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Just wanted you to know that I have been thinking about the AFD process.
I think there is a tendency for participants to list links; without actually reading the articles for content.
The rules and guidelines may be talked about, cited correctly, mostly they are incorrectly cited or applied, or used to press a point. In response to what I have encountered; I have given quite a bit of thought and study to "the rules" and have outlined some perceptions here;
/info/en/?search=User_talk:Flibbertigibbets
My perceptions might be quite foreign to what other people expect; but they are grounded in existing guidelines and core principals. I would be interested in your thoughts and impressions. Flibbertigibbets ( talk) 05:28, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3 Damansara Shopping Mall (2nd nomination). Thank you.. I'm notifying you as an editor has raised the possibility with a self admitted no evidence of an undisclosed COI but did not notify you. Nil Einne ( talk) 02:53, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
I noticed that you removed a citation from the Grawlix article with the edit summary of "the dictonary isint a reliable source". Do you mean that the Merriam-Webster dictionary is not a reliable source? I could not find any relevant discussions so it would helpful if you provided a link/explanation. Roost T C( ping me!) 01:48, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
A dictionary is a primary source. It is completely reliable. Primary/secondary and reliable/unreliable are seperate concepts. 66.232.69.166 ( talk) 07:20, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
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hi, per WP:SIGAPP, you may not enlarge your signature to 16px. could you fix that? lettherebedarklight 晚安 05:39, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
Virtually all articles on schools below 9th grade (US & Canada) are not notable. When attempting to question their notability via deletion process, it would be appreciated by all involved if you would first attempt deletion via the less impactful WP:PROD first. The most common historic results (see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES) is that the article will redirected to its governing authority (School district or school board). Once you go to AFD, the article can't be redirected unless and until the discussion has run and been closed; forcing the involvement of multiple editors and 10 days. On the other hand, if you PROD it, any experienced editor can then redirect it and it's done. Much simpler for everyone. With a bit more experience, you can boldly redirect it yourself, but I know at your experience level, I was still wanting a double-check on my thought process. It's just a thought...happy New Year and happy editing. I edit from many IPs, but I'm happy to help if you can find me. 66.232.69.166 ( talk) 07:39, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Tagging articles on minor topics for WikiProject United States will be quite contentious, especially when there is already a separate state project tag in place. It is probably best to tag articles for the state projects and leave the national one off most article talk pages. Imzadi 1979 → 07:42, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello, HelpingWorld,
I think you went a little over-the-top tagging problems with this article. There were 5 or 6 tags and the whole article was only about 3 sentences. Maybe limit yourself to the top 2 or 3 problems with an article so you don't overwhelm all of the other content on the page. You don't get a bonus for the number of tags you place on an undeveloped article so try to focus on the most urgent problems and not every issue an article has. I think it also would be demoralizing to the article creator to see their new article weighed down with half a dozen tags. Try to remember the article creator and think of your role as trying to help them by pointing out the most pressing issues, not cataloging every problem with an article. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 08:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hello HelpingWorld. You made a non-admin closure of this AfD as "merge". I kindly ask you to reconsider the closure, because I do not believe it follows the
WP:NACD guideline, which states Close calls and controversial decisions are better left to admins
. As the discussion shows, there was controversy as to the appropriate outcome of the AfD in this case. Some editors made policy-based arguments for keeping the article, others made policy-based arguments for merging it, and one editor !voted to delete. It was therefore a close call and should have been handled by an administrator. Please let me know if, after reconsidering, you agree, and if so revert the redirect and relist the deletion discussion. Thank you.
Jfire (
talk) 22:43, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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Just wanted you to know that I have been thinking about the AFD process.
I think there is a tendency for participants to list links; without actually reading the articles for content.
The rules and guidelines may be talked about, cited correctly, mostly they are incorrectly cited or applied, or used to press a point. In response to what I have encountered; I have given quite a bit of thought and study to "the rules" and have outlined some perceptions here;
/info/en/?search=User_talk:Flibbertigibbets
My perceptions might be quite foreign to what other people expect; but they are grounded in existing guidelines and core principals. I would be interested in your thoughts and impressions. Flibbertigibbets ( talk) 05:28, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3 Damansara Shopping Mall (2nd nomination). Thank you.. I'm notifying you as an editor has raised the possibility with a self admitted no evidence of an undisclosed COI but did not notify you. Nil Einne ( talk) 02:53, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
I noticed that you removed a citation from the Grawlix article with the edit summary of "the dictonary isint a reliable source". Do you mean that the Merriam-Webster dictionary is not a reliable source? I could not find any relevant discussions so it would helpful if you provided a link/explanation. Roost T C( ping me!) 01:48, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
A dictionary is a primary source. It is completely reliable. Primary/secondary and reliable/unreliable are seperate concepts. 66.232.69.166 ( talk) 07:20, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
We are currently running a study to evaluate the effectiveness of alternative algorithms for providing personalized task recommendations through SuggestBot. Participation in the study is voluntary. Should you wish to not participate in the study, or have questions or concerns, you can find contact information in the consent information sheet. The study is scheduled to end on Monday, January 9, 2023. Please note this is a bit later than the initial estimate specified in the consent information sheet.
Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation and please get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.
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If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. -- SuggestBot ( talk) 04:18, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for
your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from
simple:Lisa Montgomery into another page. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere,
Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an
edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and
linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution
. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{
copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please provide attribution for this duplication if it has not already been supplied by another editor, and if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, you should provide attribution for that also. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at
Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you.
NebY (
talk) 12:29, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
hi, per WP:SIGAPP, you may not enlarge your signature to 16px. could you fix that? lettherebedarklight 晚安 05:39, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
Virtually all articles on schools below 9th grade (US & Canada) are not notable. When attempting to question their notability via deletion process, it would be appreciated by all involved if you would first attempt deletion via the less impactful WP:PROD first. The most common historic results (see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES) is that the article will redirected to its governing authority (School district or school board). Once you go to AFD, the article can't be redirected unless and until the discussion has run and been closed; forcing the involvement of multiple editors and 10 days. On the other hand, if you PROD it, any experienced editor can then redirect it and it's done. Much simpler for everyone. With a bit more experience, you can boldly redirect it yourself, but I know at your experience level, I was still wanting a double-check on my thought process. It's just a thought...happy New Year and happy editing. I edit from many IPs, but I'm happy to help if you can find me. 66.232.69.166 ( talk) 07:39, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Tagging articles on minor topics for WikiProject United States will be quite contentious, especially when there is already a separate state project tag in place. It is probably best to tag articles for the state projects and leave the national one off most article talk pages. Imzadi 1979 → 07:42, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello, HelpingWorld,
I think you went a little over-the-top tagging problems with this article. There were 5 or 6 tags and the whole article was only about 3 sentences. Maybe limit yourself to the top 2 or 3 problems with an article so you don't overwhelm all of the other content on the page. You don't get a bonus for the number of tags you place on an undeveloped article so try to focus on the most urgent problems and not every issue an article has. I think it also would be demoralizing to the article creator to see their new article weighed down with half a dozen tags. Try to remember the article creator and think of your role as trying to help them by pointing out the most pressing issues, not cataloging every problem with an article. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 08:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello, HelpingWorld!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the
Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the
Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! —
Ingenuity (
talk •
contribs) 18:41, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
|
Hello HelpingWorld. You made a non-admin closure of this AfD as "merge". I kindly ask you to reconsider the closure, because I do not believe it follows the
WP:NACD guideline, which states Close calls and controversial decisions are better left to admins
. As the discussion shows, there was controversy as to the appropriate outcome of the AfD in this case. Some editors made policy-based arguments for keeping the article, others made policy-based arguments for merging it, and one editor !voted to delete. It was therefore a close call and should have been handled by an administrator. Please let me know if, after reconsidering, you agree, and if so revert the redirect and relist the deletion discussion. Thank you.
Jfire (
talk) 22:43, 22 January 2023 (UTC)