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Kyoto protocol update

I heard you know how to edit maps. I don't. The Kyoto protocol map has not been updated in over two years, and it's really getting on my nerves. Could you update it or tell me how to do it. Thank you for your time. Scorpions13256 ( talk) 19:04, 4 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Scorpions13256, Which map are you referring to specifically, and what updates would you like to add? -- Ratherous ( talk) 02:00, 5 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks

I was reverting the IP. ‐‐ 1997kB ( talk) 11:23, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi, just a quick reminder to make sure you update the 'as of' date in the infobox when you update the map. — Smjg ( talk) 11:57, 5 March 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Ratherous: Have you still not seen this message? — Smjg ( talk) 01:12, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Hi, sorry I have not. Which infobox are you referring to? -- Ratherous ( talk) 02:08, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply
The one at the top of the article, with that map in.
As a side note, I think we need a new colour for 10000+. China has been in that category for a long time, and a few other countries are now coming close. — Smjg ( talk) 13:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Isn’t the as of date marked with the today template that automatically updates the map? Why would I need to change it manually? -- Ratherous ( talk) 16:39, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Extra color for 50,000?

Can you add a new color?

  50000+ Confirmed cases
  10000-49999 Confirmed cases
  1000-9999 Confirmed cases
  100-999 Confirmed cases
  10-99 Confirmed cases
  1-9 Confirmed cases

Now that 4 countries (China, Italy, USA, and Spain) have above 50,000 it makes sense to add a new color. Humiebees ( talk) 23:12, 27 March 2020 (UTC) reply

LGBT in Gabon

Hi. Could you justify your addition of Gabon to the Africa map? You didn't say anything on the talk page, and according to our LGBT in Gabon article, there's no evidence the law has been applied, which would mean the country might should be yellow, not orange. — kwami ( talk) 09:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi, the law is very new, so I think it would be inappropriate of us to automatically assume it was passed to simply be an inactive piece of legislation. I believe that until there is further evidence showing that the law has not been applied for a long period of time, then Gabon should definitely be coloured yellow instead of orange. -- Ratherous ( talk) 05:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Kwamikagami:, Hi I'm not sure if you saw my response, but I just saw that you changed Gabon to yellow anyway. Could you explain your reasoning for that? Do you have evidence that the new law was approved without the intention of being applied? -- Ratherous ( talk) 07:04, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Ratherous. According to the latest refs in our article, the law hasn't been implemented yet. It would be CRYSTAL to assume it will be. (Though of course by now it very likely has been, if we can find a ref.) Also, we use yellow for countries that haven't imprisoned anyone in the past 3 years. That convention was based on existing laws, of course, not new ones, but has anyone even been charged yet? We could also leave the country grey until we have a RS that the law is actually in force. It's just a bit weird to color Gabon for imprisoning people when it hasn't happened and we don't even know that it would be legal to do so. — kwami ( talk) 07:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Kwamikagami:, I think colouring it grey should definitely be out of the question as the law is already on the books, and after looking around I found this source saying two men have already been arrested [1]. Let me know what you think. -- Ratherous ( talk) 07:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

LGBT rights in Myanmar and Ethiopia

Hello,

the criminal law against same-sexual activity is still enforced in Myanmar according to this article and this homosexuality map should reflect it. One enforcement of the law cited is from 2018. I'm also notifying User:Kwamikagami, User:Kaleetan and User:Fenetrejones by simple mentioning.

I also wonder whether the criminal law of Ethiopia against homosexuality is no longer enforced even though it was removed in March 2019 from the list of pardonable offenses, which points towards the opposite as I think. In this Medium article from 2020, the Ethiopian author states that the threat of imprisonment, which means the application of the law, still goes on or can be perceived. In another report from 2015, it said however that the law was generally not enforced.

Please review whether Antarctica can be removed from the map because it is not needed in any way.

Please reassess whether it is always found out correctly that there were no prosecutions. Some countries or regions of countries issue prosecution reports with the numbers of reports and likely subsequent prosecutions. Only for the reason that a prosecution has not become public, it does not mean at all that there had not been any prosecutions. I am currently not sure about editing SVG files and the topic can at times be in some ways difficult to deal with, considering such laws. HeliosX ( talk) 02:36, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply

In yellow countries, people may live in fear of arrest or imprisonment -- the fact that a law hasn't been enforced for a while doesn't mean it can't be enforced tomorrow, and the police may use that fear to extort money from people. But orange means actual prison. I added stripes for cases where people are being arrested but not prosecuted. In the case of Burma, his employee changed him with assault. That's a different issue, even if the law involved is the same. We can't include every nuance of the law on a simple map. If people are not being arrested, prosecuted or imprisoned for consensual sex, then IMO the country should remain yellow.
If you have any evidence for enforcement in Ethiopia, please let us know. — kwami ( talk) 04:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply

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Switzerland Marriage Equality

Until enough signatures are turned in to force a referendum, marriage equality is scheduled to occur on a specific day, which counts as being listed with an asterisk. If the referendum is guaranteed, then it should be removed from the template. Naraht ( talk) 11:50, 29 December 2020 (UTC) reply

It actually can't be confirmed because the legislation allows a period of 100 days where it becomes a question of whether or not the next step will be applicable, menaing the legislation process has not yet ended. The template shouldn't rush into predicting the turnout of the process per WP:CRYSTAL. -- Ratherous ( talk) 23:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC) reply
Also I was just curious what was the specific date? I just personally haven't seen any articles confirming a date. -- Ratherous ( talk) 23:45, 29 December 2020 (UTC) reply
What specific date? The date that it passed? Also, just edited the talk page for the Template on the issue, quoted from a few relevant articles. Naraht ( talk) 02:27, 30 December 2020 (UTC) reply
No, you said there was a specific date for marriage equality to be in effect, what is that date? -- Ratherous ( talk) 06:28, 30 December 2020 (UTC) reply

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Welcome!

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You may also want to complete the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit the Teahouse to ask questions or seek help.

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 13:39, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Kyoto protocol update

I heard you know how to edit maps. I don't. The Kyoto protocol map has not been updated in over two years, and it's really getting on my nerves. Could you update it or tell me how to do it. Thank you for your time. Scorpions13256 ( talk) 19:04, 4 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Scorpions13256, Which map are you referring to specifically, and what updates would you like to add? -- Ratherous ( talk) 02:00, 5 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks

I was reverting the IP. ‐‐ 1997kB ( talk) 11:23, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi, just a quick reminder to make sure you update the 'as of' date in the infobox when you update the map. — Smjg ( talk) 11:57, 5 March 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Ratherous: Have you still not seen this message? — Smjg ( talk) 01:12, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Hi, sorry I have not. Which infobox are you referring to? -- Ratherous ( talk) 02:08, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply
The one at the top of the article, with that map in.
As a side note, I think we need a new colour for 10000+. China has been in that category for a long time, and a few other countries are now coming close. — Smjg ( talk) 13:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Isn’t the as of date marked with the today template that automatically updates the map? Why would I need to change it manually? -- Ratherous ( talk) 16:39, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Extra color for 50,000?

Can you add a new color?

  50000+ Confirmed cases
  10000-49999 Confirmed cases
  1000-9999 Confirmed cases
  100-999 Confirmed cases
  10-99 Confirmed cases
  1-9 Confirmed cases

Now that 4 countries (China, Italy, USA, and Spain) have above 50,000 it makes sense to add a new color. Humiebees ( talk) 23:12, 27 March 2020 (UTC) reply

LGBT in Gabon

Hi. Could you justify your addition of Gabon to the Africa map? You didn't say anything on the talk page, and according to our LGBT in Gabon article, there's no evidence the law has been applied, which would mean the country might should be yellow, not orange. — kwami ( talk) 09:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi, the law is very new, so I think it would be inappropriate of us to automatically assume it was passed to simply be an inactive piece of legislation. I believe that until there is further evidence showing that the law has not been applied for a long period of time, then Gabon should definitely be coloured yellow instead of orange. -- Ratherous ( talk) 05:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Kwamikagami:, Hi I'm not sure if you saw my response, but I just saw that you changed Gabon to yellow anyway. Could you explain your reasoning for that? Do you have evidence that the new law was approved without the intention of being applied? -- Ratherous ( talk) 07:04, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Ratherous. According to the latest refs in our article, the law hasn't been implemented yet. It would be CRYSTAL to assume it will be. (Though of course by now it very likely has been, if we can find a ref.) Also, we use yellow for countries that haven't imprisoned anyone in the past 3 years. That convention was based on existing laws, of course, not new ones, but has anyone even been charged yet? We could also leave the country grey until we have a RS that the law is actually in force. It's just a bit weird to color Gabon for imprisoning people when it hasn't happened and we don't even know that it would be legal to do so. — kwami ( talk) 07:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Kwamikagami:, I think colouring it grey should definitely be out of the question as the law is already on the books, and after looking around I found this source saying two men have already been arrested [1]. Let me know what you think. -- Ratherous ( talk) 07:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

LGBT rights in Myanmar and Ethiopia

Hello,

the criminal law against same-sexual activity is still enforced in Myanmar according to this article and this homosexuality map should reflect it. One enforcement of the law cited is from 2018. I'm also notifying User:Kwamikagami, User:Kaleetan and User:Fenetrejones by simple mentioning.

I also wonder whether the criminal law of Ethiopia against homosexuality is no longer enforced even though it was removed in March 2019 from the list of pardonable offenses, which points towards the opposite as I think. In this Medium article from 2020, the Ethiopian author states that the threat of imprisonment, which means the application of the law, still goes on or can be perceived. In another report from 2015, it said however that the law was generally not enforced.

Please review whether Antarctica can be removed from the map because it is not needed in any way.

Please reassess whether it is always found out correctly that there were no prosecutions. Some countries or regions of countries issue prosecution reports with the numbers of reports and likely subsequent prosecutions. Only for the reason that a prosecution has not become public, it does not mean at all that there had not been any prosecutions. I am currently not sure about editing SVG files and the topic can at times be in some ways difficult to deal with, considering such laws. HeliosX ( talk) 02:36, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply

In yellow countries, people may live in fear of arrest or imprisonment -- the fact that a law hasn't been enforced for a while doesn't mean it can't be enforced tomorrow, and the police may use that fear to extort money from people. But orange means actual prison. I added stripes for cases where people are being arrested but not prosecuted. In the case of Burma, his employee changed him with assault. That's a different issue, even if the law involved is the same. We can't include every nuance of the law on a simple map. If people are not being arrested, prosecuted or imprisoned for consensual sex, then IMO the country should remain yellow.
If you have any evidence for enforcement in Ethiopia, please let us know. — kwami ( talk) 04:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply

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Switzerland Marriage Equality

Until enough signatures are turned in to force a referendum, marriage equality is scheduled to occur on a specific day, which counts as being listed with an asterisk. If the referendum is guaranteed, then it should be removed from the template. Naraht ( talk) 11:50, 29 December 2020 (UTC) reply

It actually can't be confirmed because the legislation allows a period of 100 days where it becomes a question of whether or not the next step will be applicable, menaing the legislation process has not yet ended. The template shouldn't rush into predicting the turnout of the process per WP:CRYSTAL. -- Ratherous ( talk) 23:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC) reply
Also I was just curious what was the specific date? I just personally haven't seen any articles confirming a date. -- Ratherous ( talk) 23:45, 29 December 2020 (UTC) reply
What specific date? The date that it passed? Also, just edited the talk page for the Template on the issue, quoted from a few relevant articles. Naraht ( talk) 02:27, 30 December 2020 (UTC) reply
No, you said there was a specific date for marriage equality to be in effect, what is that date? -- Ratherous ( talk) 06:28, 30 December 2020 (UTC) reply

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