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Heya Majory. I saw that you had inquired on User talk:Ryulong about jpgordon’s block of EverybodyHatesChris. I thought you might be interested in some of the background about this user. He was initially blocked about six months ago by Ryulong for trolling and harassment. Throughout the duration of his block, he used an army of block evading sockpuppets to edit his favorite articles and harass those who challenged him on his article ownership and other bad behavior. Jpgordon performed a checkuser about two months ago on EHC to uncover some of his socks back then.

A couple weeks ago, administrator Isotope23 decided to give EHC a second chance at acting right; Isotope23 was willing to chalk up EHC’s recent bad behavior to frustration about his ongoing block. Some editors familiar with EHC’s behavior and attitude, myself included, were less than thrilled about this. I raised a bit of a fuss about it on ANI, but ultimately, it is Isotope’s prerogative to extend EHC a second chance.

EHC’s second chance did not go so well, as you can tell. He started back up with the article ownership, driving all other contributors away from the articles on his beat. Isotope tried to address the issue with him on his talk page, to no avail. Yesterday he got himself in an edit war over a tag and broke the three-revert rule. This apparently prompted Jpgordon to do another checkuser. He found that EHC had been making new socks, and probably concluded that he was getting ready to go back to his old ways.

Anyway, I just didn’t want you to get the wrong idea about the whole thing. Cheers, ➪ HiDrNick! 21:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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Yes, good to see you've accepted reality. :-) Seriously though, you hit the nail on the head. Unlike an AfD, where there are lots of complex arguments and citation of policy and guidelines - making it more like a judicial decision than a vote-count - there are no real considerations at RfA other than the number of votes. People can disagree in good faith about what makes a good admin; it's very subjective, and there's no "right" or "wrong" answer, only more popular and less popular answers. Any exercise of discretion by the bureaucrats is therefore by its nature both controversial and undesirable. I also agree with you in principle that RfB ought to be easier to pass - the reason I'm nonetheless a frequent opposer on RfBs is because some people have run on highly controversial platforms of changing RfA to make it "less like a vote". But given your change of heart, I will support you next time you run for bureaucratship. Walton One 11:06, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

From your thoughts re the above How can "consensus" be two different percentages. Dead right. Couldn't agree more. Pedro :  Chat  11:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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Your Arthur Segal hook has been added to the next update page. I added an inline citation because I had difficulty finding it at first. Thank you for your contribution. Archtransit ( talk) 20:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It is already referenced, but not inline. Majorly ( talk) 20:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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I know...

this has absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia, but are the buses in Manchester still going on strike on Tuesday and Thursday? Best, Rudget talk 14:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe so, but I don't normally use buses. Sent you an email btw. Majorly ( talk) 14:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I see. Sent you an email. Rudget talk 16:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, try sending again, I don't appear to have received. Majorly ( talk) 16:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Sent now. Don't know why it didn't work. And your email registered as junk. Hmmmm.... Rudget talk 16:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh how rude. Got it now, cheers. Majorly ( talk) 16:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Exactly :) I hope you don't find it offensive. Reading over what I wrote, it sounds like I'm saying it really smug Rudget talk 16:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Nah, not what you wrote. The fact it thought my email was junk is pretty rude :) Your reply was fine. Majorly ( talk) 16:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
That's hotmail for you. :) Rudget talk 16:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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DYK

DYK is 10 hours late. We've lost one entire cycle and almost a 2nd one. About 2 days ago, 2 cycles were lost. Please help move the next updates to the main page. I am working on it now. Will be ready in minutes. One of your DYK hooks is in the next update. I'm working as fast as I can. Thanks. Archtransit ( talk) 17:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Next updates to the main page? Do you mean the actual template? If so, I can't, not an admin. Majorly ( talk) 17:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Ha, ha...thought you were an administrator! It's someone else with a user name starting with "M" that frequents the DYK page. Sorry! Archtransit ( talk) 20:15, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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Well done again Majorly. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 05:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Were you formerly an administrator? If so, what happened? Archtransit ( talk) 21:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Archtransit - he resigned. If you can help persuade him to just go to WP:BN and ask for his tools back the better for everyone. He's one of the best admins and editors here, despite our own personal ups and downs. Pedro :  Chat  21:08, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Steward elections

Will you be updating the table soon? Majorly ( talk) 16:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Now updating – Gurch 17:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Make sure it's this year's: it's showing last year's candidates. Majorly ( talk) 17:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that was a test. Unfortunately it seems someone decided to completely change the format of the voting since I last checked it and didn't tell me, so I've just had to completely rewrite the script. It doesn't help that, for example, some people's votes all start with "#" and some all start with ":#". I think it's all working correctly now, though – Gurch 17:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Good luck! ;)

Small gift for you / Bronntanas beaga dhuitse :) - Alison 07:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! (And what does mean?) Majorly ( talk) 13:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome :) And the words above are just a translation of "Small gift for you"!! - Alison 16:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Wow! I never knew that there was a steward election (just like a Requests for adminship). Do I meet the qualifications to vote? My account on Wikipedia was created months before August of this year, and I do have an account on Meta (however that account was created after August 07).-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. ( talk) 21:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I got my answer from Redux. I can vote! Woohoo!-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. ( talk) 21:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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Heya Majory. I saw that you had inquired on User talk:Ryulong about jpgordon’s block of EverybodyHatesChris. I thought you might be interested in some of the background about this user. He was initially blocked about six months ago by Ryulong for trolling and harassment. Throughout the duration of his block, he used an army of block evading sockpuppets to edit his favorite articles and harass those who challenged him on his article ownership and other bad behavior. Jpgordon performed a checkuser about two months ago on EHC to uncover some of his socks back then.

A couple weeks ago, administrator Isotope23 decided to give EHC a second chance at acting right; Isotope23 was willing to chalk up EHC’s recent bad behavior to frustration about his ongoing block. Some editors familiar with EHC’s behavior and attitude, myself included, were less than thrilled about this. I raised a bit of a fuss about it on ANI, but ultimately, it is Isotope’s prerogative to extend EHC a second chance.

EHC’s second chance did not go so well, as you can tell. He started back up with the article ownership, driving all other contributors away from the articles on his beat. Isotope tried to address the issue with him on his talk page, to no avail. Yesterday he got himself in an edit war over a tag and broke the three-revert rule. This apparently prompted Jpgordon to do another checkuser. He found that EHC had been making new socks, and probably concluded that he was getting ready to go back to his old ways.

Anyway, I just didn’t want you to get the wrong idea about the whole thing. Cheers, ➪ HiDrNick! 21:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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Yes, good to see you've accepted reality. :-) Seriously though, you hit the nail on the head. Unlike an AfD, where there are lots of complex arguments and citation of policy and guidelines - making it more like a judicial decision than a vote-count - there are no real considerations at RfA other than the number of votes. People can disagree in good faith about what makes a good admin; it's very subjective, and there's no "right" or "wrong" answer, only more popular and less popular answers. Any exercise of discretion by the bureaucrats is therefore by its nature both controversial and undesirable. I also agree with you in principle that RfB ought to be easier to pass - the reason I'm nonetheless a frequent opposer on RfBs is because some people have run on highly controversial platforms of changing RfA to make it "less like a vote". But given your change of heart, I will support you next time you run for bureaucratship. Walton One 11:06, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

From your thoughts re the above How can "consensus" be two different percentages. Dead right. Couldn't agree more. Pedro :  Chat  11:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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Majorly, you are a majorly awesome: beaurocrat, admin, and others. I officially award you this Invisible Barnstar for your behind-the-scenes work on Wikipedia. http://www.en.wikipedia.org/user:flaminglawyer 04:22, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK added

Your Arthur Segal hook has been added to the next update page. I added an inline citation because I had difficulty finding it at first. Thank you for your contribution. Archtransit ( talk) 20:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It is already referenced, but not inline. Majorly ( talk) 20:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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-- Balloonman ( talk) 03:28, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I know...

this has absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia, but are the buses in Manchester still going on strike on Tuesday and Thursday? Best, Rudget talk 14:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe so, but I don't normally use buses. Sent you an email btw. Majorly ( talk) 14:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I see. Sent you an email. Rudget talk 16:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, try sending again, I don't appear to have received. Majorly ( talk) 16:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Sent now. Don't know why it didn't work. And your email registered as junk. Hmmmm.... Rudget talk 16:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh how rude. Got it now, cheers. Majorly ( talk) 16:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Exactly :) I hope you don't find it offensive. Reading over what I wrote, it sounds like I'm saying it really smug Rudget talk 16:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Nah, not what you wrote. The fact it thought my email was junk is pretty rude :) Your reply was fine. Majorly ( talk) 16:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
That's hotmail for you. :) Rudget talk 16:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Re. your edit summary, I love new messages. And get googlemail, I've since stopped using my hotmail account for email since I discovered it. Majorly ( talk) 17:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

DYK is 10 hours late. We've lost one entire cycle and almost a 2nd one. About 2 days ago, 2 cycles were lost. Please help move the next updates to the main page. I am working on it now. Will be ready in minutes. One of your DYK hooks is in the next update. I'm working as fast as I can. Thanks. Archtransit ( talk) 17:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Next updates to the main page? Do you mean the actual template? If so, I can't, not an admin. Majorly ( talk) 17:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Ha, ha...thought you were an administrator! It's someone else with a user name starting with "M" that frequents the DYK page. Sorry! Archtransit ( talk) 20:15, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On November 26, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chambercombe Manor, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Well done again Majorly. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 05:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Were you formerly an administrator? If so, what happened? Archtransit ( talk) 21:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Archtransit - he resigned. If you can help persuade him to just go to WP:BN and ask for his tools back the better for everyone. He's one of the best admins and editors here, despite our own personal ups and downs. Pedro :  Chat  21:08, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Steward elections

Will you be updating the table soon? Majorly ( talk) 16:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Now updating – Gurch 17:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Make sure it's this year's: it's showing last year's candidates. Majorly ( talk) 17:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that was a test. Unfortunately it seems someone decided to completely change the format of the voting since I last checked it and didn't tell me, so I've just had to completely rewrite the script. It doesn't help that, for example, some people's votes all start with "#" and some all start with ":#". I think it's all working correctly now, though – Gurch 17:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Good luck! ;)

Small gift for you / Bronntanas beaga dhuitse :) - Alison 07:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! (And what does mean?) Majorly ( talk) 13:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome :) And the words above are just a translation of "Small gift for you"!! - Alison 16:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Wow! I never knew that there was a steward election (just like a Requests for adminship). Do I meet the qualifications to vote? My account on Wikipedia was created months before August of this year, and I do have an account on Meta (however that account was created after August 07).-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. ( talk) 21:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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