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Thanks. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop you a line to remind you of what you should already know. You're a terrific and much-valued contributor to Wikipedia.
Whatever you do about the criticism you've received, and however much accuracy there is in any of it, strap this truth firmly to your editing heart and emerge from the mess an even more terrific and much-valued contributor to Wikipedia. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey Majorly,
Could I get you to look at this? It is a proposal to adding wording to the RfA page. Based on our last communicatiosn during a recent discussion at WT:RFA, I don't think you would oppose this, but wanted to get your input before proceeding. Basically, it is not a policy, but a warning and disclaimer. The warning is that newbies are "strongly encouraged" not to start and RfA and a disclaimer in that they need to familiarize themselves with the current trends at RfAs.--- Balloonman PoppaBalloon 16:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
On the advice of someone who means the world to me, I'm going to step away from your RFC now, your blog, and all else. At least for the time being. You've taken some hard hits the past couple days, and it's obvious that you're not going to be able to take any criticism from me. That is much my own fault for my poor approach in criticizing you for the past many months.
That said, had I read my email this morning instead of five minutes ago, today would have gone much differently. Regardless, I walk away now, but this is not a promise not to file an RFAR. Rather, it is me taking a leap and assuming good faith despite your recent blog comment that I literally do not know how to take any other way. Instead, I am basing this decision on the words and faith of another. As I have said many times before, if your behavior improves, I'll be left with nothing to criticize. So far, you've not taken that path. Hopefully this time will be different.
It's more than just RFA, Maj. Improve in all the areas of concern, from the many participants in the RFC. If you want to retain your adminship, your behavior has to improve. Reread the RFC without looking at the names, and consider the number of people calling for your tools. This is a real possibility, Majorly. And one I know you don't want. Jennavecia (Talk) 20:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I love your blog, but it makes me wonder if Wikipedia is that cool. — Byeitical ( talk · contribs) 07:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
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-- creaɯy! Talk 23:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Heya Alex - I'm not really keeping up with WikiDrahmaz these days but I couldn't help noticing your RfC. First off, I don't necessarily agree with a lot of things you've done. However, as tends to happen with these things, it's turned into a teensy bit of a witch hunt, which must be pretty rough. And, as you may remember, at one point I was extremely supportive of you gaining adminship :) So - chin up, and take as much good stuff from it as possible. Some opinions are worth more than others, but do give them all a chance for now.
And smile! Nothing's THAT bad. :) ~ Riana ⁂ 03:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Majorly, thank you for the nomination – I've now accepted it. Jamie ☆ S93 20:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Greetings, I'm not sure we've met and perhaps this isn't the best pt of introduction. Nevertheless, you might want to consider striking out or removing some of your comments on the RfA, esp those that are perceived in a negative light due to repeated questioning/argumentation with oppose votes. Yes, I realize from your comments that you feel you are justified. But, rightly or wrongly, the perception of those comments does not tend to match your rationale, and it may be detrimental to a fair assessment of the candidate. Thanks for your consideration, best wishes, HG | Talk 14:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I think you should go in and certify your RfC with one or more of your known socks...--- Balloonman PoppaBalloon 15:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to say I've a lot of respect for you opening up an RfC on yourself, not many people would, especially if they knew the "bloodbath" they'd receive. I've seen your conduct at RfA but I really, really don't think it's all that bad, I think you're usually just defending your POV and that's half the fun of discussion, in my opinion. That said, I haven't really looked at Giggy's huge post yet, it's quite daunting. Anyway, good luck with other areas of Wikipedia and happy editing. — Cyclonenim ( talk · contribs · email) 09:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
<outdent> Wow. Well to ruin my complimentary post ;) — Cyclonenim ( talk · contribs · email) 22:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Majorly. I don't think we've ever had a dispute before, or even spoken with each other, at least not that I can recall. Looking at the current RFAR and RFC about your sysop status, it seems very likely that you can no longer be an effective administrator, due to loss of community confidence, and that ArbCom is extremely likely to remove your sysop access. Under these circumstances, I think it would be best for Wikipedia, and probably for yourself, to resign. It's just a website and sysophood is no big deal. Many members of the community will think well of you for doing the honorable thing, and you'll be able to continue participating here in many areas. I hope you will consider this idea. Best regards, Jehochman Talk 20:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you are old enough for one of these, but I couldn't care less, you need one. Be well. Keeper ǀ 76 21:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I see you've got a beer, good start. You have mail as well, but I also wanted to give you something seldom witnessed in nature by anyone. It upsets me enormously me to think that we (all of us) expend so much energy and enthusiasm here on Wikipedia while nature's most beautiful creatures disappear. And yes, that means you can call me a tree-hugger (amongst other things...!). But whenever I look at things like this I can't imagine why anything could be more important than preserving these things for the future. Wikipedia rocks, but so does reality. So, a lame-arsed attempt perhaps, but nevertheless, a snowy olive-branch. The Rambling Man ( talk) 22:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I like how you put this: "This isn't requests for whether my nominators know me well or not-ship." [1] An apt comment. ☺ Coppertwig ( talk) 02:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
In addition to your beer, I wanted to give you a blue barnstar, but it disappeared from Commons! Since you previously deleted this file, could you recover the deleted version here and then reupload it to Commons (or at least undelete and I'll send it to Commons). Thanks :) - Nard 03:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
(You might be interested) - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 16:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my RFA; even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your comments that I am good at communicating, because that was what I was really trying to improve from my first RFA. I hope to see you around IRC and Wikipedia!-- daniel folsom 03:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
[2] Yeah, I meant to remove that after the new formatting started getting done. Whoopsie. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop you a line to remind you of what you should already know. You're a terrific and much-valued contributor to Wikipedia.
Whatever you do about the criticism you've received, and however much accuracy there is in any of it, strap this truth firmly to your editing heart and emerge from the mess an even more terrific and much-valued contributor to Wikipedia. -- Dweller ( talk) 10:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey Majorly,
Could I get you to look at this? It is a proposal to adding wording to the RfA page. Based on our last communicatiosn during a recent discussion at WT:RFA, I don't think you would oppose this, but wanted to get your input before proceeding. Basically, it is not a policy, but a warning and disclaimer. The warning is that newbies are "strongly encouraged" not to start and RfA and a disclaimer in that they need to familiarize themselves with the current trends at RfAs.--- Balloonman PoppaBalloon 16:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
On the advice of someone who means the world to me, I'm going to step away from your RFC now, your blog, and all else. At least for the time being. You've taken some hard hits the past couple days, and it's obvious that you're not going to be able to take any criticism from me. That is much my own fault for my poor approach in criticizing you for the past many months.
That said, had I read my email this morning instead of five minutes ago, today would have gone much differently. Regardless, I walk away now, but this is not a promise not to file an RFAR. Rather, it is me taking a leap and assuming good faith despite your recent blog comment that I literally do not know how to take any other way. Instead, I am basing this decision on the words and faith of another. As I have said many times before, if your behavior improves, I'll be left with nothing to criticize. So far, you've not taken that path. Hopefully this time will be different.
It's more than just RFA, Maj. Improve in all the areas of concern, from the many participants in the RFC. If you want to retain your adminship, your behavior has to improve. Reread the RFC without looking at the names, and consider the number of people calling for your tools. This is a real possibility, Majorly. And one I know you don't want. Jennavecia (Talk) 20:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I love your blog, but it makes me wonder if Wikipedia is that cool. — Byeitical ( talk · contribs) 07:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
The Bitch Barnstar |
For you...
-- creaɯy! Talk 23:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Heya Alex - I'm not really keeping up with WikiDrahmaz these days but I couldn't help noticing your RfC. First off, I don't necessarily agree with a lot of things you've done. However, as tends to happen with these things, it's turned into a teensy bit of a witch hunt, which must be pretty rough. And, as you may remember, at one point I was extremely supportive of you gaining adminship :) So - chin up, and take as much good stuff from it as possible. Some opinions are worth more than others, but do give them all a chance for now.
And smile! Nothing's THAT bad. :) ~ Riana ⁂ 03:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Majorly, thank you for the nomination – I've now accepted it. Jamie ☆ S93 20:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Greetings, I'm not sure we've met and perhaps this isn't the best pt of introduction. Nevertheless, you might want to consider striking out or removing some of your comments on the RfA, esp those that are perceived in a negative light due to repeated questioning/argumentation with oppose votes. Yes, I realize from your comments that you feel you are justified. But, rightly or wrongly, the perception of those comments does not tend to match your rationale, and it may be detrimental to a fair assessment of the candidate. Thanks for your consideration, best wishes, HG | Talk 14:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I think you should go in and certify your RfC with one or more of your known socks...--- Balloonman PoppaBalloon 15:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to say I've a lot of respect for you opening up an RfC on yourself, not many people would, especially if they knew the "bloodbath" they'd receive. I've seen your conduct at RfA but I really, really don't think it's all that bad, I think you're usually just defending your POV and that's half the fun of discussion, in my opinion. That said, I haven't really looked at Giggy's huge post yet, it's quite daunting. Anyway, good luck with other areas of Wikipedia and happy editing. — Cyclonenim ( talk · contribs · email) 09:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
<outdent> Wow. Well to ruin my complimentary post ;) — Cyclonenim ( talk · contribs · email) 22:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Majorly. I don't think we've ever had a dispute before, or even spoken with each other, at least not that I can recall. Looking at the current RFAR and RFC about your sysop status, it seems very likely that you can no longer be an effective administrator, due to loss of community confidence, and that ArbCom is extremely likely to remove your sysop access. Under these circumstances, I think it would be best for Wikipedia, and probably for yourself, to resign. It's just a website and sysophood is no big deal. Many members of the community will think well of you for doing the honorable thing, and you'll be able to continue participating here in many areas. I hope you will consider this idea. Best regards, Jehochman Talk 20:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you are old enough for one of these, but I couldn't care less, you need one. Be well. Keeper ǀ 76 21:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I see you've got a beer, good start. You have mail as well, but I also wanted to give you something seldom witnessed in nature by anyone. It upsets me enormously me to think that we (all of us) expend so much energy and enthusiasm here on Wikipedia while nature's most beautiful creatures disappear. And yes, that means you can call me a tree-hugger (amongst other things...!). But whenever I look at things like this I can't imagine why anything could be more important than preserving these things for the future. Wikipedia rocks, but so does reality. So, a lame-arsed attempt perhaps, but nevertheless, a snowy olive-branch. The Rambling Man ( talk) 22:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I like how you put this: "This isn't requests for whether my nominators know me well or not-ship." [1] An apt comment. ☺ Coppertwig ( talk) 02:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
In addition to your beer, I wanted to give you a blue barnstar, but it disappeared from Commons! Since you previously deleted this file, could you recover the deleted version here and then reupload it to Commons (or at least undelete and I'll send it to Commons). Thanks :) - Nard 03:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
(You might be interested) - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 16:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my RFA; even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your comments that I am good at communicating, because that was what I was really trying to improve from my first RFA. I hope to see you around IRC and Wikipedia!-- daniel folsom 03:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
[2] Yeah, I meant to remove that after the new formatting started getting done. Whoopsie. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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