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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. As a member of the Wikipedia community, I would like to remind you of Wikipedia's neutral-point-of-view policy for editors, which you appear to have violated at The Secret Six. In the meantime, please be bold and continue contributing to Wikipedia. Thank you! RandyWang ( raves/ rants) 22:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I've added the "{{ prod}}" template to the article Doc Holliday's Saloon, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Doc Holliday's Saloon. You may remove the {{ dated prod}} template, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. shotwell 02:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, this is Skymasterson. I have no strong opinion one way or the other about the deletion of my little " Doc Holliday's Saloon" article.
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Realkyhick 06:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
PLease note all the free images located in the commons at :
its a sin not to even use one image of the film ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 16:51, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Noting your concerns at Talk:The Alaskans, I've added a bit more to the article. Clearly, though, it needs to grow up. If you find yourself with spare time, perhaps you could return some day after having done a fresh search for new info. CzechOut 07:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for not responding earlier. I was lost for a bit over at The Persuaders! and in trying to bring some connective thread to William T. Orr shows. Yeah, that Dakatoas cancellation is crazy. I really wonder if it's not unique for being axed, essentially, by viewers. I, at least, tend to think of the 60s as the dawn of "viewer activism" used to save shows. It's surprising to learn of a show where the polar opposite occurred. Can you, even anecdotally, think of another example of a show being killed by its viewers? CzechOut 04:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding contemporary perceptions of Orr, yeah, I'd gathered Garner wasn't happy with him. When Garner took WB to court, he was, for all intents and purposes, taking Orr to court. But for some reason I kinda stopped writing the main body of the article before I hopped over to other things. Maybe you can find juicy bits from those interviews and start a new section over at the main Bill Orr article? CzechOut 04:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I think you'll probably enjoy this little snippet from Later with Bob Costas. It appears to be all about Rockford, until he gets going. Then there's this whole thing about the court battles he's been in and why. Yeah, I know exactly nothing about Sunset except for the theme song and some production details. To be honest, I'm not really that crazy for the straight crime drama, except in small doses. I tend to find them very "samey" after a while. So, for that reason, I generally feel ya when you say "not much television overseen by Webb was ever worth watching"—except that I have a soft spot for Emergency!, which was actually a socially conscious show. And you can't really argue with fire-fighters, paramedics, and ER doctors as role models. Plus, how can a show starring a guy named RANDOLPH MANTOOTH really be bad?
As for the gulg between Orr and Warners at the end, it may have had something to do with his divorce from Joy Page. That happened in 1970, but one imagines the rumblings of discontent may have been present in the mid 60s. On the other hand, he could have gone what his son said and simply "walked away from the industry". It might've been the walking away which precipitated the breakup, not the other way around. However it went down, it's damned interesting that a guy who, from the studio's point of view, was doing a stellar job would've just disappeared. It's like Seinfeld or Andy Griffith just leaving when they were number 1. Or maybe it's that people like Roy Huggins were leaving Warners in the mid-60s and he just didn't want to rebuild the whole organization. CzechOut 07:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments on Girl! Don't think I'm with you on Girl as even technically a tele-movie, though: Talk:Girl on the Run. CzechOut 05:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
These are your edits to William T. Orr:
Well, I've been back and forth in those interviews and I simply can't find anything to support this claim. Huggins, as I've said above, points with affection to Bill Orr. He gives several ways in which Orr was creatively useful. Garner clearly doesn't like Orr, but he doesn't say anything about Orr's creative contributions. In fact, he says, "I made it a career to stay away from the big brass", and generally indicates that he really wouldn't have been in a position to know anything about what was going on "at that level" of production. Though he tells a story about one instance in which Huggins' script changes were rejected on Rockford, he can't even definitively say whether Huggins had any creative input on Rockford—and Garner was producing the show!. In fact, Garner seems to be fairly fuzzy on a number of fairly basic details about his own career, which tends to weaken his credibility as a source for me. So, reluctantly, I'm gonna pull this revision from the Orr text. It might be accurate, but these citations can't be use to validate it. I'm intrigued by the phrase "in interviews and [ATA reminiscences]. . . ", though, because it seems to suggest you know of additional sources out there. Maybe if you can find those other interviews we might have something to work with. I completely agree that the article, without this passage, is way too one-sided for my tastes. I'd like to see the article eventually present a more balanced picture of the man. I agree there's no way it can be accurate to portray him in such a highly positive light. He was a studio exec. No studio execs are universally hailed as visionaries. Even Walt Disney has his detractors. CzechOut 06:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey, know anything about this one? Sounds like it had a pretty fantastic cast. But, as always, information's really thin on the ground. CzechOut 08:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the bulleted lists because I needed to make a statement about the direction of that article. It features no references, and is composed almost entirely of triva and bulleted lists, neither bode well for the fate of that article. It could be merged or deleted at any time with that sort of layout. If you feel I'm in the wrong, then you are free to revert it. I reached the 3RR I believe, so I won't start an edit war. But if you had seen how crazy the supervillain article had got with all the bullets, you might start to see things my way. Johnnyfog 03:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I certainly understand your frustrations with the need for "verifiable content", as the phrase goes. It does tend to turn articles into dry recitation of fact, rather than, as they could be, articles which include "verifiable viewpoints". What gets me is the "original research" ban, because that's such a subjective determination. The very definition of an "editor" is someone who chooses what's important and what's not. Indeed the requirement for notability seems in direct conflict with the ban on original research, because in determing "what's notable" you're doing research and offering an opinion. To me, the most notable thing about Temple Houston, for instance, was that it was the first of a new genre-crossing kind of show, and that it was Webb's major act of generating new revenue as a Warner exec. Other people could say that its importance is that was Hunter's first taste of NBC executive madness, a pre-cursor for his Star Trek experience. Still others have seen its notability in the fact that it was, apparently, the first time that an American actor who had previously played Jesus Christ got a starring role in serial television (Honest! there's a whole article about that at Jeffrey Hunter's website!)
So I dunno what to tell ya except to try to find those things that are interesting, verifiable and seem to you to be historically and/or globally relevant. And then ya just sorta let it go, and go on to the next thing. I've been looking at it like this lately: If there wasn't an article on a thing before, and I can find one thing about it that I know is incontrovertibly notable about it, then I'm happy having added that one bit of knowledge to the body of the Wiki. Whatever happens to it afterwards ain't really my problem.
Now as for your change to Wendy and Me, it's pretty sound. It could probably do without the NPOV-violating word "Bizarrely", and I'd like to find some kinda reference for it, but the basic concept of Burns breaking the fouth wall seems to have support on the various television sites. That was an article I was happy to find anything on and left it to come back to later. Frankly, I don't know how Burns did it. I mean, Gracie had just died and the man's out there schlecking away on (what sounds like) one of the worst sitcom ideas in history. If I'd loved my wife as much as he loved Gracie, and then she died right before an idiotic show was about to premiere, I'd have told 'em to take me to court cause I wasn't doin' it. CzechOut 04:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I tell ya. I like your changes to the Marion Hargrove sentence; it's more economical than what I had written, and conveys the same general sense of things. So in it stays.
But that damned word "technically"—I took it out for three reasons.
One is that it's a weasel word, which, as you know, Wikipedia advises against. My rule of thumb on these things when I come down to a close edit like this is to ask myself, "If I could only choose one of two terms, which is it?"
Another reason is that it's a violation of NPOV. By using "technically" you're implying that you don't believe it actually was a film. That's biased, and contrary to the facts. In point of legal fact it is a film. Therefore I've substituted the compromise word, "legally". This, I think, achieves the point of your edit without the bias.
The third reason is that I don't believe that even if it had been aired initially on TV, it would be a made-for-TV movie. In a general sense, it's not a reasonable use of the term. Check out my rant at Talk:Television movie for more on that one. But in the specific case of Girl, it makes even less sense. The only reason why it's a movie-length work at all is because Jack Warner mysteriously ordered Huggins to add 30 minutes to it. Warner's intent, according to the AAT Huggins interview, was to make it long enough to be released as a film. So I've just removed the reference to "made-for-TV movies" altogether.
The whole sentence now reads: When it was thereafter aired on television, it was not legally the debut of a new series, but the television premiere of a theatrical film.
I should point out, as well, that I've removed your attempts to specify the length of release to "one day" an "one afternoon". That's, I believe, how the article originally read before I touched it. When I tried to source that, I came up with conflicting information. Some say a day and some say a week. (I believe Huggins goes with the latter figure in his AAT interview, but I could be wrong). I didn't particularly see it as all that important to define precisely how long it was released, cause it's not that germaine to the point. However, if you think it is, by all means, provide your sources. I imagine a sentence could go something like. "Sources conflict on the exact length of the release; some say a day (give source), others claim it was released for a week (give sources)." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CzechOut ( talk • contribs) 21:50, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
Weird, I don't remember deleting that comment about the difference between TH and Sugarfoot. Can't even think of why I would've done that, except in carelessness. Ahh, well, at least it made it to ya long enough for you to have read it. Nah, I'm not a lawyer. And I definitely don't work for Warner Bros. I was raised on a steady, and rather bizarre diet of Walt Dsney biographies, so Warner's very much "the enemy". It's a simple formula: Donald > Daffy.
While, okay, Warner's was the first studio to make wholly original work for television, and, okay, they were the largest provider of fictional content for TV in its infancy, I note with some pride that Disney made it to television first. And at least Disney, unlike Jack Warner, had the balls and charm to make it in front of the cameras. Plus, DIsney was too busy building a truly multimedia empire long before Warner would've even understood what the term meant. And there's always the point that Disney didn't need television because his films were still doin' okay.
I'll go even one more step in shocking you by announcing that I hate westerns. Imagine I were playing the part of Dabney Coleman in Nine to Five. The one sure way Dolly Parton could have tortured me would've been to have tied me in the chair and forced me to watch an endless amount of Bonanza. Days of Our Lives I could've handled. But Lorne Greene? I'd have done anything to have gotten outta that chair.
I tend to agree with Huggins when he says that the whole impetus for Maverick (TV series) was his disdain for the traditional, square-jawed American hero. Westerns are only interesting to me when they attempt to realistically approach the era. So Unforgiven worked for me. And the modern Loveless (comic book) is great because it looks at the West in a distinctly post-Civil War light. Speaking of comic books, I particularly hate westerns in that medium, becuae they stunted the growth of the form for the whole of the 1950s, as far as I'm concerned. Without the break they imposed upon the super-hero genre, the sixties might've had a totally different, and more mature, relationship with comics. Some of the great writers of the day might've seen comics as a valid medium for their attention had not westerns dumbed 'em down.
But still, I can't ignore westerns. Maybe that makes me a good person to write about them, because I'm certainly no fan of anything but their influence on the history of American television. Heh, I'll admit to ya right now that the most interesting thing about our old friend Temple Houston is that it starred Jeffrey Hunter. But that's cause I'm a Star Trek fan. CzechOut talk | work 03:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Not sure if I'm with you there on female stars of movies lately having traditionally male names. "Uma" Thurman? "Demi" Moore? "Michelle" Pfeiffer? "Kate" Blanchett? "Judi" Dench? I'm sure i could go on. Oh, wait, you're talking about characters. Hmmm. I dunno. I don't tend to remember character names in film unless I see 'em a lot. But "Hermione" Granger and "Sue" Storm don't sound particularly male to me. Those are cheating, though, cause of their literary base, perhaps. Lessee, there's Miriam and Eliza Naumann in Bee Season (film), but that's a literary base as well. Oh, I know. There was Carrie in Four Weddings and a Funeral. And there's Jamie Lee Curtis' titular Wanda of A Fish Called Wanda. There's Gina from Beauty Shop, along with most of the female characters in the film. I mean, I guess that there's a relatively higher percentage of female characters having male names than exists in the general population, but I tend to think that's due to one of two factors: a) it makes it easy to do the surprise gender revelation trick; and b) it quickly establishes some character trait. It might also serve to make the character slightly more memorable if they have an unexpected name. Not sure it's quite as widespread as you believe, nor perhaps (where younger characters are concerned) as unrealistic as it might once have been.
Speaking of women, there was an interview I came across while looking at Temple Houston, which spoke to Fess Parker. I wish I could remember who it was with, but all I know is that it barely had any connection to TH, so I promptly dismissed it. It was with some female guest star who was talkin about how Jack Elam was the guy to see if you wanted a quick nip of whiskey on set. Anyway, the lady then went on to talk aobut Fess Parker, and how she believed he wasn't really all that bothered by missed opportunities in Hollywood, cause acting wasn't really his thing. He was, she claimed, much happier in the world of business and vineyards. And indeed he has left behind some fairly impressive wines. So I wouldn't be that surprised if you didn't like Daniel Boone, cause he probably wasn't enjoying it as much as other actors might've.
And you've brought up something there with Lorne Greene as the voice of Death. I wanna say that I always knew he was Canadian, and that's, kinda stupidly, why I didn't buy him as a Western patriarch. He just didn't seem like he belonged there, especially as he made no attempt at a regional dialect. How come his boys sounded so unlike him? Where did he possibly attain the cultured accent he used? It just took me right out of the narrative.
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Nah, the term's really old. As old as your prized Britannica, in fact.
One of our defects as a nation is a tendency to use what have been called “weasel words.” When a weasel sucks eggs the meat is sucked out of the egg. If you use a “weasel word” after another there is nothing left of the other. [1]
— Teddy Roosevelt, 31 May 1916, criticizing Woodrow Wilson's use of the term "universal voluntary military training"
It's also the bane of the sales industry. Sales supervisors are always admonishing their employees to strike the words "might", "may", "could", "possibly" and the like from their vocabulary, for fear that it will allow clients to find an avenue out of the pitch. Problem on Wikipedia is that life isn't black and white, and the intent of the sales person is deception. I think the complete avoidance of weasel words is sometimes detrimental, just because there is interesting information that can be lost just because it can't be expressed without a weasel word.
So my approach is simple. I go over something three times. I'm happiest if that process yields a true statement out of it without a weasel word. If I can't, I think hard about whether it should stay in. Most of the time, if my writing on a subject is simply plagued by weasel words, I know I'm writing way too broadly about something. A good example of an article that's "dying by weasel words" is that damned television movie article. The narrower the focus, the more definitive the language can be. Some topics, though, simply defy hard definition. I've been working on evil twin throughout the day, and there are so many exceptions to the rule, I've decided the interesting thing about it is that there are no hard and fast rules. So that article's overflowing with weasel words, and that's just how it's going to be until someone else comes along.
On other occasions, though, you have to take the weasel, because that's how people actually talk. We all hedge, in natural speech or writing. So if that's what you can verify, that's what you say. Take a look at Hank (1965 TV series). I personally believe it's only the second sitcom in history to have a series finale. I haven't said that, though, because I'm not absolutely sure. In choosing between an unverified statement that it is the second, or a verified statementt that ti's "one of the earliest", I'll choose the weasel every time. It gives notability, it's true, it's verifiable—and yet it's still interesting.
I alos think there's a sliding scale of weasel words. The worst are those that openly contradict each other, like the Woodrow Wilson example above. Or the word "technically", which we've discussed before. Anything that has the effect of rendering a point moot has to go. But below that, in terms of offense, are those words which are merely vague. "One of the", "sometimes", "frequently". These suggest trends and still maintain a meaning. By using these words, you're saying that a thing is leaning one way or the other, but you haven't done a close study of the matter. That's not prefereable to a hard stat, but in the humanities, it's par for the course. If nothing else, it's at least an acceptable placeholder until an actual number comes along.
Another way of looking at it: eschew the word that reduces a point. Keep that which adds something of value. And keep looking for the word that nails your point's colors to the mast. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 11:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
re: Saga of Waco Williams. You said guest star Wayde Preston was "immediately catapulted" by this episode into his own series. When this episode aired, Colt .45 starring Preston was in its second season. While cross-overs in Warner Brothers westerns were not uncommon, it was unusual for the star of another series to play a different role as guest star in another series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcarraher ( talk • contribs) 15:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the interesting comments. I have a copy of Jerry's book, but have not read it yet. I have no doubt that the comments about Dean refusing to play a cop are in there and I am excited to read it to find out. Once I do I will add a citation. Thanks for understanding and helping to make the articles on here be accurate. Donaldd23 ( talk) 17:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words - good to see that my hard work is appreicated! Yep, this place is addictive. I stumbled upon it about 18 months ago, found the category for black and white films and got sucked in! Have a happy new year. Lugnuts ( talk) 08:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
That's the thing with WP:BLP. Without a source, we can't say he changed his birthdate or just set it back. WP is funny that way. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure and it's my pleasure. I just do newpage patrol, sometimes. And I type fast. ;-) -- User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 14:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. My previous explanation on the Wallace Beery talk page notwithstanding, I clearly attacked what I saw as a minor problem with a sledgehammer, and I apologize. I've put back most of your edits, and adjusted one or two. For what it's worth, William Beery does only have one acting credit in the IMDb, but he had a long career in pictures, as a studio executive and as an actors manager. I think it's well worth noting. I hope my clarification works for you. And again, sorry about over-editing your fine work. Monkeyzpop ( talk) 07:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
During the film, in the scene "Martin Pawley", Ethan (John Wayne), between the time stamps of 08:11 and 08:20:
60 + Twice that much (= 120) = 180
> Best O Fortuna ( talk) 02:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Both Martha and Aaron draw close to the table.
(NOTE TO WINTON HOCH: This scene should be dramatically back- lighted.)
ETHAN There's sixty double eagles in there... twelve-hundred dollars.
He opens a waistline shirt button and hauls out a leather money belt and drops that on the table.
ETHAN An' twice that in here.
He reaches into the belt and takes out a few mint-fresh gold pieces which he slides across the table.
ETHAN ...only these got the late Emperor Maximilian's picture on 'em.
Martha picks up one of the gold pieces, staring at the face on the coin: the same as that on the medal -- staring sharply then at Ethan. Aaron is examining another coin with a different interest.
AARON Mint fresh... not a mark on 'em.
He glances questioningly at Ethan.
ETHAN So?
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I've left a few comments on the article's talk page that I hope might be of use to you in improving it. Anything I can do to help or if you have any questions or comments, feel free to get hold of me on my talk page. Regards, HJ Mitchell ( talk) 21:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, couldn't resist, I've added in a few references to the page. I tried to add more but it blocked half of them as f***ing spam! HJ Mitchell ( talk) 09:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey, take a look at the article. I've given it a bit of TLC, a few references and a copy edit. He's not easy to find information on! Anyway, take a look and see what you think. HJMitchell You rang? 08:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. In this article, you changed the layout in a way that creates big blocks of whitespace, so I reverted your edit. Is there something wrong with the previous layout as you see it? Please let me know, because I'll try to fix it if there is. (Also, if you do see a problem, what browser are you using?) Thanks. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 16:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
On the Erin O'Brien talk page you placed the following query:
The issue here is that to the extent you cited anything, you didn't use secondary sources. Instead you largely relied on imdb.com or other similar sites. (There's also the secondary problem that you are still refusing to learn how to do inline citations, a key skill in contributing to Wikipedia articles.) Citing imdb.com isn't forbidden, of course, but it cannot be the main source of an article on Wikipedia. If you can only write an article using imdb — or other similar summary sources — then the chances are that the subject isn't notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. Put another way, the fact that a person has an imdb article does not in any way suggest that they should have one at Wikipedia. I think you might benefit by reviewing the short guideline on primary, secondary and tertiary sources.
Another point. Both the article and the talk page had tags that said somewhat similar things. If, by your query, you were referring to the one on the talk page, don't take it personally. That tag is generally placed on most talk pages of living persons articles. The WP:Biography team make the rounds, placing it everywhere they can. In fact, I think they have a bot that just slaps it on the talk page anywhere their WP:Biography template has the "living" variable set to "yes". It's just a pro forma thing, which doesn't mean to suggest that you've in any way libeled Miss O'Brien. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 22:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I have added an image, a plot summmary, and working on a new episode list wikistyle which I should finish in the next week. I seem to specialise in episode lists. REVUpminster ( talk) 12:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't know where you are but here in the UK, it is showing almost continually and the DVD's individually have been released by amazon.uk, very cheap but oddly here I can no longer access the official site and amazon.com have withdrawn the DVD's. I have taken most of my work here on wikipedia from the more detailed work I did (29 pages)on the wikisite TV IV [2] where I will add some more images eventually. My favourite 'western' is Queen of Swords a Zorro ripoff made between the two recent Zorro films, only just shown in the UK 7 years after cancellation, and I did 40 pages on TV IV [3] REVUpminster ( talk) 10:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Have completed the episode guide and a bit more to the plot summary. I do not think I can do much more. REVUpminster ( talk) 18:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I used to watch this as a boy and liked James Garners laid back style. I remember Roger Moore being in it but had forgotton he replaced Garner and did not act with him. Jack Kelly I cannot remember at all. Despite here in the UK having something like 500 digital satellite channels (many are time shifted channels, shopping, documentary, lifestyle and about 16 religious, all American,) because Maverick is black and white is unlikely to be shown. This is why Cimarrron Strip being in colour was shown. I like The Saint but only the 47 colour episodes are continually shown and the 71 B/W ignored. We do occasionally get a shopping channel that show really old shows. One was called Bonanza and between shopping showed Bonanza and I Love Lucy. From my userpage you can see I am a fan of ITC shows but the black and white shows are never shown The heyday was 1955-1975. Canadian Fireworks did similar programmes 1995-2005 cashing in on what was popular in the cinema. REVUpminster ( talk) 18:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Howdy, you said that Alex Cord was a football player. Where and when did he play football? 4.240.117.67 ( talk) 03:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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I've added the "{{ prod}}" template to the article Doc Holliday's Saloon, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Doc Holliday's Saloon. You may remove the {{ dated prod}} template, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. shotwell 02:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, this is Skymasterson. I have no strong opinion one way or the other about the deletion of my little " Doc Holliday's Saloon" article.
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Realkyhick 06:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
PLease note all the free images located in the commons at :
its a sin not to even use one image of the film ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 16:51, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Noting your concerns at Talk:The Alaskans, I've added a bit more to the article. Clearly, though, it needs to grow up. If you find yourself with spare time, perhaps you could return some day after having done a fresh search for new info. CzechOut 07:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for not responding earlier. I was lost for a bit over at The Persuaders! and in trying to bring some connective thread to William T. Orr shows. Yeah, that Dakatoas cancellation is crazy. I really wonder if it's not unique for being axed, essentially, by viewers. I, at least, tend to think of the 60s as the dawn of "viewer activism" used to save shows. It's surprising to learn of a show where the polar opposite occurred. Can you, even anecdotally, think of another example of a show being killed by its viewers? CzechOut 04:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding contemporary perceptions of Orr, yeah, I'd gathered Garner wasn't happy with him. When Garner took WB to court, he was, for all intents and purposes, taking Orr to court. But for some reason I kinda stopped writing the main body of the article before I hopped over to other things. Maybe you can find juicy bits from those interviews and start a new section over at the main Bill Orr article? CzechOut 04:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I think you'll probably enjoy this little snippet from Later with Bob Costas. It appears to be all about Rockford, until he gets going. Then there's this whole thing about the court battles he's been in and why. Yeah, I know exactly nothing about Sunset except for the theme song and some production details. To be honest, I'm not really that crazy for the straight crime drama, except in small doses. I tend to find them very "samey" after a while. So, for that reason, I generally feel ya when you say "not much television overseen by Webb was ever worth watching"—except that I have a soft spot for Emergency!, which was actually a socially conscious show. And you can't really argue with fire-fighters, paramedics, and ER doctors as role models. Plus, how can a show starring a guy named RANDOLPH MANTOOTH really be bad?
As for the gulg between Orr and Warners at the end, it may have had something to do with his divorce from Joy Page. That happened in 1970, but one imagines the rumblings of discontent may have been present in the mid 60s. On the other hand, he could have gone what his son said and simply "walked away from the industry". It might've been the walking away which precipitated the breakup, not the other way around. However it went down, it's damned interesting that a guy who, from the studio's point of view, was doing a stellar job would've just disappeared. It's like Seinfeld or Andy Griffith just leaving when they were number 1. Or maybe it's that people like Roy Huggins were leaving Warners in the mid-60s and he just didn't want to rebuild the whole organization. CzechOut 07:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments on Girl! Don't think I'm with you on Girl as even technically a tele-movie, though: Talk:Girl on the Run. CzechOut 05:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
These are your edits to William T. Orr:
Well, I've been back and forth in those interviews and I simply can't find anything to support this claim. Huggins, as I've said above, points with affection to Bill Orr. He gives several ways in which Orr was creatively useful. Garner clearly doesn't like Orr, but he doesn't say anything about Orr's creative contributions. In fact, he says, "I made it a career to stay away from the big brass", and generally indicates that he really wouldn't have been in a position to know anything about what was going on "at that level" of production. Though he tells a story about one instance in which Huggins' script changes were rejected on Rockford, he can't even definitively say whether Huggins had any creative input on Rockford—and Garner was producing the show!. In fact, Garner seems to be fairly fuzzy on a number of fairly basic details about his own career, which tends to weaken his credibility as a source for me. So, reluctantly, I'm gonna pull this revision from the Orr text. It might be accurate, but these citations can't be use to validate it. I'm intrigued by the phrase "in interviews and [ATA reminiscences]. . . ", though, because it seems to suggest you know of additional sources out there. Maybe if you can find those other interviews we might have something to work with. I completely agree that the article, without this passage, is way too one-sided for my tastes. I'd like to see the article eventually present a more balanced picture of the man. I agree there's no way it can be accurate to portray him in such a highly positive light. He was a studio exec. No studio execs are universally hailed as visionaries. Even Walt Disney has his detractors. CzechOut 06:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey, know anything about this one? Sounds like it had a pretty fantastic cast. But, as always, information's really thin on the ground. CzechOut 08:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the bulleted lists because I needed to make a statement about the direction of that article. It features no references, and is composed almost entirely of triva and bulleted lists, neither bode well for the fate of that article. It could be merged or deleted at any time with that sort of layout. If you feel I'm in the wrong, then you are free to revert it. I reached the 3RR I believe, so I won't start an edit war. But if you had seen how crazy the supervillain article had got with all the bullets, you might start to see things my way. Johnnyfog 03:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I certainly understand your frustrations with the need for "verifiable content", as the phrase goes. It does tend to turn articles into dry recitation of fact, rather than, as they could be, articles which include "verifiable viewpoints". What gets me is the "original research" ban, because that's such a subjective determination. The very definition of an "editor" is someone who chooses what's important and what's not. Indeed the requirement for notability seems in direct conflict with the ban on original research, because in determing "what's notable" you're doing research and offering an opinion. To me, the most notable thing about Temple Houston, for instance, was that it was the first of a new genre-crossing kind of show, and that it was Webb's major act of generating new revenue as a Warner exec. Other people could say that its importance is that was Hunter's first taste of NBC executive madness, a pre-cursor for his Star Trek experience. Still others have seen its notability in the fact that it was, apparently, the first time that an American actor who had previously played Jesus Christ got a starring role in serial television (Honest! there's a whole article about that at Jeffrey Hunter's website!)
So I dunno what to tell ya except to try to find those things that are interesting, verifiable and seem to you to be historically and/or globally relevant. And then ya just sorta let it go, and go on to the next thing. I've been looking at it like this lately: If there wasn't an article on a thing before, and I can find one thing about it that I know is incontrovertibly notable about it, then I'm happy having added that one bit of knowledge to the body of the Wiki. Whatever happens to it afterwards ain't really my problem.
Now as for your change to Wendy and Me, it's pretty sound. It could probably do without the NPOV-violating word "Bizarrely", and I'd like to find some kinda reference for it, but the basic concept of Burns breaking the fouth wall seems to have support on the various television sites. That was an article I was happy to find anything on and left it to come back to later. Frankly, I don't know how Burns did it. I mean, Gracie had just died and the man's out there schlecking away on (what sounds like) one of the worst sitcom ideas in history. If I'd loved my wife as much as he loved Gracie, and then she died right before an idiotic show was about to premiere, I'd have told 'em to take me to court cause I wasn't doin' it. CzechOut 04:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I tell ya. I like your changes to the Marion Hargrove sentence; it's more economical than what I had written, and conveys the same general sense of things. So in it stays.
But that damned word "technically"—I took it out for three reasons.
One is that it's a weasel word, which, as you know, Wikipedia advises against. My rule of thumb on these things when I come down to a close edit like this is to ask myself, "If I could only choose one of two terms, which is it?"
Another reason is that it's a violation of NPOV. By using "technically" you're implying that you don't believe it actually was a film. That's biased, and contrary to the facts. In point of legal fact it is a film. Therefore I've substituted the compromise word, "legally". This, I think, achieves the point of your edit without the bias.
The third reason is that I don't believe that even if it had been aired initially on TV, it would be a made-for-TV movie. In a general sense, it's not a reasonable use of the term. Check out my rant at Talk:Television movie for more on that one. But in the specific case of Girl, it makes even less sense. The only reason why it's a movie-length work at all is because Jack Warner mysteriously ordered Huggins to add 30 minutes to it. Warner's intent, according to the AAT Huggins interview, was to make it long enough to be released as a film. So I've just removed the reference to "made-for-TV movies" altogether.
The whole sentence now reads: When it was thereafter aired on television, it was not legally the debut of a new series, but the television premiere of a theatrical film.
I should point out, as well, that I've removed your attempts to specify the length of release to "one day" an "one afternoon". That's, I believe, how the article originally read before I touched it. When I tried to source that, I came up with conflicting information. Some say a day and some say a week. (I believe Huggins goes with the latter figure in his AAT interview, but I could be wrong). I didn't particularly see it as all that important to define precisely how long it was released, cause it's not that germaine to the point. However, if you think it is, by all means, provide your sources. I imagine a sentence could go something like. "Sources conflict on the exact length of the release; some say a day (give source), others claim it was released for a week (give sources)." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CzechOut ( talk • contribs) 21:50, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
Weird, I don't remember deleting that comment about the difference between TH and Sugarfoot. Can't even think of why I would've done that, except in carelessness. Ahh, well, at least it made it to ya long enough for you to have read it. Nah, I'm not a lawyer. And I definitely don't work for Warner Bros. I was raised on a steady, and rather bizarre diet of Walt Dsney biographies, so Warner's very much "the enemy". It's a simple formula: Donald > Daffy.
While, okay, Warner's was the first studio to make wholly original work for television, and, okay, they were the largest provider of fictional content for TV in its infancy, I note with some pride that Disney made it to television first. And at least Disney, unlike Jack Warner, had the balls and charm to make it in front of the cameras. Plus, DIsney was too busy building a truly multimedia empire long before Warner would've even understood what the term meant. And there's always the point that Disney didn't need television because his films were still doin' okay.
I'll go even one more step in shocking you by announcing that I hate westerns. Imagine I were playing the part of Dabney Coleman in Nine to Five. The one sure way Dolly Parton could have tortured me would've been to have tied me in the chair and forced me to watch an endless amount of Bonanza. Days of Our Lives I could've handled. But Lorne Greene? I'd have done anything to have gotten outta that chair.
I tend to agree with Huggins when he says that the whole impetus for Maverick (TV series) was his disdain for the traditional, square-jawed American hero. Westerns are only interesting to me when they attempt to realistically approach the era. So Unforgiven worked for me. And the modern Loveless (comic book) is great because it looks at the West in a distinctly post-Civil War light. Speaking of comic books, I particularly hate westerns in that medium, becuae they stunted the growth of the form for the whole of the 1950s, as far as I'm concerned. Without the break they imposed upon the super-hero genre, the sixties might've had a totally different, and more mature, relationship with comics. Some of the great writers of the day might've seen comics as a valid medium for their attention had not westerns dumbed 'em down.
But still, I can't ignore westerns. Maybe that makes me a good person to write about them, because I'm certainly no fan of anything but their influence on the history of American television. Heh, I'll admit to ya right now that the most interesting thing about our old friend Temple Houston is that it starred Jeffrey Hunter. But that's cause I'm a Star Trek fan. CzechOut talk | work 03:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Not sure if I'm with you there on female stars of movies lately having traditionally male names. "Uma" Thurman? "Demi" Moore? "Michelle" Pfeiffer? "Kate" Blanchett? "Judi" Dench? I'm sure i could go on. Oh, wait, you're talking about characters. Hmmm. I dunno. I don't tend to remember character names in film unless I see 'em a lot. But "Hermione" Granger and "Sue" Storm don't sound particularly male to me. Those are cheating, though, cause of their literary base, perhaps. Lessee, there's Miriam and Eliza Naumann in Bee Season (film), but that's a literary base as well. Oh, I know. There was Carrie in Four Weddings and a Funeral. And there's Jamie Lee Curtis' titular Wanda of A Fish Called Wanda. There's Gina from Beauty Shop, along with most of the female characters in the film. I mean, I guess that there's a relatively higher percentage of female characters having male names than exists in the general population, but I tend to think that's due to one of two factors: a) it makes it easy to do the surprise gender revelation trick; and b) it quickly establishes some character trait. It might also serve to make the character slightly more memorable if they have an unexpected name. Not sure it's quite as widespread as you believe, nor perhaps (where younger characters are concerned) as unrealistic as it might once have been.
Speaking of women, there was an interview I came across while looking at Temple Houston, which spoke to Fess Parker. I wish I could remember who it was with, but all I know is that it barely had any connection to TH, so I promptly dismissed it. It was with some female guest star who was talkin about how Jack Elam was the guy to see if you wanted a quick nip of whiskey on set. Anyway, the lady then went on to talk aobut Fess Parker, and how she believed he wasn't really all that bothered by missed opportunities in Hollywood, cause acting wasn't really his thing. He was, she claimed, much happier in the world of business and vineyards. And indeed he has left behind some fairly impressive wines. So I wouldn't be that surprised if you didn't like Daniel Boone, cause he probably wasn't enjoying it as much as other actors might've.
And you've brought up something there with Lorne Greene as the voice of Death. I wanna say that I always knew he was Canadian, and that's, kinda stupidly, why I didn't buy him as a Western patriarch. He just didn't seem like he belonged there, especially as he made no attempt at a regional dialect. How come his boys sounded so unlike him? Where did he possibly attain the cultured accent he used? It just took me right out of the narrative.
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Nah, the term's really old. As old as your prized Britannica, in fact.
One of our defects as a nation is a tendency to use what have been called “weasel words.” When a weasel sucks eggs the meat is sucked out of the egg. If you use a “weasel word” after another there is nothing left of the other. [1]
— Teddy Roosevelt, 31 May 1916, criticizing Woodrow Wilson's use of the term "universal voluntary military training"
It's also the bane of the sales industry. Sales supervisors are always admonishing their employees to strike the words "might", "may", "could", "possibly" and the like from their vocabulary, for fear that it will allow clients to find an avenue out of the pitch. Problem on Wikipedia is that life isn't black and white, and the intent of the sales person is deception. I think the complete avoidance of weasel words is sometimes detrimental, just because there is interesting information that can be lost just because it can't be expressed without a weasel word.
So my approach is simple. I go over something three times. I'm happiest if that process yields a true statement out of it without a weasel word. If I can't, I think hard about whether it should stay in. Most of the time, if my writing on a subject is simply plagued by weasel words, I know I'm writing way too broadly about something. A good example of an article that's "dying by weasel words" is that damned television movie article. The narrower the focus, the more definitive the language can be. Some topics, though, simply defy hard definition. I've been working on evil twin throughout the day, and there are so many exceptions to the rule, I've decided the interesting thing about it is that there are no hard and fast rules. So that article's overflowing with weasel words, and that's just how it's going to be until someone else comes along.
On other occasions, though, you have to take the weasel, because that's how people actually talk. We all hedge, in natural speech or writing. So if that's what you can verify, that's what you say. Take a look at Hank (1965 TV series). I personally believe it's only the second sitcom in history to have a series finale. I haven't said that, though, because I'm not absolutely sure. In choosing between an unverified statement that it is the second, or a verified statementt that ti's "one of the earliest", I'll choose the weasel every time. It gives notability, it's true, it's verifiable—and yet it's still interesting.
I alos think there's a sliding scale of weasel words. The worst are those that openly contradict each other, like the Woodrow Wilson example above. Or the word "technically", which we've discussed before. Anything that has the effect of rendering a point moot has to go. But below that, in terms of offense, are those words which are merely vague. "One of the", "sometimes", "frequently". These suggest trends and still maintain a meaning. By using these words, you're saying that a thing is leaning one way or the other, but you haven't done a close study of the matter. That's not prefereable to a hard stat, but in the humanities, it's par for the course. If nothing else, it's at least an acceptable placeholder until an actual number comes along.
Another way of looking at it: eschew the word that reduces a point. Keep that which adds something of value. And keep looking for the word that nails your point's colors to the mast. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 11:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
re: Saga of Waco Williams. You said guest star Wayde Preston was "immediately catapulted" by this episode into his own series. When this episode aired, Colt .45 starring Preston was in its second season. While cross-overs in Warner Brothers westerns were not uncommon, it was unusual for the star of another series to play a different role as guest star in another series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcarraher ( talk • contribs) 15:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the interesting comments. I have a copy of Jerry's book, but have not read it yet. I have no doubt that the comments about Dean refusing to play a cop are in there and I am excited to read it to find out. Once I do I will add a citation. Thanks for understanding and helping to make the articles on here be accurate. Donaldd23 ( talk) 17:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words - good to see that my hard work is appreicated! Yep, this place is addictive. I stumbled upon it about 18 months ago, found the category for black and white films and got sucked in! Have a happy new year. Lugnuts ( talk) 08:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
That's the thing with WP:BLP. Without a source, we can't say he changed his birthdate or just set it back. WP is funny that way. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 02:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure and it's my pleasure. I just do newpage patrol, sometimes. And I type fast. ;-) -- User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 14:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. My previous explanation on the Wallace Beery talk page notwithstanding, I clearly attacked what I saw as a minor problem with a sledgehammer, and I apologize. I've put back most of your edits, and adjusted one or two. For what it's worth, William Beery does only have one acting credit in the IMDb, but he had a long career in pictures, as a studio executive and as an actors manager. I think it's well worth noting. I hope my clarification works for you. And again, sorry about over-editing your fine work. Monkeyzpop ( talk) 07:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
During the film, in the scene "Martin Pawley", Ethan (John Wayne), between the time stamps of 08:11 and 08:20:
60 + Twice that much (= 120) = 180
> Best O Fortuna ( talk) 02:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Both Martha and Aaron draw close to the table.
(NOTE TO WINTON HOCH: This scene should be dramatically back- lighted.)
ETHAN There's sixty double eagles in there... twelve-hundred dollars.
He opens a waistline shirt button and hauls out a leather money belt and drops that on the table.
ETHAN An' twice that in here.
He reaches into the belt and takes out a few mint-fresh gold pieces which he slides across the table.
ETHAN ...only these got the late Emperor Maximilian's picture on 'em.
Martha picks up one of the gold pieces, staring at the face on the coin: the same as that on the medal -- staring sharply then at Ethan. Aaron is examining another coin with a different interest.
AARON Mint fresh... not a mark on 'em.
He glances questioningly at Ethan.
ETHAN So?
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I've left a few comments on the article's talk page that I hope might be of use to you in improving it. Anything I can do to help or if you have any questions or comments, feel free to get hold of me on my talk page. Regards, HJ Mitchell ( talk) 21:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, couldn't resist, I've added in a few references to the page. I tried to add more but it blocked half of them as f***ing spam! HJ Mitchell ( talk) 09:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey, take a look at the article. I've given it a bit of TLC, a few references and a copy edit. He's not easy to find information on! Anyway, take a look and see what you think. HJMitchell You rang? 08:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. In this article, you changed the layout in a way that creates big blocks of whitespace, so I reverted your edit. Is there something wrong with the previous layout as you see it? Please let me know, because I'll try to fix it if there is. (Also, if you do see a problem, what browser are you using?) Thanks. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 16:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
On the Erin O'Brien talk page you placed the following query:
The issue here is that to the extent you cited anything, you didn't use secondary sources. Instead you largely relied on imdb.com or other similar sites. (There's also the secondary problem that you are still refusing to learn how to do inline citations, a key skill in contributing to Wikipedia articles.) Citing imdb.com isn't forbidden, of course, but it cannot be the main source of an article on Wikipedia. If you can only write an article using imdb — or other similar summary sources — then the chances are that the subject isn't notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. Put another way, the fact that a person has an imdb article does not in any way suggest that they should have one at Wikipedia. I think you might benefit by reviewing the short guideline on primary, secondary and tertiary sources.
Another point. Both the article and the talk page had tags that said somewhat similar things. If, by your query, you were referring to the one on the talk page, don't take it personally. That tag is generally placed on most talk pages of living persons articles. The WP:Biography team make the rounds, placing it everywhere they can. In fact, I think they have a bot that just slaps it on the talk page anywhere their WP:Biography template has the "living" variable set to "yes". It's just a pro forma thing, which doesn't mean to suggest that you've in any way libeled Miss O'Brien. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 22:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I have added an image, a plot summmary, and working on a new episode list wikistyle which I should finish in the next week. I seem to specialise in episode lists. REVUpminster ( talk) 12:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't know where you are but here in the UK, it is showing almost continually and the DVD's individually have been released by amazon.uk, very cheap but oddly here I can no longer access the official site and amazon.com have withdrawn the DVD's. I have taken most of my work here on wikipedia from the more detailed work I did (29 pages)on the wikisite TV IV [2] where I will add some more images eventually. My favourite 'western' is Queen of Swords a Zorro ripoff made between the two recent Zorro films, only just shown in the UK 7 years after cancellation, and I did 40 pages on TV IV [3] REVUpminster ( talk) 10:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Have completed the episode guide and a bit more to the plot summary. I do not think I can do much more. REVUpminster ( talk) 18:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I used to watch this as a boy and liked James Garners laid back style. I remember Roger Moore being in it but had forgotton he replaced Garner and did not act with him. Jack Kelly I cannot remember at all. Despite here in the UK having something like 500 digital satellite channels (many are time shifted channels, shopping, documentary, lifestyle and about 16 religious, all American,) because Maverick is black and white is unlikely to be shown. This is why Cimarrron Strip being in colour was shown. I like The Saint but only the 47 colour episodes are continually shown and the 71 B/W ignored. We do occasionally get a shopping channel that show really old shows. One was called Bonanza and between shopping showed Bonanza and I Love Lucy. From my userpage you can see I am a fan of ITC shows but the black and white shows are never shown The heyday was 1955-1975. Canadian Fireworks did similar programmes 1995-2005 cashing in on what was popular in the cinema. REVUpminster ( talk) 18:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Howdy, you said that Alex Cord was a football player. Where and when did he play football? 4.240.117.67 ( talk) 03:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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