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Let's use the article talk page to avoid edit warring. Scribner ( talk) 18:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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Of course Lincoln's assassination was a major event; there's no denying that. Would you assert that his assassination is of greater significance than his actions in the Civil War in preserving the Union? That is what is at issue here, methinks. Un sch ool 19:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
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I just saw your edit, [2] and I notice that you have the second highest amount of contribution to the Abraham Lincoln article. Thanks for fixing that Goodwin issue. I don't have access to the book. There's another Goodwin that doesn't have a page number, [ [3]]. Do you know if it's accurate, and if so, what page it's on? Also, do you want to help get this article to FA? It still needs quite a bit of work, but considering how important the subject is and the scrutiny a FA will get, it's actually pretty close. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 01:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell me more, please? Can you give me more references please? -- Ludvikus ( talk) 23:31, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
On [ 21 February 2006] you revised the text on WP:RS that became the section at Wikipedia:Reliable source examples. This text is some what US specific, dated, and does not assist editors of history articles with sourcing issues. The current WP History project B-class criteria points to the military history advice which is good, but doesn't cover how to deal with a hierarchy of lesser sources than appropriately published histories by historians. I'm intending to rewrite that section to deal with sources that won't meet the Wikipedia:MILMOS#SOURCES criteria. Fifelfoo ( talk) 12:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Diff. Does that source have everything you added, including "A Chicago Tribune writer produced a pamphlet that detailed Lincoln's life, and sold one million copies."? I just want to make sure before I move on to the next paragraph. It reads really well, by the way. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 02:10, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
(redent) Do you have the page numbers for this edit? Thanks. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:38, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
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I want to get Honest Abe to FA, and the main thing I worry about is the sourcing. I don't have a good library, so I've been doing it with Google Books. It doesn't allow me to read all the best scholarly books you mentioned. I'm about to work on the Civil War stuff, so could you tell me which are the best CW books? Hopefully some of them have a preview on Google Books. Thanks, - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 06:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
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Did you add the Nevins (2000) (Vol. IV), pp. 6–17 ref after "Lincoln grasped the need to control strategic points (such as the Mississippi River and the fortress city of Vicksburg) and understood the importance of defeating the enemy's army, rather than simply capturing territory. He had, however, limited success in motivating his commanders to adopt his strategies until late 1863, when he found a man who shared his vision of the war in Ulysses S. Grant. Only then could he relentlessly pursue a series of coordinated offensives in multiple theaters, and have a top commander who agreed on the use of black troops."? I looked through the history, and a lot of that was added without a cite I think, [4] so I'm trying to figure out which part is cited, and which parts still need refs. It also has a note saying Ulysses S. Grant: triumph over adversity, 1822-1865 By Brooks D. Simpson contradicts it. Thanks. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 15:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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Your said in your edit summary here: "everything is cited; please read the bibliography before complaining)"
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Thanks for helping with the German American article. -- Sift& Winnow 06:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I think you're right about the mediocre quality of the German American article. As with all the ethnic-American articles on WP, it's a shallow, chauvinistic piece that suffers from the WP policy of multi-editing. Every editor just has to get his or her own favorite factoid inserted into the article. It is, however, much better today than it was before the recent spate of editing. Although my time for intensive work on the article is limited, I will be formulating an outline of major themes that should be addressed, then gradually working on them. These will involve not only history, but also cultural themes, which are almost totally ignored in the article. As always, your contributions are valuable. -- Sift& Winnow 00:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I like your edits to the lead paragraph in James II of England. Have you read Steven Pincus's 1688: The First Modern Revolution? His thesis accords with your edits. -- Coemgenus 04:36, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
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Hi. Nice job on the Melancthon article replacing the Bibliography source material that was listed with references to secondary work... Stevenmitchell ( talk) 16:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I've followed your suggestion, and posted a new section on the TR Talk page. Swliv ( talk) 23:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
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I would like to get your opinion on how I can make the statement you deleted better. After hearing several comments from undergraduate students, it appears that there is a great deal of confusion about what the terms "conservative" and "radical" meant in the Reconstruction era, and many seem to equate the Democratic Party with the GOP, and the Republican Party with the Democratic Party of the 2000's. I think it is undeniable that straight comparisons like that are not only entirely wrong, but they make for nonsense history.
It is a factual assertion I have made, citing to valid sources, that the Democratic party's "conservatism" was a literal conservation (or preservation) of the white elite's hold on power, for better or worse. In addition, the Republicans, though voting for increased government involvement in railroad construction and infrastructure build-up, were strongly pro-industrial and pro-employer, a position they share with the modern GOP.
If you could help me figure out a way to clarify this better, it would be greatly appreciated. Cdtew ( talk) 00:39, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
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I have explained why I trimmed each individual link, at your request, here: Talk:North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement#External_links_cleanup.
Thanks and happy editing, Spencer T♦ Nominate! 00:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I have again reverted. Those are NOT citations. Either cite the entire original works, which are not referenced in the article otherwise, or leave them out. Citation is important for research, saying 'see this word and number' means absolutely nothing. Provide actual citations, or leave the article alone. And finally, Arguments from special authority are about as useful to me as a ten-speed bicycle is for a flatworm. ThuranX ( talk) 05:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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I have proposed on Talk:Progress (history) a merger of four articles here on wikipedia all about the concept of progress, and as your article Idea of Progress seems to be the best structured and sourced of the four articles, I would like to seek your input and assistance on this project especially.
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I have noticed some of your edits and wonder if I might invite you to help work on an entry I think needs a lot of attention and where your expertise would be useful? It's the First Red Scare, and I've put some material on its talk page. The entry is watched by someone who thinks the FRS was "all about anarchism" and whose knowledge of the FRS comes entirely from the entry as it stands now.
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Nice edit, thanks for citation. -- 208.59.93.238 ( talk) 00:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Have you had a look at the talk page of the Vladimir Lenin article? Notice how anti-Communist historians are considered "suspect" sources but pro-Communist sources are just fine and dandy. Paul Austin ( talk) 07:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for all the excellent contributions you've made to Harvard and Yale to date. If I could impose one request going forward, I'd ask that you use standardized citation templates (such as these) so that there are not competing styles within an article. Thank you and happy editing ! Madcoverboy ( talk) 18:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
These quotes appear almost NO where else on the Internet making the TR article truely unique. Please stop dumbing down this article. There's NO real reason to remove this information as it is not commonly even cited. I am putting several quotes back in.
Thanks SimonATL
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Please don't mistake me for one of those neo-secesshes who are striving so hard to besmirch the man's record in the interest of their own bizarre revisionist agenda(e). I am striving to keep the NPOV even on somebody I strongly admire, and I really think the epithet (almost reserved for Lincoln nowadays) is not neutral. -- Orange Mike | Talk 02:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Re: the concerns at Talk:John_Adams#Referencing: you along with Krellis ( talk · contribs) and No Guru ( talk · contribs) appear to have been major contributors in the article's past. Per the those comments linked here and comments made earlier on the talk page, I am attempting to help improve the article in accordance with a requested peer review. It would be greatly appreciated if you could take a look at the concerns and the article to help us figure out how to cite the several unreferenced sections and passages. I have tried to figure out what book(s) are used as sources in those sections but haven't been able to do so. Any help you can offer would be great. I am cc:ing this request to Krellis and No Guru on their respective talk pages. Thanks – Sswonk ( talk) 04:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I just to tell you the reason I modified the History of the United States article is because it already states in the article what the unemployment rate rose to, and that the opinion of a Washington Post columnist that Obama is a polarizing president is no more relevent to history than how polarizing Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush were. Also, may I ask whether one small special election in Massachusetts is really relevent to history, given how it is only one local election, and how most special election, such as this one, should be included in this article?
I'm concerned in 2 ways re your nice recent addition to The Bronx. 1. It is unsourced, and needs 1 or more, to move beyond WP:OR issues. 2. It is so well written, that it might be directly from an existing publn and hence violate [{WP:COPYVIO]] - altho I doubt it given your disciplinary background. Please address on the Bronx talk page. Bellagio99 ( talk) 02:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
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Excellent! NPOV at its finest, with solid sourcing and nuanced analysis. -- Orange Mike | Talk 15:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Please discuss on the talk page instead of edit-warring. THF ( talk) 01:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I am researching the history of feminism.
George Francis Train, Copperhead and candidate for President (1868?) is implicated in the split of the American Equal Rights Assoc (AERA) into National Woman Suffrage Assoc (NWSA) and American Woman Suffrage Assoc (AWSA) in 1869. This was due to the racist beliefs and strategy that he and Elizabeth Stanton and Susan Anthony used and propagated on a national tour promoting woman's suffrage while opposing black male suffrage. He reportedly financed their publication The Revolution.
My source is the essay "White Women's Rights, Black Men's Wrongs" by Andrea Moore Kerr, as published in One Woman, One Vote, Marjorie Spruill Wheeler. The author sites his work: The Great Epigram Campaign of Kansas. 1867
Do you have other confirmation of this? If true, he may qualify for the "most famous" Copperhead at least by impact of his actions and associations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charleebraun ( talk • contribs) 21:21, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Could you possibly look at my comment at Talk:Abraham_Lincoln#Semi-protection_expiry.3F? Thanks. Connormah ( talk | contribs) 17:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi there. I noticed your interest in historiography and thought I'd mention that I have Historiography of the American Civil War on my rather extended to-do list. So far the most I've done is list some potentially relevant articles at User:Recognizance/Sandbox2 - writing the article would be a huge undertaking. There's certainly no shortage of material though. :-)
The main reason I stopped by was a sloppy I made to Reconstruction era of the United States. I hit enter by mistake (hence the lack of edit summary) and didn't realise I'd removed the material about the schools of thought. Feel free to add it back in at some point. Recognizance ( talk) 19:44, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
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Just wanted to say thanks for adding the reference. Do you have (or have access to) the Macmillan Encyclopedia of World Slavery? Judging by the title alone, seems like it might be useful for adding new citations and/or more information to an article on the worldwide history of slavery! (I guess Wikipedia prefers secondary sources to tertiary sources but for an overview article like this, seems like it would fit the bill pretty well) What do you think? -- Joren ( talk) 00:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure that I agree with separating out "primary" vs. "secondary" sources in the References section. For one thing, except for the book authored by Johnson himself, all these sources (so far) are [[WP:PRIMARY|secondary sources]. For another, there's no guideline that I'm aware of in either the citation guidelines or the Manual of Style which indicates that such sources should be separated like this. I see this done in academic texts, but this is an encyclopedia. I'm also concerned that readers would be confused by the insertion of works into the References section which are not actually cited or utilized in the text. (And the Fiedel book you cite in a footnote is not in the References section.) Finally, your citation style is different that than outlined in the citation guidelines, and is not citing page numbers (which I've learned will be critical if the article is ever to reach GA or FA status; going back and doing this later is a huge pain.) Frankly, I won't work on the article if you are; we might edit the same sections create edit conflicts (which, if you're like me, is one of the most frustrating/annoying things in the world). What are your thoughts on these issues? - Tim1965 ( talk) 17:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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Although the historical usages are not currently negative, at the time of their use they were very derogatory. Please revise your text. Thanks. Castravalva ( talk) 18:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
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Encycropedia Britainca seems to fall into a "reliably published tertiary sources".
I should not use EB in detailed discussion. However, the fact that slave could be killed should be regarded as a well established fact. Moreover, I don't see why other definitions of slavery could exist without citation at all while kill part of definition require citation. Vapour ( talk) 00:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
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Dear Rjensen:
If I may, I would like to make a friendly inquiry into your specific knowledge of the careers and legacies of Jacob Bunn and John Whitfield Bunn. I have accumulated, over the last decade, hundreds of pages of biographical information concerning these two men and their immediate and extended families, and I have discovered nothing that suggests that they ever were in any fashion local, small-scale, or restricted to Sangamon County, in their scope of commerical, financial, and industrial operations. In fact, their businesses and business associations encompassed and represented capital quantities that were measurable in the hundreds of millions (U.S. dollars) in the early twentieth century. The Bunn brothers and their extended family constituted one of the most prominent and commercially prolific industrial dynasties ever to emerge from the Midwest. If you would be willing to share your information on these men and their careers, I would be very interested to listen and discuss, as it is rare that I encounter someone who is familiar with these men. Thank you very much for your time. Respectfully, a fellow dedicated American historian,
biogcontrib109 Biogcontrib109 ( talk) 09:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjensen:
You might find the book, "Jacob Bunn: Legacy of an Illinois Industrial Pioneer" to be of some interest. (Brunswick Publishing Company, 2005). Again, I would enjoy hearing your opinions of the Bunn brothers and their historical legacy. Thank you for your time. Respectfully,
biogcontrib109 Biogcontrib109 ( talk) 09:49, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjensen:
Yes, I am in fact the author, yet I do not promote myself as such, because my principal objective is to
make known the legacies of the men and women whom I have researched. These people have for an extended period of time escaped historiographical scrutiny. I would be very interested in your thoughts on the Bunn brothers, as you are clearly a Lincoln scholar, and I rarely--and I do mean rarely-- encounter historians who exhibit any degree of familiarity with these men and their commercial and civic legacies. Naturally, therefore, the thoughts of any fellow historian with knowledge of these men are of significant value to me. I have discovered and fully documented a great deal more about these men and their work since original publication, and have discovered even further proof that they established a global network of corporations and industry that affected a broad array of commercial sectors ranging from railroads and banks to international-scale shoe distribution and heavy manufacturing. If you are willing, I would greatly enjoy hearing your comments on these men and HOW you came to know of them. I would also be interested to know how you came to know of the "Jacob Bunn" biography. Thank you again for your response. I hope to hear from you.
Sincerely, Fellow Lincoln Scholar,
biogcontrib109 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biogcontrib109 ( talk • contribs) 10:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjensen:
You are one of the very first I have encountered who actually knew that Jacob Bunn was Lincoln's banker. It is also of note
that Lincoln was the general counsel to certain of the Bunns' businesses. John Whitfield Bunn served as a special messenger and coordinator for the mobilization and transfer of Union Army soldiers from Chicago to Cairo, Illinois. Additionally, John W. Bunn was appointed by Lincoln to the post of Pension Commissioner of Illinois. (See: James Alfred Ellis, "History of the Bunn Family in America" (Publisher: Romanzo Norton Bunn) (1928) P. 211 (See: Ancestry.com). Also, the book, "Abraham Lincoln By Some Men Who Knew Him" contains an extensive and detailed personal memoir related by John W. Bunn as to his close personal friendship and association with Mr. Lincoln. (See: Paul McClelland Angle, "Abraham Lincoln, by some men who knew him: being personal recollections of Judge Owen T. Reeves, Hon. James S. Ewing, Col. Richard P. Morgan, Judge Franklin Blades, John W. Bunn" (Ayer Publishing Co.: 1969) Pp. 100-117. See: http://books.google.com). The Bunns and their allied families had either organized, owned, directed, controlled, and/or managed businesses that represented capital quantities of more than $700 million ($ U.S.) by about 1920, and many of these enterprises became the foundations of later business enterprises. The Illinois Watch Company, for instance, was the foremost engine for the standardization of railroad time, from the mechanical and technological standpoint. There is in fact extensive historical documentation of the Civil War communications between Lincoln and the Bunns, and their corporate influence, although not international until after 1870, was indeed instrumental in Lincoln's political successes. It is tragic that these people have evanesced from historical cognizance, as so many contemporary commercial entities either derive from, or relate to, in some manner these men, their colleagues and family, and work. I strongly believe that cursory reference to their connection to Mr. Lincoln is not inappropriate in the "Prairie Lawyer" section of the Lincoln article, as they not only purchased a German newspaper for Lincoln during his initial presidential campaign, but they were also the primary contributors and managers of his campaign capital fund. All of this is fully documented. Are you by any chance familiar with Benjamin Ferguson or John Stryker?
Sincerely,
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While not immediately relevant to the Abraham Lincoln article, I would like to add politely that these men did far more than run the local bank. Their Springfield operations were vastly more extensive than banking. They were never restricted to Springfield in their scope of business and civic operations, and they were as prominent in Chicago as they were downstate, and in some instances, perhaps more so. John Whitfield Bunn's memoir of his personal friendship and association with Mr. Lincoln furnishes definite proof of their close connection to, and friendship with, Lincoln. See: "Abraham Lincoln By Some Men Who Knew Him." If I may humbly ask, were you unfamiliar with the large-scale economic significance of these men and their families, which impacted everything from aviation and large railroads to the building of global-scale manufacturing firms of what were, in some instances, unprecedented scale and volume? They were ANYTHING but merely LOCAL businessmen and bankers. It is not possible to frame or compose any comprehensive Illinois economic history without salient reference to them and to their historically interconnected families, such as Edwards, Capps, McClure, Stryker, Richardson, Jones, Willard, and Ferguson. I would be particularly interested in your knowledge of these latter families, as I do not often encounter anyone who has learned of them, despite the undeniable magnitude of the commercial and political achievements that some of them attained (particularly Ferguson, Stryker, Edwards, and Capps). Sincerely and respectfully, biogcontrib109. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biogcontrib109 ( talk • contribs) 03:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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I removed Arkansas and Oregon, because they did not belong there. However, may I remind you that Vermont was named by Samuel de Champlain and lake Champlain bares his name. Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan were part of Canada before 1783 and were named by French-Canadians themselves. Louisiana was name for King Louis of France by Lasalle. Napoleon sold it for 5 million without the French government's consent and doubled the size of the United States at the time. Maine was named after the province of Mayne in France and I put in references to those that needed sitations. Talk to me! Why you and you along choose to abolish this. You also removed French influence on American society. It was France that gave the statue of Liberty for the United States' 100th birthday. It was France that helped them gain their independence by sending 46,000 men, the French fleet and a debt of 26 million dollars back then. You know, if you want to be fair, why don't you abolish French immigration to the United States through the years, since it does not take into account the one million French Canadians that immigrated mainly between 1860 and 1930. -- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 20:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
You know, to be fair, there should be a section on French Canadian Americans and one on French Americans. The two are not the same. From the middle of the 17th century, Canadiens had already become very different to Frenchmen. Even during the seven years war, the Canadien Governor Vaudreuil did not get along with the French General Montcalm, who did not like Canadiens, and who often did not want to use them in battle. Then came the French revolution, and they became very different, more different than a German versus a Frenchman. The language also changed, because the Revolutionary guards did not want to continue speaking the language of the beheaded King and Marie Antoinette. To this day, Canadiens and Frenchmen do not like each other that much. Since most Franco-Americans are of Canadien decent, you should have a separate article. -- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 20:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Sir! I appreciate the response. I also liked what you said. I removed Delaware and kept only the 6 states named by the French explorers. You made me rethink about its' usefulness. Thank you!-- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 21:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Samuel de Champlain who named Vermont, was permanent in the sense that he not only founded Canada, but died there. Only his heart went back to France to his lover! Cavalier de Lasalle, who named Lousiana, met an unhappy ending, and died in present day Texas. Father Jacques Marquette, who was the first to put Wisconsin on the map, not only founded Sault Sainte Marie in Michigan, but also founded La Pointe, Wisconsin, and did live there for some time. La Vérendrye was a Canadien and not French, so were the Lemoyne brothers, Pierre d'Iberville and Bienville. But I like what you did and I thank you! So, if you agree with me about having two separate articles, one for French Canadian Americans and one for French Americans, would you help me put it together. This is where it would become interesting and more to the point, especially when you mention the French Huguenots. On one side, you would have the French Canadian Americans which would include: Canadiens, Acadians, Cayuns, and Québécois who immigrated to the states and became Franco-Americans. On the other side, you would have the French that came to the thirteen British colonies, like Dupont, Paul Revere, Peter Faneuil, the Huguenots, and the French that came during and after the French revolution. You would therefore have a more precise picture of what went on. Now, it is all together as if Irish Americans and English Americans were all one. What do you think? Can we do it? -- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 22:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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I just saw your edit, [2] and I notice that you have the second highest amount of contribution to the Abraham Lincoln article. Thanks for fixing that Goodwin issue. I don't have access to the book. There's another Goodwin that doesn't have a page number, [ [3]]. Do you know if it's accurate, and if so, what page it's on? Also, do you want to help get this article to FA? It still needs quite a bit of work, but considering how important the subject is and the scrutiny a FA will get, it's actually pretty close. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 01:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell me more, please? Can you give me more references please? -- Ludvikus ( talk) 23:31, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
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On [ 21 February 2006] you revised the text on WP:RS that became the section at Wikipedia:Reliable source examples. This text is some what US specific, dated, and does not assist editors of history articles with sourcing issues. The current WP History project B-class criteria points to the military history advice which is good, but doesn't cover how to deal with a hierarchy of lesser sources than appropriately published histories by historians. I'm intending to rewrite that section to deal with sources that won't meet the Wikipedia:MILMOS#SOURCES criteria. Fifelfoo ( talk) 12:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Diff. Does that source have everything you added, including "A Chicago Tribune writer produced a pamphlet that detailed Lincoln's life, and sold one million copies."? I just want to make sure before I move on to the next paragraph. It reads really well, by the way. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 02:10, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
(redent) Do you have the page numbers for this edit? Thanks. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:38, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
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Did you add the Nevins (2000) (Vol. IV), pp. 6–17 ref after "Lincoln grasped the need to control strategic points (such as the Mississippi River and the fortress city of Vicksburg) and understood the importance of defeating the enemy's army, rather than simply capturing territory. He had, however, limited success in motivating his commanders to adopt his strategies until late 1863, when he found a man who shared his vision of the war in Ulysses S. Grant. Only then could he relentlessly pursue a series of coordinated offensives in multiple theaters, and have a top commander who agreed on the use of black troops."? I looked through the history, and a lot of that was added without a cite I think, [4] so I'm trying to figure out which part is cited, and which parts still need refs. It also has a note saying Ulysses S. Grant: triumph over adversity, 1822-1865 By Brooks D. Simpson contradicts it. Thanks. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 15:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for helping with the German American article. -- Sift& Winnow 06:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I think you're right about the mediocre quality of the German American article. As with all the ethnic-American articles on WP, it's a shallow, chauvinistic piece that suffers from the WP policy of multi-editing. Every editor just has to get his or her own favorite factoid inserted into the article. It is, however, much better today than it was before the recent spate of editing. Although my time for intensive work on the article is limited, I will be formulating an outline of major themes that should be addressed, then gradually working on them. These will involve not only history, but also cultural themes, which are almost totally ignored in the article. As always, your contributions are valuable. -- Sift& Winnow 00:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I like your edits to the lead paragraph in James II of England. Have you read Steven Pincus's 1688: The First Modern Revolution? His thesis accords with your edits. -- Coemgenus 04:36, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
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Hi. Nice job on the Melancthon article replacing the Bibliography source material that was listed with references to secondary work... Stevenmitchell ( talk) 16:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
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I would like to get your opinion on how I can make the statement you deleted better. After hearing several comments from undergraduate students, it appears that there is a great deal of confusion about what the terms "conservative" and "radical" meant in the Reconstruction era, and many seem to equate the Democratic Party with the GOP, and the Republican Party with the Democratic Party of the 2000's. I think it is undeniable that straight comparisons like that are not only entirely wrong, but they make for nonsense history.
It is a factual assertion I have made, citing to valid sources, that the Democratic party's "conservatism" was a literal conservation (or preservation) of the white elite's hold on power, for better or worse. In addition, the Republicans, though voting for increased government involvement in railroad construction and infrastructure build-up, were strongly pro-industrial and pro-employer, a position they share with the modern GOP.
If you could help me figure out a way to clarify this better, it would be greatly appreciated. Cdtew ( talk) 00:39, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
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I have explained why I trimmed each individual link, at your request, here: Talk:North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement#External_links_cleanup.
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I have again reverted. Those are NOT citations. Either cite the entire original works, which are not referenced in the article otherwise, or leave them out. Citation is important for research, saying 'see this word and number' means absolutely nothing. Provide actual citations, or leave the article alone. And finally, Arguments from special authority are about as useful to me as a ten-speed bicycle is for a flatworm. ThuranX ( talk) 05:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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Nice edit, thanks for citation. -- 208.59.93.238 ( talk) 00:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Have you had a look at the talk page of the Vladimir Lenin article? Notice how anti-Communist historians are considered "suspect" sources but pro-Communist sources are just fine and dandy. Paul Austin ( talk) 07:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for all the excellent contributions you've made to Harvard and Yale to date. If I could impose one request going forward, I'd ask that you use standardized citation templates (such as these) so that there are not competing styles within an article. Thank you and happy editing ! Madcoverboy ( talk) 18:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
These quotes appear almost NO where else on the Internet making the TR article truely unique. Please stop dumbing down this article. There's NO real reason to remove this information as it is not commonly even cited. I am putting several quotes back in.
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Please don't mistake me for one of those neo-secesshes who are striving so hard to besmirch the man's record in the interest of their own bizarre revisionist agenda(e). I am striving to keep the NPOV even on somebody I strongly admire, and I really think the epithet (almost reserved for Lincoln nowadays) is not neutral. -- Orange Mike | Talk 02:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Re: the concerns at Talk:John_Adams#Referencing: you along with Krellis ( talk · contribs) and No Guru ( talk · contribs) appear to have been major contributors in the article's past. Per the those comments linked here and comments made earlier on the talk page, I am attempting to help improve the article in accordance with a requested peer review. It would be greatly appreciated if you could take a look at the concerns and the article to help us figure out how to cite the several unreferenced sections and passages. I have tried to figure out what book(s) are used as sources in those sections but haven't been able to do so. Any help you can offer would be great. I am cc:ing this request to Krellis and No Guru on their respective talk pages. Thanks – Sswonk ( talk) 04:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I just to tell you the reason I modified the History of the United States article is because it already states in the article what the unemployment rate rose to, and that the opinion of a Washington Post columnist that Obama is a polarizing president is no more relevent to history than how polarizing Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush were. Also, may I ask whether one small special election in Massachusetts is really relevent to history, given how it is only one local election, and how most special election, such as this one, should be included in this article?
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Excellent! NPOV at its finest, with solid sourcing and nuanced analysis. -- Orange Mike | Talk 15:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Please discuss on the talk page instead of edit-warring. THF ( talk) 01:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I am researching the history of feminism.
George Francis Train, Copperhead and candidate for President (1868?) is implicated in the split of the American Equal Rights Assoc (AERA) into National Woman Suffrage Assoc (NWSA) and American Woman Suffrage Assoc (AWSA) in 1869. This was due to the racist beliefs and strategy that he and Elizabeth Stanton and Susan Anthony used and propagated on a national tour promoting woman's suffrage while opposing black male suffrage. He reportedly financed their publication The Revolution.
My source is the essay "White Women's Rights, Black Men's Wrongs" by Andrea Moore Kerr, as published in One Woman, One Vote, Marjorie Spruill Wheeler. The author sites his work: The Great Epigram Campaign of Kansas. 1867
Do you have other confirmation of this? If true, he may qualify for the "most famous" Copperhead at least by impact of his actions and associations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charleebraun ( talk • contribs) 21:21, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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Hi there. I noticed your interest in historiography and thought I'd mention that I have Historiography of the American Civil War on my rather extended to-do list. So far the most I've done is list some potentially relevant articles at User:Recognizance/Sandbox2 - writing the article would be a huge undertaking. There's certainly no shortage of material though. :-)
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Just wanted to say thanks for adding the reference. Do you have (or have access to) the Macmillan Encyclopedia of World Slavery? Judging by the title alone, seems like it might be useful for adding new citations and/or more information to an article on the worldwide history of slavery! (I guess Wikipedia prefers secondary sources to tertiary sources but for an overview article like this, seems like it would fit the bill pretty well) What do you think? -- Joren ( talk) 00:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure that I agree with separating out "primary" vs. "secondary" sources in the References section. For one thing, except for the book authored by Johnson himself, all these sources (so far) are [[WP:PRIMARY|secondary sources]. For another, there's no guideline that I'm aware of in either the citation guidelines or the Manual of Style which indicates that such sources should be separated like this. I see this done in academic texts, but this is an encyclopedia. I'm also concerned that readers would be confused by the insertion of works into the References section which are not actually cited or utilized in the text. (And the Fiedel book you cite in a footnote is not in the References section.) Finally, your citation style is different that than outlined in the citation guidelines, and is not citing page numbers (which I've learned will be critical if the article is ever to reach GA or FA status; going back and doing this later is a huge pain.) Frankly, I won't work on the article if you are; we might edit the same sections create edit conflicts (which, if you're like me, is one of the most frustrating/annoying things in the world). What are your thoughts on these issues? - Tim1965 ( talk) 17:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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Dear Rjensen:
If I may, I would like to make a friendly inquiry into your specific knowledge of the careers and legacies of Jacob Bunn and John Whitfield Bunn. I have accumulated, over the last decade, hundreds of pages of biographical information concerning these two men and their immediate and extended families, and I have discovered nothing that suggests that they ever were in any fashion local, small-scale, or restricted to Sangamon County, in their scope of commerical, financial, and industrial operations. In fact, their businesses and business associations encompassed and represented capital quantities that were measurable in the hundreds of millions (U.S. dollars) in the early twentieth century. The Bunn brothers and their extended family constituted one of the most prominent and commercially prolific industrial dynasties ever to emerge from the Midwest. If you would be willing to share your information on these men and their careers, I would be very interested to listen and discuss, as it is rare that I encounter someone who is familiar with these men. Thank you very much for your time. Respectfully, a fellow dedicated American historian,
biogcontrib109 Biogcontrib109 ( talk) 09:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjensen:
You might find the book, "Jacob Bunn: Legacy of an Illinois Industrial Pioneer" to be of some interest. (Brunswick Publishing Company, 2005). Again, I would enjoy hearing your opinions of the Bunn brothers and their historical legacy. Thank you for your time. Respectfully,
biogcontrib109 Biogcontrib109 ( talk) 09:49, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjensen:
Yes, I am in fact the author, yet I do not promote myself as such, because my principal objective is to
make known the legacies of the men and women whom I have researched. These people have for an extended period of time escaped historiographical scrutiny. I would be very interested in your thoughts on the Bunn brothers, as you are clearly a Lincoln scholar, and I rarely--and I do mean rarely-- encounter historians who exhibit any degree of familiarity with these men and their commercial and civic legacies. Naturally, therefore, the thoughts of any fellow historian with knowledge of these men are of significant value to me. I have discovered and fully documented a great deal more about these men and their work since original publication, and have discovered even further proof that they established a global network of corporations and industry that affected a broad array of commercial sectors ranging from railroads and banks to international-scale shoe distribution and heavy manufacturing. If you are willing, I would greatly enjoy hearing your comments on these men and HOW you came to know of them. I would also be interested to know how you came to know of the "Jacob Bunn" biography. Thank you again for your response. I hope to hear from you.
Sincerely, Fellow Lincoln Scholar,
biogcontrib109 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biogcontrib109 ( talk • contribs) 10:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjensen:
You are one of the very first I have encountered who actually knew that Jacob Bunn was Lincoln's banker. It is also of note
that Lincoln was the general counsel to certain of the Bunns' businesses. John Whitfield Bunn served as a special messenger and coordinator for the mobilization and transfer of Union Army soldiers from Chicago to Cairo, Illinois. Additionally, John W. Bunn was appointed by Lincoln to the post of Pension Commissioner of Illinois. (See: James Alfred Ellis, "History of the Bunn Family in America" (Publisher: Romanzo Norton Bunn) (1928) P. 211 (See: Ancestry.com). Also, the book, "Abraham Lincoln By Some Men Who Knew Him" contains an extensive and detailed personal memoir related by John W. Bunn as to his close personal friendship and association with Mr. Lincoln. (See: Paul McClelland Angle, "Abraham Lincoln, by some men who knew him: being personal recollections of Judge Owen T. Reeves, Hon. James S. Ewing, Col. Richard P. Morgan, Judge Franklin Blades, John W. Bunn" (Ayer Publishing Co.: 1969) Pp. 100-117. See: http://books.google.com). The Bunns and their allied families had either organized, owned, directed, controlled, and/or managed businesses that represented capital quantities of more than $700 million ($ U.S.) by about 1920, and many of these enterprises became the foundations of later business enterprises. The Illinois Watch Company, for instance, was the foremost engine for the standardization of railroad time, from the mechanical and technological standpoint. There is in fact extensive historical documentation of the Civil War communications between Lincoln and the Bunns, and their corporate influence, although not international until after 1870, was indeed instrumental in Lincoln's political successes. It is tragic that these people have evanesced from historical cognizance, as so many contemporary commercial entities either derive from, or relate to, in some manner these men, their colleagues and family, and work. I strongly believe that cursory reference to their connection to Mr. Lincoln is not inappropriate in the "Prairie Lawyer" section of the Lincoln article, as they not only purchased a German newspaper for Lincoln during his initial presidential campaign, but they were also the primary contributors and managers of his campaign capital fund. All of this is fully documented. Are you by any chance familiar with Benjamin Ferguson or John Stryker?
Sincerely,
biogcontrib109 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biogcontrib109 ( talk • contribs) 10:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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While not immediately relevant to the Abraham Lincoln article, I would like to add politely that these men did far more than run the local bank. Their Springfield operations were vastly more extensive than banking. They were never restricted to Springfield in their scope of business and civic operations, and they were as prominent in Chicago as they were downstate, and in some instances, perhaps more so. John Whitfield Bunn's memoir of his personal friendship and association with Mr. Lincoln furnishes definite proof of their close connection to, and friendship with, Lincoln. See: "Abraham Lincoln By Some Men Who Knew Him." If I may humbly ask, were you unfamiliar with the large-scale economic significance of these men and their families, which impacted everything from aviation and large railroads to the building of global-scale manufacturing firms of what were, in some instances, unprecedented scale and volume? They were ANYTHING but merely LOCAL businessmen and bankers. It is not possible to frame or compose any comprehensive Illinois economic history without salient reference to them and to their historically interconnected families, such as Edwards, Capps, McClure, Stryker, Richardson, Jones, Willard, and Ferguson. I would be particularly interested in your knowledge of these latter families, as I do not often encounter anyone who has learned of them, despite the undeniable magnitude of the commercial and political achievements that some of them attained (particularly Ferguson, Stryker, Edwards, and Capps). Sincerely and respectfully, biogcontrib109. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biogcontrib109 ( talk • contribs) 03:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Rjensen:
Please tell me exactly which of the below statements of fact you consider false or opinion. If any are such, perhaps
removing them would be a better response than the wholesale deleting of half the article. If rather you simply find
some of the facts inconvenient or disturbing, I believe the managers of Wikipedia will not like your removing such
facts. Nor would you like having wholesale paragraphs unilaterally deleted from some of your many Wiki articles.
The below piece treats several important aspects of passenger train travel. They are part and parcel of the history
of rail in N. America, and I will not suffer their cavalier removal.
Tell me which facts you feel are incorrect, be specific. I will then cite you authorities by book and page. If I am
unable to do so, only those facts may be removed. RSVP to hannum7@yahoo.com, because I cannot figure out
how we can communicate otherwise.
Sincerely, James Hannum, Author of below article:
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I removed Arkansas and Oregon, because they did not belong there. However, may I remind you that Vermont was named by Samuel de Champlain and lake Champlain bares his name. Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan were part of Canada before 1783 and were named by French-Canadians themselves. Louisiana was name for King Louis of France by Lasalle. Napoleon sold it for 5 million without the French government's consent and doubled the size of the United States at the time. Maine was named after the province of Mayne in France and I put in references to those that needed sitations. Talk to me! Why you and you along choose to abolish this. You also removed French influence on American society. It was France that gave the statue of Liberty for the United States' 100th birthday. It was France that helped them gain their independence by sending 46,000 men, the French fleet and a debt of 26 million dollars back then. You know, if you want to be fair, why don't you abolish French immigration to the United States through the years, since it does not take into account the one million French Canadians that immigrated mainly between 1860 and 1930. -- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 20:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
You know, to be fair, there should be a section on French Canadian Americans and one on French Americans. The two are not the same. From the middle of the 17th century, Canadiens had already become very different to Frenchmen. Even during the seven years war, the Canadien Governor Vaudreuil did not get along with the French General Montcalm, who did not like Canadiens, and who often did not want to use them in battle. Then came the French revolution, and they became very different, more different than a German versus a Frenchman. The language also changed, because the Revolutionary guards did not want to continue speaking the language of the beheaded King and Marie Antoinette. To this day, Canadiens and Frenchmen do not like each other that much. Since most Franco-Americans are of Canadien decent, you should have a separate article. -- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 20:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Sir! I appreciate the response. I also liked what you said. I removed Delaware and kept only the 6 states named by the French explorers. You made me rethink about its' usefulness. Thank you!-- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 21:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Samuel de Champlain who named Vermont, was permanent in the sense that he not only founded Canada, but died there. Only his heart went back to France to his lover! Cavalier de Lasalle, who named Lousiana, met an unhappy ending, and died in present day Texas. Father Jacques Marquette, who was the first to put Wisconsin on the map, not only founded Sault Sainte Marie in Michigan, but also founded La Pointe, Wisconsin, and did live there for some time. La Vérendrye was a Canadien and not French, so were the Lemoyne brothers, Pierre d'Iberville and Bienville. But I like what you did and I thank you! So, if you agree with me about having two separate articles, one for French Canadian Americans and one for French Americans, would you help me put it together. This is where it would become interesting and more to the point, especially when you mention the French Huguenots. On one side, you would have the French Canadian Americans which would include: Canadiens, Acadians, Cayuns, and Québécois who immigrated to the states and became Franco-Americans. On the other side, you would have the French that came to the thirteen British colonies, like Dupont, Paul Revere, Peter Faneuil, the Huguenots, and the French that came during and after the French revolution. You would therefore have a more precise picture of what went on. Now, it is all together as if Irish Americans and English Americans were all one. What do you think? Can we do it? -- 142.169.118.147 ( talk) 22:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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