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Emuna Emuna

Thanks for my welcome Emuna Emuna ( talk) 23:40, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome :D Just i yaya 02:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ckap king on Empolis (23:24, 1 February 2022)

So your the mentor -- Ckap king ( talk) 23:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ckap king, welcome to Wikipedia, yes I am the mentor, if you have any questions, feel free to ask :D, if you want a different mentor, feel free to request a different one (reply below), thank you! Just i yaya 04:05, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Ckap king ( talk) 06:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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Chota Bheem Fan

Thanks for your help to revert those abusive edits by 115.96.151.124 thanks Chota Bheem Fan ( talk) 04:44, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

@ Chota Bheem Fan Welcome :D Just i yaya 04:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

PlinyTheMiddleChild

In regards to my pending edit that you reverted: the quoted NYTimes article does not list race as a differentiating factor. The title of the article ("Mass Shooters Are All Different. Except for One Thing: Most Are Men.") clearly indicates that the article considers gender as a differentiating factor and any other characteristic not to be a predicting factor. I find reference in the Wikipedia article to be misleading by mentioning race since the original NYTimes article does not make a case for race to be an important demographics characteristic. Immediately after this NYTimes reference, there are 2 references (Slate and Associated Press) that directly contradicts the suggestion that "white male" (vs simply "male") is over represented among mass shooters in the United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlinyTheMiddleChild ( talkcontribs) 22:40, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for messaging me PlinyTheMiddleChild, the Wikipedia article states that "According to The New York Times", and because of that, does not contain a WP:POV issue. The demographics, as you have pointed out, seems to be different with different sources, I think the section currently balances all viewpoints really well. The article cited does say "Examining past New York Times coverage of mass shootings reveals... the fact that they are most commonly white", and does mention race. There has been a revision by Mudwater that I think may address some of the issues that you pointed out, feel free to message me if you have any additional questions regarding this. Just i yaya 23:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

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Request for Mentorship

Hello Justiyaya,

I found you in the list from the Wikipedia:Growth Team features/Mentor list which I went through completely and chosen you mostly by your tech affinity. I'm specialized in IT topics and work in favor of civil rights and privacy as you can see as part of my self-introduction on my user page. Now I'm looking for a mentor to have a starting point here in the community. ARoseWolf is sadly not technical and thus I would flood her with IT topics.

Are you available for mentorship? Are you by chance available on IRC?

Greets GavriilaDmitriev ( talk) 10:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@ GavriilaDmitriev I am available for mentorship, but I'm not available on IRC. I like tech but I know like no programming languages and have trouble troubleshooting basic computer issues. Do you want me find someone who would probably be more familiar with tech and probably better suit your needs? What area of editing would you like to focus on? Just i yaya 12:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

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Greeting

Hi, Justiyaya. Thanks for the welcome, but I've been editing regularly on Wikipedia for over 15 years!

I choose not to have an account partly for personal and partly for ideological reasons.

If I were to create an account, I would feel impelled to devote even more time – more than I can afford – to thoroughly perusing all Wikipedia's policies and to more editing and admin activities: this is a personal quirk which I've experienced in the past in other hobby contexts. Yes, I'm weird.

I also take the stance that edits should individually stand or fall on their own merits, with no reliance on the editor's 'reputation.' I use a "pseudo-signature" incorporating what was once my home IP (before my ISP went to dynamic IPs) mostly in order to ensure continuity in conversations.

Perhaps soon – when I'm officially retired – I'll rethink my position and open an account, probably under my own name (which, by the way, is Terry Hunt).

Regards, {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.130.191 ( talk) 12:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your explanation, and yeah Wikipedia really taken a lot of my free time during the summer. I've found "I also take the stance that edits should individually stand or fall on their own merits, with no reliance on the editor's 'reputation.'" really interesting. At times I've found my self afraid to revert because the other editor has a high edit count or has made significant contributions when I really should've engaged in WP:BRD instead. Think I should probably keep that in mind next time :D Just i yaya 15:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Lallint (16:52, 25 February 2022)

Do you have any suggestions for cleaning up my sandbox? other than expanding media and notable people -- Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 16:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

 Reviewing... check back in about 1 hour Just i yaya 16:56, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Lallint, really good improvements to the article there in your sandbox. Although I'm not well versed in article improvement, here's some suggested changes that I came up with looking at the article for about an hour:
  1. In early 2019, Watertown was named "The Least Politically Prejudiced Place in America". [1]Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Attribution issues? in lead section as well
  2. Jefferson Community College (JCC) is located in the western part of the city near the county fairgrounds. — Is located in the geography section, probably should be moved to the education section with a reference added
  3. The article, mainly the geography, sports, media, and in popular culture sections needs more citations
  4. The Watertown Wolves have played at the municipal arena at the fairgrounds since 2012. They are a member of the Federal Prospects Hockey League and have won two titles, in 2015 and 2018. — Same sentence repeated twice in the same section
  5. In the education section "There is also a Faith Fellowship Christian School." is unreferenced
  6. In general, articles about cities don't mention individual companies in their leads ( LA, CA does not mention any and NYC only mentions 2 stock exchanges), consider removing those, unless you think that these companies are really important to the topic (the city), see MOS:LEAD
If you have any questions, or want more feedback, feel free to leave another message here, thanks and happy editing :D
Just i yaya 18:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Ripley, Amanda (2019-03-04). "The Least Politically Prejudiced Place in America". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on March 5, 2019. Retrieved 2022-02-17.
Thanks for your suggestions, I'm working on them right now, now that I think about it moving Jefferson Community College to Higher Education and giving a broad overview is a good idea and I'm surprised that I didn't think about it before. Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:06, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Lallint think it's already in the education section but needs a reference there, I'm not so sure about having a separate higher education section if there is only one college in the city that would be mentioned (is the case for the article right now). Might be offwiki for the next few hours, got things irl, good luck working on the article! Just i yaya 18:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Would adding by The Atlantic at the end of the politically prejudiced quote be good or should I say by Amanda Ripley of The Atlantic? Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Not sure, either is fine I think, personally I would just remove the quote from the lead or the article entirely if this is the only RS covering it Just i yaya 18:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
I still think it deserves a mention somewhere, though Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
So I looked it up and it turns out that quite a few other articles are also saying this Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Lallint Hmm yeah reading through the Atlantic article it seems to be analysis conducted by PredictWise for the Atlantic, maybe paraphrasing would be a better option here with intext attribution if all the newspapers point to PredictWise. Just i yaya 02:59, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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Emuna Emuna

Thanks for my welcome Emuna Emuna ( talk) 23:40, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome :D Just i yaya 02:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ckap king on Empolis (23:24, 1 February 2022)

So your the mentor -- Ckap king ( talk) 23:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ckap king, welcome to Wikipedia, yes I am the mentor, if you have any questions, feel free to ask :D, if you want a different mentor, feel free to request a different one (reply below), thank you! Just i yaya 04:05, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Ckap king ( talk) 06:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The user group oversight will be renamed suppress in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
  • The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.

Arbitration

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 03:01, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Chota Bheem Fan

Thanks for your help to revert those abusive edits by 115.96.151.124 thanks Chota Bheem Fan ( talk) 04:44, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

@ Chota Bheem Fan Welcome :D Just i yaya 04:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

PlinyTheMiddleChild

In regards to my pending edit that you reverted: the quoted NYTimes article does not list race as a differentiating factor. The title of the article ("Mass Shooters Are All Different. Except for One Thing: Most Are Men.") clearly indicates that the article considers gender as a differentiating factor and any other characteristic not to be a predicting factor. I find reference in the Wikipedia article to be misleading by mentioning race since the original NYTimes article does not make a case for race to be an important demographics characteristic. Immediately after this NYTimes reference, there are 2 references (Slate and Associated Press) that directly contradicts the suggestion that "white male" (vs simply "male") is over represented among mass shooters in the United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlinyTheMiddleChild ( talkcontribs) 22:40, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for messaging me PlinyTheMiddleChild, the Wikipedia article states that "According to The New York Times", and because of that, does not contain a WP:POV issue. The demographics, as you have pointed out, seems to be different with different sources, I think the section currently balances all viewpoints really well. The article cited does say "Examining past New York Times coverage of mass shootings reveals... the fact that they are most commonly white", and does mention race. There has been a revision by Mudwater that I think may address some of the issues that you pointed out, feel free to message me if you have any additional questions regarding this. Just i yaya 23:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

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Request for Mentorship

Hello Justiyaya,

I found you in the list from the Wikipedia:Growth Team features/Mentor list which I went through completely and chosen you mostly by your tech affinity. I'm specialized in IT topics and work in favor of civil rights and privacy as you can see as part of my self-introduction on my user page. Now I'm looking for a mentor to have a starting point here in the community. ARoseWolf is sadly not technical and thus I would flood her with IT topics.

Are you available for mentorship? Are you by chance available on IRC?

Greets GavriilaDmitriev ( talk) 10:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@ GavriilaDmitriev I am available for mentorship, but I'm not available on IRC. I like tech but I know like no programming languages and have trouble troubleshooting basic computer issues. Do you want me find someone who would probably be more familiar with tech and probably better suit your needs? What area of editing would you like to focus on? Just i yaya 12:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

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Greeting

Hi, Justiyaya. Thanks for the welcome, but I've been editing regularly on Wikipedia for over 15 years!

I choose not to have an account partly for personal and partly for ideological reasons.

If I were to create an account, I would feel impelled to devote even more time – more than I can afford – to thoroughly perusing all Wikipedia's policies and to more editing and admin activities: this is a personal quirk which I've experienced in the past in other hobby contexts. Yes, I'm weird.

I also take the stance that edits should individually stand or fall on their own merits, with no reliance on the editor's 'reputation.' I use a "pseudo-signature" incorporating what was once my home IP (before my ISP went to dynamic IPs) mostly in order to ensure continuity in conversations.

Perhaps soon – when I'm officially retired – I'll rethink my position and open an account, probably under my own name (which, by the way, is Terry Hunt).

Regards, {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.130.191 ( talk) 12:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your explanation, and yeah Wikipedia really taken a lot of my free time during the summer. I've found "I also take the stance that edits should individually stand or fall on their own merits, with no reliance on the editor's 'reputation.'" really interesting. At times I've found my self afraid to revert because the other editor has a high edit count or has made significant contributions when I really should've engaged in WP:BRD instead. Think I should probably keep that in mind next time :D Just i yaya 15:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Lallint (16:52, 25 February 2022)

Do you have any suggestions for cleaning up my sandbox? other than expanding media and notable people -- Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 16:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

 Reviewing... check back in about 1 hour Just i yaya 16:56, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Lallint, really good improvements to the article there in your sandbox. Although I'm not well versed in article improvement, here's some suggested changes that I came up with looking at the article for about an hour:
  1. In early 2019, Watertown was named "The Least Politically Prejudiced Place in America". [1]Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Attribution issues? in lead section as well
  2. Jefferson Community College (JCC) is located in the western part of the city near the county fairgrounds. — Is located in the geography section, probably should be moved to the education section with a reference added
  3. The article, mainly the geography, sports, media, and in popular culture sections needs more citations
  4. The Watertown Wolves have played at the municipal arena at the fairgrounds since 2012. They are a member of the Federal Prospects Hockey League and have won two titles, in 2015 and 2018. — Same sentence repeated twice in the same section
  5. In the education section "There is also a Faith Fellowship Christian School." is unreferenced
  6. In general, articles about cities don't mention individual companies in their leads ( LA, CA does not mention any and NYC only mentions 2 stock exchanges), consider removing those, unless you think that these companies are really important to the topic (the city), see MOS:LEAD
If you have any questions, or want more feedback, feel free to leave another message here, thanks and happy editing :D
Just i yaya 18:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Ripley, Amanda (2019-03-04). "The Least Politically Prejudiced Place in America". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on March 5, 2019. Retrieved 2022-02-17.
Thanks for your suggestions, I'm working on them right now, now that I think about it moving Jefferson Community College to Higher Education and giving a broad overview is a good idea and I'm surprised that I didn't think about it before. Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:06, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Lallint think it's already in the education section but needs a reference there, I'm not so sure about having a separate higher education section if there is only one college in the city that would be mentioned (is the case for the article right now). Might be offwiki for the next few hours, got things irl, good luck working on the article! Just i yaya 18:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Would adding by The Atlantic at the end of the politically prejudiced quote be good or should I say by Amanda Ripley of The Atlantic? Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Not sure, either is fine I think, personally I would just remove the quote from the lead or the article entirely if this is the only RS covering it Just i yaya 18:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
I still think it deserves a mention somewhere, though Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
So I looked it up and it turns out that quite a few other articles are also saying this Lallint⟫⟫⟫ Talk 18:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Lallint Hmm yeah reading through the Atlantic article it seems to be analysis conducted by PredictWise for the Atlantic, maybe paraphrasing would be a better option here with intext attribution if all the newspapers point to PredictWise. Just i yaya 02:59, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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