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If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Bench press, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest. Note that your site would not be considered a reliable source suitable for verifying information. WLU ( talk) 02:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
RESPONSE: What are you talking about? I have no associations with the people who own the websites referenced in my edit. What close connections do you allege? There is no conflict of interest. In the future you should not make unfounded comments and let the facts speak for themselves. Facts like those listed in the Guinness Book of World Records and documented with the International Powerlifting Federation. My questions to you are:
I just saw on your page that you brag about your number of edits. How weird. It's not a real number of edits if you are making incorrect assumptions and erasing honest changes that others worked so hard on. Please don't let me catch you doing this again. I will have to report you.
My response is: No. That is not correct Mr. Pritchard. WLU did not “just give advice.” WLU deleted my entry. He took action based on his assumption that I am in some way related to the person in the edit. He based this assumption on the fact that we have the same last name. How many surnames are listed in Wikipedia? Clan Henderson is listed. Henderson is one of the most common surnames in the in the English speaking World! I understand that WLU possibly didn’t know this, but it is much more probable that he didn’t care. Why else would he delete the entry? It is much more possible that he just wanted to reach a higher score on his stupid little edit count, which he boasts so fondly of. You can debate the difference between the definitions of accuse and advise all you want, but there is little doubt of his malice. He deleted my research from the site based solely on my surname! That sir is not good judgment and I also question your judgment for defending such a hack. I did not threaten WLU. I guarantee if he ever removes research from edits based on some ones last name, I WILL report him. Editor’s qualifications are the MOST important inquiries we should be making on Wikipedia. Who are you to say otherwise? I am not a part of WLU’s community and unlike you I don’t wish to build anything with someone so quick to judge and forego an apology when he is wrong. His qualifications on the bench press are nil, his edits are a fraud, and his bench press contribution spoke danger for Wikipedia. His advice? What advice? He is wrong. His advice was that I might have a close connection to the entry. He was wrong. And so are you for being his crony. Why don't you take a stand. Next time tell your cowardly buddy to write me himself and to stop deleting edits based on his almighty whim. -- Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 08:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Josh, It is my opinion that my edits should not be reverted based solely on my last name, and I am pretty sure that Wikipedia would boldly agree. I am not aware of the depth of your relationship with WLU but if you are his friend please try to point out to him what he did was wrong. I don’t have a problem with reverts, but don’t revert me just because of my surname. I disagree with you that our community is hinged on us getting along. In fact Wikipedia grows because of discussion, debate and argument. WLU made the mistake of reverting me based on my family’s name. I challenge you to show me that you have been reverted because you are a Pritchard, and if you ever get challenged based soley on the fact you are a Pritchard, then sir you will know why WLU should apologize. I have made no personal attacks. I have been the victim of one. My edit is sourced and always has been. That was never the issue. When you look at my source you will see that I sourced the “drug free” portion not the date he did it. The “we believe” references the year in which the press was done, not if it was drug free. I disagree with you on websites not being sources. I see them everywhere on Wikipedia. Even the Scott Mendelson record sources a website. Maybe that should be removed? What about the Guinness Book of World Records I used? Is that a good source? By your standars the Mendy record should come down and Big James’ should stay. I don’t agree to that. I have done some “research” and agree WLU has contributed a great deal and his slip shod effort here is not indicative of his overall work. Thank you for your time in this matter. -- Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 15:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I advice you to listen to what User:WLU says and learn about editing Wikipedia. Igor Berger ( talk) 08:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Here is what you said: “I advice you to listen to what User:WLU says and learn about editing Wikipedia.” First of all the word you are trying to use is advise, which is a verb, not advice which is a noun and when used as a noun in your sentence, it makes you sound illiterate in the english language and incapable of editing in Wikipedia. My "advise" to you would be keep your “advise” literate but most importantly keep it to to yourself because I am not interested in your opinions just the facts. -- Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 08:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.-- Yankees76 ( talk) 13:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Response: I did not attack anyone. I defended myself. Please stop editing records you have no knowledge in. And, a hearty welcome to Wikipedia to you also!
One does not need to be an expert on a subject in order to edit an article on Wikipedia. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson you're mistaken in your assumption that other editors who are editing what you feel is your area of expertise are not qualified to do so. Anyone may edit any article at anytime. That's what makes Wikipedia work. Right now some of your statements here are bordering on incivility, and wether you beleive they are or not, are indeed personal attacks. And while I may not be an expert in searching on the internet for bench press records or understand what federations drug test and what don't, I do have a very good grasp of how things work on Wikipedia - and this entire situation needs to be diffused ASAP. I would suggest that those involved take a step back from editing the article in question, stop the name calling, lose the attitude, rudeness, and the judgemental tone, give WP:CIVILITY a close read and then work towards a consensus. -- Quarte t 05:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Jeffrey, please make sure to sign your posts -- it is getting difficult to determine where you end and someone else begins. You do this with the 4 tildes '~~~~'. Also, it is typical to use a colon to indent your comments...so in this case, I'm the first commenter. If you reply to me, you'll add 1 colon to the beginning of your statement, if I reply to it, I'll add 2...it also makes it easier to follow. Thanks. Josh.Pritchard.DBA ( talk) 01:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Regards this revert, and the accompanying warning, here's my reasoning.
Note, in regards to some of your comments above, that qualifications are actually irrelevant on wikipedia, and claiming qualifications has led to major scandals including an editor being permanently blocked by Jimbo Wales. Anyone can claim qualifications, far more important is reliable sources and verification of claims. Anyone who claims expertise should easily be able to verify their claims with reliable sources, making diplomas completely irrelevant.
Please also review WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL - you can assume that I'm targeting you unfairly and that my contribution was based on bad faith, but I usually have a pretty good reason for my editing. And if I'm wrong, I'm usually willing to discuss, as most editors are on wikipedia. I'm also unsure where you would have reported me and for what. Being polite is usually a more productive path than threats and taking umbrage. You are correct that having a high edit count isn't automatically evidence of a good editor, but it's usually a middling indication that they're worth talking to. Several thousand edits usually means a good familiarity with the project and the community.
If you're interested, here is an essay that you might find useful as a general introduction to wikipedia. You've already mastered one step - signing your talk page posts, which is very handy for other editors and saves a lot of aggravation for future readers. Thanks, please let me know if you have any questions or further comments; I'm watching your talk page for the next little while in case, but you can also drop me a line on my talk page. WLU ( talk) 00:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Big James Henderson. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.-- Quarte t 13:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people.
OhNoitsJamie
Talk 14:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Whether your problem is mental, drugs or steroid rage, we don't want you here. Please go away and hatefully disrupt something else. 76.14.110.81 ( talk) 02:53, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I see you *have* been here a while. It was that "this hurts" part in the Bench Press article that made me warn you. WadeSimMiser ( talk) 22:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Rather than edit-war by reverting all the time, I strongly suggest you wait for consensus to develop on the article's talk page. The discussion is still new and this disruption is unhelpful. Thanks. -- Rodhull andemu 17:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I am not upset by having my addition to the article 'challenged.' I take offense to it being 'removed' by an admin. I take issue to the fact that you acting in the manner of an editor. There is no reason to remove the edit except for the fact that you are another one of those admins that harass editors, like ohnoitsjamie. I feel admins like you and ohnoitsjamie should take a break from being an admin. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 19:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
It is funny how the same two admins stalk me around and incite this kind of thread. Will there be an admin who stands up and shows me how to complain against this harassment? Is there no help for the downtrodden and abused on wikipedia? Help! Help! Help! Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 07:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at
talk:insanity, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. The comments on talk:insanity are grossly unnecessary and indicate that in the year you have been here, you have not learned that civility is a trait to be cultivated. The problem with the quote on insanity is not regards its
verifiability, it's regards what
wikipedia is not, in this case
not a directory, a section which explicitly includes quotations. I suggest in the future, if you are running into issues with the content you are trying to add, you ask the removing editor politely on their talk page what the issue is and what
policies and guidelines their edit is based on. Then review the policy/guideline, and then discuss based on that.
Wikipedia is not a battleground and if you continue to approach it as one, you will face escalating
blocks. With less than 200 edits you have a lot to learn. If you continue to approach talk pages as you do right now, you will not get a chance to learn anything.
WLU
(t)
(c) Wikipedia's rules:
simple/
complex 12:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know, I've never had any history with you; your name was certainly unfamiliar to me until I investigated your actions following the report on the Administrator's Noticeboard. As a completely uninvolved administrator, I echo both WLU's explanations, and his warning. TenOfAllTrades( talk) 16:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to help me become a better editor. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 21:21, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at
Talk:Insanity, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. There you go, I have no history with you, so as you don't believe
User:WLU should be allowed to interact with you, please accept the same warning from a previously uninvolved editor
Mayalld (
talk) 16:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
[redacted] WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 18:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) For clarity, I am not an admin, and have never had any previous dealings with you. You should understand that issuing warnings is not something that is restricted to admins. Any editor can take another editor to task through the graduated warnings process if they breach policy. An admin only need become involved if you are repeatedly warned, but don't take heed. At that point, the admin would review your edits, and confirm that the warnings were appropriate before deciding on a course of action.
I do not feel that you have been victimised here. The simple fact is that Wikipedia has policies, and that you breached those policies, and that you continued to breach them after being warned not to. Many of the admins that you complain about might have entirely justifiably blocked you for your repeated breaches, but chose instead to try to persuade you to reform.
We are at a crossroads here. You can either heed the warnings, and determine to abide by policy, or you can decide to fight a perceived enemy. If you choose the latter, it is inevitable that you will be blocked. I urge you to accept that the admins were correct, and that you need to take on board what has been said to you. Mayalld ( talk) 21:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a comment, but when you say "I have had more problems from this Quartet person than anyone. If you had an edit that you knew was verifiable, but it kept being removed by a user that has made it clear he was interested in having you banned" you should be aware that a content dispute is not vandalism. For the record, before December 22 I've made 2 edits to the bench press article (1 to re-add a maintenance tag, the other reverting a spam link), and have removed "your" content only today (Dec. 30) My removal was not limited to the information you've added and I explained in the edit summary why the material I removed was removed. Please be clear on what Wikipedia considers vandalism and especially what is not vandalism before throwing this word around. This [5] is considered vandalism to the bench press article, the edits I've made are not. -- Quarte t 23:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
..I thought you should know that if you are resigned to make no further effort in improving your outlook I'm left with reporting the insulting and crass statements you've made to AN/I ( Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User_Jeffrey_Pierce_Henderson). I'm sorry we couldn't make more progress. Padillah ( talk) 14:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 48 hours as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our policies concerning neutral point of view and biographies of living persons will not be tolerated. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
The person who has blocked me is one of the same people I have been trying to get relief from through a mentoring process. I made no disruptive edits and those edits I did make were only to my mentoring page. This action has no basis in standard procedure, and I appeal the vindictive action. This action is usually used to handle disruptive edits to articles and there is no precedent that it should be used to squelch the cries for relief of new editors. I regret that my 'mentor' failed and quit, but I believe that the activity of the clique that harasses me to no end should be uncovered. I request that another Admin besides this one who has blocked me review the issue. I will accept the decision anyone else, but DO NOT accept this person as final. This person leads a small group of editors and admins and they have stalked my edits vehemently for months now. I have been trying to get assistance to get this 'cabal' to leave me alone to no avail. These four people include WLU, Ohnoitsjamie, Yankees76, and Quartet. These people have been on top of me for no reason except that I edited the Bench Press article to remove their 'champion' and put in the true champion. When WLU staed it was vandalism, I had to fight tooth and nail to get him to allow it. When Yankees76 fought that the reference was not verifiable, I won that argument with the assistance of the Guinness Book of World Records and the data provided by organizations recognized by the USOC. When I added a bio page for the lifter of note, Quartet tried to get it removed but he failed. Then when I tried to put a photo up on the site that I own the rights to Ohnoitsjamie ripped it down without any mercy. Keep in mind I am a new editors that has been trying to learn this process as I go. I have no delusions that my methods are blunt. I asked for assistance many times but every chance these four people always made a point to stop me from getting help to get away from them. Now Ohnoitsjamie gets to rule on my block? It just smacks of a Kangaroo Court. Please don't allow this to continue for other editors. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 10:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Per comments below and WP:NOTTHEM. — Daniel Case ( talk) 16:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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And OH NO! Look who showed up. Is it the MILLIONS of other editors or hundreds of other admins for Wikipedia ready to discuss the atrocity occurring here? No. Just the usual suspects. Methinks they doth protest too much. Ohnoitsjamie says I was warned numerous times about personal attacks but the only ‘evidence’ he links has no warning by him for personal attacks. He says I attacked the person 'kind enough to mentor me' but his link shows no comment by me. He says that ‘If I didn't block you, someone else would have.’ Stand back everyone. The omniscient Ohnoitsjamie is going to predict the future actions of all other Admins. Case and point. Ohnoitsjamie is not interested in the appearance of an impartial decision. He would rather save us all the time that justice takes and act as accuser, jury, and executioner. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 01:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I am having trouble finding where I was told "Don't type other editors names". Could someone help me find it please? Thank you. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 18:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
An issue regarding your conduct has been opened on the AN/I page. There is discussion regarding the length of your current block. I did not open this issue, I patrol AN/I and came accross it as opened by another editor. I've asked them to notify editors when AN/I issues are opened in the future. Padillah ( talk) 17:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Who is Komrade Kiev? Is he a machine or not? Is it possible to personally attack a machine? In order to be personally attacked, don't you by definition have to be a person? What exactly was the 'personal' attack? Case in point. Some Admins don't teach their interpretation of 'personal attack' and how to respond correctly. They are interested in telling you when they are going to block you. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 22:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I am showing nothing on his site. Should Admins be able to block access to their talk pages? It gives the impression that they are above reproach. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 23:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Oops misread that. Hrm, you're saying an Admin has their page protected? KillerChihuahua ?!? 01:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Before I answer your request, I have a few questions and comments:
Let me know. You can answer here, I will watch. KillerChihuahua ?!? 01:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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Howdy hello! You recently added a dispute at third opinion, but I'm not sure if I could find it. Third opinion is used for mediating disputes between 2 people. Could you point me to the issue you're having, and provide some diffs/evidence of discussion? If you're not in a dispute, third opinion is probably not the place for this question. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 05:00, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Howdy Capt. I edited the article Mt. Ararat to include information that is clearly in the Hebrew text. It was reverted with the words "No its not." Before I reverted it back, (and by doing so declare "yes it is") I wanted to help in how to do this. I don't want to get into religious arguments. Just the facts. Thank you for your help. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 19:35, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Captain Eek Thank you for your help. I have posted a message on the other editors page, and I will wait for the response. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 19:37, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Welcome!
Hello, Jeffrey Pierce Henderson, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Bench press, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest. Note that your site would not be considered a reliable source suitable for verifying information. WLU ( talk) 02:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
RESPONSE: What are you talking about? I have no associations with the people who own the websites referenced in my edit. What close connections do you allege? There is no conflict of interest. In the future you should not make unfounded comments and let the facts speak for themselves. Facts like those listed in the Guinness Book of World Records and documented with the International Powerlifting Federation. My questions to you are:
I just saw on your page that you brag about your number of edits. How weird. It's not a real number of edits if you are making incorrect assumptions and erasing honest changes that others worked so hard on. Please don't let me catch you doing this again. I will have to report you.
My response is: No. That is not correct Mr. Pritchard. WLU did not “just give advice.” WLU deleted my entry. He took action based on his assumption that I am in some way related to the person in the edit. He based this assumption on the fact that we have the same last name. How many surnames are listed in Wikipedia? Clan Henderson is listed. Henderson is one of the most common surnames in the in the English speaking World! I understand that WLU possibly didn’t know this, but it is much more probable that he didn’t care. Why else would he delete the entry? It is much more possible that he just wanted to reach a higher score on his stupid little edit count, which he boasts so fondly of. You can debate the difference between the definitions of accuse and advise all you want, but there is little doubt of his malice. He deleted my research from the site based solely on my surname! That sir is not good judgment and I also question your judgment for defending such a hack. I did not threaten WLU. I guarantee if he ever removes research from edits based on some ones last name, I WILL report him. Editor’s qualifications are the MOST important inquiries we should be making on Wikipedia. Who are you to say otherwise? I am not a part of WLU’s community and unlike you I don’t wish to build anything with someone so quick to judge and forego an apology when he is wrong. His qualifications on the bench press are nil, his edits are a fraud, and his bench press contribution spoke danger for Wikipedia. His advice? What advice? He is wrong. His advice was that I might have a close connection to the entry. He was wrong. And so are you for being his crony. Why don't you take a stand. Next time tell your cowardly buddy to write me himself and to stop deleting edits based on his almighty whim. -- Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 08:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Josh, It is my opinion that my edits should not be reverted based solely on my last name, and I am pretty sure that Wikipedia would boldly agree. I am not aware of the depth of your relationship with WLU but if you are his friend please try to point out to him what he did was wrong. I don’t have a problem with reverts, but don’t revert me just because of my surname. I disagree with you that our community is hinged on us getting along. In fact Wikipedia grows because of discussion, debate and argument. WLU made the mistake of reverting me based on my family’s name. I challenge you to show me that you have been reverted because you are a Pritchard, and if you ever get challenged based soley on the fact you are a Pritchard, then sir you will know why WLU should apologize. I have made no personal attacks. I have been the victim of one. My edit is sourced and always has been. That was never the issue. When you look at my source you will see that I sourced the “drug free” portion not the date he did it. The “we believe” references the year in which the press was done, not if it was drug free. I disagree with you on websites not being sources. I see them everywhere on Wikipedia. Even the Scott Mendelson record sources a website. Maybe that should be removed? What about the Guinness Book of World Records I used? Is that a good source? By your standars the Mendy record should come down and Big James’ should stay. I don’t agree to that. I have done some “research” and agree WLU has contributed a great deal and his slip shod effort here is not indicative of his overall work. Thank you for your time in this matter. -- Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 15:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I advice you to listen to what User:WLU says and learn about editing Wikipedia. Igor Berger ( talk) 08:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Here is what you said: “I advice you to listen to what User:WLU says and learn about editing Wikipedia.” First of all the word you are trying to use is advise, which is a verb, not advice which is a noun and when used as a noun in your sentence, it makes you sound illiterate in the english language and incapable of editing in Wikipedia. My "advise" to you would be keep your “advise” literate but most importantly keep it to to yourself because I am not interested in your opinions just the facts. -- Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 08:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.-- Yankees76 ( talk) 13:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Response: I did not attack anyone. I defended myself. Please stop editing records you have no knowledge in. And, a hearty welcome to Wikipedia to you also!
One does not need to be an expert on a subject in order to edit an article on Wikipedia. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson you're mistaken in your assumption that other editors who are editing what you feel is your area of expertise are not qualified to do so. Anyone may edit any article at anytime. That's what makes Wikipedia work. Right now some of your statements here are bordering on incivility, and wether you beleive they are or not, are indeed personal attacks. And while I may not be an expert in searching on the internet for bench press records or understand what federations drug test and what don't, I do have a very good grasp of how things work on Wikipedia - and this entire situation needs to be diffused ASAP. I would suggest that those involved take a step back from editing the article in question, stop the name calling, lose the attitude, rudeness, and the judgemental tone, give WP:CIVILITY a close read and then work towards a consensus. -- Quarte t 05:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Jeffrey, please make sure to sign your posts -- it is getting difficult to determine where you end and someone else begins. You do this with the 4 tildes '~~~~'. Also, it is typical to use a colon to indent your comments...so in this case, I'm the first commenter. If you reply to me, you'll add 1 colon to the beginning of your statement, if I reply to it, I'll add 2...it also makes it easier to follow. Thanks. Josh.Pritchard.DBA ( talk) 01:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Regards this revert, and the accompanying warning, here's my reasoning.
Note, in regards to some of your comments above, that qualifications are actually irrelevant on wikipedia, and claiming qualifications has led to major scandals including an editor being permanently blocked by Jimbo Wales. Anyone can claim qualifications, far more important is reliable sources and verification of claims. Anyone who claims expertise should easily be able to verify their claims with reliable sources, making diplomas completely irrelevant.
Please also review WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL - you can assume that I'm targeting you unfairly and that my contribution was based on bad faith, but I usually have a pretty good reason for my editing. And if I'm wrong, I'm usually willing to discuss, as most editors are on wikipedia. I'm also unsure where you would have reported me and for what. Being polite is usually a more productive path than threats and taking umbrage. You are correct that having a high edit count isn't automatically evidence of a good editor, but it's usually a middling indication that they're worth talking to. Several thousand edits usually means a good familiarity with the project and the community.
If you're interested, here is an essay that you might find useful as a general introduction to wikipedia. You've already mastered one step - signing your talk page posts, which is very handy for other editors and saves a lot of aggravation for future readers. Thanks, please let me know if you have any questions or further comments; I'm watching your talk page for the next little while in case, but you can also drop me a line on my talk page. WLU ( talk) 00:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Big James Henderson. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.-- Quarte t 13:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people.
OhNoitsJamie
Talk 14:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Whether your problem is mental, drugs or steroid rage, we don't want you here. Please go away and hatefully disrupt something else. 76.14.110.81 ( talk) 02:53, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I see you *have* been here a while. It was that "this hurts" part in the Bench Press article that made me warn you. WadeSimMiser ( talk) 22:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Rather than edit-war by reverting all the time, I strongly suggest you wait for consensus to develop on the article's talk page. The discussion is still new and this disruption is unhelpful. Thanks. -- Rodhull andemu 17:05, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I am not upset by having my addition to the article 'challenged.' I take offense to it being 'removed' by an admin. I take issue to the fact that you acting in the manner of an editor. There is no reason to remove the edit except for the fact that you are another one of those admins that harass editors, like ohnoitsjamie. I feel admins like you and ohnoitsjamie should take a break from being an admin. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 19:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
It is funny how the same two admins stalk me around and incite this kind of thread. Will there be an admin who stands up and shows me how to complain against this harassment? Is there no help for the downtrodden and abused on wikipedia? Help! Help! Help! Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 07:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at
talk:insanity, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. The comments on talk:insanity are grossly unnecessary and indicate that in the year you have been here, you have not learned that civility is a trait to be cultivated. The problem with the quote on insanity is not regards its
verifiability, it's regards what
wikipedia is not, in this case
not a directory, a section which explicitly includes quotations. I suggest in the future, if you are running into issues with the content you are trying to add, you ask the removing editor politely on their talk page what the issue is and what
policies and guidelines their edit is based on. Then review the policy/guideline, and then discuss based on that.
Wikipedia is not a battleground and if you continue to approach it as one, you will face escalating
blocks. With less than 200 edits you have a lot to learn. If you continue to approach talk pages as you do right now, you will not get a chance to learn anything.
WLU
(t)
(c) Wikipedia's rules:
simple/
complex 12:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know, I've never had any history with you; your name was certainly unfamiliar to me until I investigated your actions following the report on the Administrator's Noticeboard. As a completely uninvolved administrator, I echo both WLU's explanations, and his warning. TenOfAllTrades( talk) 16:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to help me become a better editor. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 21:21, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at
Talk:Insanity, you will be
blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. There you go, I have no history with you, so as you don't believe
User:WLU should be allowed to interact with you, please accept the same warning from a previously uninvolved editor
Mayalld (
talk) 16:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
[redacted] WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 18:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) For clarity, I am not an admin, and have never had any previous dealings with you. You should understand that issuing warnings is not something that is restricted to admins. Any editor can take another editor to task through the graduated warnings process if they breach policy. An admin only need become involved if you are repeatedly warned, but don't take heed. At that point, the admin would review your edits, and confirm that the warnings were appropriate before deciding on a course of action.
I do not feel that you have been victimised here. The simple fact is that Wikipedia has policies, and that you breached those policies, and that you continued to breach them after being warned not to. Many of the admins that you complain about might have entirely justifiably blocked you for your repeated breaches, but chose instead to try to persuade you to reform.
We are at a crossroads here. You can either heed the warnings, and determine to abide by policy, or you can decide to fight a perceived enemy. If you choose the latter, it is inevitable that you will be blocked. I urge you to accept that the admins were correct, and that you need to take on board what has been said to you. Mayalld ( talk) 21:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a comment, but when you say "I have had more problems from this Quartet person than anyone. If you had an edit that you knew was verifiable, but it kept being removed by a user that has made it clear he was interested in having you banned" you should be aware that a content dispute is not vandalism. For the record, before December 22 I've made 2 edits to the bench press article (1 to re-add a maintenance tag, the other reverting a spam link), and have removed "your" content only today (Dec. 30) My removal was not limited to the information you've added and I explained in the edit summary why the material I removed was removed. Please be clear on what Wikipedia considers vandalism and especially what is not vandalism before throwing this word around. This [5] is considered vandalism to the bench press article, the edits I've made are not. -- Quarte t 23:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
..I thought you should know that if you are resigned to make no further effort in improving your outlook I'm left with reporting the insulting and crass statements you've made to AN/I ( Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User_Jeffrey_Pierce_Henderson). I'm sorry we couldn't make more progress. Padillah ( talk) 14:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 48 hours as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our policies concerning neutral point of view and biographies of living persons will not be tolerated. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
The person who has blocked me is one of the same people I have been trying to get relief from through a mentoring process. I made no disruptive edits and those edits I did make were only to my mentoring page. This action has no basis in standard procedure, and I appeal the vindictive action. This action is usually used to handle disruptive edits to articles and there is no precedent that it should be used to squelch the cries for relief of new editors. I regret that my 'mentor' failed and quit, but I believe that the activity of the clique that harasses me to no end should be uncovered. I request that another Admin besides this one who has blocked me review the issue. I will accept the decision anyone else, but DO NOT accept this person as final. This person leads a small group of editors and admins and they have stalked my edits vehemently for months now. I have been trying to get assistance to get this 'cabal' to leave me alone to no avail. These four people include WLU, Ohnoitsjamie, Yankees76, and Quartet. These people have been on top of me for no reason except that I edited the Bench Press article to remove their 'champion' and put in the true champion. When WLU staed it was vandalism, I had to fight tooth and nail to get him to allow it. When Yankees76 fought that the reference was not verifiable, I won that argument with the assistance of the Guinness Book of World Records and the data provided by organizations recognized by the USOC. When I added a bio page for the lifter of note, Quartet tried to get it removed but he failed. Then when I tried to put a photo up on the site that I own the rights to Ohnoitsjamie ripped it down without any mercy. Keep in mind I am a new editors that has been trying to learn this process as I go. I have no delusions that my methods are blunt. I asked for assistance many times but every chance these four people always made a point to stop me from getting help to get away from them. Now Ohnoitsjamie gets to rule on my block? It just smacks of a Kangaroo Court. Please don't allow this to continue for other editors. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 10:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Per comments below and WP:NOTTHEM. — Daniel Case ( talk) 16:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
And OH NO! Look who showed up. Is it the MILLIONS of other editors or hundreds of other admins for Wikipedia ready to discuss the atrocity occurring here? No. Just the usual suspects. Methinks they doth protest too much. Ohnoitsjamie says I was warned numerous times about personal attacks but the only ‘evidence’ he links has no warning by him for personal attacks. He says I attacked the person 'kind enough to mentor me' but his link shows no comment by me. He says that ‘If I didn't block you, someone else would have.’ Stand back everyone. The omniscient Ohnoitsjamie is going to predict the future actions of all other Admins. Case and point. Ohnoitsjamie is not interested in the appearance of an impartial decision. He would rather save us all the time that justice takes and act as accuser, jury, and executioner. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 01:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I am having trouble finding where I was told "Don't type other editors names". Could someone help me find it please? Thank you. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 18:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
An issue regarding your conduct has been opened on the AN/I page. There is discussion regarding the length of your current block. I did not open this issue, I patrol AN/I and came accross it as opened by another editor. I've asked them to notify editors when AN/I issues are opened in the future. Padillah ( talk) 17:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Who is Komrade Kiev? Is he a machine or not? Is it possible to personally attack a machine? In order to be personally attacked, don't you by definition have to be a person? What exactly was the 'personal' attack? Case in point. Some Admins don't teach their interpretation of 'personal attack' and how to respond correctly. They are interested in telling you when they are going to block you. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 22:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I am showing nothing on his site. Should Admins be able to block access to their talk pages? It gives the impression that they are above reproach. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 23:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Oops misread that. Hrm, you're saying an Admin has their page protected? KillerChihuahua ?!? 01:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Before I answer your request, I have a few questions and comments:
Let me know. You can answer here, I will watch. KillerChihuahua ?!? 01:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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Howdy hello! You recently added a dispute at third opinion, but I'm not sure if I could find it. Third opinion is used for mediating disputes between 2 people. Could you point me to the issue you're having, and provide some diffs/evidence of discussion? If you're not in a dispute, third opinion is probably not the place for this question. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 05:00, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Howdy Capt. I edited the article Mt. Ararat to include information that is clearly in the Hebrew text. It was reverted with the words "No its not." Before I reverted it back, (and by doing so declare "yes it is") I wanted to help in how to do this. I don't want to get into religious arguments. Just the facts. Thank you for your help. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 19:35, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Captain Eek Thank you for your help. I have posted a message on the other editors page, and I will wait for the response. Jeffrey Pierce Henderson ( talk) 19:37, 10 December 2019 (UTC)