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Thank you for experimenting with the page Armenian_Genocide on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Please go to Talk: Armenian_Genocide before getting into another "edit war". Bearian ( talk) 17:42, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Armenian Genocide shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Please note that all topics covering the Armenian Genocide have been placed under WP:1RR. Please see the relevant Arbcom decision WP:ARBAA2. Any user violating the 1RR rule will be blocked or placed under a topic ban. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 21:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:47, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Note to admins: Just in case there is any doubt if the above notice about the ArbCom case is sufficient, I am not claiming AE rules on this block, but I will issue a warning now so that future blocks may be issued under AE. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, satisfy any standard of behavior, or follow any normal editorial process. If you continue to misconduct yourself on pages relating to this topic, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The Committee's full decision can be read at the " Final decision" section of the decision page.
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Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
As Heimsten Laufer posted on your talk page about the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2, you can't just add what you want to add something put it in the talk page and start a discussion. You were recently banned for your disruptive editing, you will be banned again if you continue under the above case. Ninetoyadome ( talk) 07:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Could you please explain why you constantly remove the facts, reference to official documents with verifiable/reliable sources ? I also posted on your talk page asking about details of basis why you are removing the contents from official documents related to subject. I also edited some sections with your feedback, but you shouldn't remove some facts constantly.
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
For information, I have basically made reference to two documents which are related to article and complying with all the rules. These references are to official documents of British government of that time , published in book with ISBN number and page number is given, reference and date is given to original official documents of British government and they are not conflicting with any of the facts, insulting anyone but giving more information to readers. But these entries, constantly removed by different users, with different but not justified reasons such as excessive material, horrible English (this comment is made to British diplomat's report which I have written exactly as in original) etc. I have further written on respective users' talk page, asking for explanation and edited some other contribution of mines to not to cause conflict. But I don't find it right that some users show act of vandalism by removing entire content (which are official documents related to article) without any further explanation and cooperation. Here is the talk page of Armenian genocide where I was seeking for consensus and cease this edit conflict where I haven't received any reply but respective user raise this issue without seeking for consensus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_Genocide#Consensus_about_article Malizengin ( talk) 08:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Reminder to administrators: In March 2010, ArbCom adopted a procedure prohibiting administrators "from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page." Administrators who reverse an arbitration enforcement block, such as this one, without clear authorisation will be summarily desysopped.
- You are adding information that is controversial and not widely accepted amongst many of the users and the general consensus of Wikipedia. However, you are surprised that it gets deleted. The information you add may or may not be credible, but that's not important. Even if the additions you add were "favorable" towards the article, I would still would have reported you due to your conduct. Let me emphasis that the issue is the WAY you add the information and the tenacious editing that follows. You add the information first, then you go to the TP and say "lets discuss it". Then before any sort of consensus is reached at the TP, you continue to edit-war over the very same information that you seek to gain consensus for without actually gaining the consensus in the first place. Clearly, you are not being genuine in your intentions when it comes to open discussion and this has already led to your 24 hour ban and now your newly imposed 2 week ban. Your edit summaries are also a big issue. Using caps lock makes you sound like a bully and that is never good. Proudbolsahye ( talk) 09:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I have asked what is controversial about the 2 information I added. It is an official report of British government and totally relevant to article. Of course, I will add this information to article, then as it was removed, I went to individual TPs of users and opened a topic on article's TP. But none of the users, even yourself in this explanation here, didn't give any justifiable reason why it was controversial. The reasons given while removing the information I entered, was variable, such as horrible English, excessive material, no reason at all etc. So I have made all efforts to come to common sense and reason. But others, including yourself, have removed the information (which is again official documents and facts) without further explanation. So how come I can make consensus if others removing the content without any explanation. Consensus means parties explains their reasons and come to common sense. Please check your talk page. Apologize about Caps lock. Malizengin ( talk) 09:11, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- This isn't about whether your additions are reliable, official, notable and etc. This is about the way you have added those additions in the first place. You claim that no one appeared at the TP of Armenian Genocide to discuss the additions. Meanwhile, you added the information before you even went to the TP. Even when disagreements in the article became apparent, you still edit-warred over them. You did not give even a second to have anybody disagree with you at the TP nor while editing over the article. But besides the point, this isn't about your additions per se, it is about your conduct. If you were to use "common sense and reason" as you claim to have used, you would've directly gone to the TP and not have reverted after your block was over.
- And regarding the grammar...
- "Although, reports of Charles Blunt, British Consul to Ottoman Empire, dated 28th July 1860 as follows"
- "excerpt from the report asfollows" as follows is two separate words and even if they were separated it still wouldn't make sense Proudbolsahye ( talk) 09:27, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
There is something called minor edit on wikipedia, for correction of grammar mistakes. If your point was to correct grammar mistakes, anybody could have just corrected these mistakes. About my conduct, I have entered more reliable information than some of the other information on this article. There are many references to websites which are open to speculation and not reliable as the reports I have entered.
I believe there was a consensus in place, if the references to webpages and reports and books of people who were not in the area during the Armenian Genocide and with no reliable reference have a place on this article, a report which was written by British diplomats who were in the area in person has more rightful place in this article. But some users constantly removed these content with some subjective view as no reason yet has been given. Malizengin ( talk) 09:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
You have removed the contents again your comment is "hese additions shall be removed until a consensus has been reached at the TP. Simple as that.". So what is the next step to reach to consensus ? or is it just you remove some contents with no justification and keep quiet so no consensus can be reached and the information is never show up on the article ? It doesn't sound right at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Armenian_Genocide&diff=556557130&oldid=556547154 Malizengin ( talk) 12:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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I have had to revert your edit today adding Turkey to the list of countries which designate ISIS as a terrorist group, as I could find no reference to this in your citation. The designation of a country as a terrorist organization is a formal government ruling, and when a government does this it adds the name of the group to an official list. Can you provide a list like this from the Turkish government or any other citation that shows the Turkish government has made such a designation? A source simply reporting that the Turkish government call them terrorists would not be enough, I'm afraid. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 21:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Would you provide a citation in English to add to the new citation you have given for your edit, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 05:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
English citation provided from different source. Turkish government doesn't publicize the subject list but foreign minister & prime minister of Turkey stated that ISIS was officially designated as terrorist organization by 30th September 2013, the decision was taken during ministers meeting held that day. Malizengin ( talk) 05:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for that, but can you provide a citation in English, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 06:14, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank you as well for your efforts on providing clear and reliable information. I have edited the article on Wikipedia with English citation referencing the English daily published in Turkey. The link for your reference as follows, http://www.dailysabah.com/columns/hilal_kaplan/2014/09/03/charging-turkey-for-isis Malizengin ( talk) 06:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
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Welcome and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page
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You currently appear to be engaged in an
edit war according to the reverts you have made on
Piracy. Note that the
three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the
three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to
discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a
consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek
dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request
page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be
blocked from editing. --
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Thank you for experimenting with the page Armenian_Genocide on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Please go to Talk: Armenian_Genocide before getting into another "edit war". Bearian ( talk) 17:42, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Armenian Genocide shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Please note that all topics covering the Armenian Genocide have been placed under WP:1RR. Please see the relevant Arbcom decision WP:ARBAA2. Any user violating the 1RR rule will be blocked or placed under a topic ban. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 21:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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Your recent editing history at Soghomon Tehlirian shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
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{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:47, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Note to admins: Just in case there is any doubt if the above notice about the ArbCom case is sufficient, I am not claiming AE rules on this block, but I will issue a warning now so that future blocks may be issued under AE. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, satisfy any standard of behavior, or follow any normal editorial process. If you continue to misconduct yourself on pages relating to this topic, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The Committee's full decision can be read at the " Final decision" section of the decision page.
Please familiarise yourself with the information page at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions, with the appropriate sections of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures, and with the case decision page before making any further edits to the pages in question. This notice is given by an uninvolved administrator and will be logged on the case decision, pursuant to the conditions of the Arbitration Committee's discretionary sanctions system.
Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
As Heimsten Laufer posted on your talk page about the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2, you can't just add what you want to add something put it in the talk page and start a discussion. You were recently banned for your disruptive editing, you will be banned again if you continue under the above case. Ninetoyadome ( talk) 07:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Could you please explain why you constantly remove the facts, reference to official documents with verifiable/reliable sources ? I also posted on your talk page asking about details of basis why you are removing the contents from official documents related to subject. I also edited some sections with your feedback, but you shouldn't remove some facts constantly.
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
For information, I have basically made reference to two documents which are related to article and complying with all the rules. These references are to official documents of British government of that time , published in book with ISBN number and page number is given, reference and date is given to original official documents of British government and they are not conflicting with any of the facts, insulting anyone but giving more information to readers. But these entries, constantly removed by different users, with different but not justified reasons such as excessive material, horrible English (this comment is made to British diplomat's report which I have written exactly as in original) etc. I have further written on respective users' talk page, asking for explanation and edited some other contribution of mines to not to cause conflict. But I don't find it right that some users show act of vandalism by removing entire content (which are official documents related to article) without any further explanation and cooperation. Here is the talk page of Armenian genocide where I was seeking for consensus and cease this edit conflict where I haven't received any reply but respective user raise this issue without seeking for consensus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_Genocide#Consensus_about_article Malizengin ( talk) 08:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Reminder to administrators: In March 2010, ArbCom adopted a procedure prohibiting administrators "from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page." Administrators who reverse an arbitration enforcement block, such as this one, without clear authorisation will be summarily desysopped.
- You are adding information that is controversial and not widely accepted amongst many of the users and the general consensus of Wikipedia. However, you are surprised that it gets deleted. The information you add may or may not be credible, but that's not important. Even if the additions you add were "favorable" towards the article, I would still would have reported you due to your conduct. Let me emphasis that the issue is the WAY you add the information and the tenacious editing that follows. You add the information first, then you go to the TP and say "lets discuss it". Then before any sort of consensus is reached at the TP, you continue to edit-war over the very same information that you seek to gain consensus for without actually gaining the consensus in the first place. Clearly, you are not being genuine in your intentions when it comes to open discussion and this has already led to your 24 hour ban and now your newly imposed 2 week ban. Your edit summaries are also a big issue. Using caps lock makes you sound like a bully and that is never good. Proudbolsahye ( talk) 09:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I have asked what is controversial about the 2 information I added. It is an official report of British government and totally relevant to article. Of course, I will add this information to article, then as it was removed, I went to individual TPs of users and opened a topic on article's TP. But none of the users, even yourself in this explanation here, didn't give any justifiable reason why it was controversial. The reasons given while removing the information I entered, was variable, such as horrible English, excessive material, no reason at all etc. So I have made all efforts to come to common sense and reason. But others, including yourself, have removed the information (which is again official documents and facts) without further explanation. So how come I can make consensus if others removing the content without any explanation. Consensus means parties explains their reasons and come to common sense. Please check your talk page. Apologize about Caps lock. Malizengin ( talk) 09:11, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- This isn't about whether your additions are reliable, official, notable and etc. This is about the way you have added those additions in the first place. You claim that no one appeared at the TP of Armenian Genocide to discuss the additions. Meanwhile, you added the information before you even went to the TP. Even when disagreements in the article became apparent, you still edit-warred over them. You did not give even a second to have anybody disagree with you at the TP nor while editing over the article. But besides the point, this isn't about your additions per se, it is about your conduct. If you were to use "common sense and reason" as you claim to have used, you would've directly gone to the TP and not have reverted after your block was over.
- And regarding the grammar...
- "Although, reports of Charles Blunt, British Consul to Ottoman Empire, dated 28th July 1860 as follows"
- "excerpt from the report asfollows" as follows is two separate words and even if they were separated it still wouldn't make sense Proudbolsahye ( talk) 09:27, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
There is something called minor edit on wikipedia, for correction of grammar mistakes. If your point was to correct grammar mistakes, anybody could have just corrected these mistakes. About my conduct, I have entered more reliable information than some of the other information on this article. There are many references to websites which are open to speculation and not reliable as the reports I have entered.
I believe there was a consensus in place, if the references to webpages and reports and books of people who were not in the area during the Armenian Genocide and with no reliable reference have a place on this article, a report which was written by British diplomats who were in the area in person has more rightful place in this article. But some users constantly removed these content with some subjective view as no reason yet has been given. Malizengin ( talk) 09:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
You have removed the contents again your comment is "hese additions shall be removed until a consensus has been reached at the TP. Simple as that.". So what is the next step to reach to consensus ? or is it just you remove some contents with no justification and keep quiet so no consensus can be reached and the information is never show up on the article ? It doesn't sound right at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Armenian_Genocide&diff=556557130&oldid=556547154 Malizengin ( talk) 12:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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I have had to revert your edit today adding Turkey to the list of countries which designate ISIS as a terrorist group, as I could find no reference to this in your citation. The designation of a country as a terrorist organization is a formal government ruling, and when a government does this it adds the name of the group to an official list. Can you provide a list like this from the Turkish government or any other citation that shows the Turkish government has made such a designation? A source simply reporting that the Turkish government call them terrorists would not be enough, I'm afraid. -- P123ct1 ( talk) 21:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Would you provide a citation in English to add to the new citation you have given for your edit, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 05:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
English citation provided from different source. Turkish government doesn't publicize the subject list but foreign minister & prime minister of Turkey stated that ISIS was officially designated as terrorist organization by 30th September 2013, the decision was taken during ministers meeting held that day. Malizengin ( talk) 05:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for that, but can you provide a citation in English, please? -- P123ct1 ( talk) 06:14, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank you as well for your efforts on providing clear and reliable information. I have edited the article on Wikipedia with English citation referencing the English daily published in Turkey. The link for your reference as follows, http://www.dailysabah.com/columns/hilal_kaplan/2014/09/03/charging-turkey-for-isis Malizengin ( talk) 06:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)