How the hell are ya? :) I haven't heard from you in awhile. Wassup? :) -- Woohookitty (meow) 11:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#A list of fascists on en.wiki, FYI; see also the changes in Wikipedia:No personal attacks and the discussion. -jkb- 15:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi. You took previously part in discussions about the off-wiki NPA policy. There is a new quick opinion poll that is now posted on the Talk page there. Your input is appreciated! See
Thx, -jkb- 11:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, here's some updates today:
She left a message on my talk page. The part that stood out the most is the following:
You cannot even guess how many sockpuppets i've there at the moment.You cannot confirm everyone in case your relations.At least, i press money and hire a couple of people for this job and even make them admins.
She later left this message on an anon's talk page. And then after that this one, which is a bit ironic, because it's the same user she said "I AM NOT A JEW AND I AM %100 ORIGINAL TURKISH" to. Anyways, that's it for today. — Khoikhoi 00:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello there!
I’m writing regarding a RFA against my person, Messhermit. I have been absent from editing from Wikipedia for some time, due to Finals in College and for personal reasons (I needed to take a break, I don’t like lengthy discussions).
However, I found with the surprise that apparently the committee has reached a conclusion without giving me the opportunity to portray my side of the story. I tried to reach another of the parties involved in the arbitration, receiving a positive answer assuring me that the case and its outcome can wait until I finish my finals [1] .
I now humble ask a chance to expose my case and not being judged with only one side of the conflict portrayed. I believe that Wikipedia is a fair place to work and that all this can be settle without reaching extremes. Please, I’ll be waiting for an answer. Messhermit
P.D. As a side note, I have my evidence on Notepad. I will be posting it in a couple of days.
I think you made a mistake there, the remedy against me hasn't passed. -- ManiF 06:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
As you may have seen, I made some proposals on the Aucaman Workshop page. Could you give me some brief feedback if this is going to be considered and whether you think any of it has a chance of affecting the final outcome at this stage? Thanks, Lukas (T.| @) 07:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Could you check your e-mail, please? I've asked you a question about something I'd really like to know. Thanks, Bishonen | talk 19:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC).
In light of recent sockpuppeting by Rex071404 ( talk · contribs) a/k/a/ Merecat ( talk · contribs) to violate the permanent ban on his editing of John Kerry, I've requested the fourth and most recent 'Rex' RfAr be reopened and if appropriate, the remedies re-defined and re-applied. As a prior petitioner of that RfAr, I'm notifying you here. Thank you. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 23:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit. I'd like to inform you about another user,
Metb82 (
talk ·
contribs). He's the same guy who spammed the talk pages of 100 people to oppose my RfA. Anyways, today he left
this message on a user's talk page. What should I do? Should I respond to it? The user has a history of personal attacks, (such as
this and
this), he
vandalized my user page once, and I've caught him using open proxies, such as
59.144.164.185 (
talk ·
contribs) to disguise himself. And check his user page, because it doesn't get any better. —
Khoikhoi 05:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm taking this complaint pretty seriously, but I'll deal with it through a warning to Metb82 in the first instance [2]. I ask KhoiKhoi to notify either me or Dmcdevit if the attacks continue, and they will then be dealt with appropriately. -- Tony Sidaway 01:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Just because something has the word "anti" in it doesn't mean it is divisive. This deletion was roughly equivalent to deleting an "anti-racism" template. Please reconsider your deletion in that context. Zotel - the Stub Maker 13:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Over the last few months I have worked hard to raise a red flag about extremist groups using Wikipedia for propaganda purposes. I have now brought the issue to the attention of those at the very highest levels within the Wikipedia community.
Now that I have gone through all of Wikipedia's bureaucratic hoops, what steps are being taken to correct the problem? How are policies being changed to prevent advocacy groups from using Wikipedia to disseminate propaganda?
There is widespread agreement that "Societal attitudes towards homosexuality" is not an impartial article written by impartial people, but nobody cares enough to fix the problem. Is leaving the same group of editors in charge of the same article supposed to produce different results somehow? How long will it be before the article claims a correlation between natural disasters and Protestantism again? Now that this has been brought to the attention of the powers that be, what mechanism has been put into place to prevent that from happening again?
Can it be that nobody in the Wikipedia community, including ArbCom and Jimbo, cares about the integrity of Wikipedia? I have suggested several approaches to help prevent this kind of misuse of Wikipedia in the future. Is Wikipedia going to adopt these approaches, or will you continue to ignore the problem and discipline whistleblowers instead?
We all know that ArbCom knows how to give users the boot - they do it all the time - but who is going to actually fix the problem?
Lou franklin 15:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I just noticed your "wary about the "very knowledgeable"" statement on Marcosantezana's RFAr. It's my guess that this user is Marcos A. Antezana (a post-doc, or other non faculty researcher?) at the University of Chicago with a number of publications, including three in Journal of Molecular Evolution and others in Journal of Molecular Biology and Genetical Research. I don't think such information ought to, or will, change anyone's views or votes, but he does seem to have a level of knowledge of the topic consistent with this. Best Regards, Pete.Hurd 20:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Please look at this message left on my talkpage by User:Partha rathore. Can you block him? I have already complained on Admin's notice-board. Regards, ImpuMozhi 02:53, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I see you had a template deleting session a few days ago. The T1 deletion policy has always been divisive and inflammatory and has always caused strife (ah the irony!) and there are many who think it a very, very, very bad idea. I don't fully count myself as one of those but what I have made known in the past is my concern over the vague nature of the deletion policy. I see little improvement in this version. What is "divisive and inflammatory"? Dictionary.com defines it as "creating dissension or discord" and "arousing passion or strong emotion, especially anger, belligerence, or desire" for the two words respectively. Now I can see that what you have deleted fulfils the second criterion easily, but then so does inclusionism on Wikipedia and I don't see you deleting that user box or other similar ones. I would strongly contest that the userboxes are "creating dissension or discord". The dissension and discord is there already and the userboxes inform about the viewpoint of the person concerned. The Euro is controversial and gun laws are controversial so they will arouse passions, but better those who have those viewpoints, on whatever side, are known and have those views out in the open.
So we have templates that are certainly inflammatory but I would not say are divisive. What means that those templates in particular deserved to be deleted? Does't the Windows XP user template on my user page deserve deletion under your reasoning? Doesn't the Stargate watcher template on my user page deserve deletion under your reasoning? Both are the subject of heated discussions which could qualify for inflammatory and both would seem to be "divisive" using your interpretation of the term. Do you think they are? If not how can you justify the deletions you made? If so I suggest you delete far more templates than you did. David Newton 15:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I was disgusted, but not terribly surprised, to see that six members of the Arbitration Committee -- Dmcdevit, Fred Bauder, JamesF/James D. Forrester, Sean Barrett/The Epopt, Charles Matthews and Jayjg -- condone hate speech and hateful epithets directed at the mentally disabled, and consider condemnation of that hate speech to be unacceptable behavior on Wikipedia -- behavior, in fact, so unacceptable that they say they find it a compelling reason to punish me.
I was a bit more surprised when an earlier form of this letter (differing only in describing the status of the pending arbitration, aside from this paragraph) was banned without explantion from the Wikipedia mailing list where such topics could supposedly be discussed. But I was appalled when discussions on that list, regarding a named editor, turned to open derision of the editor's supposed emotional/mental impairments, and that one Arbitration Committee member participated in the abuse.
As someone who has been involved for more than thirty years, professionally and nonprofessionally, in attempting to protect and to advance the rights of the mentally disabled, and as someone who for many years has served, and continues to serve as a guardian for such disabled members of my community. I find the use of such epithets grossly offensive; they are clearly inconsistent with Wikipedia's supposed commitment to civility. They form no part of civil discourse in any circumstances. They are particularly deserving of condemnation because they are directed toward, in very real terms attack, and have the greatest tendency to injure, a class of people who are less able, sometimes unable, to defend themselves, to resist the impact, or to respond on equal terms. [And, as a note to the politically correct, it is for that reason that I will not use the abominable term "mentally challenged," because it denies (sometimes grossly minimizes) the imbalances of social power that inhere in the relationships between the mentally disabled and the "unchallenged" elements of any community.]
It should be no secret, no obscure facet of social fabric, that the mentally disabled, particularly the mentally retarded, are at greater risk than almost any other segment of a society. More likely to be the victims of physical attacks. More likely to be neglected by governments, particularly when their needs are greatest. In the relatively rare instances when they have substantial assets, they are more likely to have their assets stolen, particularly at the hands of those actors on whom a government has conferred power over them. They are more likely to be degraded and exploited by industries which purport to protect them and to serve their interests. More like to be the victims of sexual assaults, particularly of organized, group sexual assaults.
The casual use of such hateful epithets does not only harm the individuals it targets. It causes pain, often great pain to many others. It regularly inflicts pain on those with brothers and sisters, with parents, with children, with friends, with acquaintances, even with clients, who are abused and dehumanized by such behavior. It regularly inflicts pain on so many of those who deal, day by day, with lesser mental and emotional impairments, whether they choose to acknowledge those impairments, publicly or privately, or not.
I am quite proud that a self-styled community which apparently condones such behavior and condemns opposition to it finds me such a danger to it and its values that it is preparing to forcibly separate me from it. Nothing I have contributed to this curious place makes me more proud, and I doubt anything else could.
Not licensed, no rights released
Thank you very much for your notice; however, civility/uncivility does not contribute in any way to my 'case', for a lot of the admins have made their decision already, and have rejected the consensus.-- Constanz - Talk 06:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello. Being you one of the Arbitrators involved in the ArbCom case Messhermit, I would like to approach you about two inquiries I have.
I have to protest these baseless accusations:
A separate topic is presented.
Finally:
Since you've been involved in attempts to deal with AlexPU lately, you may be interested in this post at WP:AN/I. The highly offensive troll seem to have an issue with those who disagree with him and perpetually harasses his opponents and defies all calls to cool off. -- Ghirla -трёп- 07:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
This one is still active, it appears. Maybe I should screw up Transvestic fetishism. Thanks for your help. e WBardwin 08:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Could you have a look at the struck out line near the bottom at this page and click on the linked word "here". How could this happen?. How do I destroy it? Cheers. Moriori 10:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I wrote you yesterday regarding the ArbCom case Messhermit. Anyway, I approach you again today about this matter. Please see this request of mine here if you will. Could you tell me what can I do about it, or to whom should I address this request? Thank you again. Andrés C. 19:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow -- a lot of work, and on my behalf. A knight in shining armor. This was a particularly bad sequence of blocks. As a bypass attempt, I changed my AOL call up numbers, so I might have been assigned a new set of IP's as well. But, between us, I was able to revert my first vandal in the last 20 hours or so and do a little writing. I've disabled the template. Thanks for your help. WBardwin 08:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
The deletion of the template regarding the separation of church and state was not cool. Especially since you arbitarily did it with no notice. It's bullshit. Next time at least have the decency to warn people beforehand - heck why not actually let people vote on it instead of enforcing your own viewpoint on everyone. Dankru 10:37, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
WTF gives you the right to just delete templates like {{ User Pro Concealed Carry}}?! Just because you're on ArbCom doesn't mean you get to go all Deletionist on us. People put effort into userboxen because we like them. They're here to stay. Hooray for Unilateralism, I guess. E. Sn0 =31337= 14:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Please read the discussions here [5] and here [6] before finishing off Terryeo's RfA. A number of us are hoping the arbitrators will vote on banning Terryeo from Scientology-related talk pages as well. Thank you. BTfromLA 17:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello again. Recently a friend of mine informed me about a user's comments on the Turkish Wikipedia about how he is "proud to be an anti-Semite". His name is Ruzgar ( talk · contribs). Today he left a note on my talk page:
[7] Yes I have write that. I am proud to being this "anti-seminist".
In his short history here on the English Wikipedia, he has pretty much done nothing but repeatedly delete sourced material ( [8] [9] [10], and POV-pushing, including Holocaust denial ( [11] [12]). Any idea what I should do about this? As a Jew, I'm quite frankly afraid to warn this guy about personal attacks. Thank you. — Khoikhoi 03:40, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
— G. H e has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{ subst:smile}}, {{ subst:smile2}} or {{ subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!
— G. H e 23:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Dmcdevit, and thank you for your nomination, and kind comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again! + + Lar: t/ c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC) |
Adverts: Like The Beatles?... Like LEGO?... In a WikiProject that classifies articles?... Are you an accountable admin?... |
Shouldn't it be protected or semiprotected, since it's on the main page? -- M1ss1ontom a rs2k4 ( T | C | @) 00:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
If Arbcom grants checkUser and Oversight, is there therefore anyway to ask for Oversight? How did they choose the current usergroup member? Was it off-site? Thanks. Voice-of-All Talk 09:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I would like you to take a look at the removal by Jayjg of a section in the article. [13] This section was first inserted in mid April, when the speech was widely reported internationally. Jayjg removed it not only without suggesting an alternative, but did not make any mention of the fact that he had removed it in the discussion section. That major change was first discussed after two reversions by other people when I brought it up in the discussion section. I restored it to the state it had existed for six weeks pending a compromise being reached in discussion but it was reverted by a different user. I removed all quotations except one so that the section fit better with the others. Jayjg reverted that also. [14] I find this behavior offensive from anyone, especially an arbcom member. TopRank 16:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
-- Cactus.man ✍ 11:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
For your ArbCom work and ability to hold through tough situations, I award you this Barnstar of ArbCom General Ass-Kicking. Thank you for perfoming this task with the great skill you do. Yours, Snoutwood (talk) 21:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, for your information I am setting up a request for mediation with Tony on his user abuse. See User:Georgewilliamherbert/TSMed. If you have any comments or would like to join the mediation, please feel free to do so. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert 19:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I provided diffs to edit war. I have also provided links to support prior edit war and listed editors who support my side of the argument (many guys) and his side (one guy). Danny Pi 00:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to mention that you had voted to reject my arbcom request pending those diffs that I have now provided. I'd appreciate if you reviewed the updated proposal. I realize you guys are really busy. Thanks! Danny Pi 00:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there a reason the ArbCom is not touching any pages other than the proposed decision? -- SPUI ( T - C) 01:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
A few weeks back I suggested a lot more findings of fact for the Deathrocker/Leyasu arbitration case. It seemed that only Fred looked at those, and he didn't put any of them on the proposed decision page. Could you look those over? Leyasu was trying to use the "The ArbCom didn't find this as fact" argument with me once when I went over some things from the last case with him, and I want to make sure that the ArbCom has a formal record that certain things have happened in the Leyasu/Deathrocker dispute. I really don't think that the points on the proposed decision page right now are enough. (I may be posting some more proposed findings of fact later today.)
Also, Leyasu has been blatantly evading blocks this month through anons and sockpuppets that he has been using for edit warring. Deathrocker posted some additional evidence about that on the Evidence page, and Tony Sidaway banned Leyasu from heavy metal articles (most of Leyasu's edits have been to those articles). I've proposed some additional remedies for both Leyasu and Deathrocker as a result of that, so I'd like you to look at those too and add whichever ones you think are good to the proposed decision page.
I noticed you were voting on the proposed decisions in this case pretty fast, so I thought I'd ask you. -- Idont Havaname ( Talk) 19:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
If I am to be included in any probationary measures, I request that you explain what, if any, evidence has been presented against me that influenced your decision to include me. Even after I made a specific request for evidence of any bad acts I've committed, [15] the only time I've even mentioned on the Evidence or Workshop pages is one instance in which I characterized SPUI's page moves as being akin to vandalism, [16] a characterization I subsequently retracted after reviewing the relevant policy. [17] Other than that, no one has presented any evidence against me at all.
My position is that I have responded to SPUI's page moves every time by seeking advice and assistance at WP:AN/I, rather than by reflexively warring with him; have only reverted SPUI's moves on a small number of occasions after being confronted with clear and convincing evidence of overwhelming administrator indifference to any such moves; and that I stopped moving pages entirely after an admin asked me to disengage from the move war as a unilateral gesture of conciliation. I can provide diffs to prove all of these things on request. — phh ( t/ c) 20:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions! + + Lar: t/ c 01:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Only one question. If the 6 April article I rewrote with Midgley [36] was a NPOV correction of the previous pov incarnation (in which Midgley, not I, removed the tag), how can this be considered "Tendentious editing by Cesar Tort [...]" in Proposed decision? [37]. — Cesar Tort 15:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
From one Portlander to another. Do you have plans to attend OSCON next month? (Or will you even be in Oregon over the summer break?) I am in the process of organizing a BOF on Wikipedia for that, & would like to invite you to it. (And I've learned that you don't need to pay money to attend BOFs, so that shouldn't be a problem.) -- llywrch 15:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Dmcdevit, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you explain, I've been helping this user out with policy and such... I login and find that the article was speedy deleted and the user indef blocked? Crazynas 07:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. RFC doesn't work too well when one has been summarily blocked. I am asking for some kind of censure against Essjay (I don't really care what kind), due to his flagrant violation of WP:AGF and his bad treatment of myself and others. As for Sam's advice, I was able to find another editor Essjay had mistreated, and posted the case above. Must I now find a third and fourth? What more can I do here? Is it simply the case that admins are allowed to abuse people in any way they like, against WP:AGF, without any responsibility for their actions, whatsoever? I guess I'm learning something here. The comments I've gotten so far have been along the line of: "Well, the nightstick wounds and policedog bite have healed nicely, and obviously you're out of jail or you wouldn't be here in court complaining, so what's your problem? Go home." Steve 17:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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I've just read your comment on Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Raphael1/Proposed_decision#Raphael1_is_disruptive and would like to comment on that:
How the hell are ya? :) I haven't heard from you in awhile. Wassup? :) -- Woohookitty (meow) 11:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#A list of fascists on en.wiki, FYI; see also the changes in Wikipedia:No personal attacks and the discussion. -jkb- 15:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi. You took previously part in discussions about the off-wiki NPA policy. There is a new quick opinion poll that is now posted on the Talk page there. Your input is appreciated! See
Thx, -jkb- 11:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, here's some updates today:
She left a message on my talk page. The part that stood out the most is the following:
You cannot even guess how many sockpuppets i've there at the moment.You cannot confirm everyone in case your relations.At least, i press money and hire a couple of people for this job and even make them admins.
She later left this message on an anon's talk page. And then after that this one, which is a bit ironic, because it's the same user she said "I AM NOT A JEW AND I AM %100 ORIGINAL TURKISH" to. Anyways, that's it for today. — Khoikhoi 00:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello there!
I’m writing regarding a RFA against my person, Messhermit. I have been absent from editing from Wikipedia for some time, due to Finals in College and for personal reasons (I needed to take a break, I don’t like lengthy discussions).
However, I found with the surprise that apparently the committee has reached a conclusion without giving me the opportunity to portray my side of the story. I tried to reach another of the parties involved in the arbitration, receiving a positive answer assuring me that the case and its outcome can wait until I finish my finals [1] .
I now humble ask a chance to expose my case and not being judged with only one side of the conflict portrayed. I believe that Wikipedia is a fair place to work and that all this can be settle without reaching extremes. Please, I’ll be waiting for an answer. Messhermit
P.D. As a side note, I have my evidence on Notepad. I will be posting it in a couple of days.
I think you made a mistake there, the remedy against me hasn't passed. -- ManiF 06:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
As you may have seen, I made some proposals on the Aucaman Workshop page. Could you give me some brief feedback if this is going to be considered and whether you think any of it has a chance of affecting the final outcome at this stage? Thanks, Lukas (T.| @) 07:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Could you check your e-mail, please? I've asked you a question about something I'd really like to know. Thanks, Bishonen | talk 19:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC).
In light of recent sockpuppeting by Rex071404 ( talk · contribs) a/k/a/ Merecat ( talk · contribs) to violate the permanent ban on his editing of John Kerry, I've requested the fourth and most recent 'Rex' RfAr be reopened and if appropriate, the remedies re-defined and re-applied. As a prior petitioner of that RfAr, I'm notifying you here. Thank you. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 23:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Dmcdevit. I'd like to inform you about another user,
Metb82 (
talk ·
contribs). He's the same guy who spammed the talk pages of 100 people to oppose my RfA. Anyways, today he left
this message on a user's talk page. What should I do? Should I respond to it? The user has a history of personal attacks, (such as
this and
this), he
vandalized my user page once, and I've caught him using open proxies, such as
59.144.164.185 (
talk ·
contribs) to disguise himself. And check his user page, because it doesn't get any better. —
Khoikhoi 05:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm taking this complaint pretty seriously, but I'll deal with it through a warning to Metb82 in the first instance [2]. I ask KhoiKhoi to notify either me or Dmcdevit if the attacks continue, and they will then be dealt with appropriately. -- Tony Sidaway 01:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Just because something has the word "anti" in it doesn't mean it is divisive. This deletion was roughly equivalent to deleting an "anti-racism" template. Please reconsider your deletion in that context. Zotel - the Stub Maker 13:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Over the last few months I have worked hard to raise a red flag about extremist groups using Wikipedia for propaganda purposes. I have now brought the issue to the attention of those at the very highest levels within the Wikipedia community.
Now that I have gone through all of Wikipedia's bureaucratic hoops, what steps are being taken to correct the problem? How are policies being changed to prevent advocacy groups from using Wikipedia to disseminate propaganda?
There is widespread agreement that "Societal attitudes towards homosexuality" is not an impartial article written by impartial people, but nobody cares enough to fix the problem. Is leaving the same group of editors in charge of the same article supposed to produce different results somehow? How long will it be before the article claims a correlation between natural disasters and Protestantism again? Now that this has been brought to the attention of the powers that be, what mechanism has been put into place to prevent that from happening again?
Can it be that nobody in the Wikipedia community, including ArbCom and Jimbo, cares about the integrity of Wikipedia? I have suggested several approaches to help prevent this kind of misuse of Wikipedia in the future. Is Wikipedia going to adopt these approaches, or will you continue to ignore the problem and discipline whistleblowers instead?
We all know that ArbCom knows how to give users the boot - they do it all the time - but who is going to actually fix the problem?
Lou franklin 15:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I just noticed your "wary about the "very knowledgeable"" statement on Marcosantezana's RFAr. It's my guess that this user is Marcos A. Antezana (a post-doc, or other non faculty researcher?) at the University of Chicago with a number of publications, including three in Journal of Molecular Evolution and others in Journal of Molecular Biology and Genetical Research. I don't think such information ought to, or will, change anyone's views or votes, but he does seem to have a level of knowledge of the topic consistent with this. Best Regards, Pete.Hurd 20:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Please look at this message left on my talkpage by User:Partha rathore. Can you block him? I have already complained on Admin's notice-board. Regards, ImpuMozhi 02:53, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I see you had a template deleting session a few days ago. The T1 deletion policy has always been divisive and inflammatory and has always caused strife (ah the irony!) and there are many who think it a very, very, very bad idea. I don't fully count myself as one of those but what I have made known in the past is my concern over the vague nature of the deletion policy. I see little improvement in this version. What is "divisive and inflammatory"? Dictionary.com defines it as "creating dissension or discord" and "arousing passion or strong emotion, especially anger, belligerence, or desire" for the two words respectively. Now I can see that what you have deleted fulfils the second criterion easily, but then so does inclusionism on Wikipedia and I don't see you deleting that user box or other similar ones. I would strongly contest that the userboxes are "creating dissension or discord". The dissension and discord is there already and the userboxes inform about the viewpoint of the person concerned. The Euro is controversial and gun laws are controversial so they will arouse passions, but better those who have those viewpoints, on whatever side, are known and have those views out in the open.
So we have templates that are certainly inflammatory but I would not say are divisive. What means that those templates in particular deserved to be deleted? Does't the Windows XP user template on my user page deserve deletion under your reasoning? Doesn't the Stargate watcher template on my user page deserve deletion under your reasoning? Both are the subject of heated discussions which could qualify for inflammatory and both would seem to be "divisive" using your interpretation of the term. Do you think they are? If not how can you justify the deletions you made? If so I suggest you delete far more templates than you did. David Newton 15:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I was disgusted, but not terribly surprised, to see that six members of the Arbitration Committee -- Dmcdevit, Fred Bauder, JamesF/James D. Forrester, Sean Barrett/The Epopt, Charles Matthews and Jayjg -- condone hate speech and hateful epithets directed at the mentally disabled, and consider condemnation of that hate speech to be unacceptable behavior on Wikipedia -- behavior, in fact, so unacceptable that they say they find it a compelling reason to punish me.
I was a bit more surprised when an earlier form of this letter (differing only in describing the status of the pending arbitration, aside from this paragraph) was banned without explantion from the Wikipedia mailing list where such topics could supposedly be discussed. But I was appalled when discussions on that list, regarding a named editor, turned to open derision of the editor's supposed emotional/mental impairments, and that one Arbitration Committee member participated in the abuse.
As someone who has been involved for more than thirty years, professionally and nonprofessionally, in attempting to protect and to advance the rights of the mentally disabled, and as someone who for many years has served, and continues to serve as a guardian for such disabled members of my community. I find the use of such epithets grossly offensive; they are clearly inconsistent with Wikipedia's supposed commitment to civility. They form no part of civil discourse in any circumstances. They are particularly deserving of condemnation because they are directed toward, in very real terms attack, and have the greatest tendency to injure, a class of people who are less able, sometimes unable, to defend themselves, to resist the impact, or to respond on equal terms. [And, as a note to the politically correct, it is for that reason that I will not use the abominable term "mentally challenged," because it denies (sometimes grossly minimizes) the imbalances of social power that inhere in the relationships between the mentally disabled and the "unchallenged" elements of any community.]
It should be no secret, no obscure facet of social fabric, that the mentally disabled, particularly the mentally retarded, are at greater risk than almost any other segment of a society. More likely to be the victims of physical attacks. More likely to be neglected by governments, particularly when their needs are greatest. In the relatively rare instances when they have substantial assets, they are more likely to have their assets stolen, particularly at the hands of those actors on whom a government has conferred power over them. They are more likely to be degraded and exploited by industries which purport to protect them and to serve their interests. More like to be the victims of sexual assaults, particularly of organized, group sexual assaults.
The casual use of such hateful epithets does not only harm the individuals it targets. It causes pain, often great pain to many others. It regularly inflicts pain on those with brothers and sisters, with parents, with children, with friends, with acquaintances, even with clients, who are abused and dehumanized by such behavior. It regularly inflicts pain on so many of those who deal, day by day, with lesser mental and emotional impairments, whether they choose to acknowledge those impairments, publicly or privately, or not.
I am quite proud that a self-styled community which apparently condones such behavior and condemns opposition to it finds me such a danger to it and its values that it is preparing to forcibly separate me from it. Nothing I have contributed to this curious place makes me more proud, and I doubt anything else could.
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Thank you very much for your notice; however, civility/uncivility does not contribute in any way to my 'case', for a lot of the admins have made their decision already, and have rejected the consensus.-- Constanz - Talk 06:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello. Being you one of the Arbitrators involved in the ArbCom case Messhermit, I would like to approach you about two inquiries I have.
I have to protest these baseless accusations:
A separate topic is presented.
Finally:
Since you've been involved in attempts to deal with AlexPU lately, you may be interested in this post at WP:AN/I. The highly offensive troll seem to have an issue with those who disagree with him and perpetually harasses his opponents and defies all calls to cool off. -- Ghirla -трёп- 07:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
This one is still active, it appears. Maybe I should screw up Transvestic fetishism. Thanks for your help. e WBardwin 08:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Could you have a look at the struck out line near the bottom at this page and click on the linked word "here". How could this happen?. How do I destroy it? Cheers. Moriori 10:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I wrote you yesterday regarding the ArbCom case Messhermit. Anyway, I approach you again today about this matter. Please see this request of mine here if you will. Could you tell me what can I do about it, or to whom should I address this request? Thank you again. Andrés C. 19:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow -- a lot of work, and on my behalf. A knight in shining armor. This was a particularly bad sequence of blocks. As a bypass attempt, I changed my AOL call up numbers, so I might have been assigned a new set of IP's as well. But, between us, I was able to revert my first vandal in the last 20 hours or so and do a little writing. I've disabled the template. Thanks for your help. WBardwin 08:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
The deletion of the template regarding the separation of church and state was not cool. Especially since you arbitarily did it with no notice. It's bullshit. Next time at least have the decency to warn people beforehand - heck why not actually let people vote on it instead of enforcing your own viewpoint on everyone. Dankru 10:37, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
WTF gives you the right to just delete templates like {{ User Pro Concealed Carry}}?! Just because you're on ArbCom doesn't mean you get to go all Deletionist on us. People put effort into userboxen because we like them. They're here to stay. Hooray for Unilateralism, I guess. E. Sn0 =31337= 14:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Please read the discussions here [5] and here [6] before finishing off Terryeo's RfA. A number of us are hoping the arbitrators will vote on banning Terryeo from Scientology-related talk pages as well. Thank you. BTfromLA 17:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello again. Recently a friend of mine informed me about a user's comments on the Turkish Wikipedia about how he is "proud to be an anti-Semite". His name is Ruzgar ( talk · contribs). Today he left a note on my talk page:
[7] Yes I have write that. I am proud to being this "anti-seminist".
In his short history here on the English Wikipedia, he has pretty much done nothing but repeatedly delete sourced material ( [8] [9] [10], and POV-pushing, including Holocaust denial ( [11] [12]). Any idea what I should do about this? As a Jew, I'm quite frankly afraid to warn this guy about personal attacks. Thank you. — Khoikhoi 03:40, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Dmcdevit, and thank you for your nomination, and kind comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again! + + Lar: t/ c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't it be protected or semiprotected, since it's on the main page? -- M1ss1ontom a rs2k4 ( T | C | @) 00:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
If Arbcom grants checkUser and Oversight, is there therefore anyway to ask for Oversight? How did they choose the current usergroup member? Was it off-site? Thanks. Voice-of-All Talk 09:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I would like you to take a look at the removal by Jayjg of a section in the article. [13] This section was first inserted in mid April, when the speech was widely reported internationally. Jayjg removed it not only without suggesting an alternative, but did not make any mention of the fact that he had removed it in the discussion section. That major change was first discussed after two reversions by other people when I brought it up in the discussion section. I restored it to the state it had existed for six weeks pending a compromise being reached in discussion but it was reverted by a different user. I removed all quotations except one so that the section fit better with the others. Jayjg reverted that also. [14] I find this behavior offensive from anyone, especially an arbcom member. TopRank 16:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
-- Cactus.man ✍ 11:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
For your ArbCom work and ability to hold through tough situations, I award you this Barnstar of ArbCom General Ass-Kicking. Thank you for perfoming this task with the great skill you do. Yours, Snoutwood (talk) 21:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, for your information I am setting up a request for mediation with Tony on his user abuse. See User:Georgewilliamherbert/TSMed. If you have any comments or would like to join the mediation, please feel free to do so. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert 19:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I provided diffs to edit war. I have also provided links to support prior edit war and listed editors who support my side of the argument (many guys) and his side (one guy). Danny Pi 00:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to mention that you had voted to reject my arbcom request pending those diffs that I have now provided. I'd appreciate if you reviewed the updated proposal. I realize you guys are really busy. Thanks! Danny Pi 00:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there a reason the ArbCom is not touching any pages other than the proposed decision? -- SPUI ( T - C) 01:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
A few weeks back I suggested a lot more findings of fact for the Deathrocker/Leyasu arbitration case. It seemed that only Fred looked at those, and he didn't put any of them on the proposed decision page. Could you look those over? Leyasu was trying to use the "The ArbCom didn't find this as fact" argument with me once when I went over some things from the last case with him, and I want to make sure that the ArbCom has a formal record that certain things have happened in the Leyasu/Deathrocker dispute. I really don't think that the points on the proposed decision page right now are enough. (I may be posting some more proposed findings of fact later today.)
Also, Leyasu has been blatantly evading blocks this month through anons and sockpuppets that he has been using for edit warring. Deathrocker posted some additional evidence about that on the Evidence page, and Tony Sidaway banned Leyasu from heavy metal articles (most of Leyasu's edits have been to those articles). I've proposed some additional remedies for both Leyasu and Deathrocker as a result of that, so I'd like you to look at those too and add whichever ones you think are good to the proposed decision page.
I noticed you were voting on the proposed decisions in this case pretty fast, so I thought I'd ask you. -- Idont Havaname ( Talk) 19:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
If I am to be included in any probationary measures, I request that you explain what, if any, evidence has been presented against me that influenced your decision to include me. Even after I made a specific request for evidence of any bad acts I've committed, [15] the only time I've even mentioned on the Evidence or Workshop pages is one instance in which I characterized SPUI's page moves as being akin to vandalism, [16] a characterization I subsequently retracted after reviewing the relevant policy. [17] Other than that, no one has presented any evidence against me at all.
My position is that I have responded to SPUI's page moves every time by seeking advice and assistance at WP:AN/I, rather than by reflexively warring with him; have only reverted SPUI's moves on a small number of occasions after being confronted with clear and convincing evidence of overwhelming administrator indifference to any such moves; and that I stopped moving pages entirely after an admin asked me to disengage from the move war as a unilateral gesture of conciliation. I can provide diffs to prove all of these things on request. — phh ( t/ c) 20:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions! + + Lar: t/ c 01:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Only one question. If the 6 April article I rewrote with Midgley [36] was a NPOV correction of the previous pov incarnation (in which Midgley, not I, removed the tag), how can this be considered "Tendentious editing by Cesar Tort [...]" in Proposed decision? [37]. — Cesar Tort 15:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
From one Portlander to another. Do you have plans to attend OSCON next month? (Or will you even be in Oregon over the summer break?) I am in the process of organizing a BOF on Wikipedia for that, & would like to invite you to it. (And I've learned that you don't need to pay money to attend BOFs, so that shouldn't be a problem.) -- llywrch 15:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Dmcdevit, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you explain, I've been helping this user out with policy and such... I login and find that the article was speedy deleted and the user indef blocked? Crazynas 07:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. RFC doesn't work too well when one has been summarily blocked. I am asking for some kind of censure against Essjay (I don't really care what kind), due to his flagrant violation of WP:AGF and his bad treatment of myself and others. As for Sam's advice, I was able to find another editor Essjay had mistreated, and posted the case above. Must I now find a third and fourth? What more can I do here? Is it simply the case that admins are allowed to abuse people in any way they like, against WP:AGF, without any responsibility for their actions, whatsoever? I guess I'm learning something here. The comments I've gotten so far have been along the line of: "Well, the nightstick wounds and policedog bite have healed nicely, and obviously you're out of jail or you wouldn't be here in court complaining, so what's your problem? Go home." Steve 17:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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I've just read your comment on Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Raphael1/Proposed_decision#Raphael1_is_disruptive and would like to comment on that: