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Please do not delete sourced text as you just did. The article is not about God in the Bible, it is about God in Christianity. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 12:13, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- 'God in Christianity' means the concept of God in Christianity. The article has a scope far greater than just what the Bible says - a lot of people have written about God in Christianity since the Bible. And not all of those who consider themselves Christians have the same understanding of the Christian God. (Don't forget to sign your posts, although not edits in articles, with 4 tildes, ie ~~~~).
Dougweller (
talk) 15:35, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you don't think the article is correct, discuss it on the talk page. Don't just remove material you don't like. I thought you meant by 'God' what most Christians call 'God the Father'. Now I don't know what you mean but to be honest I don't want to discuss it, certainly on on my talk page or yours. Dougweller ( talk) 16:48, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to
User talk:Dougweller, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the
edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been
reverted. Please make use of the
sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.
Ian.thomson (
talk) 15:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please do not alter other's comments on talk pages.
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- We do not publish original thought nor original research. We're not a blog, we're not here to promote any ideology.
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- Articles are to be written from a neutral point of view. Wikipedia is not concerned with facts or opinions, it just summarizes reliable sources with due weight. Real scholarship actually does not say what understanding of the world is "true," but only with what there is evidence for. In the case of science, this evidence must ultimately start with physical evidence. In the case of religion, this means only reporting what has been written and not taking any stance on doctrine.
Your edits to God in Christianity went very much against these guidelines and policies: they replaced with objective statements of what the most common doctrinal views are with your personal views. While you are free to believe whatever you want, this site is only going to describe what has been notable (which you and your beliefs are not) and well-documented. Since the majority of Christians throughout the world and history have used the doctrine of the Trinity to explain the Biblically undefined relationship between the transcendent Father, the personality of Jesus, and the immanent Holy Spirit, most of the article is going to be about the Trinity. Wikipedia is not concerned with what doctrine is true or false, but with simply documenting the beliefs of notable groups. As the majority of Christians historically accept the Trinity, to say that Christianity regards the Trinity as false is completely incorrect by Wikipedia's standards. A completely mistaken outsider interpretation of the Islamic interpretation of the Trinity is about as pointless as including a mistaken outsider interpretation of the Catholic interpretation of the Hindu Trimurti.
Simply put, your personal views do not matter and Wikipedia does not want them in the articles. If you cannot distinguish between objective summary of what others believe and expounding of what you personally believe, you should not edit articles relating to any belief.
Although not this user essay goes into more detail on how Christianity and Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy interact. Ian.thomson ( talk) 16:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Welcome!
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. The following links will help you begin editing on Wikipedia:
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page
- Editing tutorial
- Picture tutorial
- How to write a great article
- Naming conventions
- Manual of Style
- Please bear these points in mind while editing Wikipedia
- Respect copyrights – do not copy and paste text or images directly from other websites.
- Maintain a neutral point of view – this is one of Wikipedia's core policies.
- Take particular care while adding biographical material about a living person to any Wikipedia page and follow Wikipedia's Biography of Living Persons policy. Particularly, controversial and negative statements should be referenced with multiple reliable sources.
- No edit warring or sock puppetry.
- If you are testing, please use the Sandbox to do so.
- Do not add troublesome content to any article, such as: copyrighted text, libel, advertising or promotional messages, and text that is not related to an article's subject. Deliberately adding such content or otherwise editing articles maliciously is considered vandalism; doing so will result in your account or IP being blocked from editing.
- Do not use talk pages as discussion or forum pages as Wikipedia is not a forum.
The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~ (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome!
Please do not delete sourced text as you just did. The article is not about God in the Bible, it is about God in Christianity. Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 12:13, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- 'God in Christianity' means the concept of God in Christianity. The article has a scope far greater than just what the Bible says - a lot of people have written about God in Christianity since the Bible. And not all of those who consider themselves Christians have the same understanding of the Christian God. (Don't forget to sign your posts, although not edits in articles, with 4 tildes, ie ~~~~).
Dougweller (
talk) 15:35, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you don't think the article is correct, discuss it on the talk page. Don't just remove material you don't like. I thought you meant by 'God' what most Christians call 'God the Father'. Now I don't know what you mean but to be honest I don't want to discuss it, certainly on on my talk page or yours. Dougweller ( talk) 16:48, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to
User talk:Dougweller, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the
edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been
reverted. Please make use of the
sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.
Ian.thomson (
talk) 15:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please do not alter other's comments on talk pages.
- Always cite a source for any new information. When adding this information to articles, using <ref>reference tags like this</ref>, containing the name of the source, the author, page number, publisher or web address (if applicable).
- "Truth" is not the criteria for inclusion, verifiability is.
- We do not publish original thought nor original research. We're not a blog, we're not here to promote any ideology.
- Reliable sources typically include: articles from magazines or newspapers (particularly scholarly journals), or books by recognized authors (basically, books by respected publishers). Online versions of these are usually accepted, provided they're held to the same standards. User generated sources (like Wikipedia) are to be avoided. Self-published sources should be avoided except for information by and about the subject that is not self-serving (for example, citing a company's website to establish something like year of establishment).
- Articles are to be written from a neutral point of view. Wikipedia is not concerned with facts or opinions, it just summarizes reliable sources with due weight. Real scholarship actually does not say what understanding of the world is "true," but only with what there is evidence for. In the case of science, this evidence must ultimately start with physical evidence. In the case of religion, this means only reporting what has been written and not taking any stance on doctrine.
Your edits to God in Christianity went very much against these guidelines and policies: they replaced with objective statements of what the most common doctrinal views are with your personal views. While you are free to believe whatever you want, this site is only going to describe what has been notable (which you and your beliefs are not) and well-documented. Since the majority of Christians throughout the world and history have used the doctrine of the Trinity to explain the Biblically undefined relationship between the transcendent Father, the personality of Jesus, and the immanent Holy Spirit, most of the article is going to be about the Trinity. Wikipedia is not concerned with what doctrine is true or false, but with simply documenting the beliefs of notable groups. As the majority of Christians historically accept the Trinity, to say that Christianity regards the Trinity as false is completely incorrect by Wikipedia's standards. A completely mistaken outsider interpretation of the Islamic interpretation of the Trinity is about as pointless as including a mistaken outsider interpretation of the Catholic interpretation of the Hindu Trimurti.
Simply put, your personal views do not matter and Wikipedia does not want them in the articles. If you cannot distinguish between objective summary of what others believe and expounding of what you personally believe, you should not edit articles relating to any belief.
Although not this user essay goes into more detail on how Christianity and Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy interact. Ian.thomson ( talk) 16:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)