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I replied briefly to your support of the Lua Convert, but I need to say more about the months of struggling to get the Lua version to have equivalent features, rather than jump into Lua then cut and run when people want more options in conversions. As could be expected, when rewriting a massive system of 450(?) conversion units, who really wants to rewrite all those, plus add more options each week when someone asks to support an ancient Spanish acre unit ( cuerda), convert time-of-day, or stop the wrapping before unit symbols? This year has been a constant struggle to add more functionality, while the Lua version struggled to match last year's options, reluctant to add user requests. Instead, this is the future of Convert:
As typical, every few months someone complains, loudly, about the peculiar precision problems in Convert, which are not yet fixed by Lua, as in:
So people have complained how the result as "20–20 kg" is nonsense for 2 different numbers of a range in an encyclopedia, and that should be corrected automatically in a better Convert. All year, people have requested new features, not re-inventing last year's wheel, and the Lua Convert has derailed progress but now poses to block improvements as an arcane, complex obstacle which few people could update. Read Module:Convert (3,334 lines) for 1 hour, and think about the questions people will face to expand the options. Instead, let's continue to add new options, and fix precisions, until a point where no one asks for new features during 2 months, then switch to Lua. - Wikid77 ( talk) 00:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
N2e ( talk) 01:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't care for your condescending attitude in my talk page. Piss off. BatteryIncluded ( talk) 17:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 16:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Huntster. I found this image of the launch of F9 Flt 7 on Flickr, but no matter where I click, I can't figure out how to see what sort of license the photographer has put on it. So I don't know if it is like the Steve Jurvetson's Flickr photos, or if it has a restrictive copyright. I also could not see how to contact the photographer to ask.
I wonder if you can quickly tell the license somehow? Or perhaps take a look at the SpaceX group on Flickr and see if someone else has not perhaps taken some good shots of f9 Flt 7 (carrying SES-8) that we might use to improve that article. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 13:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
N2e, check out the contents of Commons:Category:Falcon 9 Flight 7 and choose the pics you think will work best. I've removed the watermarks from all of them. I just wish they were crisper, but free is free, c'est la vie. — Huntster ( t @ c) 02:34, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
whooo ... deep breath. OK ... I said merry xmas to to a few folks. OK .. so now ... Thank you. Thank you for always being a friend. Thank you for always givin a shit. You're an amazing dude ,, and I am so very greatful for your friendship. Thanks Hunster - I hope you and your family have a wonderful holiday season and a great Christmas.
ched
Season's greetings from Santa and her little helpers
Thanks for the Thanks, but are some animals more equal than others? Elvey ( talk) 19:28, 2 January 2014 (UTC) |
Hey Hunster. I've got a question about a couple of changes you recently made in the use of the {{ convert}} template on SpaceX reusable launch system development program. I definitely don't understand all of the myriad parms etc. of {{ convert}} so could be missing something here, but I am unclear on two things:
|sp=us
gets meters, kilometers, liters, etc. rather than metres, kilometres, litres, etc. I noticed you removed that; not sure why.Cheers. N2e ( talk) 14:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
|disp=
parameters in a single instance of Convert, I chose to use the slash to improve readability. An alternate solution would be to dispense with Convert altogether, as was done with the Mach issue. I wouldn't oppose this at all, if you felt it the better option. I love Convert, but it simply cannot work in all circumstances.|sp=us
because I changed those instances to abbreviated unit names (to match the other conversions in that section), which means any spelling differences are not shown and thus |sp=
becomes redundant. If they remained spelled out, using |sp=
would certainly be appropriate.That's fine on the scrolling refs. I simply had not seen that previously, until I recently did see it used in a major high-traffic article and thought it a novel way to get the refs of a well-sourced article to not take up so much article real estate. So I used the same approach on a couple of articles that had a large number of citations.
In my view, the problem with the refs taking an overly prominent place in the visible article space—rather than being less visible by default and only becoming more visible when a reader either mouse-overs the citation number, or clicks on a citation to read it, or explicitly goes into ref-land to show the refs—is a problem that needs to be fixed in the English Wikipedia. Having said that, I'm quite patient about how editors more skilled than I in the coding and wikisyntax arts will eventually solve that problem. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 12:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Cool, I'll post some thoughts on the talk page. :) Goldenshimmer ( talk) 02:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I nominated the SpaceX reusable launch system development program article for WP:GA today. For some reason I've not been able to figure out, that nomination has broken the TOC on the talk page. There was a table of contents on it before my edits, and now there is not. Do you think you might have a look and see what you can find? Talk:SpaceX reusable launch system development program — N2e ( talk) 17:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
The File:SpaceX private launch site map.png seems, to my sensibilities, to be named incorrectly. It is not the map of the "SpaceX private launch site", it is a map of one proposed location and layout of a proposed launch site, at an early date in the notional concept. Wonder if "SpaceX proposed private launch site--TexasSite2013" or some such might be more honest of reality. There are a hundred other ways to name it that would avoid the misrepresentation; I'm not hung on any one.
But my big question is, how does one go about doing this? I don't see a "Move" button, and the file doesn't appear to be on Wikimedia where it should be. So should I just start a Talk page discussion on the File Talk page? Or what? N2e ( talk) 15:56, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 20 | ← | Archive 25 | Archive 26 | Archive 27 | Archive 28 | Archive 29 | Archive 30 |
I replied briefly to your support of the Lua Convert, but I need to say more about the months of struggling to get the Lua version to have equivalent features, rather than jump into Lua then cut and run when people want more options in conversions. As could be expected, when rewriting a massive system of 450(?) conversion units, who really wants to rewrite all those, plus add more options each week when someone asks to support an ancient Spanish acre unit ( cuerda), convert time-of-day, or stop the wrapping before unit symbols? This year has been a constant struggle to add more functionality, while the Lua version struggled to match last year's options, reluctant to add user requests. Instead, this is the future of Convert:
As typical, every few months someone complains, loudly, about the peculiar precision problems in Convert, which are not yet fixed by Lua, as in:
So people have complained how the result as "20–20 kg" is nonsense for 2 different numbers of a range in an encyclopedia, and that should be corrected automatically in a better Convert. All year, people have requested new features, not re-inventing last year's wheel, and the Lua Convert has derailed progress but now poses to block improvements as an arcane, complex obstacle which few people could update. Read Module:Convert (3,334 lines) for 1 hour, and think about the questions people will face to expand the options. Instead, let's continue to add new options, and fix precisions, until a point where no one asks for new features during 2 months, then switch to Lua. - Wikid77 ( talk) 00:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
N2e ( talk) 01:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't care for your condescending attitude in my talk page. Piss off. BatteryIncluded ( talk) 17:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 16:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Huntster. I found this image of the launch of F9 Flt 7 on Flickr, but no matter where I click, I can't figure out how to see what sort of license the photographer has put on it. So I don't know if it is like the Steve Jurvetson's Flickr photos, or if it has a restrictive copyright. I also could not see how to contact the photographer to ask.
I wonder if you can quickly tell the license somehow? Or perhaps take a look at the SpaceX group on Flickr and see if someone else has not perhaps taken some good shots of f9 Flt 7 (carrying SES-8) that we might use to improve that article. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 13:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
N2e, check out the contents of Commons:Category:Falcon 9 Flight 7 and choose the pics you think will work best. I've removed the watermarks from all of them. I just wish they were crisper, but free is free, c'est la vie. — Huntster ( t @ c) 02:34, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
whooo ... deep breath. OK ... I said merry xmas to to a few folks. OK .. so now ... Thank you. Thank you for always being a friend. Thank you for always givin a shit. You're an amazing dude ,, and I am so very greatful for your friendship. Thanks Hunster - I hope you and your family have a wonderful holiday season and a great Christmas.
ched
Season's greetings from Santa and her little helpers
Thanks for the Thanks, but are some animals more equal than others? Elvey ( talk) 19:28, 2 January 2014 (UTC) |
Hey Hunster. I've got a question about a couple of changes you recently made in the use of the {{ convert}} template on SpaceX reusable launch system development program. I definitely don't understand all of the myriad parms etc. of {{ convert}} so could be missing something here, but I am unclear on two things:
|sp=us
gets meters, kilometers, liters, etc. rather than metres, kilometres, litres, etc. I noticed you removed that; not sure why.Cheers. N2e ( talk) 14:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
|disp=
parameters in a single instance of Convert, I chose to use the slash to improve readability. An alternate solution would be to dispense with Convert altogether, as was done with the Mach issue. I wouldn't oppose this at all, if you felt it the better option. I love Convert, but it simply cannot work in all circumstances.|sp=us
because I changed those instances to abbreviated unit names (to match the other conversions in that section), which means any spelling differences are not shown and thus |sp=
becomes redundant. If they remained spelled out, using |sp=
would certainly be appropriate.That's fine on the scrolling refs. I simply had not seen that previously, until I recently did see it used in a major high-traffic article and thought it a novel way to get the refs of a well-sourced article to not take up so much article real estate. So I used the same approach on a couple of articles that had a large number of citations.
In my view, the problem with the refs taking an overly prominent place in the visible article space—rather than being less visible by default and only becoming more visible when a reader either mouse-overs the citation number, or clicks on a citation to read it, or explicitly goes into ref-land to show the refs—is a problem that needs to be fixed in the English Wikipedia. Having said that, I'm quite patient about how editors more skilled than I in the coding and wikisyntax arts will eventually solve that problem. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 12:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Cool, I'll post some thoughts on the talk page. :) Goldenshimmer ( talk) 02:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I nominated the SpaceX reusable launch system development program article for WP:GA today. For some reason I've not been able to figure out, that nomination has broken the TOC on the talk page. There was a table of contents on it before my edits, and now there is not. Do you think you might have a look and see what you can find? Talk:SpaceX reusable launch system development program — N2e ( talk) 17:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
The File:SpaceX private launch site map.png seems, to my sensibilities, to be named incorrectly. It is not the map of the "SpaceX private launch site", it is a map of one proposed location and layout of a proposed launch site, at an early date in the notional concept. Wonder if "SpaceX proposed private launch site--TexasSite2013" or some such might be more honest of reality. There are a hundred other ways to name it that would avoid the misrepresentation; I'm not hung on any one.
But my big question is, how does one go about doing this? I don't see a "Move" button, and the file doesn't appear to be on Wikimedia where it should be. So should I just start a Talk page discussion on the File Talk page? Or what? N2e ( talk) 15:56, 21 February 2014 (UTC)