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It is not exactly that you didn't address the questions (though your answers could certainly be longer and improved), but it is more that I consider your responses to be inadequate/wrong.
For example, to question 1 you copied the historical view that 75-80% is 'crat discretion, but you failed to acknowledge that in the last year more RFAs have passed while having less than 75% support than have been failed while having greater than 75% support. In fact, if RFA were interpreted as a straight vote with a 75% threshold, you could predict >99% of RFA outcomes in the last year, with most of the controversy coming from promoting candidates that have less than 75% support. I expect RFB candidates to know this from the discussions at WT:RFA and to comment on the low passes and how they occur.
Your comments regarding the closing of RFAs seems to reflect an ignorance of how the process has really been functioning in practice. For example, 'crats almost never have a public dicussion about how to close a nom in advance of closing it. Doing so basically just gives people a second bite of the apple by allowing people to argue for a particular outcome both in the RFA itself and in the discussion about closing the RFA. Virtually all RFA decisions are made by a single 'crat (even in controvesial cases). Very rarely the crats will discuss a close in advance, but almost always that is amongst themselves in private. Dragons flight 03:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for playing at my fun nomination. I know it was kind of lame, but I didn't really spend much time with it. When I saw that Raul and Ral did, I decided to play off it a bit and I guess some people didn't find it funny since it was removed VERY quickly. At any rate, I'm glad that at least someone else found it amusing (or at least decided to humor me). -- After Midnight 0001 04:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi. I opposed your RfB request because you have only been around for 9 months. That is the only reason; I think you are an exceptional asset to this community, and a great RfA candidate hunter. However, I believe there are some things that only experience can show, and I believe you could use another few months. Best of luck! — Deckill er 01:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
You protected the page. I can't say that I completely disagree - I thought about protecting it myself. But I don't think that protecting it is the way to go.
User:6SJ7 didn't revert again when I pointed it out
[2] on his/her talk page; the page stayed the same for over 24 hours before your block. In the interest of trying to get everyone to discuss the issue, I think it would be better for the page to be unprotected. Do you mind if I unprotect it tomorrow?
CMummert ·
talk 16:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I know how to make the page, I just don't know what to put on it. Thanks for your help anyway! Ry Guy 18:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I had asked Taxman ( talk · contribs) to properly close my withdrawn nom (he closed my previous). I didn't know what templates would be used. Thanx. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 11:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I just want to wish you good luck for your RfB. There is a long history of failed ones, so I think you need support ;-) Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 19:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
With the end almost here, I just wanted to thank you again for offering to serve Wikipedia in this capacity, and I hope you may consider running again in the future, should this one not pass. There's no limit to how many times you can run, and people are improving on what they were criticized for on RfAs and RfBs.(Redux ran 3 times to be a bureaucrat). I agree with you that it's important to keep criticism constructive on RfAs as it's stessful enough already.-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. ( talk • contribs) 18:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there! I noticed that you vetoed my request for speedy deletion of the article on Connor Phillips. I am a new editor cautiously trying to learn what is acceptable, and I did my best to read through and apply Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. I felt the speedy deletion was merited by criterion 7 under (Articles). Therefore, I am curious about why you deemed that this article was not suitable. Please enlighten me. -- Nic Waller 09:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Majorly,
First, I admire you for being one of Wikipedia's vanguards against vandalism, so please take this criticism with a "grain of salt". Concerning your warning to the TheManFromNipplegate, both posts (I reverted the one to Nelly Furtado) were clearly ill-advised attempts at humor, and would prompt me to assume good faith, or maybe no-faith. (uw-joke1/uw-joke2). I think your message was a little strong given the situation. Obviously you disagree. It's a minor matter, but perhaps you can take the time to educate me on these things. -- Otheus 10:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Please can you tell me why my article has been deleted without allowing me any chance to alter it to conform with the rules? How am I supposed to add links to references for Jungletek Movement (as specified in the discussion of that page) without having the article to edit? I am appalled that an ambassador for one of the worlds largest (and most impartial) repository of information would remove information so readily without allowing the poster to comment/edit/feedback on your OPINIONS (and so I'm told, opinions are against the wikipedia rules). Your thoughts, while they may be in keeping with the rules of Wikipedia, are completely false, and I deserve a chance to prove myself as correct.
If the article still exists somewhere, please can you tell me how to access it so I can make the necessary changes? Surely you dont expect me to write the whole article from scratch? If you do not respond, I will have to take this up with more senior Wikipedia staff.
I am sickened at your lack of respect for my article, my thoughts and the facts that I know to be true. How can you possibly comment on this without knowledge of the subject, and then remove it (almost) without warning? Give me a chance!
Yours,
Appalled, Bristol (Selwyn Leeke)
Hi, I've left an optical question at your RfB. Thanks - Telly addict 13:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Majorly, the article should be protected with the flag/crest in place. The status quo should remain until the disupute is resolved. Stu ’Bout ye! 14:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Please could you tell me how to access the text of the article you deleted on the Dissident Sound System of Bristol? I would like to re-instate the article with the proper references that you (wikipedia administrators in general) have suggested, but unfortunately the text is lost to me. I am told I need to contact the administrators. Sounds a bit matrix to me ;) Can you tell me how this is done?
Many thanks Toad 15:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of The Godfather films in popular culture. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk/ cont) 15:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry your RfB wasn't successful, Majorly. It's a shame; I thought you would have made a great bureaucrat. You've never disappointed me. Acalamari 01:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah well, better luck next time. Thank you for volunteering to serve anyways. · AO Talk 09:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I've only just seen that you went for your RfB, otherwise I would have offered my support. Commiserations that you didn't get through this time. It looks as though the opposition to new Bureaucrats is strong at the moment. Sorry that I've been away for a couple of weeks, work demanded it and I've been away from my PC. Regards, (aeropagitica) 11:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you all very much. I think that the main concern was lack of experience, amongst other things. The "no need for any more" argument was used twice out of 28 opposes, so I think it's not that the community doesn't want anymore, it's just they want the right person for the job. I am not that person just yet, but one day, I will be. Regards, Majorly (o rly?) 13:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
No doubts whatsoever that next time you'll walk it, and you'll thoroughly deserve that. Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 13:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I found it ironic that your RfB lacked a moderator. Had Majorly been available to moderate your RfB by prompting opposers for clarity, you might have had more fair chance. Where was that guy when you needed him? Too bad your RfB didn't succeed, but your 8 June 2007 RfB#2 will. -- Jreferee 16:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
How did you do this? Viridae Talk 23:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my
Request for adminship, which finished successfully, with unanimous support of 40/0/0.
I will do my best to serve Wikipedia and the community. Again thanks. | |
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It is not exactly that you didn't address the questions (though your answers could certainly be longer and improved), but it is more that I consider your responses to be inadequate/wrong.
For example, to question 1 you copied the historical view that 75-80% is 'crat discretion, but you failed to acknowledge that in the last year more RFAs have passed while having less than 75% support than have been failed while having greater than 75% support. In fact, if RFA were interpreted as a straight vote with a 75% threshold, you could predict >99% of RFA outcomes in the last year, with most of the controversy coming from promoting candidates that have less than 75% support. I expect RFB candidates to know this from the discussions at WT:RFA and to comment on the low passes and how they occur.
Your comments regarding the closing of RFAs seems to reflect an ignorance of how the process has really been functioning in practice. For example, 'crats almost never have a public dicussion about how to close a nom in advance of closing it. Doing so basically just gives people a second bite of the apple by allowing people to argue for a particular outcome both in the RFA itself and in the discussion about closing the RFA. Virtually all RFA decisions are made by a single 'crat (even in controvesial cases). Very rarely the crats will discuss a close in advance, but almost always that is amongst themselves in private. Dragons flight 03:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for playing at my fun nomination. I know it was kind of lame, but I didn't really spend much time with it. When I saw that Raul and Ral did, I decided to play off it a bit and I guess some people didn't find it funny since it was removed VERY quickly. At any rate, I'm glad that at least someone else found it amusing (or at least decided to humor me). -- After Midnight 0001 04:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
This is just a friendly reminder that Wikipedia Weekly has been released with a new episode..... 16!
The link to all versions of Wikipedia Weekly 16 is at [1]
The OGG version is here The MP3 version (non free file format but it works on an iPod) is here
In this edition
Lots of stuff, too much to list here.
As always you can download old episodes and more at http://wikipediaweekly.com/!
Please spread the word about Wikipedia Weekly, we're trying to spread the word so that people know about the project, we've got some cool guests lined up and it makes it much more fun if people tune in! Feel free to post to the mailing lists too.... apparently not many people know about us.... yet
For Tawker and the rest of the Wikipedia Weekly crew -- Tawkerbot 06:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi. I opposed your RfB request because you have only been around for 9 months. That is the only reason; I think you are an exceptional asset to this community, and a great RfA candidate hunter. However, I believe there are some things that only experience can show, and I believe you could use another few months. Best of luck! — Deckill er 01:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
You protected the page. I can't say that I completely disagree - I thought about protecting it myself. But I don't think that protecting it is the way to go.
User:6SJ7 didn't revert again when I pointed it out
[2] on his/her talk page; the page stayed the same for over 24 hours before your block. In the interest of trying to get everyone to discuss the issue, I think it would be better for the page to be unprotected. Do you mind if I unprotect it tomorrow?
CMummert ·
talk 16:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I know how to make the page, I just don't know what to put on it. Thanks for your help anyway! Ry Guy 18:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I had asked Taxman ( talk · contribs) to properly close my withdrawn nom (he closed my previous). I didn't know what templates would be used. Thanx. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 11:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I just want to wish you good luck for your RfB. There is a long history of failed ones, so I think you need support ;-) Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 19:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
With the end almost here, I just wanted to thank you again for offering to serve Wikipedia in this capacity, and I hope you may consider running again in the future, should this one not pass. There's no limit to how many times you can run, and people are improving on what they were criticized for on RfAs and RfBs.(Redux ran 3 times to be a bureaucrat). I agree with you that it's important to keep criticism constructive on RfAs as it's stessful enough already.-- U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. ( talk • contribs) 18:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there! I noticed that you vetoed my request for speedy deletion of the article on Connor Phillips. I am a new editor cautiously trying to learn what is acceptable, and I did my best to read through and apply Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. I felt the speedy deletion was merited by criterion 7 under (Articles). Therefore, I am curious about why you deemed that this article was not suitable. Please enlighten me. -- Nic Waller 09:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Majorly,
First, I admire you for being one of Wikipedia's vanguards against vandalism, so please take this criticism with a "grain of salt". Concerning your warning to the TheManFromNipplegate, both posts (I reverted the one to Nelly Furtado) were clearly ill-advised attempts at humor, and would prompt me to assume good faith, or maybe no-faith. (uw-joke1/uw-joke2). I think your message was a little strong given the situation. Obviously you disagree. It's a minor matter, but perhaps you can take the time to educate me on these things. -- Otheus 10:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Please can you tell me why my article has been deleted without allowing me any chance to alter it to conform with the rules? How am I supposed to add links to references for Jungletek Movement (as specified in the discussion of that page) without having the article to edit? I am appalled that an ambassador for one of the worlds largest (and most impartial) repository of information would remove information so readily without allowing the poster to comment/edit/feedback on your OPINIONS (and so I'm told, opinions are against the wikipedia rules). Your thoughts, while they may be in keeping with the rules of Wikipedia, are completely false, and I deserve a chance to prove myself as correct.
If the article still exists somewhere, please can you tell me how to access it so I can make the necessary changes? Surely you dont expect me to write the whole article from scratch? If you do not respond, I will have to take this up with more senior Wikipedia staff.
I am sickened at your lack of respect for my article, my thoughts and the facts that I know to be true. How can you possibly comment on this without knowledge of the subject, and then remove it (almost) without warning? Give me a chance!
Yours,
Appalled, Bristol (Selwyn Leeke)
Hi, I've left an optical question at your RfB. Thanks - Telly addict 13:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Majorly, the article should be protected with the flag/crest in place. The status quo should remain until the disupute is resolved. Stu ’Bout ye! 14:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Please could you tell me how to access the text of the article you deleted on the Dissident Sound System of Bristol? I would like to re-instate the article with the proper references that you (wikipedia administrators in general) have suggested, but unfortunately the text is lost to me. I am told I need to contact the administrators. Sounds a bit matrix to me ;) Can you tell me how this is done?
Many thanks Toad 15:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of The Godfather films in popular culture. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk/ cont) 15:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry your RfB wasn't successful, Majorly. It's a shame; I thought you would have made a great bureaucrat. You've never disappointed me. Acalamari 01:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah well, better luck next time. Thank you for volunteering to serve anyways. · AO Talk 09:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I've only just seen that you went for your RfB, otherwise I would have offered my support. Commiserations that you didn't get through this time. It looks as though the opposition to new Bureaucrats is strong at the moment. Sorry that I've been away for a couple of weeks, work demanded it and I've been away from my PC. Regards, (aeropagitica) 11:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you all very much. I think that the main concern was lack of experience, amongst other things. The "no need for any more" argument was used twice out of 28 opposes, so I think it's not that the community doesn't want anymore, it's just they want the right person for the job. I am not that person just yet, but one day, I will be. Regards, Majorly (o rly?) 13:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
No doubts whatsoever that next time you'll walk it, and you'll thoroughly deserve that. Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 13:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I found it ironic that your RfB lacked a moderator. Had Majorly been available to moderate your RfB by prompting opposers for clarity, you might have had more fair chance. Where was that guy when you needed him? Too bad your RfB didn't succeed, but your 8 June 2007 RfB#2 will. -- Jreferee 16:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
How did you do this? Viridae Talk 23:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your support on my
Request for adminship, which finished successfully, with unanimous support of 40/0/0.
I will do my best to serve Wikipedia and the community. Again thanks. | |
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-- Meno25 08:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC) |