Just a note to thank you. It is nice to see discretionary action expeditiously undertaken that resolves misunderstandings without recourse to the nuisance of partisan bickering in formal courts or noticeboards on adjudication. You may pass on this to our mutual friend, with whom I have a tough relationship. Neither User:Gatoclass nor I availed ourselves of the usual recourses, but held our silence, independently for a week, hoping for a change of mind. Though my judgements on my page were then harsh, (and he is welcome to express himself freely on my page in remonstration, whenever, without fear of my having recourse to sanctions. We're blokes), they were so to hasten a change of mind in lieu of the facile recourse to formal denunciations, which all to easily lend themselves to gaming and wasting administrators' time, something all too frequently used by many posters in this difficult area. Best wishes then, and that is the end of it. Nishidani ( talk) 14:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words at ANI. I really am flattered that you think I'd be a good sysop but as I said to Fozzie I just don't feel that I have the time to give that that office deserves at the moment. Hope everything is going well at your end. Actually would you mind have a quick read of Women's rights - just to give a quick opinion on how coherent and generally readable it is-- Cailil talk 19:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) It's hard to cover such a large topic in a single article. The page needs work. I'll bullet point this:
Durova Charge! 22:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I have gone through and cleared out some stuff here, awarding users some well-deserved Crowns of varying sorts. (4) editors are left that I'd rather you look over/award instead of me. Myself and Awadewit ( talk · contribs) are up for the "Alexander", which I think is a first for User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle. Cirt ( talk) 11:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
In keeping with your past efforts, you may wish to nominate Don Murphy for deletion/merge/redirect (for a third time) as he has a Daniel Brandt level notability and trouble making probability and has asked for it to be deleted. Do we really want two years of Brandt like disruption over this? Why not move the most notable content to other articles like we did for Brandt and redirect the article to his most notable movie? There is a book written by his partner in which he figures prominently, but reviews of the book make it arguable that it could non-libelously be called fiction. If you choose to start such a deletion process, you can add my name or not as you choose. I dislike bureaucratic process and shy away from it. WAS 4.250 ( talk) 16:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Viridae said he thought about starting the delete process but he "frankly can't be bothered stick my neck out and arguing for someone who is frankly so nasty at every turn." WAS 4.250 ( talk) 16:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Heads up D. [ [2]] Viridae Talk 02:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
I found myself in a Talbots yesterday and their spring line has a lovely 2-button, short-sleeve cardigan done entirely in fan stitch, crocheted from the neckline down. The spacing between the fans is gradually increased as you move down the cardigan, by increasing the number of chain stitches between them. It'd be really easy to make, I think, but has an understated, elegant look. Anyway, it made me think of you. :) I'll get to those revised crochet images soon, hang on a little longer! :) Willow ( talk) 14:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
all the files are now online - and thanks again for coming along for a chat... whether you were vocal, or more of a listener, your support is fantastic - and do consider hosting a skypecast of your own before too long! (I think I pressed all of three buttons this time!) - once again thanks, and I look forward to seeing you around! cheers, Privatemusings ( talk) 03:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Igor Berger ( talk) 03:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The only thing i know it comes from commons here Igor Berger ( talk) 04:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I wanted to ask if you had seen my revision, since at the deletion review for Don Murphy, you did not think he was a notable figure. I had attempted to expand the article to cement his notability, but due to a sockpuppet reverting me, the article was then protected and discussion was initiated. I just wanted to see if you were aware about the more fleshed-out revision that seemed to show that he has been covered in much detail. RTFA ( talk) 03:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
You wanted to be alerted when the Don Murphy DRV was complete if it resulted in the article being overturned. That result has now occurred so I am alerting you. However, given how many people in the DRV thought that he was clearly too notable to be reasonably subject to courtesy deletion, and given the previous AfDs, I feel compelled to advise you not to AfD this. JoshuaZ ( talk) 01:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear Durova,
Thx for your msg. informing me of the problem with one of the FA's listed in my application. I'm unclear for FA's as to whether you look at significant contribs by edit count (such as MOS fixes and added images) or solely inline cites (refs?). If the former, I had 12 edits/images on William Hillcourt between Feb. 7-26, when the article passed FAC.
But, even disqualifying William Hillcourt altogether, that still leaves me with two (2) featured articles on which I was the nom and major contributor by any criterion: Royal Blue (B&O train) and E. Urner Goodman. As such, don't 2 FA's, +2 GA's, and +2 DYK's still qualify me for the Imperial Triple Crown Jewel? JGHowes talk - 18:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
JGHowes ( talk · contribs) - Yeah, why don't you go ahead and do that. Cirt ( talk) 22:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Regarding [3] I don't have a citation off the top of my head, but in material I've read about him, that's a pretty common sentiment. If someone wants to get out one of the dread tree sources on his life it shouldn't be that hard to find good source for that statement. At minimum, the summarizing note that the patents were heavily disputed is easily verifiable and important. JoshuaZ ( talk) 04:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Also, could you maybe take a look at my comment on the talk page? One of the sources we are currently using may not be reliable. JoshuaZ ( talk) 04:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks. I look forward to shooting for that Genghis Khan award (need eleven more pieces of featured content, and quite a few DYKs/GAs though :p). Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ( Converse) 06:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I made a bunch of improvements. Hopefully, it's a good start. Sincerely, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 06:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the award.— Rod talk 07:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
[4] I thought you were too shy? Well maybe I will be able to remember. Hopefully. As you can see, I suggested this back in August. And now we are trying it! That is great.-- Filll ( talk) 00:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
When I suggested this to DGG last year, he was very negative about it. But I think it could be valuable in some cases, just like the meetups. I do have a very strange voice personally, however. It makes me cringe every time I hear it.-- Filll ( talk) 00:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Noticed you did some excellent edits to Moses H. Cone. Perhaps you would like to look over Cone Mills Corporation, a related article I recently expanded ten-fold and submitted as a possible DYK.-- Doug talk 13:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Durova. I recently read your excellent Signpost article and was inspired to attempt a restoration for myself, of a portrait of Ulysses S. Grant. The original image is public domain, from the Library of Congress, Image:UlyssesGrant.jpg, and my restoration is at Image:UlyssesGrant-restore.jpg. What do you think? I'm a complete novice at this, so any input or tips would help a lot. :) Best, Keilana| Parlez ici 14:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Spring {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! ~~~~
Please read, important. Igor Berger ( talk) 09:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
...are just way too funny for your own good. Still laughing. --David Shankbone 14:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
With all respect, I would have to let you know that the overwhelming consensus on that DRV was that subject was notable. Doing an AFD so soon afterwards may not be desirable, given the DRV.
NonvocalScream (
talk) 01:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I've written up my reasons for nominating at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Don Murphy (3rd nomination). Durova Charge! 02:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! List of brain tumor patients was selected as a List of the Day for April. Let me know if you have a strong preference for a date.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTD) 07:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Just a note to thank you. It is nice to see discretionary action expeditiously undertaken that resolves misunderstandings without recourse to the nuisance of partisan bickering in formal courts or noticeboards on adjudication. You may pass on this to our mutual friend, with whom I have a tough relationship. Neither User:Gatoclass nor I availed ourselves of the usual recourses, but held our silence, independently for a week, hoping for a change of mind. Though my judgements on my page were then harsh, (and he is welcome to express himself freely on my page in remonstration, whenever, without fear of my having recourse to sanctions. We're blokes), they were so to hasten a change of mind in lieu of the facile recourse to formal denunciations, which all to easily lend themselves to gaming and wasting administrators' time, something all too frequently used by many posters in this difficult area. Best wishes then, and that is the end of it. Nishidani ( talk) 14:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words at ANI. I really am flattered that you think I'd be a good sysop but as I said to Fozzie I just don't feel that I have the time to give that that office deserves at the moment. Hope everything is going well at your end. Actually would you mind have a quick read of Women's rights - just to give a quick opinion on how coherent and generally readable it is-- Cailil talk 19:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) It's hard to cover such a large topic in a single article. The page needs work. I'll bullet point this:
Durova Charge! 22:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I have gone through and cleared out some stuff here, awarding users some well-deserved Crowns of varying sorts. (4) editors are left that I'd rather you look over/award instead of me. Myself and Awadewit ( talk · contribs) are up for the "Alexander", which I think is a first for User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle. Cirt ( talk) 11:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
In keeping with your past efforts, you may wish to nominate Don Murphy for deletion/merge/redirect (for a third time) as he has a Daniel Brandt level notability and trouble making probability and has asked for it to be deleted. Do we really want two years of Brandt like disruption over this? Why not move the most notable content to other articles like we did for Brandt and redirect the article to his most notable movie? There is a book written by his partner in which he figures prominently, but reviews of the book make it arguable that it could non-libelously be called fiction. If you choose to start such a deletion process, you can add my name or not as you choose. I dislike bureaucratic process and shy away from it. WAS 4.250 ( talk) 16:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Viridae said he thought about starting the delete process but he "frankly can't be bothered stick my neck out and arguing for someone who is frankly so nasty at every turn." WAS 4.250 ( talk) 16:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Heads up D. [ [2]] Viridae Talk 02:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Durova,
I found myself in a Talbots yesterday and their spring line has a lovely 2-button, short-sleeve cardigan done entirely in fan stitch, crocheted from the neckline down. The spacing between the fans is gradually increased as you move down the cardigan, by increasing the number of chain stitches between them. It'd be really easy to make, I think, but has an understated, elegant look. Anyway, it made me think of you. :) I'll get to those revised crochet images soon, hang on a little longer! :) Willow ( talk) 14:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
all the files are now online - and thanks again for coming along for a chat... whether you were vocal, or more of a listener, your support is fantastic - and do consider hosting a skypecast of your own before too long! (I think I pressed all of three buttons this time!) - once again thanks, and I look forward to seeing you around! cheers, Privatemusings ( talk) 03:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Igor Berger ( talk) 03:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The only thing i know it comes from commons here Igor Berger ( talk) 04:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I wanted to ask if you had seen my revision, since at the deletion review for Don Murphy, you did not think he was a notable figure. I had attempted to expand the article to cement his notability, but due to a sockpuppet reverting me, the article was then protected and discussion was initiated. I just wanted to see if you were aware about the more fleshed-out revision that seemed to show that he has been covered in much detail. RTFA ( talk) 03:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
You wanted to be alerted when the Don Murphy DRV was complete if it resulted in the article being overturned. That result has now occurred so I am alerting you. However, given how many people in the DRV thought that he was clearly too notable to be reasonably subject to courtesy deletion, and given the previous AfDs, I feel compelled to advise you not to AfD this. JoshuaZ ( talk) 01:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear Durova,
Thx for your msg. informing me of the problem with one of the FA's listed in my application. I'm unclear for FA's as to whether you look at significant contribs by edit count (such as MOS fixes and added images) or solely inline cites (refs?). If the former, I had 12 edits/images on William Hillcourt between Feb. 7-26, when the article passed FAC.
But, even disqualifying William Hillcourt altogether, that still leaves me with two (2) featured articles on which I was the nom and major contributor by any criterion: Royal Blue (B&O train) and E. Urner Goodman. As such, don't 2 FA's, +2 GA's, and +2 DYK's still qualify me for the Imperial Triple Crown Jewel? JGHowes talk - 18:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
JGHowes ( talk · contribs) - Yeah, why don't you go ahead and do that. Cirt ( talk) 22:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Regarding [3] I don't have a citation off the top of my head, but in material I've read about him, that's a pretty common sentiment. If someone wants to get out one of the dread tree sources on his life it shouldn't be that hard to find good source for that statement. At minimum, the summarizing note that the patents were heavily disputed is easily verifiable and important. JoshuaZ ( talk) 04:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Also, could you maybe take a look at my comment on the talk page? One of the sources we are currently using may not be reliable. JoshuaZ ( talk) 04:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks. I look forward to shooting for that Genghis Khan award (need eleven more pieces of featured content, and quite a few DYKs/GAs though :p). Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ( Converse) 06:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I made a bunch of improvements. Hopefully, it's a good start. Sincerely, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 06:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the award.— Rod talk 07:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
[4] I thought you were too shy? Well maybe I will be able to remember. Hopefully. As you can see, I suggested this back in August. And now we are trying it! That is great.-- Filll ( talk) 00:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
When I suggested this to DGG last year, he was very negative about it. But I think it could be valuable in some cases, just like the meetups. I do have a very strange voice personally, however. It makes me cringe every time I hear it.-- Filll ( talk) 00:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Noticed you did some excellent edits to Moses H. Cone. Perhaps you would like to look over Cone Mills Corporation, a related article I recently expanded ten-fold and submitted as a possible DYK.-- Doug talk 13:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Durova. I recently read your excellent Signpost article and was inspired to attempt a restoration for myself, of a portrait of Ulysses S. Grant. The original image is public domain, from the Library of Congress, Image:UlyssesGrant.jpg, and my restoration is at Image:UlyssesGrant-restore.jpg. What do you think? I'm a complete novice at this, so any input or tips would help a lot. :) Best, Keilana| Parlez ici 14:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Spring {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! ~~~~
Please read, important. Igor Berger ( talk) 09:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
...are just way too funny for your own good. Still laughing. --David Shankbone 14:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
With all respect, I would have to let you know that the overwhelming consensus on that DRV was that subject was notable. Doing an AFD so soon afterwards may not be desirable, given the DRV.
NonvocalScream (
talk) 01:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I've written up my reasons for nominating at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Don Murphy (3rd nomination). Durova Charge! 02:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! List of brain tumor patients was selected as a List of the Day for April. Let me know if you have a strong preference for a date.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTD) 07:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)