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Pigsonthewing, sorry about our disagreements over " You in Your Small Corner"‎, but you touched a raw nerve. I have raised my concerns over terminology before, in greater detail than on the talk page. See my comments in Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#When is a (TV) film not a film?. Unfortunately, it has not gained a response, so I would appreciate a second opinion, if you are so minded. Philip Cross ( talk) 16:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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I am enjoying this. Shedsue ( talk) 14:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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hola how are you? Parquesol ( talk) 15:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

hello

Hi Andy! Drwgovier ( talk) 15:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you so much for teaching an old dogs a new trick. Marjorie Yvonne Eckersley ( talk) 15:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Andy, Thanks for all the help today at the intro to Wikipedia held here at Manchester Library Media Lounge. SoundFlyer 15:59, 21 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SoundFlyer ( talk • contribs)

Please see discussion of "Does the current text of WP:BIDIRECTIONAL have broad consensus?" at Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#WP:BIDIRECTIONAL navbox requirements. Montanabw ^(talk) 01:41, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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St Cecilia's Day

A Boy was Born

Music in your ears and heart! (in a box) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:05, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #114

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • New request for comments: Improve bot policy for data import and data modification
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Upcoming: Ubuntu Party, Paris
  • Upcoming: Wikidata editathon, National Library of Wales
  • More mixin’, more matches
  • Impact of Wikimania Mexico 2015 on Wikidata
  • Myanmar coordinates on Wikidata by Lockal & Widar
  • Tasty translations for the Taste of Stockholm food festival
  • Bachelor thesis about generating quiz questions from Wikidata
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Mix'n'match: new catalogs were added
  • Whitepaper for GLAM institutions wanting to work with Wikdiata
  • MediaWiki, Meta, Wikispecies and Wikinews will get access to the data on Wikidata on Dec. 2nd. (So far they only have access to sitelinks.)
  • What kind of information does Wikidata have? Jura made an overview for the types of statements we have.
  • You can now use SPARQL instead of WDQ for all Listeria bot-generated lists, on all wikis. See en:Template:Wikidata list
  • Alpha release of Wikipedia Gender Inequality Index (using data from Wikidata)
  • Query examples: all xkcd comics, English demonyms for countries
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Cycling Archives ID (team), Cycling Archives ID (race), antagonist muscle, ProCyclingStats ID (team), ProCyclingStats ID (race), GNS Unique Feature Identifier, mean anomaly, quantity buried, Swedish Olympic Committee athlete ID, article ID, general classification, aftershocks, elector, debut participant, call sign, constraint status, comment, min quantity, max quantity, max date, min date, relation, class, namespace, property, item, group by, exception to constraint, property constraint, minimal lethal dose
• Development
  • Rolled out simultaneous editing of main part of the statement and reference
  • Did a clean-up of the statements section (removing some lines etc) and added icons for the actions on statements
  • Worked more on moving identifiers into their own section in item pages and having them linked properly in the exports
  • Work on improving ranking of search results on Wikidata
  • Decreased size of html of item pages
  • Adapted our code to some minor changes in the watchlist code in core
  • More work on making the search on mobile work
  • Made preparations for constraint definitions through statements on properties
  • Fixing size of table of content on mobile
  • Prevented merging of items which link to each other
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 19:28, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

20:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Is an active project, somewhat slow and lame compared to the milhist or ships projects, but...

To go into a project and change an image without discussion at the project page is a bit... for an ed of your length of time and edit count

This is what I said at the template page (where you explain removing an image): -

WP:IDONTLIKEIT of a single editor is not a consensual decision for a project and how it is portrayed - there is no precedent for a single editor to provide a personal way to understand taste/preference - a discussion (or for that matter a check at the death project where this has been through before) is better first

I am sure I have briefly encountered you at a wikimania in the past, you probably dont remember me, but, for whatever sakes, please take a conversation to the death project Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Death - best way to do it mate

JarrahTree 00:32, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

You demonstrate a lamentable lack of awareness of Wikipedia polices and the underpinning "5 pillars". And I'd already stared a talk page discussion, before the duplicate to which you link. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. at least we have just a template image difference of opinion - have a thought for the orkneyians at /info/en/?search=Category_talk:Orcadian_Wikipedians JarrahTree 23:32, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Andy,

Sorry to bother you so early. I just forgot to mention that, if you are still in Manchester, perhaps you would like to see the exhibition in the Whitworth Art Gallery by Cornelia Parker. She made a tapestry about the Magna Carta taking as model the Wikipedia page. I went to see it and I think is worthy.

Just another way in which Wikipedia is influential.

Once again, thank you so much for the course today. It was amazing.

Regards

Miriam Parquesol ( talk) 22:08, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

@ Parquesol: Thank you. Sadly I was too late to see it, but I hope to in future. I'm glad you enjoyed the event. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:35, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Can I get some input from you, please, on Template:Ukrsrow and the state of UK railway stations – D et al.

I amended UK railway stations – C to use Template:Ukrsrow (based on awesome regex-fu, fwiw ... how are you getting on with that?). And that worked fine, as it does for Stations A & B

But UK railway stations – D and probably others have stations which have no postcode nor station TLA ... and in some cases, have ad hoc links to a map and a timetable - see Dduallt railway station in the list.

Template:Ukrsrow is designed to handle the presence or absence of a postcode and/or of a TLA. Not designed to handle ad hoc values (e.g. a Template:Coord for the map and URLs for station details and station timetables). Were Template:Ukrsrow to be amended so that it could cope with these additional values, then I could continue on & amend all pages a) without information loss and b) such that other later can add stations for which we have no postcode but do have a location.

Right direction / worth doing? And how is your template-fu? Might you be inclined to get involved? -- Tagishsimon (talk) 21:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

@ Tagishsimon: Belated reply, sorry.

I would first create new version of {{ Ukrsrow}}, which takes coordinates, using {{ Coord}}, instead of postcodes. This template should call data from Wikidata. It could also include columns for a thumbnail image, commons category link, etc. And it could cater for exceptions such as you mention, if there are a significant number of them (otherwise, their rows could still use raw table markup).

Some of the exceptions should be moved to List of heritage railway stations in the United Kingdom (or deleted, if already there, as Dduallt is).

Then, request a bot to do the template conversions.

Finally, the original {{ Ukrsrow}} would be deleted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid your comment "restore; to avoid being archived" makes no sense to me. How would it be archived? Can you elaborate? Thanks. Protopone primigena ( talk) 22:15, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Talk page comments get archived, banners do not. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Ok. I understand your comment now, but that does not justify having any such message or link. Protopone primigena ( talk) 23:48, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Indeed not. The message is justified by the fact that one of our fellow editors is in imminent danger of death. Yet you have edit warred to remove it. Such action is unjustified, and vile. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:18, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

If you would like to discuss it reasonably, please start a discussion on the article talk page. Protopone primigena ( talk) 14:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Open request for adminship: Koavf
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Past: Wikipedia and Wikidata editathon (EditatónAlicia) in Mexico
  • Past: Wikimedia Conferentie Nederland
  • Past: Wikidata Editathon at the National Library of Wales
  • Past: Ubuntu Conference, Paris
  • Is Wikidata the new Rosetta Stone?
  • WordLift 3.0: A brief semantic story – part 1
  • Workshop i Wikidata
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Your help is needed with the most important constraint violations.
  • New daily report on Mix'n'match
  • Daily updated list of people who's birthday is today
  • French Wikisource is using images from Wikidata for their author page headers and more now ( example)
  • New catalogs have been added to Mix'n'match
  • A new author language game has been added to the Wikidata distributed game.
  • Mix’n’match now creates a new, pre-filled Wikidata item when no matching one can be found (by humans!), where possible
  • Workflow sketch for the OA Signalling project
  • example of a Listeria list created from a SPARQL query
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Australian Stratigraphic Units Database ID, Roman agnomen, Roman cognomen, production code, NMHH film rating, time to altitude, online service, intended public, Roman nomen gentilicium, Roman praenomen, Classification of Instructional Programs code, UNESCO endangered language ID, has list, statistical unit, applies to taxon, number of graves, Speedskatingbase.eu ID, Stuttgart Database of Scientific Illustrators ID, period, YSO ID, Elonet movie ID, AGORHA event identifier, AGORHA work ID, playing range image, AGORHA person/institution ID, indigenous to, CESAR person ID, BoardGameGeek ID, Musopen composer ID, SFDb-identifier of group, SFDb-identifier of soundtrack, SFDb-identifier of company, SFDb movie ID, Norwegian organization number, Dictionary of Art Historians
• Development
  • Worked on (and for now finished) a new, prettier layout for the ArticlePlaceholder-generated pages
  • Made improvements to page size by removing a lot of unneeded comments in the HTML
  • Worked more on putting identifiers into their own section and linking them properly without a gadget
  • Looked into making it possible to edit more languages without the labellister gadget
  • Worked on improving the ranking of search results on Special:Search
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 16:02, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

16:16, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

You are invited! Join us remotely! World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Religion

Dates: 5 to 15 December 2015 Location: Worldwide/virtual/online event Host: Women in Red (WiR): Did you know that only 15% of the biographies on Wikipedia are about women? WiR focuses on "content gender gap". If you'd like to help contribute articles on women and women's works, we warmly welcome you! Event details: This is a virtual edit-a-thon hosted by WiR. It will allow all those keen to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women in reigion to participate. All levels of Wikipedia editing experience are welcome. RSVP and learn more: →here←-- Ipigott ( talk) 11:46, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

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17:53, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Andy. Do you think it's a good time for another try at getting ORCID implemented in citations? I was looking at your "five decisions to make" from the last time around, and think they can all be addressed. I think the main issue is how to display ORCIDS, and here I would suggest: don't display them. Display some kind of symbol which links to the specified ORCID page. I think that would server the purposes, without clogging the citation with a mass of digits. (The unresolved issue would be: what kind of symbol?) Interested? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) ( talk) 23:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@ Andy: No? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) ( talk) 21:19, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Past: Semantic Web Application and Tools 4 Life Science
    • notes
    • example queries
    • a few images
  • Ongoing: Wikidata for Beginners session at DISH 2015, Rotterdam, 8 December 2015
  • Upcoming: Wikidata pour la science
  • Upcoming: Workshop on "Wikidata as a platform for biocuration" at Biocuration 2016
  • Slides for talk "Building the sum of all human citations"
  • Op-ed in Signpost (Lydia is working on a piece to address some of the points)
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Closing in towards 1 million links between Commons categories and Wikidata article-type items -- 8,000 more by next week?
  • Help labeling edits to improve the vandalism detection on Wikidata
  • Open Science Prize is looking for cool ideas for Open Data and health. How about something awesome with Wikidata?
  • The Individual Engagement Grant for StrepHit has been accepted
  • Are you between 13 and 17? Join us for Google Code-in and do some Wikidata tasks with Wikimedia
  • We want your feedback on how to improve the process of showcasing Wikidata's best content
  • I dreamed of a perfect database - Wikidata? ;-)
  • Histropedia timeline of National Library of Wales
  • Wikinews, Wikispecies and MediaWiki now have access to the data on Wikidata. Do awesome things with it, sisters! Meta will follow on 15th.
  • Map of narrative locations in Denmark
  • Experimental REST API for Wikidata
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: deprecated in version, issued by, MediaWiki hooks used, superpartner of, has superpartner, natural abundance, Genius artist ID, ODIS ID, FAO risk status, conversion to SI base unit, Soccerway player ID, Sandbox-Property
  • Newest Database reports: WikiProject Movies/new films
  • Showcase items: Bertus Aafjes
• Development
  • Polished the patch that adds icons to the item pages (for actions like edit, remove etc) and makes them cleaner. This will go live later today.
  • Worked more on a separate section for identifiers
  • Started working on the sorting of statements on the ArticlePlaceholder pages
  • Made it possible to use unknown language, no linguistic content and more as languages for the monolingual text datatype
  • Experimented more with improvements to the ranking on Special:Search
  • Worked on showing more languages in the in other languages box than the ones defined in your babel boxes
  • Small improvements to recent changes/watchlist integration on Wikipedia and co
  • Worked on making it possible to create a redirect over a deleted item
  • Worked on PHP7 support
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 15:48, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

The Interior, via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 19:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM – Volume V, Issue XI, November 2015 Headlines Argentina report: Edit-a-thons and Digitization project France report: November comes and November goes, Wikimedians stay! Germany report: GLAM and copyright Italy report: Food images donation and much more! Mexico report: Rock and movies in Wikipedia Spain report: GLAMing Madrid, Wiki Loves Earth and Carmen Thyssen Museum Sweden report: Exhibitions and more images UK report: November in the UK USA report: GLAM activities in Seattle Special story: Guerrilla GLAMː An alternate way of doing GLAM in indie-way Open Access report: OpenCon; Robots, oysters and amber Wikidata report: Wikidata this month Calendar: December's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

Hi Andy,

My name is Joanna Colley writing on behalf of my husband Reuben Colley, he now Lives in Birmimgham not Cornwall can this be changed on wiki ? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.70.65 ( talk) 07:45, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Wikidata: knowledge from different points of view (Signpost op-ed on knowledge diversity and our thinking on data quality)
  • The Wikimedia Foundation Scholarships Program is now accepting applications for Wikimania 2016 (deadline: 09 January 2016 23:59 UTC)
  • Wikidata: A platform for data integration and dissemination for the life sciences and beyond received the prize for best paper at SWAT4LS. Congrats!
  • Past: 50 hours of Wikidata and Wikipedia editing at Museo Soumaya
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Over 16.000 people have contributed to Wikidata over the last month.
  • Wikidata Analyst, a tool to help comprehensively analyze the quality of Wikidata ( announcement)
  • Overview of the current state of Sum of all Paintings and how you can help by Multichill
  • query.wikidata.org now more prominently shows example queries in case you missed them before, lets you filter and gives you a preview for them. Additionally you can click a little magnifying glass next to an item ID in a query result and explore it further.
  • WikiJourney now has a first release on the Play Store
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: JMDb film identifier, British Council artist ID, MLSSoccer.com ID, YouTube channel ID, image of function, MGI gene symbol, NCBI Locus tag, teaching method, OKPO ID, Ballotpedia ID, organisation directed from the office, office held by head of the organisation, Elonet actor ID, diameter, French diocesan architects ID, statement describes, CTHS person ID, Chemins de mémoire ID, Academic Tree ID, French Sculpture Census ID, deprecated in version, issued by
  • Query example: Which "Lincoln" was "Lincoln" named for?, places by elevation span, people who died in 1945 (for upcoming 2016 public domain day)
  • Newest Database reports: List of films without article in Wikipedia of the same language
• Development
  • Working on sorting of statement groups for the ArticlePlaceholder extension
  • Further work on a separate section for identifiers
  • Worked on properly linking identifiers in the exports
  • Removed a number of lines and boxes in the statement section to make it less busy
  • Made it possible to create a redirect over a deleted item without having to undelete it first
  • Further work on improving ranking on Special:Search
  • Making it possible to show and edit more languages for labels/descriptions/aliases than the ones defined in your babel boxes
  • Getting ready for the holidays :)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 14:30, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

17:42, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

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After, hopefully, you have contributed to Wikipedia:Peer review/Albert Ketèlbey/archive1 as discussed, perhaps you'd be interested in contributing to another composer PR: Wikipedia:Peer review/William Sterndale Bennett/archive1. All constructive contributions gratefully received. Tim riley talk 17:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

I am not up on the proper TfD procedures, but these look like templates that are similar to ones that you often target for cleanup: Talk:Pittsburgh/Archive_5#Multi-reference_templates_in_use. I found them while poking around citation template categories. They seem like a clear case of article content being stored in a template and being used in only one article. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 17:50, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

18:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #186

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Successful request for adminship: Eurodyne
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • World Health Summit yearbook for 2015
  • You can apply for a scholarship to attend Wikimania 2016 (deadline: January 9th)
  • Talk submissions for Wikimania 2016 are open. We'd love to see many Wikidata-related submissions. If you need help with your submission contact Lydia.
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Google has launched the Knowledge Graph Search API, replacing the deprecated Freebase API
  • Meta now has access to the data on Wikidata as well
  • Want to get an overview of the classes and properties on Wikidata? The Miga class and property browser was updated.
  • WikiBrowser - semantically browse Wikipedia with the help of Wikidata
  • WikiFamou.us lets you compare topics by popularity across languages with the help of Wikidata
  • Chronas is a history project linking Wikipedia and Wikidata with a chronological and cartographical view
  • Visiting some place for the holidays? Check out the items nearby.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Fashion Model Directory magazine ID, Fashion Model Directory designer ID, Artsy gene, WikiPathways ID, NII Article ID, set in period, short-term exposure limit, maximum peak exposure limit, ceiling exposure limit, time-weighted average exposure limit, Total assets, total expenditure, Six Degrees of Francis Bacon ID
  • Query example: works created by females who died in 1945
• Development
  • <3 Thanks for being awesome. Enjoy the holidays :)
  • We will take the "in other projects"-sidebar out of beta features in January ( phabricator:T103102)
  • Making ranking information like label and statement counts available to the CirrusSearch index in order to improve ranking in search results ( phabricator:T110648)
  • Continued work on the identifier data type for identifiers like VIAF and ISBN so we can easily put them into a separate section in the items and properly link them in the exports ( phabricator:T95682, phabricator:T121274)
  • Continued work on making external identifiers clickable links without the help of the authority control gadget ( phabricator:T95684)
  • Fixed a mistake in the set reference API documentation ( gerrit:259171)
  • More work on cleaning up the statement section ( phabricator:T121390)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

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