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I saw you knocking List of introduced species into shape, and thought to give you this. I know you've been around since 2014, but you deserve this, and apparently, I got here first. ^^ The blue morpho (here: Morpho menelaus, male) seems especially appropriate given it's clearly an urban species, having invaded our butterfly houses. ;) ;) Samsara 08:48, 29 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Hey bro I just started Wikipedia I don't know how to edit yet but there are Indian peacocks in Florida I seen one myself I live in Florida I think they should be listed as a introduced species. Unbroken22 ( talk) 20:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC) reply

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Koganezawa 1974

Re your edit in Japanese macaque -- my library has a copy of that book; do you want me to scan the article for you? Might take me a few days but can easily get it :). Umimmak ( talk) 06:37, 29 November 2022 (UTC) reply

I think that it might be a useful thing to do if it doesn't put you out. But it's not really for my benefit, it would be good to have every citation verifiable. Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 06:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC) reply

While I know these are all ASM-related changes, only making the change on this page isn't constructive, as now the individual species articles don't match what's listed on the higher article. It's better to make the change on the species article first, then reflect them in the higher-lever article. This includes any renamings, which may require a formal move request, since article names are not governed by ASM but by our internal policies, mostly WP:COMMONNAME. For now, I'm reverting the changes to this page. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:01, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply

I am left a little befuddled by your response. None of the changes to the list require any article renamings. There were some changes in the species naming, but largely it was a case of excluding or including articles in the list.
Now the list heading specifically states that it follows ASM, and it is not a list of species in articles, but this can be changed. However the list didn't match the articles in this sense to begin with and I haven't changed that.
Guidelines from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mammals#Guidelines state that "It is accepted practice to override the MSW3 taxonomy if both the Mammal Diversity Database and IUCN agree on the change.[1]". Is this going to be strictly enforced? Because at the moment things are a complete mess.
Could you also please clarify exactly in what way the articles must match the list. What changes need to be made to the species articles?
I am genuinely left befuddled. Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 12:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply
If a species is being removed from the listing, ensure the species article is updated to indicate it is no longer considered a species, and is now considered a population of some other species (and which). If the species sci name is all that's being changed, then ensure the species article has got that information corrected as well (the southeastern four-eyed opossum comes to mind as having a sci name changed in your edits, but the article itself wasn't changed. I mentioned article names because I could see from the diffs that you'd added & removed some species, but couldn't tell if they were purely additions and removals or if some were renames. I agree things are messy.... but let's not make them worse in the process of trying to make them better. It's a better practice to fix a species article, then update the higher-level article. Or fix a small handful of species articles, then the common higher-level article they relate to. What you are doing is the right thing. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply
It might not be considered a species by ASM, but it might be considered a species by someone else. There is no completely authoritative list of taxonomy, it's largely subjective.
Again it's not that the species sci name has changed, it's that ASM considers that it should be.
It seems, without you explicitly saying, is that you are not in favour of different species lists being listed by different authorities in Wikipedia. That you are in favour of just the one species list as determined by Wikipedia in some manner. Could this then be made an official policy? Or even better is it appropriate to then strictly enforce the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mammals#Guidelines policy for mammals? Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 12:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply
What I'm saying is that article A should not contradict article B, or that if we do have such a conflict we should have an explanation of that conflict on at least one of the articles. If we change the sci names of species on a species list, then the very least we should do is explain on the species article the discrepancy of sci names. Better to change the sci name on the species article. If you can't do either (explain or change) then take it up at the project's talk page so that it's not just you and me chewing the fat, eh? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Economy of Papua New Guinea

Re: Economy of Papua New Guinea. That edit summary I gave ( SD:NONE) was my typo that I had copy pasted from previous edits. It should have been WP:SDNONE. My mistake, sorry about that. Regardless, though, that short description should still be "None". Masterhatch ( talk) 15:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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@ Alalch E.: The motivation behind the creation of Australian Capital Territory borders was the links at States_and_territories_of_Australia#Borders. Is it possible for you to give a heads up about the notability of New South Wales borders before I start on that one? Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 14:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Links in that list could point to article sections. The existence of such red links doesn't indicate that a standalone article is necessarily the best idea. I'll answer the question about NSW borders when I do some research on the topic. But you could add more information about the NSW borders within the NSW article. Sincerely — Alalch E. 18:55, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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I saw you knocking List of introduced species into shape, and thought to give you this. I know you've been around since 2014, but you deserve this, and apparently, I got here first. ^^ The blue morpho (here: Morpho menelaus, male) seems especially appropriate given it's clearly an urban species, having invaded our butterfly houses. ;) ;) Samsara 08:48, 29 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Introduced species

Hey bro I just started Wikipedia I don't know how to edit yet but there are Indian peacocks in Florida I seen one myself I live in Florida I think they should be listed as a introduced species. Unbroken22 ( talk) 20:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC) reply

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Koganezawa 1974

Re your edit in Japanese macaque -- my library has a copy of that book; do you want me to scan the article for you? Might take me a few days but can easily get it :). Umimmak ( talk) 06:37, 29 November 2022 (UTC) reply

I think that it might be a useful thing to do if it doesn't put you out. But it's not really for my benefit, it would be good to have every citation verifiable. Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 06:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC) reply

While I know these are all ASM-related changes, only making the change on this page isn't constructive, as now the individual species articles don't match what's listed on the higher article. It's better to make the change on the species article first, then reflect them in the higher-lever article. This includes any renamings, which may require a formal move request, since article names are not governed by ASM but by our internal policies, mostly WP:COMMONNAME. For now, I'm reverting the changes to this page. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:01, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply

I am left a little befuddled by your response. None of the changes to the list require any article renamings. There were some changes in the species naming, but largely it was a case of excluding or including articles in the list.
Now the list heading specifically states that it follows ASM, and it is not a list of species in articles, but this can be changed. However the list didn't match the articles in this sense to begin with and I haven't changed that.
Guidelines from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mammals#Guidelines state that "It is accepted practice to override the MSW3 taxonomy if both the Mammal Diversity Database and IUCN agree on the change.[1]". Is this going to be strictly enforced? Because at the moment things are a complete mess.
Could you also please clarify exactly in what way the articles must match the list. What changes need to be made to the species articles?
I am genuinely left befuddled. Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 12:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply
If a species is being removed from the listing, ensure the species article is updated to indicate it is no longer considered a species, and is now considered a population of some other species (and which). If the species sci name is all that's being changed, then ensure the species article has got that information corrected as well (the southeastern four-eyed opossum comes to mind as having a sci name changed in your edits, but the article itself wasn't changed. I mentioned article names because I could see from the diffs that you'd added & removed some species, but couldn't tell if they were purely additions and removals or if some were renames. I agree things are messy.... but let's not make them worse in the process of trying to make them better. It's a better practice to fix a species article, then update the higher-level article. Or fix a small handful of species articles, then the common higher-level article they relate to. What you are doing is the right thing. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply
It might not be considered a species by ASM, but it might be considered a species by someone else. There is no completely authoritative list of taxonomy, it's largely subjective.
Again it's not that the species sci name has changed, it's that ASM considers that it should be.
It seems, without you explicitly saying, is that you are not in favour of different species lists being listed by different authorities in Wikipedia. That you are in favour of just the one species list as determined by Wikipedia in some manner. Could this then be made an official policy? Or even better is it appropriate to then strictly enforce the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mammals#Guidelines policy for mammals? Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 12:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply
What I'm saying is that article A should not contradict article B, or that if we do have such a conflict we should have an explanation of that conflict on at least one of the articles. If we change the sci names of species on a species list, then the very least we should do is explain on the species article the discrepancy of sci names. Better to change the sci name on the species article. If you can't do either (explain or change) then take it up at the project's talk page so that it's not just you and me chewing the fat, eh? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Economy of Papua New Guinea

Re: Economy of Papua New Guinea. That edit summary I gave ( SD:NONE) was my typo that I had copy pasted from previous edits. It should have been WP:SDNONE. My mistake, sorry about that. Regardless, though, that short description should still be "None". Masterhatch ( talk) 15:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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The topic is not notable independently of Australian Capital Territory, and even if the borders could be seen as independently notable, WP:PAGEDECIDE suggests that this content should not be a standalone article, as this is a subtopic of a subtopic of ACT and it would be better to cover it in context. That article already has some content about the borders.

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Alalch E. 14:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Alalch E.: The motivation behind the creation of Australian Capital Territory borders was the links at States_and_territories_of_Australia#Borders. Is it possible for you to give a heads up about the notability of New South Wales borders before I start on that one? Jameel the Saluki ( talk) 14:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Links in that list could point to article sections. The existence of such red links doesn't indicate that a standalone article is necessarily the best idea. I'll answer the question about NSW borders when I do some research on the topic. But you could add more information about the NSW borders within the NSW article. Sincerely — Alalch E. 18:55, 16 November 2023 (UTC) reply

Queensland's climate

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