming that my changes and edits are unsourced and not cited. I change it again and this person keeps editing removing everything. Then I look at my informantion and this person put "
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" in my information and in the talk section of my page. He's deleted damm near all the edits made including all the information I put on the page that's recent and the history references. I don't know what a "sock puppet" is or who "JohnC1" is, but all of this stuff he's putting on the page and what he's doing to my page.....isn't that harassment?
I just removed another of your reverts which placed defamatory and uncited materials into Cherokee Freedmen Controversy. WP:COI may apply to you since you seem to edit African American related articles and Freedmen controversies. Your dishonest edit summary was over the top. Jeffrey Vernon Merkey 02:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
For your help and understanding it is because I care about the integrity of wikipedia that I was worked up over the deletion tag of the article.
and as you can see, i have started to create the pages, but i am hitting snags. the first one i looked up had info, but the others either had no website [1] [2], or there had been a page made and then it was deleted [3], so i am having a hard time. =). But i will relink if you wish. Best Wishes, Ono 19:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you reverted an anonymous user's edit to Robert Mugabe. In the edit summary you said "rvv." While I can understand why one would assume his edit had been vandalism, it was actually correct. The source used in the article is wrong. I went ahead and reverted. Perspicacite 03:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
yes i have been hoping someone can help me cite my article sources...everything written down as a source has a specific reference in the article itself -- Dylan Davies 22:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
This is a bit off-topic for that page so I'm replying here. Yep I've read up on the controversy and know about that sort of wishful thinking (and/or cashing in, unfortunately) and I don't feel I'm qualified to get into the dispute itself (I'm 100% Anglo), but if someone is going to dispute some else's Native ancestry, they still have to back it up with citations per Wikipedia policy. The issue the editor I was speaking of has is with Rita Coolidge and Douglas Blue Feather, and I have no problem with someone debunking their ancestry if they can back it up with facts (or at least communicate with the other editors). Katr67 19:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
i am beginnning to work on these sources and incorporating them into my article, but please give me time thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiaddict8962 ( talk • contribs) 02:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
If you didn't notice, the article doesn't contain a single reference to human trafficking today, which is clearly part of, well, " Slavery in the United States". I know you've worked extensively on this article, so please awareness.
If you didn't notice, the article doesn't contain a single reference to human trafficking today, which is clearly part of, well, " Slavery in the United States". I know you've worked extensively on this article, so please awareness. 71.251.77.196 00:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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What it needs, is one or two references to articles about him. First add them, then remove the tag. DGG ( talk) 04:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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