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The Wikipedia Signpost: 3 May 2010

MiszaBot issue

This RfC still had nearly two weeks before it expired but was archived by your bot.-- The Devil's Advocate ( talk) 04:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Sorry, but that's how the bot works. You can cheat it by " bumping" its newest timestamp. Миша 13 07:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Avatar edits!

I don't understand why you keep editing the article I'M TRYING TO FIX!!! On the page for Avatar (2009 film), I keep on editing the reception area whic says, "The film received generally positive reviews from critics." 'Generally Positive,' in this case means, 'Okay movie. It's good. Just not amazing.' But it clearly states very good reviews such as an 82% from Rotten Tomatoes, which would be a very good score. A "generally positive" movie would've been around the 60's or 70's. It also shows a review that gave the film four out of four stars, and there are other very positive reviews as well. What I am trying to do is simply edit the word "generally" to "very," if that is not too much to ask for. With this simple edit, it will correctly say: "The film received generally positive reviews from critics." IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR TO HAVE A SIMPLE WORD EDITED!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Come on, Misza13. It's time you either give me a good reason to shut up, or you just accept the fact that a simple word on one of MANY articles is just going to be a little different, as well as more accurate. RESPOND!!!!!!!!!

Autobotprowl ( talk) 00:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Autobotprowl reply

Um... huh? Миша 13 07:50, 10 May 2010 (UTC) reply
He may be talking about the edits by 72.216.11.172 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), though Im not sure how you got involved unless that IP is also you. Soap 20:42, 11 May 2010 (UTC) reply

WP:PW newsletter

The latest issue of the WP:PW newsletter (no. 68) is ready for delivery at Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Issue 068. Cheers, ♥ NiciVampireHeart♥ 09:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC) reply

The Wikipedia Signpost: 10 May 2010

Archiving tagged sections

Hi! Although not a serious issue, it would be nice if the bot avoided archiving sections with RfC tags, like this: [1]. The problem is the section gets listed in RfC lists by other bots even though it is in archive. Cheers!   Hellknowz  ▎ talk  09:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC) reply

That's not supported, however you can " bump" the thread by adding an appropriate timestamp, as outlined in solution #2 under User:MiszaBot/Archive FAQ#Q2. Миша 13 10:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

The Wikipedia Signpost: 17 May 2010

What are threads?

What are threads? Are they a sequence of indented paragraphs, a section within a page, or what? Why not talk about archiving a page rather than this confusing thing called threads? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RHB100 ( talkcontribs) 03:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

In the context of a talk page, a thread is the common name for a ==second level section== (along with any lower-level subsections it might have). It is natural because the "new section" button creates sections at exactly that level, making it a logical unit of discussion. And the bot does not archive entire pages - it picks individual sections that qualify for archiving, which is why I chose this wording. Миша 13 10:08, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Alright, I understand now. Thank You! RHB100 ( talk) 19:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

WP:PW newsletter

The lastest issue of the WP:PW newsletter, number 69, is ready for delivery at Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Issue 069. Thanks as always, ♥ NiciVampireHeart♥ 05:42, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

WT:NOR

The bot seems to be malfunctioning at WT:NOR. The bot is set for 6d, according to its edit summary, but it archived a thread [2] [3] where the last activity was 2d ago. [4] [5] -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 15:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Oh. I think I understand what happened now. Although there was activity, the time stamp wasn't changed, so the bot functioned as designed. Am I understanding this correctly? -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 15:24, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Query

Hi Misza, can you tell me how to pin a post at the top of a talk page, so it's not archived by your bot? SlimVirgin talk contribs 09:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Okay, got it, I think. Remove the timestamp. :) SlimVirgin talk contribs 11:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC) reply
Or add another, post-dated, timestamp, e.g. "11:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)", with a note explaing that it's there to prevent archiving.
—WWoods ( talk) 15:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Question on the next archive page

Hi, we are using the bot at WT:AETF, I look after the page and am new to using Miszabot. Just wondered whether the bot will automatically create the next archive page (in our case Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft/Engines/Archive 5) or do I create it manually in advance? Many thanks. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 08:10, 26 May 2010 (UTC) reply

The Wikipedia Signpost: 24 May 2010

I wonder if User:MiszaBot/Trackers could be switched to use {{PAGESINCATEGORY:}}. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 04:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Bot improvements

Several issues:

1) There wasn't an obvious page describing this bot's function. The FAQ page assumes that a reader is already familiar with the mechanism. (Possibly there's an answer in the huge archives, but that isn't obvious.)

2) Some articles, by virtue of having a limited readership, statistically will see very occasional comments, responses sometimes separated by months or years. The bot algorithm should be modified so that pages that have not reached an excessive length do not have messages archived.

3) The archive function is not likely to be intuitive to new or casual readers, so this mechanism as it stands is a convenience for experienced editors, and largely opaque and counter-productive for newer users, who are the ones who need the most support.

4) The bot archives messages without notifying the authors, as here [6] Notification needs to be done, since there are several situations where an editor may assume that a dialog is ongoing, where, in fact the bot has effectively ended it. Regards, Piano non troppo ( talk) 04:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC) reply

1) You are welcome to improve the quality of documentation.
2) You are welcome to submit patches to the algorithm.
3) You are welcome to write a tutorial for newbies.
4) No.
Миша 13 13:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Ping

You have mail. -- sk8er5000 yeah? 00:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Archive This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
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Special RfA-thanks Year 2005
Year 2006
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VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2007
I II III IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2008
I II III IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2009
I II III IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2010
I II III IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2011
I II III IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2012
I II III IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2013
I II III IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI XII
Year 2014
I IV V VI
VII VIII IX X XI
Year 2015
I II III IV VI
VII VIII IX XI XII

Archive for May 2010 Information

The Wikipedia Signpost: 3 May 2010

MiszaBot issue

This RfC still had nearly two weeks before it expired but was archived by your bot.-- The Devil's Advocate ( talk) 04:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Sorry, but that's how the bot works. You can cheat it by " bumping" its newest timestamp. Миша 13 07:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Avatar edits!

I don't understand why you keep editing the article I'M TRYING TO FIX!!! On the page for Avatar (2009 film), I keep on editing the reception area whic says, "The film received generally positive reviews from critics." 'Generally Positive,' in this case means, 'Okay movie. It's good. Just not amazing.' But it clearly states very good reviews such as an 82% from Rotten Tomatoes, which would be a very good score. A "generally positive" movie would've been around the 60's or 70's. It also shows a review that gave the film four out of four stars, and there are other very positive reviews as well. What I am trying to do is simply edit the word "generally" to "very," if that is not too much to ask for. With this simple edit, it will correctly say: "The film received generally positive reviews from critics." IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR TO HAVE A SIMPLE WORD EDITED!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Come on, Misza13. It's time you either give me a good reason to shut up, or you just accept the fact that a simple word on one of MANY articles is just going to be a little different, as well as more accurate. RESPOND!!!!!!!!!

Autobotprowl ( talk) 00:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Autobotprowl reply

Um... huh? Миша 13 07:50, 10 May 2010 (UTC) reply
He may be talking about the edits by 72.216.11.172 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), though Im not sure how you got involved unless that IP is also you. Soap 20:42, 11 May 2010 (UTC) reply

WP:PW newsletter

The latest issue of the WP:PW newsletter (no. 68) is ready for delivery at Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Issue 068. Cheers, ♥ NiciVampireHeart♥ 09:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC) reply

The Wikipedia Signpost: 10 May 2010

Archiving tagged sections

Hi! Although not a serious issue, it would be nice if the bot avoided archiving sections with RfC tags, like this: [1]. The problem is the section gets listed in RfC lists by other bots even though it is in archive. Cheers!   Hellknowz  ▎ talk  09:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC) reply

That's not supported, however you can " bump" the thread by adding an appropriate timestamp, as outlined in solution #2 under User:MiszaBot/Archive FAQ#Q2. Миша 13 10:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

The Wikipedia Signpost: 17 May 2010

What are threads?

What are threads? Are they a sequence of indented paragraphs, a section within a page, or what? Why not talk about archiving a page rather than this confusing thing called threads? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RHB100 ( talkcontribs) 03:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

In the context of a talk page, a thread is the common name for a ==second level section== (along with any lower-level subsections it might have). It is natural because the "new section" button creates sections at exactly that level, making it a logical unit of discussion. And the bot does not archive entire pages - it picks individual sections that qualify for archiving, which is why I chose this wording. Миша 13 10:08, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Alright, I understand now. Thank You! RHB100 ( talk) 19:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC) reply

WP:PW newsletter

The lastest issue of the WP:PW newsletter, number 69, is ready for delivery at Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Issue 069. Thanks as always, ♥ NiciVampireHeart♥ 05:42, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

WT:NOR

The bot seems to be malfunctioning at WT:NOR. The bot is set for 6d, according to its edit summary, but it archived a thread [2] [3] where the last activity was 2d ago. [4] [5] -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 15:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Oh. I think I understand what happened now. Although there was activity, the time stamp wasn't changed, so the bot functioned as designed. Am I understanding this correctly? -- Bob K31416 ( talk) 15:24, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Query

Hi Misza, can you tell me how to pin a post at the top of a talk page, so it's not archived by your bot? SlimVirgin talk contribs 09:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Okay, got it, I think. Remove the timestamp. :) SlimVirgin talk contribs 11:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC) reply
Or add another, post-dated, timestamp, e.g. "11:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)", with a note explaing that it's there to prevent archiving.
—WWoods ( talk) 15:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Question on the next archive page

Hi, we are using the bot at WT:AETF, I look after the page and am new to using Miszabot. Just wondered whether the bot will automatically create the next archive page (in our case Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft/Engines/Archive 5) or do I create it manually in advance? Many thanks. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 08:10, 26 May 2010 (UTC) reply

The Wikipedia Signpost: 24 May 2010

I wonder if User:MiszaBot/Trackers could be switched to use {{PAGESINCATEGORY:}}. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 04:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Bot improvements

Several issues:

1) There wasn't an obvious page describing this bot's function. The FAQ page assumes that a reader is already familiar with the mechanism. (Possibly there's an answer in the huge archives, but that isn't obvious.)

2) Some articles, by virtue of having a limited readership, statistically will see very occasional comments, responses sometimes separated by months or years. The bot algorithm should be modified so that pages that have not reached an excessive length do not have messages archived.

3) The archive function is not likely to be intuitive to new or casual readers, so this mechanism as it stands is a convenience for experienced editors, and largely opaque and counter-productive for newer users, who are the ones who need the most support.

4) The bot archives messages without notifying the authors, as here [6] Notification needs to be done, since there are several situations where an editor may assume that a dialog is ongoing, where, in fact the bot has effectively ended it. Regards, Piano non troppo ( talk) 04:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC) reply

1) You are welcome to improve the quality of documentation.
2) You are welcome to submit patches to the algorithm.
3) You are welcome to write a tutorial for newbies.
4) No.
Миша 13 13:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Ping

You have mail. -- sk8er5000 yeah? 00:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC) reply


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