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Hello! I am wondering what problems you had with my edits on the Agricultural Adjustment Act. I added correct citations and corrected punctuation errors, as well as other errors (such as changing 300 billion to the correct number as cited in the original source, 3 billion). I don't see why you reverted my edits. Thanks. Johnson History202 ( talk) 02:52, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
I have a question is your proposed addition for the lead or the body of the article? (Side note I reverted your addition). -- Moxy ( talk) 17:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey Jensen—I was watching your Wikimania talk and towards the end, you mentioned being singled out by other historians as "the Wikipedia editor" in the footnotes of articles (I know how historians love their footnote wars). If you have a second, could you point me in the direction of articles that have mentioned you like this? I have database access, so I won't need much more than the titles/authors. I'm curious what they had to say. czar ? 00:14, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
"many professional historians remain skeptical about Wikipedia"are an implicit criticism of WP:CRED. I've had no success getting history professors to sign on to the Education Program despite being a history major myself. Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:26, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
What bibliography would you recommend on him? I've just started work, and I have the Stahr and Taylor bios, plus Team of Rivals plus whatever I have from the Johnson and Stevens projects. Both books and articles. I can get more,-- Wehwalt ( talk) 14:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
An alternative Confederate country flag is now displayed in the Infobox for the Confederate States Army which is repeatedly disruptive of Jefferson Davis page and other Confederate personalities. It is the “Blood Stained Banner”, the flag of the Confederacy “since 1865” as identified by the CSA, Inc. Placing this flag on historical articles is pushing that organization’s POV.
The Confederate States army served under the "First National Flag", the history article at WP should picture the flag of their time, the “First national flag with 13 stars”, File:CSA FLAG 28.11.1861-1.5.1863.svg. This flag is used in scholarship of reliable sources, building museums and battlefield parks as representing the Confederacy, 1861-1865.
The “Blood Stained Banner”, the flag of the Confederacy “since 1865” was passed as Richmond was being lost, it was never fabricated, never a part of the historical Confederacy. David Sansing, professor emeritus of history at the University of Mississippi at “Mississippi History Now”, online Mississippi Historical Society observes in his Brief history of Confederate flags, that the BSB was “unlikely” to have flown over “any Confederate troops or civilian agencies”. He quoted the author of “Confederate Military History”, General Bradley T. Johnson, “I never saw this flag, nor have I seen a man who did see it.” -- the BSB.
In contrast, Ellis Merton Coulter in his The Confederate States of America, 1861-1865 viewed June 13, 2012, published in LSU’s History of the South series, on page 118 notes that beginning in March 1861, the Stars-and-Bars was used “all over the Confederacy”.
Do you believe that this is sufficient documentation to replace the Blood-Stained-Banner in the Infobox of 'Confederate States Army'? TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 14:37, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
You did it seconds before I was using TW to undue it and add to his talk page! Alatari ( talk) 02:19, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
You made a change to the Introduction here. I've reverted it (per BRD) as I feel it misrepresents the situation. I've opened a discussion here. Regards, Xyl 54 ( talk) 00:07, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
What is your opinion of the usage of primary sources? Should primary sources be given status over
reliable secondary sources?
Also, I am having a "discussion"
[1] with another editor who has changed a sentence referenced by Mallett and Shaw
[2] to reflect, I suspect, their own personal opinion. As well as adding a journalist,
Luigi Barzini, Jr., as a source for his changes.
I would like your opinion on these matters, if you don't mind. Thank you. --
Kansas Bear (
talk) 23:05, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I'm not English-speaking. You write: You seem to have an unusual interest in the GeaCron historical atlas...is there a conflict of interest?
I created the page Geacron as a translation of the Spanish version. As it was an orphan, I have tried to link to her pages with which I estimate is directly related.
As indicated help instructions on Orphan pages, create links that suitable estimates. I'm not a very experienced user in the English wikipedia and I did not know these restrictions.
Maybe you could see if geacron.com deserves that recognition.
Celemin ( talk) 13:00, 25 March 2014 (UTC)celemin
It's Bold, Revert, Discuss, not Bold, Revert, Begin an edit war. Please self-revert and begin a discussion in Talk. Thanks! ElKevbo ( talk) 03:58, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed that in the Revision as of 03:45, 9 February 2014 of the Library of Congress article, you wrote To restore the collection in 1815, former president Thomas Jefferson sold 6,487 books, his entire personal collection, to pay his debts, but the paragraph ends as such, in a comma, and is still left that way, and I wondered if it's a typo and the sentence is meant to end, or if you forgot to finish the sentence. I tried searching from various official sources, but none of them actually explain where the debt came from, so I felt unsure to finish the sentence myself. ~ Nelg ( talk) 21:43, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
The delegation of the Dalai Lama of Tibet which went to China in 1950 apparently spoke English, as shown here. The Indian press, of course, has spoken English since British occupation. If you don't consider this information "encyclopedic", please review the citation before removing the information. I added it to the article on Zhou because it is a form of international critique of his leadership with respect to other Asian countries, and a commentary on their perception of his behavior-- that commentary happens to be in English, which may be surprising, which is why I provided a citation. It is not difficult to find ample evidence of this nickname in reliable published sources. Please have a look. Thanks! KDS4444 Talk 05:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I reverted your edit to the lead section of Aaron Swartz because the reports of how much material don't all agree. Also, it's unclear what portion of the total amount downloaded was actually at issue. So instead of a specific amount, feel free to say "a large number," which is what I did in the body of the article. See Talk:Aaron Swartz/Archive 2#Amount downloaded for where this was initially discussed, and Aaron Swartz#endnote quantity downloaded for the resulting endnote which explains. — mjb ( talk) 11:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
For the WikiProject Netherlands of which you are a member, we have started a monthly Article for improvement. I invite you to contribute to this month's article: Drenthe. – Editør ( talk) 13:39, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Just to let you know I've left a reply to your edits and the points made, here. Regards, Xyl 54 ( talk) 23:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Rjensen,
Ok. I am fine either way with the quotation. I am starting to think that if I do not source the archive document along with Barrett as the secondary, that Yopie will continue to delete it as non-notable and/or trivia. As far as I can tell from his page, all he does is delete other people's posts. I have never had a situation like this before. What do you recommend? Thank you, WildcatES. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WildcatES ( talk • contribs) 16:44, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
The files you re-added to this article have issues that need fixed. Werieth ( talk) 01:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
First off, kindly do not delete discussion tags when the discussion is still taking place. I was content to wait until you had formulated yur replies and I would appreciate the same courtesy.
Second, don’t change the text to bolster your own position when the text hasn’t been decided on yet. What part of WP:DISCUSS makes you think that is OK?
I've reverted the article to the status quo ante, where it should be 'til the matter is settled. I've also requested comments on this, as we are obviously nowhere near any agreement on the issue, or on what the article should say.
Xyl 54 (
talk) 12:35, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I have redirect that to our pre-existing article, State highways in California. In addition, I reverted the split of content from History of California 1900 to present, but removed the list of Interstate Highways from that article because we have List of state highways in California already. In the future, the article suite on California's highways may be revised to follow the structure used by Michigan (which has Michigan State Trunkline Highway System along with List of Interstate Highways in Michigan, List of U.S. Highways in Michigan, List of state trunklines in Michigan, and Michigan Heritage Route). Imzadi 1979 ? 22:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Several secondary sources towards the end of this section testify to the claim that the article subject is a descendant of the U.S. Whig Party. Personally, I think that claim is quite dubious, but how can readers evaluate it if we don't tell them what the U.S. Whig Party was?
On more procedural topics, please note WP:BRD. You were bold, I've reverted, so let's discuss. Also note per WP:V that simple lack of citations is not sufficient reason to remove material. Rather, citations are required for "any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged." Therefore, please clarify exactly what it is that you think may not be true. -- BlueMoonlet ( t/ c) 03:05, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Saw your vote on the Adrianne Wadewitz AfD. I was pleased to see your support there to keep the article and support her notability. We've spatted on articles in the past, but we are in agreement on this issue. Thanks. Montanabw (talk) 04:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
"Not surprisingly, some of those 90% are unhappy with her as we can see on this very page."I find it sad that you conflate deletion votes and male editors (both of which I represent) with some sort of anti-feminist attitudes. You can voice whatever opinion you want in regards to the NYT obit, but I think you're out of line claiming bias drives the deletion discussion. Chris Troutman ( talk) 04:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Like Montanabw (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
I suspect you have other fish to fry, and other battles to fight, but an issue that has long bothered me is the titling of articles about people who are victims of a tragedy as Suicide of Foo, Murder of Foo, Disappearance of Foo, etc. To me, if WP:GNG is met for an article to be created about that one person, then WP:BIO1E or no WP:BIO1E, the article needs to be titled with their own name, not a label, they are not the tragedy that befell them. To me, it dehumanizes them further. And such victims tend to be disproportionately women and children. Certainly some biographies probably are short enough to simply be merged into the article about the tragedy, as in AMBER alert and Amber Hagerman. But others, not so. But my pleas have fallen on deaf ears and consensus has run strongly in the other direction. Thoughts? Montanabw (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
That's a good example of WP:BIO1E, as, sadly, was Coumbine. However, I am looking more at articles like Natalee Holloway, Chandra Levy or others on individual victims of individual tragedies. Murder of Foo or Suicide of Foo is just demeaning, IMHO. After all we have Lawnchair Larry, not Flight of Lawnchair Larry. (Arguably, if the latter were used consistently, I'd have less grumbling, but I actually raised this issue once, only to have the same people argue that he was notable, but the poor kid driven to suicide was not) Montanabw (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
It is not good practice to revert multiple changes made by
another editor if you disagree with only one.
—Telpardec
TALK 08:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
I don’t mean to get abstruse on you, but I have run into pushback concerning what “contextual significance” means in WP:NFCC #8, so I would like to try out my understanding. It is currently related to an RfC but I’m not supposed to “canvass”? So this inquiry is for background information only. I may need a sort of vocabulary lesson from a friendly resource, an operative definition for use at WP.
I have uploaded File:Virginia ratification 1988 U.S. stamp.1.jpg at History of Virginia on stamps#Revolution and Constitution. The accompanying narrative begins with a description of the colonial Capitol building where the vote took place, a concrete description of the stamp’s design. But editors objecting seem to desire some sort of literary criticism of the stamps themselves for stamps which are non-free content, such as those issued by the USPS beginning 1978. But that seems to me too restrictive, and too narrowly focused on the stamp design, not the stamp itself.
From my historical background, "Contextual significance”, — which all agree is required in some sense — in this case, in my view, comes from viewing the larger cultural-historic milieu apart from the explicit significance which comes from the specific event. The explicit significance of a Ratification Convention is the approval (Virginia) or rejection (Rhode Island) of the Constitution as proposed.
The contextual significance of a Ratification Convention is the meaning of the resolution (pro or con) to the debate in other states, or to the geographic continuity of the proposed Union, or to the subsequent adoption of the Bill of Rights.
The text adjacent to the image reads, in part, from two third-party reliable sources, "Virginia was substantially the largest of the thirteen states, with territory cutting west through to the Mississippi River. Without approval of Virginia and New York which likewise cut the other state territories in two, the agreement of the others would have had little effect.[27] Virginia was home to leaders supporting the Constitution such as George Washington and James Madison, and those opposing such as Patrick Henry and George Mason. Only after a promise for a Bill of Rights did Virginia narrowly ratify.[28]”
Any one of the three, sourced from the Smithsonian’s National Postal Museum Arago, or the University Press of Kansas’ “Cradle of America” by Wallenstein, would qualify for contextual significance, in my opinion. But others not only disagree, they deny there is any "contextual significance" imparted, zero” at all. Any observation, explication or critique on “contextual significance” in this case is welcome. Thanks in advance. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 13:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed this and note how much the Spanish history was taken out..... not that there need a particular page for Spanish exploration of the SE Alaska, but..... seems like a big cut, given similar material on BC and other state pages. Skookum1 ( talk) 06:41, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Since I am not a religious person and I do not attend church, I don't know the difference between a Protestant bible and a Catholic bible. Why is a Protestant bible offensive to the Catholic faith?-- Doug Coldwell ( talk) 15:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I think comment from one of the article editors is needed here: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Jefferson Davis
Did you see this? http://www.historians.org/publications-and-directories/perspectives-on-history/may-2014/improving-wikipedia "Improving Wikipedia: Notes from an Informed Skeptic" czar ? 07:06, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, for letting me know, and for updating a number of these.
I'd tagged them as 'wrong license' or 'NFUR not needed' PRECISELY BECAUSE they were when tagged wrongly labelled.
If the concern was about the use of F4, then please state which images were of concern. Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 10:50, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
As you seem to be more experienced, perhaps you could cast a cautious over these with a view to 'rescuing' some of them? Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 12:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Saw your edit at the CSA page. I hadn't questioned that passage previously, mostly because I have no idea what an exequatur is, or what it has to do with recognition. The passage did include a link to a report by the Confederate secretary of state, in which the request for an exequatur is mentioned, so I figured: Well, it's cited, at least. But with that said -- after noticing your change, and reviewing the original citation, I went poking around for more context. Apparently the text of the request expressly denied any recognition to the Confederate government. Moreover, the Confederacy allowed previously-granted exequaturs to remain in force from nations like Britain and France, who clearly did not recognize the Confederacy.
Long story short: It looks to me like there was an exequatur request, but that it's irrelevant to questions of recognition, and thus shouldn't be in the article.
Short story shorter: Good edit, thanks for improving the article. :) Rob ( talk) 15:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
There is a discussion at the Biographies of living persons noticeboard about this article, which you edited today. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:22, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Rjensen!
First, thank you for your edits on this article. I'm very sorry I have reverted some of them, and I'd certainly like the opportunity to explain why (as is only polite). Firstly, please do not think this a page-ownership thing - I'm very aware that some of the phrasing is not great - but can you leave the older text out please? In many respects it is inaccurate and the references, where available, are wrong or vague. I personally also found it a bit POV heavy too. And can you use the template:sfn format, per the rest of the article, if you add more? It's a GAN, though, so if you'd like to do the review and ask for certain omissions to be remedied, you'd be more than welcome to take it on as reviewer!
Thanks! Brigade Piron ( talk) 22:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
This is a note to let the main editors of Jefferson Davis know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on June 3, 2014. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at present, please ask Bencherlite ( talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 3, 2014. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:
Jefferson Davis (1808–1889) was President of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War. Born in Kentucky, he graduated from the U.S. Military Academy and had a career as a soldier, fighting in the Mexican–American War. As a plantation owner, he employed slave labor as did many of his peers in the South, and supported slavery. He served as Secretary of War and U.S. senator, arguing against secession, but agreeing that each state had the right to secede. At the beginning of the Civil War in 1861, Davis was chosen as President of the Confederate States. He took personal charge of the Confederate war plans but was unable to defeat the larger, more powerful and better organized Union. He is often blamed for contributing to the fall of the Confederacy. His diplomatic efforts failed to gain recognition from any foreign country and he paid little attention to the collapsing economy. At the end of the war in 1865, he was captured and imprisoned; after his release he entered private life. He wrote a memoir, The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government, eventually became a Civil War hero to many white Southerners and, in later life, encouraged reconciliation with the North. ( Full article...)
You (and your talk-page stalkers) may also be interested to hear that there have been some changes at the TFA requests page recently. Nominators no longer need to calculate how many "points" an article has, the instructions have been simplified, and there's a new nomination system using templates based on those used for DYK suggestions. Please consider nominating another article, or commenting on an existing nomination, and leaving some feedback on your experience. Thank you. UcuchaBot ( talk) 23:01, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Why you repeatedly erase and disturbe my edits? I can't understand the reason. Its like a harrasment for begginer like me. Please explain clearly. ~~Windersteinburg~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Windersteinburg ( talk • contribs) 03:55, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your input, it's only polite to explain why I reverted your edit. You obviously didn't use the preview button, or you would have noticed the red cite error text. The whole Freemasonry/liberalism thing is contentious, and needs counter-citations. The Catholic ban on Freemasonry wasn't universally enforced until the 1820s, and Catholics (like Karl Gotthelf von Hund) played a large part in the development of "higher degrees" after the papal ban. All this could be expanded in the history section, but is probably better placed in the History of Freemasonry article. I don't believe such material should appear in the introduction, which, according to the MOS, shouldn't really contain citations. I would welcome a chance to discuss these issues on the talk page - especially the liberal/Catholic issues which are about due for an airing. Fiddlersmouth ( talk) 22:50, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Given the publishing history outlined on your user page, you may be interested in
ORCID. ORCID is an open system of identifiers for people - particularly researchers and the authors of academic papers; but also contributors to other works, not least Wikipedia editors. ORCIDs are a bit like ISBNs for books or DOIs for papers. You can register for one, free, at
http://orcid.org and include it in your user page using {{
Authority control}} thus: {{Authority control|ORCID=0000-0001-5882-6823}}
(that template can also include other identifies, such as VIAF and LCCN - there's an example on my user page).
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:10, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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For many years of excellent expert editing on history articles. You have not only created 176 articles to date, but are a true editor. You have added many good citations to articles, improved wording and deleted superfluous text and vandalism. It has been a pleasure to work with you in the past. Donner60 ( talk) 22:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC) |
You probably have received one or more of these in the past, but even if so, you surely deserve another. Donner60 ( talk) 22:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
So, on seeing the ACW demotion to C class article on the Military Project, I checked in with an editor contributing to the consensus there who has assisted me before, AustralianRupert. I asked for some thoughts and here's what he said combined with my observations from the review.
I wonder if working up such a checklist of work-to-be-done for the talk page would help recruit an assist in these areas. --- although the article maintains an A-class rating from U.S. history, politics and African diaspora projects. Not to get defensive, but a) I crafted a couple of the introduction sections which of course can be footnoted from the citations in the following section paragraphs at each introduction,
b) of some interest on my part was the note on the See also section, which I spent some time working on to categorize and expand to the thirty-odd references. Since I last reviewed it, I thought to add a note suggesting more information could be found at the WP article series for each state and city under titles "[state/city] in the American Civil War", but that would also not be a straight alpha listing as one reviewer seems to envision. It was recently reviewed by an administrator whose only fault in it was that the link to Mexico in the American Civil War was to a subsection in the Bonito Juarez biography on Mexico in the American Civil War, not to a free standing article, something I hope to get to in the near future. and
c) mea culpa, I am one of the offending culprits supplying non-conforming footnotes, as I have yet to master the more code-laden sfn, ref name, cite book, --- I use the more open referencing, <ref>Martis, Kenneth C., "The Historical Atlas of the Congresses of the Confederate States of America: 1861–1865" Simon & Schuster (1994) ISBN 0-13-389115-1 pp.27.</ref> Another administrator suggested using a routine found in a drop-down feature, and I am exploring how to activate it on my browser. Unfortunately, none of this is intuitive for me, I am on the wrong side of the digital divide. When I figure it out, I'll be happy to return to the scene of the violations and remediate my citations, since they are taken from books in my personal library 'by and large' and any additional data can easily be supplied.
Any thoughts you have as to the editorial process and collaboration across Projects at 'American Civil War' would be appreciated. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 18:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
All the major bios refer to him as a free speech activist? freshacconci talk to me 23:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
At Talk:History of the United States, I initiated a RfC on Whether the Declaration founded a new nation in 1776 or not, two days ago. No response to date. Have I missed something?
I would have simply reverted the unsourced assertion that there was no political Union at the Declaration -- which it declares prima facie, but your edit intervened, and as I understand it, to restore the earlier text would have removed your edit.
Would it be proper procedure to revert unsourced Rmay307s edits with sourced edit from the Dept. of State Office of the Historian after -- say --- seven days of no response at the RfC? In the historiography, there is of course Richard B. Morris' advocacy of the primacy of the Union and Gary Wills recanting his assertion of the primacy of the states. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 10:58, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
nation" We still celebrate July 4 as the birthday in this part of the country. What date should be celebrated? Rjensen ( talk) 12:05, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Can you tell me please what is wrong with this professional and learned article about Harold Abrahams: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17430431003701530 -- Alexander Tendler ( talk) 12:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for deleting that template from the top of the George Washington article. I was distressed by it. I am not hesitant to admit that this is probably in part because I have unbounded admiration for Washington and am well aware of his many accomplishments and qualities. Also, I think the article needs few more footnotes, none in the lede, and that other sources can be found in the "main articles."
You added some footnotes previously but did not delete the template. That left me with the impression that you were reluctant to delete the template without the addition of more footnotes. I have added a few more footnotes in the lede and in the body. You now have relieved me from concern about adding more notes to the lede in order to drop the template. A few points in the body might still be footnoted but I am going to cease adding notes - and perhaps return to the article later only to review whether some points in the body should be footnoted. The whole exercise should have been unnecessary but I could envision the arguments some might use to support additional footnotes in the article. Thanks, again. Donner60 ( talk) 07:48, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Rjensen, could you provide me with some guidance about what to do next?
Wikipedia:Education noticeboard
Thanks Historian ( talk) 20:21, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Farmers living west of the Appalachian Mountains distilled their excess grain into whiskey... vs. Farmers living west of the Appalachian Mountains effectively "distilled their excess grain into whiskey"...
Rjensen, my point is that one can't literally make whiskey by distilling grain; you distill alcohol (along with some amount of water plus many other organic compounds that give it flavor) from a solution of fermented sugars derived from grain, to produce whiskey. Distillers grains are also produced, which can be used to feed livestock. It's the chemist in me. Bloggy's man ( talk) 19:14, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, irrespective of whether you have a COI or not, the original person to add it had some connection with whoever wrote it. Please discuss this on the talk page before adding it again. -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 19:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I read that. I think it's better to ask on the talk page. -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 19:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I have lost patience with you. I have been preserving the consensus on the Reagan lede, while you are blatantly ignoring explicit instructions that can be found on the edit page (). Look it up. It's near the very top.
You have made major new inclusions, inserted numerous grammatical / punctuation errors, insist on including events that merit barely any mention in broad discussions of Reagan's legacy, and have made the lede unwieldy and verbose. I have no responsibility to create a talk page section since I haven't added anything new. It's you who needs to create a talk page section.
I can't tell if you have legitimate trouble understanding what I'm saying or if you're being blatantly obtuse, but if you insist on your changes, create a talk discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trayvon1 ( talk • contribs) 01:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Two minor corrections: Richard Hofstadter's son's name is Dan, not Daniel. It was Hofstadter's mother, not his father, who died when Hofstadter was a child. 2601:9:7700:5EB:44C2:A462:E5F0:6E9 ( talk) 22:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
In this edit summary, you said "copyright restoration explicitly excluded Nazi materials". While this is true for works "which the restored copyright would be owned by a government or instrumentality thereof," [3] I'm not seeing any case for other works. There have been discussion on the Commons to the effect that movie posters and other artwork typically had their rights go to the creator or his heirs, which means the copyright would be restored. If the Commons discussions are wrong, please enlighten me. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 00:51, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to discuss why you felt my edit to Deism and addition of section Founding Fathers in History of Religion in the United States constituted POV. If my material was not factual and well documented from viable sources, I welcome your advice and guidance and will improve it. To omit this section leaves out an important part of American history, so let us discuss it. Seiberth ( talk) 04:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC).
Hi, I see you reversed an edit I made on the Allies of World War Two article.
The British Empire is nothing if not shades of grey. The matter of the relevance of declarations of war is not solely related to any territory of the Empire being "independent" or not, nor by the type of rule. Newfoundland was a dominion managed by local responsible government up to 1934. This ended because of economic collapse due to the depression and rule was freely handed back to Britain, which formed an interim "Commission of Government" with 3 British and 3 local appointees. Newfoundland was not "directly ruled" from Britain, nor by a "royal governor". It is generally accepted that Newfoundland declared war Sept 3.
Southern Rhodesia is another case in point. It had extensive, if still limited, self-government and its legislature voted on and declared war Sept 3. I was about to add them in, when you undid the first edit I made.
Let's split the difference and we'll keep Newfoundland out, because there was no elected legislature, but put Southern Rhodesia in because there was.
I'd like to suggest that the name United Kingdom be replaced by "British Empire and Commonwealth". Having United Kingdom in that position excludes the 400 million people on whose behalf war was declared by His Majesty's government :-)
cheers Robert -- Brukner ( talk) 07:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Can you explain, why you reverted my edits on Religion in the Netherlands. The source states that Muslims are 5.8% of the population.(See graph). Furthermore 907, 000 translates to approximately 5.8% of the population. Septate ( talk) 08:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
That is fine, I thought you were biased against Marx. I will try to make it better. Dont you think French revolution is the start of the end of Feudalism (or may be called Minarchy also) all over Europe?
Hey, the New Yorker is closely fact-checkeed so you really have no right to take my edit out. Besides, you were not at his deathbed.-- Aichik ( talk) 16:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Thought you might find my post about the New Yorker "quote" of interest. Shearonink ( talk) 16:33, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Rjensen, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, especially all your great work on articles pertaining to history, religion and politics. Keep up the good work! You're making a difference here! With regards, Anupam Talk 02:54, 26 July 2014 (UTC) |
Rjensen, I see that you have been a contributor to WikiProject Citizendium Porting. I am inclined to mark it as defunct, as there has been no work on it in a couple of years and it seems unlikely that Citizendium will be a useful source of content for Wikipedia articles in the future. Is that o.k. with you? RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:01, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
You beat me to it by about a minute -- I was about to revert with a nearly identical edit summary. -- Coemgenus ( talk) 21:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
You are right about the need for the long quotes in the introduction if all readers and editors are acting reasonably and want an accurate and focussed article. I have a recollection that we (probably I) added those because we were being criticized for not having a predicate for all of the entries about slavery or some sort of comprehensive introduction. While some of that was from the person who for reasons of pique did not like the way we were going about it, some of it also may have come from the type of person that is mucking up other articles with neo-Confederate, Lost Cause nonsense. I hope you will excuse me for not revisiting that other than by quick recollection. I just raise it in connection with saying that if that sort of unreasonable criticism or editing happens here, I wonder whether we might have to combat it by restoring the reliable historians views - not that the recent editor in other articles seems impressed with reliable sourcing. Donner60 ( talk) 08:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Leon Trotsy (or Trotskij...) was born a jew, however on his wiki page his religion is atheist, this is not true, please edit. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.199.136.97 ( talk) 10:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the support to maintain the Thomas quote at CSA, which I had initially contributed, but then I tried my hand at summarizing on the recommendation of another editor. It seemed to me very much shorter and more cogently made than the other copyedited quote blocks I made in the section, so I wondered why there was objection, but gave it a try anyway. I take your reverting my copyedit as a compliment on my earlier judgment, I trust it was not because I got the meaning wrong. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 18:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at The Establishment#United States? It looks like you've edited this section in the past. I have some significant concerns with the content (the only source is very dubious). There are some dodgy claims about CFR and the Trilateral Commission (described as "Establishment fronts"). The first paragraph is also quite suspect - at best the editor isn't clearly differentiating between past and present. Thanks, GabrielF ( talk) 21:07, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
While I don't think I have the time or energy (or perhaps the knowledge) to do this now, would you be interested in collaborating on a new section of United Kingdom in World War I that would include a regional overview and short subsections on Scotland (shorter than your current reverted contribution), Ireland (already a 175k article of its own), and room to add Wales and significantly-affected English regions, such as the North, the Midlands or the Home Counties/Greater London? As you pointed out on the UK/WW 1 talk page, the counterpart of WP:Other stuff exists applies here: just because no one's yet (to my knowledge) written a paragraph about London or Merseyside in the Great War doesn't mean we can't start with already-collected information on the Celtic fringe. Otherwise stubs would never blossom and none would dare be so bold as to begin. See Talk:History of the United Kingdom during World War I#Why is Scotland Special? Your talk page is already on my Watchlist, so no added need to visit mine. —— Shakescene ( talk) 22:42, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
The map doesn't show the diversity of ethnic & religious groups. It shows Russian imperialism which is POV. Xx236 ( talk) 05:33, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Please respond on the article talkpage.
My reading of these references do not suggest agreement and closure. Documents limiting the railway were signed, which underline the issue. Your presumption of settlement or resolution is an inference, and your reference is a simple didactic statement without content. My reference for content states "...However these agreements, at the last eleventh hour, just prior to the outbreak of the Great War, were not turned into practical actions, but remained to be unreal." These issues remained in the background, and could not have been 'resolved' by a signature, as the rivalry and the railway and its implications remained. With respect, I do not think your categorical statement is balanced, Rjenson, and contradictory revision without new reference or discussion is unjustified. The railway remained a manifestation and context of the rivalry, as evidenced by the British creation of Kuwait, the British presence in Mesopotamia during the war, and the post-war treaty which awarded the railway to Britain.
If you want to state that the railway played no part in later negotiations, please offer an explicit reference.
BCameron54 03:51, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you have been a big contributor to the Social Gospel page. I left a question about capitalization on the Talk page of that article. Just to let you know, in case you are interested. Thanks. -- Margin1522 ( talk) 20:51, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hello! I am wondering what problems you had with my edits on the Agricultural Adjustment Act. I added correct citations and corrected punctuation errors, as well as other errors (such as changing 300 billion to the correct number as cited in the original source, 3 billion). I don't see why you reverted my edits. Thanks. Johnson History202 ( talk) 02:52, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
I have a question is your proposed addition for the lead or the body of the article? (Side note I reverted your addition). -- Moxy ( talk) 17:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey Jensen—I was watching your Wikimania talk and towards the end, you mentioned being singled out by other historians as "the Wikipedia editor" in the footnotes of articles (I know how historians love their footnote wars). If you have a second, could you point me in the direction of articles that have mentioned you like this? I have database access, so I won't need much more than the titles/authors. I'm curious what they had to say. czar ? 00:14, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
"many professional historians remain skeptical about Wikipedia"are an implicit criticism of WP:CRED. I've had no success getting history professors to sign on to the Education Program despite being a history major myself. Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:26, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
What bibliography would you recommend on him? I've just started work, and I have the Stahr and Taylor bios, plus Team of Rivals plus whatever I have from the Johnson and Stevens projects. Both books and articles. I can get more,-- Wehwalt ( talk) 14:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
An alternative Confederate country flag is now displayed in the Infobox for the Confederate States Army which is repeatedly disruptive of Jefferson Davis page and other Confederate personalities. It is the “Blood Stained Banner”, the flag of the Confederacy “since 1865” as identified by the CSA, Inc. Placing this flag on historical articles is pushing that organization’s POV.
The Confederate States army served under the "First National Flag", the history article at WP should picture the flag of their time, the “First national flag with 13 stars”, File:CSA FLAG 28.11.1861-1.5.1863.svg. This flag is used in scholarship of reliable sources, building museums and battlefield parks as representing the Confederacy, 1861-1865.
The “Blood Stained Banner”, the flag of the Confederacy “since 1865” was passed as Richmond was being lost, it was never fabricated, never a part of the historical Confederacy. David Sansing, professor emeritus of history at the University of Mississippi at “Mississippi History Now”, online Mississippi Historical Society observes in his Brief history of Confederate flags, that the BSB was “unlikely” to have flown over “any Confederate troops or civilian agencies”. He quoted the author of “Confederate Military History”, General Bradley T. Johnson, “I never saw this flag, nor have I seen a man who did see it.” -- the BSB.
In contrast, Ellis Merton Coulter in his The Confederate States of America, 1861-1865 viewed June 13, 2012, published in LSU’s History of the South series, on page 118 notes that beginning in March 1861, the Stars-and-Bars was used “all over the Confederacy”.
Do you believe that this is sufficient documentation to replace the Blood-Stained-Banner in the Infobox of 'Confederate States Army'? TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 14:37, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
You did it seconds before I was using TW to undue it and add to his talk page! Alatari ( talk) 02:19, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
You made a change to the Introduction here. I've reverted it (per BRD) as I feel it misrepresents the situation. I've opened a discussion here. Regards, Xyl 54 ( talk) 00:07, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
What is your opinion of the usage of primary sources? Should primary sources be given status over
reliable secondary sources?
Also, I am having a "discussion"
[1] with another editor who has changed a sentence referenced by Mallett and Shaw
[2] to reflect, I suspect, their own personal opinion. As well as adding a journalist,
Luigi Barzini, Jr., as a source for his changes.
I would like your opinion on these matters, if you don't mind. Thank you. --
Kansas Bear (
talk) 23:05, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I'm not English-speaking. You write: You seem to have an unusual interest in the GeaCron historical atlas...is there a conflict of interest?
I created the page Geacron as a translation of the Spanish version. As it was an orphan, I have tried to link to her pages with which I estimate is directly related.
As indicated help instructions on Orphan pages, create links that suitable estimates. I'm not a very experienced user in the English wikipedia and I did not know these restrictions.
Maybe you could see if geacron.com deserves that recognition.
Celemin ( talk) 13:00, 25 March 2014 (UTC)celemin
It's Bold, Revert, Discuss, not Bold, Revert, Begin an edit war. Please self-revert and begin a discussion in Talk. Thanks! ElKevbo ( talk) 03:58, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed that in the Revision as of 03:45, 9 February 2014 of the Library of Congress article, you wrote To restore the collection in 1815, former president Thomas Jefferson sold 6,487 books, his entire personal collection, to pay his debts, but the paragraph ends as such, in a comma, and is still left that way, and I wondered if it's a typo and the sentence is meant to end, or if you forgot to finish the sentence. I tried searching from various official sources, but none of them actually explain where the debt came from, so I felt unsure to finish the sentence myself. ~ Nelg ( talk) 21:43, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
The delegation of the Dalai Lama of Tibet which went to China in 1950 apparently spoke English, as shown here. The Indian press, of course, has spoken English since British occupation. If you don't consider this information "encyclopedic", please review the citation before removing the information. I added it to the article on Zhou because it is a form of international critique of his leadership with respect to other Asian countries, and a commentary on their perception of his behavior-- that commentary happens to be in English, which may be surprising, which is why I provided a citation. It is not difficult to find ample evidence of this nickname in reliable published sources. Please have a look. Thanks! KDS4444 Talk 05:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I reverted your edit to the lead section of Aaron Swartz because the reports of how much material don't all agree. Also, it's unclear what portion of the total amount downloaded was actually at issue. So instead of a specific amount, feel free to say "a large number," which is what I did in the body of the article. See Talk:Aaron Swartz/Archive 2#Amount downloaded for where this was initially discussed, and Aaron Swartz#endnote quantity downloaded for the resulting endnote which explains. — mjb ( talk) 11:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
For the WikiProject Netherlands of which you are a member, we have started a monthly Article for improvement. I invite you to contribute to this month's article: Drenthe. – Editør ( talk) 13:39, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Just to let you know I've left a reply to your edits and the points made, here. Regards, Xyl 54 ( talk) 23:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Rjensen,
Ok. I am fine either way with the quotation. I am starting to think that if I do not source the archive document along with Barrett as the secondary, that Yopie will continue to delete it as non-notable and/or trivia. As far as I can tell from his page, all he does is delete other people's posts. I have never had a situation like this before. What do you recommend? Thank you, WildcatES. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WildcatES ( talk • contribs) 16:44, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
The files you re-added to this article have issues that need fixed. Werieth ( talk) 01:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
First off, kindly do not delete discussion tags when the discussion is still taking place. I was content to wait until you had formulated yur replies and I would appreciate the same courtesy.
Second, don’t change the text to bolster your own position when the text hasn’t been decided on yet. What part of WP:DISCUSS makes you think that is OK?
I've reverted the article to the status quo ante, where it should be 'til the matter is settled. I've also requested comments on this, as we are obviously nowhere near any agreement on the issue, or on what the article should say.
Xyl 54 (
talk) 12:35, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I have redirect that to our pre-existing article, State highways in California. In addition, I reverted the split of content from History of California 1900 to present, but removed the list of Interstate Highways from that article because we have List of state highways in California already. In the future, the article suite on California's highways may be revised to follow the structure used by Michigan (which has Michigan State Trunkline Highway System along with List of Interstate Highways in Michigan, List of U.S. Highways in Michigan, List of state trunklines in Michigan, and Michigan Heritage Route). Imzadi 1979 ? 22:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Several secondary sources towards the end of this section testify to the claim that the article subject is a descendant of the U.S. Whig Party. Personally, I think that claim is quite dubious, but how can readers evaluate it if we don't tell them what the U.S. Whig Party was?
On more procedural topics, please note WP:BRD. You were bold, I've reverted, so let's discuss. Also note per WP:V that simple lack of citations is not sufficient reason to remove material. Rather, citations are required for "any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged." Therefore, please clarify exactly what it is that you think may not be true. -- BlueMoonlet ( t/ c) 03:05, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Saw your vote on the Adrianne Wadewitz AfD. I was pleased to see your support there to keep the article and support her notability. We've spatted on articles in the past, but we are in agreement on this issue. Thanks. Montanabw (talk) 04:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
"Not surprisingly, some of those 90% are unhappy with her as we can see on this very page."I find it sad that you conflate deletion votes and male editors (both of which I represent) with some sort of anti-feminist attitudes. You can voice whatever opinion you want in regards to the NYT obit, but I think you're out of line claiming bias drives the deletion discussion. Chris Troutman ( talk) 04:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Like Montanabw (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
I suspect you have other fish to fry, and other battles to fight, but an issue that has long bothered me is the titling of articles about people who are victims of a tragedy as Suicide of Foo, Murder of Foo, Disappearance of Foo, etc. To me, if WP:GNG is met for an article to be created about that one person, then WP:BIO1E or no WP:BIO1E, the article needs to be titled with their own name, not a label, they are not the tragedy that befell them. To me, it dehumanizes them further. And such victims tend to be disproportionately women and children. Certainly some biographies probably are short enough to simply be merged into the article about the tragedy, as in AMBER alert and Amber Hagerman. But others, not so. But my pleas have fallen on deaf ears and consensus has run strongly in the other direction. Thoughts? Montanabw (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
That's a good example of WP:BIO1E, as, sadly, was Coumbine. However, I am looking more at articles like Natalee Holloway, Chandra Levy or others on individual victims of individual tragedies. Murder of Foo or Suicide of Foo is just demeaning, IMHO. After all we have Lawnchair Larry, not Flight of Lawnchair Larry. (Arguably, if the latter were used consistently, I'd have less grumbling, but I actually raised this issue once, only to have the same people argue that he was notable, but the poor kid driven to suicide was not) Montanabw (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
It is not good practice to revert multiple changes made by
another editor if you disagree with only one.
—Telpardec
TALK 08:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
I don’t mean to get abstruse on you, but I have run into pushback concerning what “contextual significance” means in WP:NFCC #8, so I would like to try out my understanding. It is currently related to an RfC but I’m not supposed to “canvass”? So this inquiry is for background information only. I may need a sort of vocabulary lesson from a friendly resource, an operative definition for use at WP.
I have uploaded File:Virginia ratification 1988 U.S. stamp.1.jpg at History of Virginia on stamps#Revolution and Constitution. The accompanying narrative begins with a description of the colonial Capitol building where the vote took place, a concrete description of the stamp’s design. But editors objecting seem to desire some sort of literary criticism of the stamps themselves for stamps which are non-free content, such as those issued by the USPS beginning 1978. But that seems to me too restrictive, and too narrowly focused on the stamp design, not the stamp itself.
From my historical background, "Contextual significance”, — which all agree is required in some sense — in this case, in my view, comes from viewing the larger cultural-historic milieu apart from the explicit significance which comes from the specific event. The explicit significance of a Ratification Convention is the approval (Virginia) or rejection (Rhode Island) of the Constitution as proposed.
The contextual significance of a Ratification Convention is the meaning of the resolution (pro or con) to the debate in other states, or to the geographic continuity of the proposed Union, or to the subsequent adoption of the Bill of Rights.
The text adjacent to the image reads, in part, from two third-party reliable sources, "Virginia was substantially the largest of the thirteen states, with territory cutting west through to the Mississippi River. Without approval of Virginia and New York which likewise cut the other state territories in two, the agreement of the others would have had little effect.[27] Virginia was home to leaders supporting the Constitution such as George Washington and James Madison, and those opposing such as Patrick Henry and George Mason. Only after a promise for a Bill of Rights did Virginia narrowly ratify.[28]”
Any one of the three, sourced from the Smithsonian’s National Postal Museum Arago, or the University Press of Kansas’ “Cradle of America” by Wallenstein, would qualify for contextual significance, in my opinion. But others not only disagree, they deny there is any "contextual significance" imparted, zero” at all. Any observation, explication or critique on “contextual significance” in this case is welcome. Thanks in advance. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 13:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed this and note how much the Spanish history was taken out..... not that there need a particular page for Spanish exploration of the SE Alaska, but..... seems like a big cut, given similar material on BC and other state pages. Skookum1 ( talk) 06:41, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Since I am not a religious person and I do not attend church, I don't know the difference between a Protestant bible and a Catholic bible. Why is a Protestant bible offensive to the Catholic faith?-- Doug Coldwell ( talk) 15:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I think comment from one of the article editors is needed here: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Jefferson Davis
Did you see this? http://www.historians.org/publications-and-directories/perspectives-on-history/may-2014/improving-wikipedia "Improving Wikipedia: Notes from an Informed Skeptic" czar ? 07:06, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, for letting me know, and for updating a number of these.
I'd tagged them as 'wrong license' or 'NFUR not needed' PRECISELY BECAUSE they were when tagged wrongly labelled.
If the concern was about the use of F4, then please state which images were of concern. Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 10:50, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
As you seem to be more experienced, perhaps you could cast a cautious over these with a view to 'rescuing' some of them? Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 12:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Saw your edit at the CSA page. I hadn't questioned that passage previously, mostly because I have no idea what an exequatur is, or what it has to do with recognition. The passage did include a link to a report by the Confederate secretary of state, in which the request for an exequatur is mentioned, so I figured: Well, it's cited, at least. But with that said -- after noticing your change, and reviewing the original citation, I went poking around for more context. Apparently the text of the request expressly denied any recognition to the Confederate government. Moreover, the Confederacy allowed previously-granted exequaturs to remain in force from nations like Britain and France, who clearly did not recognize the Confederacy.
Long story short: It looks to me like there was an exequatur request, but that it's irrelevant to questions of recognition, and thus shouldn't be in the article.
Short story shorter: Good edit, thanks for improving the article. :) Rob ( talk) 15:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
There is a discussion at the Biographies of living persons noticeboard about this article, which you edited today. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:22, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Rjensen!
First, thank you for your edits on this article. I'm very sorry I have reverted some of them, and I'd certainly like the opportunity to explain why (as is only polite). Firstly, please do not think this a page-ownership thing - I'm very aware that some of the phrasing is not great - but can you leave the older text out please? In many respects it is inaccurate and the references, where available, are wrong or vague. I personally also found it a bit POV heavy too. And can you use the template:sfn format, per the rest of the article, if you add more? It's a GAN, though, so if you'd like to do the review and ask for certain omissions to be remedied, you'd be more than welcome to take it on as reviewer!
Thanks! Brigade Piron ( talk) 22:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
This is a note to let the main editors of Jefferson Davis know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on June 3, 2014. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at present, please ask Bencherlite ( talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 3, 2014. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:
Jefferson Davis (1808–1889) was President of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War. Born in Kentucky, he graduated from the U.S. Military Academy and had a career as a soldier, fighting in the Mexican–American War. As a plantation owner, he employed slave labor as did many of his peers in the South, and supported slavery. He served as Secretary of War and U.S. senator, arguing against secession, but agreeing that each state had the right to secede. At the beginning of the Civil War in 1861, Davis was chosen as President of the Confederate States. He took personal charge of the Confederate war plans but was unable to defeat the larger, more powerful and better organized Union. He is often blamed for contributing to the fall of the Confederacy. His diplomatic efforts failed to gain recognition from any foreign country and he paid little attention to the collapsing economy. At the end of the war in 1865, he was captured and imprisoned; after his release he entered private life. He wrote a memoir, The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government, eventually became a Civil War hero to many white Southerners and, in later life, encouraged reconciliation with the North. ( Full article...)
You (and your talk-page stalkers) may also be interested to hear that there have been some changes at the TFA requests page recently. Nominators no longer need to calculate how many "points" an article has, the instructions have been simplified, and there's a new nomination system using templates based on those used for DYK suggestions. Please consider nominating another article, or commenting on an existing nomination, and leaving some feedback on your experience. Thank you. UcuchaBot ( talk) 23:01, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Why you repeatedly erase and disturbe my edits? I can't understand the reason. Its like a harrasment for begginer like me. Please explain clearly. ~~Windersteinburg~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Windersteinburg ( talk • contribs) 03:55, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your input, it's only polite to explain why I reverted your edit. You obviously didn't use the preview button, or you would have noticed the red cite error text. The whole Freemasonry/liberalism thing is contentious, and needs counter-citations. The Catholic ban on Freemasonry wasn't universally enforced until the 1820s, and Catholics (like Karl Gotthelf von Hund) played a large part in the development of "higher degrees" after the papal ban. All this could be expanded in the history section, but is probably better placed in the History of Freemasonry article. I don't believe such material should appear in the introduction, which, according to the MOS, shouldn't really contain citations. I would welcome a chance to discuss these issues on the talk page - especially the liberal/Catholic issues which are about due for an airing. Fiddlersmouth ( talk) 22:50, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Given the publishing history outlined on your user page, you may be interested in
ORCID. ORCID is an open system of identifiers for people - particularly researchers and the authors of academic papers; but also contributors to other works, not least Wikipedia editors. ORCIDs are a bit like ISBNs for books or DOIs for papers. You can register for one, free, at
http://orcid.org and include it in your user page using {{
Authority control}} thus: {{Authority control|ORCID=0000-0001-5882-6823}}
(that template can also include other identifies, such as VIAF and LCCN - there's an example on my user page).
Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:10, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
The Editor's Barnstar | ||
For many years of excellent expert editing on history articles. You have not only created 176 articles to date, but are a true editor. You have added many good citations to articles, improved wording and deleted superfluous text and vandalism. It has been a pleasure to work with you in the past. Donner60 ( talk) 22:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC) |
You probably have received one or more of these in the past, but even if so, you surely deserve another. Donner60 ( talk) 22:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
So, on seeing the ACW demotion to C class article on the Military Project, I checked in with an editor contributing to the consensus there who has assisted me before, AustralianRupert. I asked for some thoughts and here's what he said combined with my observations from the review.
I wonder if working up such a checklist of work-to-be-done for the talk page would help recruit an assist in these areas. --- although the article maintains an A-class rating from U.S. history, politics and African diaspora projects. Not to get defensive, but a) I crafted a couple of the introduction sections which of course can be footnoted from the citations in the following section paragraphs at each introduction,
b) of some interest on my part was the note on the See also section, which I spent some time working on to categorize and expand to the thirty-odd references. Since I last reviewed it, I thought to add a note suggesting more information could be found at the WP article series for each state and city under titles "[state/city] in the American Civil War", but that would also not be a straight alpha listing as one reviewer seems to envision. It was recently reviewed by an administrator whose only fault in it was that the link to Mexico in the American Civil War was to a subsection in the Bonito Juarez biography on Mexico in the American Civil War, not to a free standing article, something I hope to get to in the near future. and
c) mea culpa, I am one of the offending culprits supplying non-conforming footnotes, as I have yet to master the more code-laden sfn, ref name, cite book, --- I use the more open referencing, <ref>Martis, Kenneth C., "The Historical Atlas of the Congresses of the Confederate States of America: 1861–1865" Simon & Schuster (1994) ISBN 0-13-389115-1 pp.27.</ref> Another administrator suggested using a routine found in a drop-down feature, and I am exploring how to activate it on my browser. Unfortunately, none of this is intuitive for me, I am on the wrong side of the digital divide. When I figure it out, I'll be happy to return to the scene of the violations and remediate my citations, since they are taken from books in my personal library 'by and large' and any additional data can easily be supplied.
Any thoughts you have as to the editorial process and collaboration across Projects at 'American Civil War' would be appreciated. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 18:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
All the major bios refer to him as a free speech activist? freshacconci talk to me 23:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
At Talk:History of the United States, I initiated a RfC on Whether the Declaration founded a new nation in 1776 or not, two days ago. No response to date. Have I missed something?
I would have simply reverted the unsourced assertion that there was no political Union at the Declaration -- which it declares prima facie, but your edit intervened, and as I understand it, to restore the earlier text would have removed your edit.
Would it be proper procedure to revert unsourced Rmay307s edits with sourced edit from the Dept. of State Office of the Historian after -- say --- seven days of no response at the RfC? In the historiography, there is of course Richard B. Morris' advocacy of the primacy of the Union and Gary Wills recanting his assertion of the primacy of the states. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 10:58, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
nation" We still celebrate July 4 as the birthday in this part of the country. What date should be celebrated? Rjensen ( talk) 12:05, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Can you tell me please what is wrong with this professional and learned article about Harold Abrahams: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17430431003701530 -- Alexander Tendler ( talk) 12:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for deleting that template from the top of the George Washington article. I was distressed by it. I am not hesitant to admit that this is probably in part because I have unbounded admiration for Washington and am well aware of his many accomplishments and qualities. Also, I think the article needs few more footnotes, none in the lede, and that other sources can be found in the "main articles."
You added some footnotes previously but did not delete the template. That left me with the impression that you were reluctant to delete the template without the addition of more footnotes. I have added a few more footnotes in the lede and in the body. You now have relieved me from concern about adding more notes to the lede in order to drop the template. A few points in the body might still be footnoted but I am going to cease adding notes - and perhaps return to the article later only to review whether some points in the body should be footnoted. The whole exercise should have been unnecessary but I could envision the arguments some might use to support additional footnotes in the article. Thanks, again. Donner60 ( talk) 07:48, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Rjensen, could you provide me with some guidance about what to do next?
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Farmers living west of the Appalachian Mountains distilled their excess grain into whiskey... vs. Farmers living west of the Appalachian Mountains effectively "distilled their excess grain into whiskey"...
Rjensen, my point is that one can't literally make whiskey by distilling grain; you distill alcohol (along with some amount of water plus many other organic compounds that give it flavor) from a solution of fermented sugars derived from grain, to produce whiskey. Distillers grains are also produced, which can be used to feed livestock. It's the chemist in me. Bloggy's man ( talk) 19:14, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, irrespective of whether you have a COI or not, the original person to add it had some connection with whoever wrote it. Please discuss this on the talk page before adding it again. -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 19:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I read that. I think it's better to ask on the talk page. -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 19:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I have lost patience with you. I have been preserving the consensus on the Reagan lede, while you are blatantly ignoring explicit instructions that can be found on the edit page (). Look it up. It's near the very top.
You have made major new inclusions, inserted numerous grammatical / punctuation errors, insist on including events that merit barely any mention in broad discussions of Reagan's legacy, and have made the lede unwieldy and verbose. I have no responsibility to create a talk page section since I haven't added anything new. It's you who needs to create a talk page section.
I can't tell if you have legitimate trouble understanding what I'm saying or if you're being blatantly obtuse, but if you insist on your changes, create a talk discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trayvon1 ( talk • contribs) 01:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Two minor corrections: Richard Hofstadter's son's name is Dan, not Daniel. It was Hofstadter's mother, not his father, who died when Hofstadter was a child. 2601:9:7700:5EB:44C2:A462:E5F0:6E9 ( talk) 22:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
In this edit summary, you said "copyright restoration explicitly excluded Nazi materials". While this is true for works "which the restored copyright would be owned by a government or instrumentality thereof," [3] I'm not seeing any case for other works. There have been discussion on the Commons to the effect that movie posters and other artwork typically had their rights go to the creator or his heirs, which means the copyright would be restored. If the Commons discussions are wrong, please enlighten me. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 00:51, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to discuss why you felt my edit to Deism and addition of section Founding Fathers in History of Religion in the United States constituted POV. If my material was not factual and well documented from viable sources, I welcome your advice and guidance and will improve it. To omit this section leaves out an important part of American history, so let us discuss it. Seiberth ( talk) 04:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC).
Hi, I see you reversed an edit I made on the Allies of World War Two article.
The British Empire is nothing if not shades of grey. The matter of the relevance of declarations of war is not solely related to any territory of the Empire being "independent" or not, nor by the type of rule. Newfoundland was a dominion managed by local responsible government up to 1934. This ended because of economic collapse due to the depression and rule was freely handed back to Britain, which formed an interim "Commission of Government" with 3 British and 3 local appointees. Newfoundland was not "directly ruled" from Britain, nor by a "royal governor". It is generally accepted that Newfoundland declared war Sept 3.
Southern Rhodesia is another case in point. It had extensive, if still limited, self-government and its legislature voted on and declared war Sept 3. I was about to add them in, when you undid the first edit I made.
Let's split the difference and we'll keep Newfoundland out, because there was no elected legislature, but put Southern Rhodesia in because there was.
I'd like to suggest that the name United Kingdom be replaced by "British Empire and Commonwealth". Having United Kingdom in that position excludes the 400 million people on whose behalf war was declared by His Majesty's government :-)
cheers Robert -- Brukner ( talk) 07:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Can you explain, why you reverted my edits on Religion in the Netherlands. The source states that Muslims are 5.8% of the population.(See graph). Furthermore 907, 000 translates to approximately 5.8% of the population. Septate ( talk) 08:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
That is fine, I thought you were biased against Marx. I will try to make it better. Dont you think French revolution is the start of the end of Feudalism (or may be called Minarchy also) all over Europe?
Hey, the New Yorker is closely fact-checkeed so you really have no right to take my edit out. Besides, you were not at his deathbed.-- Aichik ( talk) 16:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Thought you might find my post about the New Yorker "quote" of interest. Shearonink ( talk) 16:33, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Rjensen, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, especially all your great work on articles pertaining to history, religion and politics. Keep up the good work! You're making a difference here! With regards, Anupam Talk 02:54, 26 July 2014 (UTC) |
Rjensen, I see that you have been a contributor to WikiProject Citizendium Porting. I am inclined to mark it as defunct, as there has been no work on it in a couple of years and it seems unlikely that Citizendium will be a useful source of content for Wikipedia articles in the future. Is that o.k. with you? RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:01, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
You beat me to it by about a minute -- I was about to revert with a nearly identical edit summary. -- Coemgenus ( talk) 21:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
You are right about the need for the long quotes in the introduction if all readers and editors are acting reasonably and want an accurate and focussed article. I have a recollection that we (probably I) added those because we were being criticized for not having a predicate for all of the entries about slavery or some sort of comprehensive introduction. While some of that was from the person who for reasons of pique did not like the way we were going about it, some of it also may have come from the type of person that is mucking up other articles with neo-Confederate, Lost Cause nonsense. I hope you will excuse me for not revisiting that other than by quick recollection. I just raise it in connection with saying that if that sort of unreasonable criticism or editing happens here, I wonder whether we might have to combat it by restoring the reliable historians views - not that the recent editor in other articles seems impressed with reliable sourcing. Donner60 ( talk) 08:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Leon Trotsy (or Trotskij...) was born a jew, however on his wiki page his religion is atheist, this is not true, please edit. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.199.136.97 ( talk) 10:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the support to maintain the Thomas quote at CSA, which I had initially contributed, but then I tried my hand at summarizing on the recommendation of another editor. It seemed to me very much shorter and more cogently made than the other copyedited quote blocks I made in the section, so I wondered why there was objection, but gave it a try anyway. I take your reverting my copyedit as a compliment on my earlier judgment, I trust it was not because I got the meaning wrong. TheVirginiaHistorian ( talk) 18:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at The Establishment#United States? It looks like you've edited this section in the past. I have some significant concerns with the content (the only source is very dubious). There are some dodgy claims about CFR and the Trilateral Commission (described as "Establishment fronts"). The first paragraph is also quite suspect - at best the editor isn't clearly differentiating between past and present. Thanks, GabrielF ( talk) 21:07, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
While I don't think I have the time or energy (or perhaps the knowledge) to do this now, would you be interested in collaborating on a new section of United Kingdom in World War I that would include a regional overview and short subsections on Scotland (shorter than your current reverted contribution), Ireland (already a 175k article of its own), and room to add Wales and significantly-affected English regions, such as the North, the Midlands or the Home Counties/Greater London? As you pointed out on the UK/WW 1 talk page, the counterpart of WP:Other stuff exists applies here: just because no one's yet (to my knowledge) written a paragraph about London or Merseyside in the Great War doesn't mean we can't start with already-collected information on the Celtic fringe. Otherwise stubs would never blossom and none would dare be so bold as to begin. See Talk:History of the United Kingdom during World War I#Why is Scotland Special? Your talk page is already on my Watchlist, so no added need to visit mine. —— Shakescene ( talk) 22:42, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
The map doesn't show the diversity of ethnic & religious groups. It shows Russian imperialism which is POV. Xx236 ( talk) 05:33, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Please respond on the article talkpage.
My reading of these references do not suggest agreement and closure. Documents limiting the railway were signed, which underline the issue. Your presumption of settlement or resolution is an inference, and your reference is a simple didactic statement without content. My reference for content states "...However these agreements, at the last eleventh hour, just prior to the outbreak of the Great War, were not turned into practical actions, but remained to be unreal." These issues remained in the background, and could not have been 'resolved' by a signature, as the rivalry and the railway and its implications remained. With respect, I do not think your categorical statement is balanced, Rjenson, and contradictory revision without new reference or discussion is unjustified. The railway remained a manifestation and context of the rivalry, as evidenced by the British creation of Kuwait, the British presence in Mesopotamia during the war, and the post-war treaty which awarded the railway to Britain.
If you want to state that the railway played no part in later negotiations, please offer an explicit reference.
BCameron54 03:51, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you have been a big contributor to the Social Gospel page. I left a question about capitalization on the Talk page of that article. Just to let you know, in case you are interested. Thanks. -- Margin1522 ( talk) 20:51, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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