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PS : may I use (and maybe adapt) the Orwellian box ? Baronnet ( talk) 23:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- It is wonderful to hear from another, too! Thank you for your kind words. ;-) Yes, by all means adapt the box. I adapted it from elsewhere, myself. - Nhprman 02:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Under the now-current standards at Template:United States presidential election, 2008, with approximate agreement on zero dollar reported FEC activity threshold, it appears this person qualifies for listing on the template (though I won't be adding him). -- Yellowdesk ( talk) 20:46, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
You need not call delitionists other names. That's descriptive enough. Jihadist is inflamatory. -- Yellowdesk ( talk) 21:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- I only used it because "Crusader" is somehow not quite politically correct, though works just as well. Seriously, when someone makes it a point to delete EVERY IMAGE from Wikipedia, and sets up a Bot to do the job, "philosophically inclined towards deleting stuff" (i.e. "Deletionist") doesn't seem to state the case strong enough. But point taken. Rhetorical barbs only go so far, esp. here, where those who oppose expanding knowledge are so numerous, and 'efficient' at stifling the debate. What's the point in fighting it so hard? seems to be my mood, for the most part. - Nhprman 04:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- I can appreciate the frustration, and admit I have not met up with the sort you apparently have. Cheers,
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- Lucky you. Then again, I'm sure you must have heard of Betacommandbot. He/it is a great example of that sort. - Nhprman 14:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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I still don't see how he meets WP:MUSIC. Just placing in a reality tv series isn't a criterion of WP:MUSIC, and I don't really see any reliable sources, outside trivial coverage related to the tv series. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- I know this is going to be an unsatisfactory answer, but he gets plenty of LOCAL coverage, though I will freely admit that he's not a superstar, and I bet he would, too. Then again, does WP require superstar status for "notability"? Someone "of note" means that they are known, to an extent. But does it mean universal know-ability? I think there's a grey area here that requires perhaps a bit of wisdom and the occasional exception to rigidity. As I said, perhaps too vociferously, there's an intepretation of the Notability guidelines here that are a bit too stringent, rigid and legalistic. Mr. Logan is not famous, important or necessarily 'popular.' But then again the WP:N guidelines state that "Notability is distinct from fame, importance, or popularity," - Nhprman 04:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the invitation. I've been watching this page and have contributed to the discussion. - Nhprman 19:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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- As usual, the previous fair use template, noting that this was a low-resolution image used for purely illustrative purposes, was completely sufficient under all existing law regarding fair use. That is, until the Deletionists created this fearsome monster called "non-free" and decided to denude Wikipedia of all images. Again, knock yourselves out, you sad, pathetic little dictators. LOL - Nhprman 04:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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As an occasional editor to the discussion at Template:United States presidential election, 2008 your input would be appreciated at Template talk:United States presidential election, 2008#Proposal: A return to the old standards. Thank you.-- S TX 04:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there a fellowship of contributors tired of zealous delitionists ? At least, since I read your comments about BetacommandBot, I feel less lonely. Baronnet ( talk) 23:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
PS : may I use (and maybe adapt) the Orwellian box ? Baronnet ( talk) 23:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- It is wonderful to hear from another, too! Thank you for your kind words. ;-) Yes, by all means adapt the box. I adapted it from elsewhere, myself. - Nhprman 02:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Under the now-current standards at Template:United States presidential election, 2008, with approximate agreement on zero dollar reported FEC activity threshold, it appears this person qualifies for listing on the template (though I won't be adding him). -- Yellowdesk ( talk) 20:46, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
You need not call delitionists other names. That's descriptive enough. Jihadist is inflamatory. -- Yellowdesk ( talk) 21:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- I only used it because "Crusader" is somehow not quite politically correct, though works just as well. Seriously, when someone makes it a point to delete EVERY IMAGE from Wikipedia, and sets up a Bot to do the job, "philosophically inclined towards deleting stuff" (i.e. "Deletionist") doesn't seem to state the case strong enough. But point taken. Rhetorical barbs only go so far, esp. here, where those who oppose expanding knowledge are so numerous, and 'efficient' at stifling the debate. What's the point in fighting it so hard? seems to be my mood, for the most part. - Nhprman 04:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- I can appreciate the frustration, and admit I have not met up with the sort you apparently have. Cheers,
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- Lucky you. Then again, I'm sure you must have heard of Betacommandbot. He/it is a great example of that sort. - Nhprman 14:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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I have nominated Josh Logan (vocalist), an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josh Logan (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I still don't see how he meets WP:MUSIC. Just placing in a reality tv series isn't a criterion of WP:MUSIC, and I don't really see any reliable sources, outside trivial coverage related to the tv series. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- I know this is going to be an unsatisfactory answer, but he gets plenty of LOCAL coverage, though I will freely admit that he's not a superstar, and I bet he would, too. Then again, does WP require superstar status for "notability"? Someone "of note" means that they are known, to an extent. But does it mean universal know-ability? I think there's a grey area here that requires perhaps a bit of wisdom and the occasional exception to rigidity. As I said, perhaps too vociferously, there's an intepretation of the Notability guidelines here that are a bit too stringent, rigid and legalistic. Mr. Logan is not famous, important or necessarily 'popular.' But then again the WP:N guidelines state that "Notability is distinct from fame, importance, or popularity," - Nhprman 04:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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The article Screen International Security Services has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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