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Xiaolin Showdown

I don't know if you've read the talk on the episode page or the guidelines of the List of Episodes project, but I feel the new format is an improvement. Known Shen Gong Wu already tracks each Shen Gong Wu, and the episode pages will all mark the exchanges when I'm done with them. Using the list of episodes as a Shen Gong Wu tracker instead of an episode guide is not helpful to people who are not fans of the show already, and I would like to remind you that this is an encyclopedia not a fan site. But please voice your opinion at Talk:List of Xiaolin Showdown episodes so we can build to more of a consensus. Jay32183 17:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC) reply

If we find it necessary we can remove the pictures, there is actually a template for that already built. There is a posting on the List of Episodes project so people who are unfamiliar with the show may start chiming in and helping out. Ryulong and I are doing are best at getting the episode summaries, if you want to help then do so and if not just give us some polite reminders on ones that are missing and we'll get to them as soon as we can. I do watch edits on the page so I should be able to get to them while I'm not at work. Jay32183 18:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC) reply

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P.S.: My reference point.

As above per Nihiltres. Template: Lowercase is clearer. Why did you change it? Tom H 20:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC) reply


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I'm not super attached to absolutely having the date for the Chicago Times article, even though Cornell University says it was the next day on another link. Since you didn't respect BRD and reverted my first reversion, and then I failed to call you on it and we both continued, now we're both at risk of getting blocked for 3RR violations, so I'll let it stay as is. It's okay that way anyway. -- Brangifer ( talk) 00:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC) reply

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I don't what was the purpose of that canned, generic response, but it was an eminent waste of time on my part for me to read it and I would imagine for you to post it. Indeed, you're hardly in a position to send me Wikipedia guidelines considering that you technically broke the three-revert rule in that last edit.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 08:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

It is a pity if it fell on deaf ears, for WP:AGF is a key Wikipedia policy. More importantly, your accusation that I "technically broke the three-revert rule" is false: 1st revert, 2nd revert, 3rd revert. My next (and so far latest) edit there was this one, which merely fixed grammar. Toccata quarta ( talk) 08:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
If you're going to make a suggestion about my behavior, don't use some cookie-cutter response that has no argumentative weight; a sanctimonious attitude won't make it for your arguments for you and it's not consistent with making sarcastic comments as edit summaries. About that "false" assertion, I was the one who made that mistake. Unless you can find an exception to the three-revert rule that includes grammatical corrections, you broke it. Q.E.D.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 08:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
Following your reasoning, the folks at WP:GOCE have violated WP:3RR many times without getting blocked. Toccata quarta ( talk) 08:55, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
It only applies if an edit war is occurring, which would be rare for editors who merely correct grammar. In this case, all the conditions for a three-revert violation were fulfilled by that last edit.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 09:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
No; reverting is the definition of edit war. Following your definition of revert—removing or rewriting anything— WP:3RR has been broken by about 90% of Wikipedia's most active editors. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
And you "perform[ed] more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period." Unless you can cite another standard, you broke the three-revert rule. I'm not going to contest or allow your statistic; it's irrelevant. WP:EW applies to every editor.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 09:13, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
Part of the problem with your reasoning is that you assume that Wikipedia policies are written by infallible beings. They are not. They are the work of humans, which is why we also have WP:IAR. (Did I improve Wikipedia by fixing grammar there? I believe I did.) Let's quote WP:3RR: "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert." If anyone took that literally, this would have resulted in a block: [1], [2], [3], [4]. But the user who did those edits won't get blocked because of those edits, and I'm sure you know that. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
Your argument directly contradicts the text of WP:EW: "While any edit warring may lead to sanctions, there is a bright-line rule called the three-revert rule (3RR)..." But even then, your argument becomes even more inconsequential, and it is clear that you are merely toppling a straw man. The rest of that sentence I quoted reads, "the violation of which often leads to a block." I didn't say your action would lead to a block. I merely said that you "technically broke the three-revert rule." (Note that in order to maintain that what I said was false, this is the statement that has to be disproved.) The reference of WP:IAR compounds irrelevancy upon irrelevancy. Just because you can ignore rules under certain situations doesn't mean you are unable to simultaneously break them.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 09:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
I don't know what you are trying to achieve here. You don't appear to mind my edits as much as my alleged sarcasm. Are you expecting an apology? When I said that "similar" is a common word, I was just pointing out why some of the article's information was added by me. I'm not interested in insulting anyone, and I can't recall insulting or mocking even vandalism-only accounts and sock puppets. I have no interest in offending you—that's just not my character. The content dispute is over, and I'd rather continue my work on improving Wikipedia. Toccata quarta ( talk) 10:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
I don't know what you are trying to achieve here. I don't have to explain my true motives or make them obvious by my actions. Regardless of your speculations, I still found it immensely pointless, (for several reasons I did not mention), for you to have posted on my wall that mechanical response that's more appropriate for a bot. It was you who decided to contest my claim that you violated the three-revert rule. Your sanctimonious facade might have been more convincing if you used it as soon as I accused you of the violation. My behavior regarding these posts has been perfectly straightforward. You posted a canned response about a rule, (with the implication that I somehow might benefit from reading it); I implied that this is hypocritical because you violated a rule; we then both contested the claim that you did violate said rule. I haven't made it entirely clear why your original post to my wall was absurd, but it's perfectly reasonable for my to defend my claim that you violated a rule once you contradicted me. Assuming that you've made that concession, (or dismissed it as immaterial in contrast to your previous fervor in defending it), no posts of mine should now inconvenience your "work".-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 10:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

For the record, I have deleted our conversation from my talk page. I was willing to keep talking to you, but not anymore, since you referred to my contributions to Wikipedia as "work" (using quotation marks). Considering I have taken a few articles to GA level and some editors have told me that they appreciate my work, I'd say your comment is not based on an examination of my 10,000+ edits (and I doubt you've looked at even 2% of them). Toccata quarta ( talk) 13:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

I hope I can say without further offense that I find your response on my page incredibly bizarre. Of all the reasons that you could have suggested as one that would justify ending the dialogue, you chose the fact that I used your own term and put it in quotes? You said, The content dispute is over, and I'd rather continue my work on improving Wikipedia. I honestly thought that this was an unusual term to describe what most would consider to be a hobby. The fact that I put it in quotes can be interpreted in numerous ways, (see the section on quotation marks) and anyone may very easily question your sensibilities in your being perturbed by the mere placement of quotation marks. Apparently, you derived an entire statement to the effect of disparaging your sum total contributions to this website from my selective punctuation. You aren't saying why this caused such annoyance, but I imagine you made several assumptions about my intent. I must ask now who's violating WP:AGF?-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 14:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

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Xiaolin Showdown

I don't know if you've read the talk on the episode page or the guidelines of the List of Episodes project, but I feel the new format is an improvement. Known Shen Gong Wu already tracks each Shen Gong Wu, and the episode pages will all mark the exchanges when I'm done with them. Using the list of episodes as a Shen Gong Wu tracker instead of an episode guide is not helpful to people who are not fans of the show already, and I would like to remind you that this is an encyclopedia not a fan site. But please voice your opinion at Talk:List of Xiaolin Showdown episodes so we can build to more of a consensus. Jay32183 17:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC) reply

If we find it necessary we can remove the pictures, there is actually a template for that already built. There is a posting on the List of Episodes project so people who are unfamiliar with the show may start chiming in and helping out. Ryulong and I are doing are best at getting the episode summaries, if you want to help then do so and if not just give us some polite reminders on ones that are missing and we'll get to them as soon as we can. I do watch edits on the page so I should be able to get to them while I'm not at work. Jay32183 18:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC) reply

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P.S.: My reference point.

As above per Nihiltres. Template: Lowercase is clearer. Why did you change it? Tom H 20:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC) reply


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Gettysburg Address

I'm not super attached to absolutely having the date for the Chicago Times article, even though Cornell University says it was the next day on another link. Since you didn't respect BRD and reverted my first reversion, and then I failed to call you on it and we both continued, now we're both at risk of getting blocked for 3RR violations, so I'll let it stay as is. It's okay that way anyway. -- Brangifer ( talk) 00:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC) reply

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I don't what was the purpose of that canned, generic response, but it was an eminent waste of time on my part for me to read it and I would imagine for you to post it. Indeed, you're hardly in a position to send me Wikipedia guidelines considering that you technically broke the three-revert rule in that last edit.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 08:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

It is a pity if it fell on deaf ears, for WP:AGF is a key Wikipedia policy. More importantly, your accusation that I "technically broke the three-revert rule" is false: 1st revert, 2nd revert, 3rd revert. My next (and so far latest) edit there was this one, which merely fixed grammar. Toccata quarta ( talk) 08:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
If you're going to make a suggestion about my behavior, don't use some cookie-cutter response that has no argumentative weight; a sanctimonious attitude won't make it for your arguments for you and it's not consistent with making sarcastic comments as edit summaries. About that "false" assertion, I was the one who made that mistake. Unless you can find an exception to the three-revert rule that includes grammatical corrections, you broke it. Q.E.D.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 08:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
Following your reasoning, the folks at WP:GOCE have violated WP:3RR many times without getting blocked. Toccata quarta ( talk) 08:55, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
It only applies if an edit war is occurring, which would be rare for editors who merely correct grammar. In this case, all the conditions for a three-revert violation were fulfilled by that last edit.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 09:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
No; reverting is the definition of edit war. Following your definition of revert—removing or rewriting anything— WP:3RR has been broken by about 90% of Wikipedia's most active editors. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
And you "perform[ed] more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period." Unless you can cite another standard, you broke the three-revert rule. I'm not going to contest or allow your statistic; it's irrelevant. WP:EW applies to every editor.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 09:13, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
Part of the problem with your reasoning is that you assume that Wikipedia policies are written by infallible beings. They are not. They are the work of humans, which is why we also have WP:IAR. (Did I improve Wikipedia by fixing grammar there? I believe I did.) Let's quote WP:3RR: "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert." If anyone took that literally, this would have resulted in a block: [1], [2], [3], [4]. But the user who did those edits won't get blocked because of those edits, and I'm sure you know that. Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
Your argument directly contradicts the text of WP:EW: "While any edit warring may lead to sanctions, there is a bright-line rule called the three-revert rule (3RR)..." But even then, your argument becomes even more inconsequential, and it is clear that you are merely toppling a straw man. The rest of that sentence I quoted reads, "the violation of which often leads to a block." I didn't say your action would lead to a block. I merely said that you "technically broke the three-revert rule." (Note that in order to maintain that what I said was false, this is the statement that has to be disproved.) The reference of WP:IAR compounds irrelevancy upon irrelevancy. Just because you can ignore rules under certain situations doesn't mean you are unable to simultaneously break them.-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 09:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
I don't know what you are trying to achieve here. You don't appear to mind my edits as much as my alleged sarcasm. Are you expecting an apology? When I said that "similar" is a common word, I was just pointing out why some of the article's information was added by me. I'm not interested in insulting anyone, and I can't recall insulting or mocking even vandalism-only accounts and sock puppets. I have no interest in offending you—that's just not my character. The content dispute is over, and I'd rather continue my work on improving Wikipedia. Toccata quarta ( talk) 10:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply
I don't know what you are trying to achieve here. I don't have to explain my true motives or make them obvious by my actions. Regardless of your speculations, I still found it immensely pointless, (for several reasons I did not mention), for you to have posted on my wall that mechanical response that's more appropriate for a bot. It was you who decided to contest my claim that you violated the three-revert rule. Your sanctimonious facade might have been more convincing if you used it as soon as I accused you of the violation. My behavior regarding these posts has been perfectly straightforward. You posted a canned response about a rule, (with the implication that I somehow might benefit from reading it); I implied that this is hypocritical because you violated a rule; we then both contested the claim that you did violate said rule. I haven't made it entirely clear why your original post to my wall was absurd, but it's perfectly reasonable for my to defend my claim that you violated a rule once you contradicted me. Assuming that you've made that concession, (or dismissed it as immaterial in contrast to your previous fervor in defending it), no posts of mine should now inconvenience your "work".-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 10:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

For the record, I have deleted our conversation from my talk page. I was willing to keep talking to you, but not anymore, since you referred to my contributions to Wikipedia as "work" (using quotation marks). Considering I have taken a few articles to GA level and some editors have told me that they appreciate my work, I'd say your comment is not based on an examination of my 10,000+ edits (and I doubt you've looked at even 2% of them). Toccata quarta ( talk) 13:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

I hope I can say without further offense that I find your response on my page incredibly bizarre. Of all the reasons that you could have suggested as one that would justify ending the dialogue, you chose the fact that I used your own term and put it in quotes? You said, The content dispute is over, and I'd rather continue my work on improving Wikipedia. I honestly thought that this was an unusual term to describe what most would consider to be a hobby. The fact that I put it in quotes can be interpreted in numerous ways, (see the section on quotation marks) and anyone may very easily question your sensibilities in your being perturbed by the mere placement of quotation marks. Apparently, you derived an entire statement to the effect of disparaging your sum total contributions to this website from my selective punctuation. You aren't saying why this caused such annoyance, but I imagine you made several assumptions about my intent. I must ask now who's violating WP:AGF?-- Herb-Sewell ( talk) 14:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Edit War: Concerto for Solo Piano

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Caught by a colocation web host block but this host or IP is not a web host. My IP address is 149.34.250.35. Place any further information here. Herb-Sewell ( talk) 21:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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This IP address belongs to Surfshark. Please disable your VPN and wait a full 24 hours for the block to clear. Yamla ( talk) 21:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC) reply


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I wanted to make some changes to Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots#Plot: Old Snake doesn't visit Big Boss's grave. He visits The Boss's grave. Herb-Sewell ( talk) 21:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC) reply


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