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The first book at hand I consulted, Thracians by Alexander Fol and Valeria Fol, ISBN: 978-9549717181 has fifty-odd persons mentioned, not just kings and other nobles but also priests, poets, singers, artists etc. that could possibly need such a bio stub. In any case, if this template were deleted I trust there would be no objection to inserting in the relevant present articles a footnote to the same effect with no template used? I have no problems with having the template renamed 'Ancient-Thrace-stub'. Apcbg 08:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi there Grutness,
How come {{ Mauritius-geo-stub}} should be included in Southern Africa grouping? It is not listed anywhere on Category:Southern Africa geography stubs and is only "reckoned" to be included in Southern Africa.-- Thomas.macmillan 01:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness
After the fuzz about Western Sahara, I took a peek at the similar templates and realized that the Somaliland one used a flag of a secessionist administration. I've removed the flag, and if the creator of the template objects, I'll take the matter up on WP:WSS. Just wanted to keep you posted. Regards. Valentinian T / C 19:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
There are many articles about schools in Malaysia which are stubs. Not much proper information are provided in these articles. So I figure a new stub category would be really helpful to improve these articles. Horacenew 10:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I think you jumped the gun there a bit by speedy deleting it. I'd managed to have a confab with Bohater on his talk page about it, and when I had last checked he was applying the stub in a reasonable fashion rather than on everything remotely related to Kurdishness. Assuming that it can be applied in a responsible fashion, I see no reason why Kurdish-stub should be speedy deleted when we have other ethnic stubs such as {{ Roma-stub}} and {{ Jewish-hist-stub}}. Caerwine Caer’s whines 03:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness. Would you mind taking a look at the related thred on my talk page? It is just a thought, but it would make a bit more sense permcat-wise. Valentinian T / C 15:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused as to what's happened here: it looks like you intended to "speedy and salt", but AFAICS you neither deleted nor protected it. Since then there's been a minor db/hangon skirmish there, and a somewhat confused talk page conversation. Can you clarify what you did/intended to do? Does this still need "ordinary" closure? Alai 14:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I am also very confused... or at least, I was until I checked the edit history. Seems that when I deleted and salted what I actually ended up doing was unprotecting a page that had already been protected. So the {{ deletedpage}} didn't stay in place. Grutness... wha? 00:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Leave it for someone else, I think. If I re-speedied it might look like I had a bit of a vendetta against it. Also conversation on the topic moved on considerably after the first speedying. It's all a bit of a mess, really, which I didn't exactly help to clean up much :/ Grutness... wha? 02:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. The stub type, which was not proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Wikipedia:Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness... wha? 02:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay - yes, it is a boilerplate template, that is true, and that is the reason why little specific information was included. Firstly, the two templates (this and {[tlprovstub}} were never proposed as stub types - if they had been, then you'd have got plenty of information from a large number of people. In the case of provstub, it may not even be a stub types, by the looks of it, in which case it at the very least needs renaming to something which doesn't end in stub (SFD covers renaming as well as deletion). In the case of {{ Country flagstub}}, it too is misnamed by stub naming guidelines, but more importantly it is a metatemplate of a type which has been rejected frequently in the past at WP:WSS as being too difficult to maintain, causing far more work than it is intended to save. Also, there may be concerns as far as server load is concerned, since if implemented it would be incredibly high use (see Wikipedia:Transclusion costs and benefits for some of the reasons, and consider too that provstub requires double transclusion since it has nested templates). In any case, it assumes that all countries are treated equally as stub types with identically patterned stubs. While this is desirable it is simply not possible. There was, for example, a massive editwar on {{ Cyprus-stub}} over the use of the Cyprus flag, which is not recognised by the Turkish north. Similarly, the wording of {{ Palestine-stub}} has been amended on several occasions. The stub system as currently employed works remarkably well, considering its apparent limitations; implementation of parameterised and similar stubs types has been found in the past to make the system far less effective overall. Grutness... wha? 03:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I recently blanked a nonsense page in the (obsolete) assumption that that would lead to its eventual deletion. To my surprise, it now got tagged by Alaibot ( talk · contribs) with the {{stub}} tag, which, as you know, states "You can help Wikipedia by expanding [this article]". While I understand that it's a good thing if bots tag uncategorized pages, I am concerned about the wholesale creation of pages that say "You can help Wikipedia by expanding it" - without any human ever having looked at it to see if it would really help Wikipedia. I don't know why the bot can't just say it as it is: "This case was uncategorized and may be a stub.". I can imagine that it would be much easier for stub sorting if you didn't have to deal with an indiscriminate mixture of deliberately marked stubs and stubs that merely fit some slightly related criteria. I may be wrong; I leave it up to you if you feel something should be done about it. — Sebastian 07:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC) (I may not be watching this page anymore. If you would like to continue the conversation, please do so here and let me know.)
The article in which i placed a random stub tag was a mistake. I couldn't find where I put it. (Thanks for reverting it) Taking the stub tag off of middle finger was bad Judgement on my part, sorry. The {{ placeholder}} tag was not meant to be a stub type. Sorry for any confusion, I have no intention to vandalise wikipedia in any way. If you have any questions message me. Thanks, Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 13:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Will you kindly withdraw your unwarranted accusation that I have voted twice? -- Redaktor 06:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I bow to your greater knowledge - but note the source book which called her SS repeatedly, (though not some named contemporaries) and was written in part by people with shipping - albeit modern shipping - it couldn't be "SS" due to the fact she had a steam engine on board? (doubt it myself as the steam engine was used to drive the compressor, not the ship). Winstonwolfe 00:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness, say, you created all those maps gracing the various NZ articles, didn't you? Like the backgrounds of North Island, South Island etc... do you keep them somewhere where others editors can use them? I'd need a blank South Island map for Transport in Milford Sound. Cheers, MadMaxDog 00:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello - please see mi:Wikipedia:Kōrero - I'd like us to have a vote to write into the conventions of the Māori Wikipedia a protocol for using the two official spoken languages of NZ in geographical infoboxes, similar to and complimentary with the convention recently agreed on the English language Wikipedia at Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board, where it was agreed to include the Māori language name of towns in infoboxes. This has now been provisionally included in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (New Zealand) and it would be nice to reciprocate and to confirm and regularise a practice we have already been following, if a little inconsistently. Feel free to ask me on my talk page if you have any questions - Cheers Kahuroa 08:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi - Though I can understand the reasons you downgraded the comments on templates and categories on be bold, I feel that it is still necessary to highlight the fact that be bold should rarely if ever apply to them, and have altered the article back accordingly. The principle of being bold is a good one in general, and works very well with articles. It works far less well in other namespaces, however, and that is why the "Be bold" page has evolved over the years to reflect that fact. As someone who spends a lot of time clearing up damage caused by people being bold at TFD, SFD, and CFD, I can tell you clearly that being bold has little if any place in category or template space. It causes nothing but considerable amounts of cleanup work for others.that is the reason why the "Be bold" page has evolved over the years to specifically call attention to the fact that they need special care. Suddenly undoing the gradual changes which have taken this page from a rough guideline to something actually workable is a Bad Thing, and one which is likely to cause far more harm than good to Wikipedia. Grutness... wha? 00:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Discouraging people from being bold in making changes to templates and categories before finding some form of consensus for the changes is not discouraging editing, it is exercising common sense. Discouraging people from editing other people's comments on talk pages and from editing other people's user pages is also exercising common sense. I've no objection to people being bold in correcting and adding to articles - that is what this page has been about all along. I'm just trying to reduce the work on clean-up, which is largely caused by people who don't find consensus before editing items that clearly need a consen. Grutness... wha? 04:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Grutness,
I'm originally from Nelson, but living in Oz at the moment. Tell me more about the NZ South Island Party. What were their policies? Do you think that public support for South Island Independence has increased over the last few years?
Cheers New Munsterian
As of time of posting there have been no comments at the France national rugby union team's FAC even though it's been an FAC for over a week. So i'm asking for some comments from some people that have commented on Rugby union FAC's before. Please comment here. A support or oppose (with reasons) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. - Shudda talk 00:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you fill me in on the deletion of the article Ring shout, now on the request list at WikiProject African diaspora? I have a scholarly source for this topic and would like to start an article (eventually), but first want to know the issues that led to its prior deletion. Was it a speedy? The deletion log has your name on it but no further info (e.g. no link to an AfD discussion). No hurry on this, but I'm most grateful for any help you can give. -- Rob C (Alarob) 02:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there Grutness,
I got your message about the speedy deletion of my stub ORSYP - which I didn't intend to submit, I was trying to edit it to make it into a final, well referenced article, and I accidentally submitted it. Of course, I don't have admin privileges so I had to wait for someone else to delete it. Thank you.
I finally did write a sourced article according to wikipedia guidelines with the aide of your constructive and cheerful fellow editors, who guided me to the creation of a proper article. For that I thank them.
I guess it wasn't evident by the erroneous stub tag, but the submission to which you refer really was a mistake. I would ask you to please reduce the level of my warning - I think it's clear that I've not joined the wikipedia community in bad faith, it just took me a minute to figure out how to write a good article.
~
At any rate, I'd appreciate a response for the sake of dialogue.
Please don't bite the newcomers.
Carimarie 07:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your very informative reply on my page, and I know that you are just doing your best to protect Wikipedia! You can be sure I'll put the info you gave me to good use!
Carimarie 11:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness
Would you mind taking a look at this article again? It looks to me like you're referring to the Northeast Greenland National Park but I've not heard it referred to as named after Lauge Koch. The most recent Danish atlas I have simply names the entire region "Nationalparken i Nord- og Østgrønland" (the national park in North and East Greenland). Could you've been thinking about Lauge Koch Vig (= Lauge Koch Bay) which is located within the park [1]? Best. Valentinian T / C 19:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
This file is an archive - please do not add new discussion here - add it to my Talk page
The first book at hand I consulted, Thracians by Alexander Fol and Valeria Fol, ISBN: 978-9549717181 has fifty-odd persons mentioned, not just kings and other nobles but also priests, poets, singers, artists etc. that could possibly need such a bio stub. In any case, if this template were deleted I trust there would be no objection to inserting in the relevant present articles a footnote to the same effect with no template used? I have no problems with having the template renamed 'Ancient-Thrace-stub'. Apcbg 08:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi there Grutness,
How come {{ Mauritius-geo-stub}} should be included in Southern Africa grouping? It is not listed anywhere on Category:Southern Africa geography stubs and is only "reckoned" to be included in Southern Africa.-- Thomas.macmillan 01:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness
After the fuzz about Western Sahara, I took a peek at the similar templates and realized that the Somaliland one used a flag of a secessionist administration. I've removed the flag, and if the creator of the template objects, I'll take the matter up on WP:WSS. Just wanted to keep you posted. Regards. Valentinian T / C 19:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
There are many articles about schools in Malaysia which are stubs. Not much proper information are provided in these articles. So I figure a new stub category would be really helpful to improve these articles. Horacenew 10:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I think you jumped the gun there a bit by speedy deleting it. I'd managed to have a confab with Bohater on his talk page about it, and when I had last checked he was applying the stub in a reasonable fashion rather than on everything remotely related to Kurdishness. Assuming that it can be applied in a responsible fashion, I see no reason why Kurdish-stub should be speedy deleted when we have other ethnic stubs such as {{ Roma-stub}} and {{ Jewish-hist-stub}}. Caerwine Caer’s whines 03:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness. Would you mind taking a look at the related thred on my talk page? It is just a thought, but it would make a bit more sense permcat-wise. Valentinian T / C 15:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused as to what's happened here: it looks like you intended to "speedy and salt", but AFAICS you neither deleted nor protected it. Since then there's been a minor db/hangon skirmish there, and a somewhat confused talk page conversation. Can you clarify what you did/intended to do? Does this still need "ordinary" closure? Alai 14:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I am also very confused... or at least, I was until I checked the edit history. Seems that when I deleted and salted what I actually ended up doing was unprotecting a page that had already been protected. So the {{ deletedpage}} didn't stay in place. Grutness... wha? 00:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Leave it for someone else, I think. If I re-speedied it might look like I had a bit of a vendetta against it. Also conversation on the topic moved on considerably after the first speedying. It's all a bit of a mess, really, which I didn't exactly help to clean up much :/ Grutness... wha? 02:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. The stub type, which was not proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Wikipedia:Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness... wha? 02:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay - yes, it is a boilerplate template, that is true, and that is the reason why little specific information was included. Firstly, the two templates (this and {[tlprovstub}} were never proposed as stub types - if they had been, then you'd have got plenty of information from a large number of people. In the case of provstub, it may not even be a stub types, by the looks of it, in which case it at the very least needs renaming to something which doesn't end in stub (SFD covers renaming as well as deletion). In the case of {{ Country flagstub}}, it too is misnamed by stub naming guidelines, but more importantly it is a metatemplate of a type which has been rejected frequently in the past at WP:WSS as being too difficult to maintain, causing far more work than it is intended to save. Also, there may be concerns as far as server load is concerned, since if implemented it would be incredibly high use (see Wikipedia:Transclusion costs and benefits for some of the reasons, and consider too that provstub requires double transclusion since it has nested templates). In any case, it assumes that all countries are treated equally as stub types with identically patterned stubs. While this is desirable it is simply not possible. There was, for example, a massive editwar on {{ Cyprus-stub}} over the use of the Cyprus flag, which is not recognised by the Turkish north. Similarly, the wording of {{ Palestine-stub}} has been amended on several occasions. The stub system as currently employed works remarkably well, considering its apparent limitations; implementation of parameterised and similar stubs types has been found in the past to make the system far less effective overall. Grutness... wha? 03:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I recently blanked a nonsense page in the (obsolete) assumption that that would lead to its eventual deletion. To my surprise, it now got tagged by Alaibot ( talk · contribs) with the {{stub}} tag, which, as you know, states "You can help Wikipedia by expanding [this article]". While I understand that it's a good thing if bots tag uncategorized pages, I am concerned about the wholesale creation of pages that say "You can help Wikipedia by expanding it" - without any human ever having looked at it to see if it would really help Wikipedia. I don't know why the bot can't just say it as it is: "This case was uncategorized and may be a stub.". I can imagine that it would be much easier for stub sorting if you didn't have to deal with an indiscriminate mixture of deliberately marked stubs and stubs that merely fit some slightly related criteria. I may be wrong; I leave it up to you if you feel something should be done about it. — Sebastian 07:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC) (I may not be watching this page anymore. If you would like to continue the conversation, please do so here and let me know.)
The article in which i placed a random stub tag was a mistake. I couldn't find where I put it. (Thanks for reverting it) Taking the stub tag off of middle finger was bad Judgement on my part, sorry. The {{ placeholder}} tag was not meant to be a stub type. Sorry for any confusion, I have no intention to vandalise wikipedia in any way. If you have any questions message me. Thanks, Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 13:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Will you kindly withdraw your unwarranted accusation that I have voted twice? -- Redaktor 06:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I bow to your greater knowledge - but note the source book which called her SS repeatedly, (though not some named contemporaries) and was written in part by people with shipping - albeit modern shipping - it couldn't be "SS" due to the fact she had a steam engine on board? (doubt it myself as the steam engine was used to drive the compressor, not the ship). Winstonwolfe 00:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness, say, you created all those maps gracing the various NZ articles, didn't you? Like the backgrounds of North Island, South Island etc... do you keep them somewhere where others editors can use them? I'd need a blank South Island map for Transport in Milford Sound. Cheers, MadMaxDog 00:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello - please see mi:Wikipedia:Kōrero - I'd like us to have a vote to write into the conventions of the Māori Wikipedia a protocol for using the two official spoken languages of NZ in geographical infoboxes, similar to and complimentary with the convention recently agreed on the English language Wikipedia at Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board, where it was agreed to include the Māori language name of towns in infoboxes. This has now been provisionally included in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (New Zealand) and it would be nice to reciprocate and to confirm and regularise a practice we have already been following, if a little inconsistently. Feel free to ask me on my talk page if you have any questions - Cheers Kahuroa 08:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi - Though I can understand the reasons you downgraded the comments on templates and categories on be bold, I feel that it is still necessary to highlight the fact that be bold should rarely if ever apply to them, and have altered the article back accordingly. The principle of being bold is a good one in general, and works very well with articles. It works far less well in other namespaces, however, and that is why the "Be bold" page has evolved over the years to reflect that fact. As someone who spends a lot of time clearing up damage caused by people being bold at TFD, SFD, and CFD, I can tell you clearly that being bold has little if any place in category or template space. It causes nothing but considerable amounts of cleanup work for others.that is the reason why the "Be bold" page has evolved over the years to specifically call attention to the fact that they need special care. Suddenly undoing the gradual changes which have taken this page from a rough guideline to something actually workable is a Bad Thing, and one which is likely to cause far more harm than good to Wikipedia. Grutness... wha? 00:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Discouraging people from being bold in making changes to templates and categories before finding some form of consensus for the changes is not discouraging editing, it is exercising common sense. Discouraging people from editing other people's comments on talk pages and from editing other people's user pages is also exercising common sense. I've no objection to people being bold in correcting and adding to articles - that is what this page has been about all along. I'm just trying to reduce the work on clean-up, which is largely caused by people who don't find consensus before editing items that clearly need a consen. Grutness... wha? 04:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Grutness,
I'm originally from Nelson, but living in Oz at the moment. Tell me more about the NZ South Island Party. What were their policies? Do you think that public support for South Island Independence has increased over the last few years?
Cheers New Munsterian
As of time of posting there have been no comments at the France national rugby union team's FAC even though it's been an FAC for over a week. So i'm asking for some comments from some people that have commented on Rugby union FAC's before. Please comment here. A support or oppose (with reasons) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. - Shudda talk 00:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you fill me in on the deletion of the article Ring shout, now on the request list at WikiProject African diaspora? I have a scholarly source for this topic and would like to start an article (eventually), but first want to know the issues that led to its prior deletion. Was it a speedy? The deletion log has your name on it but no further info (e.g. no link to an AfD discussion). No hurry on this, but I'm most grateful for any help you can give. -- Rob C (Alarob) 02:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for uploading Image:NZflag proposal-dignan.gif. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.
As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{ GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{ non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 02:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. (P.S. I really want to know, as I intend to upload it to Commons. D.S.) Himasaram 02:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi there Grutness,
I got your message about the speedy deletion of my stub ORSYP - which I didn't intend to submit, I was trying to edit it to make it into a final, well referenced article, and I accidentally submitted it. Of course, I don't have admin privileges so I had to wait for someone else to delete it. Thank you.
I finally did write a sourced article according to wikipedia guidelines with the aide of your constructive and cheerful fellow editors, who guided me to the creation of a proper article. For that I thank them.
I guess it wasn't evident by the erroneous stub tag, but the submission to which you refer really was a mistake. I would ask you to please reduce the level of my warning - I think it's clear that I've not joined the wikipedia community in bad faith, it just took me a minute to figure out how to write a good article.
~
At any rate, I'd appreciate a response for the sake of dialogue.
Please don't bite the newcomers.
Carimarie 07:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your very informative reply on my page, and I know that you are just doing your best to protect Wikipedia! You can be sure I'll put the info you gave me to good use!
Carimarie 11:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Grutness
Would you mind taking a look at this article again? It looks to me like you're referring to the Northeast Greenland National Park but I've not heard it referred to as named after Lauge Koch. The most recent Danish atlas I have simply names the entire region "Nationalparken i Nord- og Østgrønland" (the national park in North and East Greenland). Could you've been thinking about Lauge Koch Vig (= Lauge Koch Bay) which is located within the park [1]? Best. Valentinian T / C 19:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)