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-- Infrogmation 19:56, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Cool, thank you for your tips, Infrogmation! Noosphere 00:46, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
-- Hey there. Yeah, the article says the ruling was turned down, but it doesn't say the Dems were involved. I'll genericize it. Thanks! -- RyanFreisling @ 08:02, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC) Check the other source, the one at the top of that mini-section. It points to the article which states, in the first three paragraphs, that those ballots will be counted... [1] -- RyanFreisling @ 15:49, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
hi noosphere, I was wondering why you removed that little bit about how combining salvia divinorum with other drugs is a bad idea. it doesn't seem "dangerous"- it says that combining it with anything, even tobacco, makes it work less well; this isn't encouraging reckless behavior but doing the opposite. I'd also say that it isn't misinformation; users do report this. perhaps it should be put back after rewording, perhaps just adding that while combining drugs lessens the effects of salvia, this doesn't make it a "safe" thing to do? thanks, -- Heah 20:45, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Hi noosphere, I understand the often multiplicative effect of combining drugs and the dangers of combining recklessly. If the information is wrong (and i have no doubt that you've come across reports suggesting otherwise) then it certainly shouldn't be there. My point was only that telling people that combining salvia with other drugs makes the salvia not work so well doesn't seem like it would encourage them to combine it- but, of course, i may be wrong; and as i said, if it was to stay, it should make it clear that a lessening of perceived effects doesn't in any way make it safe.
- Anyways, your points are well taken- it certainly shouldn't be implied that this is a safe thing to do, and without citations its all just heresay and has no real place in the article. I didn't put it there, but I honestly do think that that bit of info is essentially correct- Salvia is a very strange substance, and seems to work much much differently when, say, you're partying, than when used under the right circumstances with the right intentions; cross tolerances seem very odd too, apparently even having smoked pot in the few days before using salvia will make it much less effective . . . but thats only from my own very limited experience and conversations with others, certainly nothing that could or should be applied as a blanket generalization. Unfortunately there aren't really any studies to work from . . .
- If you have an interest in helping out with such articles, a WikiProject on Hallucinogens, Entheogens, and Related Topics has recently been started up. Diverse inputs and fields of knowledge are needed; I personally approach all this from a much more entheogenic pov (hence my own take on salvia) and don't have much knowledge when it comes to chemistry, etc. you should check it out if you are interested.
- thanks! -- Heah (talk) 00:17, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Sometimes the simplest acts bear the greatest fruit. Well done indeed. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 16:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Very kind of you to say - but today is your day for accolades... my day is yet to come :). Very happy holidays to you. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 16:44, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
An RfC has been opened here against User:Mr j galt ( talk · contribs). If you are familar with his editing and would like to add your input, please feel free to do so, whatever your POV. Thanks! -- User:RyanFreisling @ 00:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- No problem - if you don't know his work, it's best you don't opine! :) Hope you are well. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 01:41, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
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This is an archive of former discussions. Please do not edit it. If you wish to revitalize an old topic, bring it up on the active talk page. |
Hello, "Noosphere" and welcome to Wikipedia. A few tips for you:
- Peruse Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers and associated pages, such as
- You can experiment in the Wikipedia:Sandbox.
- Sign talk page entries with ~~~~, which is automatically converted to a name and date.
- If you have any questions, see Wikipedia:Help, or you can a question at the Wikipedia:Help desk.
- I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian.
-- Infrogmation 19:56, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Cool, thank you for your tips, Infrogmation! Noosphere 00:46, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
-- Hey there. Yeah, the article says the ruling was turned down, but it doesn't say the Dems were involved. I'll genericize it. Thanks! -- RyanFreisling @ 08:02, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC) Check the other source, the one at the top of that mini-section. It points to the article which states, in the first three paragraphs, that those ballots will be counted... [1] -- RyanFreisling @ 15:49, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
hi noosphere, I was wondering why you removed that little bit about how combining salvia divinorum with other drugs is a bad idea. it doesn't seem "dangerous"- it says that combining it with anything, even tobacco, makes it work less well; this isn't encouraging reckless behavior but doing the opposite. I'd also say that it isn't misinformation; users do report this. perhaps it should be put back after rewording, perhaps just adding that while combining drugs lessens the effects of salvia, this doesn't make it a "safe" thing to do? thanks, -- Heah 20:45, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Hi noosphere, I understand the often multiplicative effect of combining drugs and the dangers of combining recklessly. If the information is wrong (and i have no doubt that you've come across reports suggesting otherwise) then it certainly shouldn't be there. My point was only that telling people that combining salvia with other drugs makes the salvia not work so well doesn't seem like it would encourage them to combine it- but, of course, i may be wrong; and as i said, if it was to stay, it should make it clear that a lessening of perceived effects doesn't in any way make it safe.
- Anyways, your points are well taken- it certainly shouldn't be implied that this is a safe thing to do, and without citations its all just heresay and has no real place in the article. I didn't put it there, but I honestly do think that that bit of info is essentially correct- Salvia is a very strange substance, and seems to work much much differently when, say, you're partying, than when used under the right circumstances with the right intentions; cross tolerances seem very odd too, apparently even having smoked pot in the few days before using salvia will make it much less effective . . . but thats only from my own very limited experience and conversations with others, certainly nothing that could or should be applied as a blanket generalization. Unfortunately there aren't really any studies to work from . . .
- If you have an interest in helping out with such articles, a WikiProject on Hallucinogens, Entheogens, and Related Topics has recently been started up. Diverse inputs and fields of knowledge are needed; I personally approach all this from a much more entheogenic pov (hence my own take on salvia) and don't have much knowledge when it comes to chemistry, etc. you should check it out if you are interested.
- thanks! -- Heah (talk) 00:17, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Sometimes the simplest acts bear the greatest fruit. Well done indeed. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 16:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Very kind of you to say - but today is your day for accolades... my day is yet to come :). Very happy holidays to you. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 16:44, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
An RfC has been opened here against User:Mr j galt ( talk · contribs). If you are familar with his editing and would like to add your input, please feel free to do so, whatever your POV. Thanks! -- User:RyanFreisling @ 00:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- No problem - if you don't know his work, it's best you don't opine! :) Hope you are well. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 01:41, 5 February 2006 (UTC)