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Thanks to everyone's dedicated efforts to the GA Sweeps process, a total of 290 articles were swept in June! Last month was our second most successful month in reviewing articles (after May). We are currently over 70% done with Sweeps, with just under 800 articles left to review. With nearly 50 members, that averages out to about 15 articles per person. If each member reviews an article every other day this month (or several!), we'll be completely finished. This may sound difficult, but if everyone completes their reviews, Sweeps would be completed in less than two years when we first started (with only four members!). With the conclusion of Sweeps, each editor could spend more time writing GAs, reviewing at the backlogged GAN, or focusing on other GARs. Again, I want to thank you for using your time to ensure the quality of the older GAs. Feel free to recruit other editors who have reviewed GANs in the past and might be interested in the process. The more editors, the less the workload, and hopefully the faster this will be completed. If you have any questions about reviews or the process let me know and I'll be happy to get back to you. Again, thank you for taking the time to help with the process, I appreciate your efforts! --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 17:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi David,
Could you please make your addition to this peer review? Its been three days since you said you were going to write a review, and I want to archive the current peer review and begin a GAN. Apologies if you were about to add your review. Thanks. -- Sherif9282 ( talk) 15:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I'm posting here to request that you refrain from such edits as this. It is the consensus among more and more Wikipedians that applying labels such as "trolling", even in cases where they are accurate, tends to increase the heat, add fuel to fires, and distract from the project of encyclopedia-building, or in this case, approving an admin candidate. Regarding "oppose" votes in RFAs, please consider what is written at WP:TYFYV. If you want to discuss this, I'm certainly willing to do that. Just let me know. Thanks. - GTBacchus( talk) 17:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I figure that you might have an answer for two VG terms: "action-adventure game" and "top-down perspective". Would they need to use endashes or are they correct as they are hyphenated, according to WP:ENDASH? MuZemike 04:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Please note Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing has been repurposed from the standard RFC format it was using into a strraw poll format. Please re-visit the RFC to ensure that your previous endorsement(s) are represented in the various proposals and endorse accordingly.
It looks like the guy who was making those incoherent edits is back. May be trying to sock-puppet with a different IP. Peptuck ( talk) 03:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 02:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I've created two initial pages for the ACPD:
Please add them to your watchlist, stop by, and so forth. The latter page has a couple of logistical issues that we should discuss sooner rather than later, so I'd appreciate if you could find some time to comment on them.
Thanks! Kirill [talk] [pf] 13:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
The second RfC on sourcing for Eurovision articles has now being running for several weeks, you can view it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#RfC on reliable sources for Eurovision articles. In order to help gauge the spread of opinion and draw conclusions from this discussion a straw poll has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Straw poll. All project members are encouraged to read the RfC thoroughly and then cast their votes as they see fit. Rationales are still encouraged in the main discussion area above the poll, and participants can add appropriate new sources or options to the poll as they wish. Camaron · Christopher · talk 20:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
More or less copying from Casliber's user talk: you weren't quite the first person at the RfC talk to suggest that jealousy motivated the initiative's opposition. Yet you did so under color of authority, which places those of us who have sincere wikiphilosophical qualms at a disadvantage. In response, I have posted an invitation which for clarity am repeating here: feel free to salt this page. Any person who would tank a good idea simply because they weren't invited into a position of power is someone who shouldn't be entrusted with administrative tools. Durova 275 02:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) You gained a seat in an election where the community wanted change. It wanted a change away from the direction the Committee had taken in 2008 overstepping its mandate. Yet this year's Committee has been more aggressive than last year's about expanding its mandate. That carries overriding importance.
By analogy: if a neighbor wants to borrow my laptop computer I may say yes. But if I come home one day to find him standing at the desk putting my laptop into a bag the answer of course is no. If he sets it down promptly and has a very good explanation then perhaps he can borrow it again on other terms. That's not likely but it's possible. If he picks up my television instead and accuses me of being uncooperative when I object, then neighborliness breaks down very quickly.
By two to one, the community is asking you to set down that laptop computer. That ratio is even more lopsided if you discount the opinions of the people who have already accepted appointments. The longer this continues the greater the odds of the scenario you seem to be trying to prevent: one where a basically worthwhile idea fails because of the way it was attempted. Durova 277 05:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Thought I'd drop by and say hello. I've added your NFCC concerns to the problems section - perhaps you could expand the problem for the clueless in that area? -- Joopercoopers ( talk) 15:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Some person emailed me and accused me of being Curt Sachs. I was going to point out that he died in 1959, but I rather relish the idea of being an undead Wikipedia editor. -- Laser brain (talk) 21:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
After exhausting the DotA conversation, it seems that they're trying to modify/remove any comments that they dislike—including those from other talk pages [1]—therefore creating holes in conversations. What can be done about their disruptive behaviour? — LOL T/ C 00:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you care or are already aware, but I'd like to at least tell you that I posted at WP:AN/I#Talk page disruption by dynamic IPs. Take care. — LOL T/ C 06:04, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I'm back from my trip. For the films you identified, I included resources from the British Film Institute's index and the Film Literature Index on their articles' talk pages. There was no FLI for Nemesis; FLI may not be that new. Also, I searched FLI by searching for the title under the "production title" option, but there may be some items that do not cover the right film. I was a little surprised to see that these articles were so underdeveloped; I expected there to be a bit more since there is a fan base. I reckon they're happy with Memory Alpha, huh? Let me know if you want me to look for academic resources; I can search JSTOR and a few other databases for them. Wasn't sure if anything you've found covered multiple films or just each one whose article you've completed. Happy editing! — Erik ( talk • contrib) 16:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edit here without any reason/edit summary? Aside from removing the name of Khan's ship, you also returned wrong information into the article. Khan and his crew were not exiled. If you watch TOS:Space Seed, Spock tells Kirk that there were 80-90 of Khan's men that were unaccounted for after they lost. They were not captured, ergo, they could not have been exiled. Please explain. Also, it's always helpful when reverting an edit to leave a reason behind. -- Despayre (talk) 16:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I just re-watched the episode, at 10:45 into Space Seed, Spock explains why it would be completely illogical to assume these people were exiled in this ship
Spock: "If you're suggesting this was a penal deportation vessel, you've arrived at a totally illogical conclusion."
Kirk: "Oh?"
Spock: "Your earth was on the birth of a dark ages, whole populations were being bombed out of existence. A group of criminals could've been dealt with far more efficiently than wasting one of their most advanced spaceships"
Here's a quote from Space Seed (20:02 mins in) where he and Kirk are discussing who Khan is:
Spock: "By my estimate there were some eighty and ninety of these young supermen unaccounted for when they were finally defeated."
Kirk: "That fact is not in the history texts."
Spock: "Would you reveal to war-weary populations that some 80 Napoleons might still be alive?"
Further quote, from Space Seed, from an exchange between Kirk and Khan (at 25:57) indicating that Khan left on his own. Khan doesn't deny he fled, only denies he was afraid:
Kirk: "You fled. Why? Were you afraid?"
Khan: "I've never been afraid."
Kirk: "But you left at the very time mankind needed courage."
Khan: "We offered the world order!"
Kirk: "We?"
After brushing up on all that, I'm more convinced your revert was in error. Please self-revert. Khan was exiled by Kirk, not by earth of the 1990's. Thanks. -- Despayre (talk) 17:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why you keep reverting my researched, evidence provided, edits, but leaving an edit summary of "better sources than The Numbers say $45" without providing those sources, is not very useful (the OC Article is not available in their archives). Please show your "better sources" and explain why they are better. A number like 45 million needs to be backed up with a decent reference or two. I'm even ok with "~$45 million" if necessary, which is probably more accurate, since I doubt they spent 45 million, down the the penny. I've left several notes for you on the various pages we're both looking at, but so far, even though I've seen from your activity you are around, you have yet to answer me. I'm starting to wonder if you are familiar with WP:OWN. Thanks for any input you can provide here that will help clear things up. -- Despayre (talk) 01:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
If you had responded in a timely manor to any of the comments I'd previously left on the article talkpages, I would not have used your talkpage at all. Since it seemed you were ignoring those talk pages, I thought I would leave a note on your page as well. And oh look! You saw my notes and responded. Great, very useful. I guess that's what talkpages are for, talking. Also, I don't know what you percieved as a threat, was it the reference to the Wikipedia policy WP:OWN? I can assure you there was no threat intended, I was merely bringing it to your attention, as your brusque editing behaviour seemed to have that kind of nature to it. Also, I'm fairly certain the degrees in History hanging on my wall would tend to indicate that I am fully aware of how to find sources when I need to. I would appreciate it if you did not talk down to me, it isn't very helpful, or in much of a Wikipedia spirit of cooperation. Thanks. -- Despayre (talk) 03:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I figure it's been around a week or thereabouts since you told me to remind you about searching for development information for Moto Racer Advance. So, not to bother you, but... :-) -- Nomader ( Talk) 08:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, it's Tezkag72 (You may remember me from Shadow the Hedgehog.) Anyway, I have a request. If you have time, can you give some comments on the peer review of Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy? Thanks. Tezkag72 ( talk) 22:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Please see the thread at Wikipedia talk:Advisory Council on Project Development/Forum#"The forum is for members discussion only", which concerns your reverts to the "Forum" page. Will Beback talk 00:31, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
The article Halo (megastructure) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Halo (megastructure) for things needed to be addressed. Malinaccier ( talk) 05:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi David, I think we've been talking slightly at cross purposes due to perhaps one of those transatlantic furniture differences. When you say "table membership issues" for now - I think you are saying we'll "shelve them for now". When I think about "tabling motions" -I think about tabulating them on an agenda for discussion - I'm pretty sure this isn't what you mean? -- Joopercoopers ( talk) 12:43, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, could you check to make sure your issuse have been resolved? Dabomb87 ( talk) 18:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
The 'reception' argue starter is not vandalizing the page, as another IP is..just wanted to bring that to your opinion. 124.185.76.89 ( talk) 23:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I think I've resolved all of your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Samus Aran/archive1. If you have any follow-up comments, please post them at Wikipedia:Peer review/Samus Aran/archive2, thanks. Also, I can't really find much more to add to Reception; Samus isn't nearly as popular as Master Chief. Gary King ( talk) 21:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi David,
Last week, you left some comments at the above FAC for Herrerasaurus. I have, I believe, dealt with most of your observations, setting a {{-}} template in place after the final image in the article, and expanding the Description section slightly so that the other image wouldn't push into the next section (does it show up correctly now in your browser?). Several people also worked on the prose and flow, per your request. The last item was your observation that the article came to an abrupt end; I made a suggestion on how that might possibly be improved, but haven't received the go-ahead from you. Can you drop by the FAC page and possibly weigh in on whether it's a good idea or not? Best, Firsfron of Ronchester 21:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Eh, how is it superior? I thought it'd be better to consolidate our Fair Use images (ie: use as few as possibly as many different ways as we can) than to have two images that are seconds apart. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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I was wondering if you could please do a peer review on Times Square> Thanks :D Irunongames • play 02:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello, could you please rename Rashad Sadyghov article to Rashad Sadygov as his surname in english goes as "Sadygov" not Sadyghov.-- NovaSkola ( talk) 02:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey David, GiB was Peer Reviewing The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay and said that this doesn't complies with NFCC and wanted a second opinion and suggested you. You can also talk to Vantine about the picture too since he uploaded it. GamerPro64 ( talk) 05:07, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone's dedicated efforts to the GA Sweeps process, a total of 215 articles were swept in July! We are currently nearly 80% done with Sweeps, with under 600 articles left to review. With 50 members, that averages out to about 12 articles per person. Once the remaining articles drop to 100, I'll help in reviewing the last articles (I'm currently taking a break). If each member reviews an article every other day this month (or several!), we'll be completely finished. Again, I want to thank you for using your time to ensure the quality of the older GAs. Feel free to recruit other editors who have reviewed GANs in the past and might be interested in the process. The more editors, the less the workload, and hopefully the faster this will be completed. If you have any questions about reviews or the process let me know and I'll be happy to get back to you. Again, thank you for taking the time to help with the process, I appreciate your efforts! --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 19:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Lystrosaurus is at FAC - needs some buffing though. I noted the authority was Cope - anything in the bone wars about this beastie? weird.... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 13:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 03:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
How dare you sully my first RFA nom with your "humor". -- Andy Walsh (talk) 14:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Fuchs, I don't think anyone can accuse me of being a Slim-o-phile, but she raised a legitimate concern at WT:FAC, and she did so politely, so lighten up :))) SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Fuchs, Slim has just as much right to state her complaint about alt-text as you do have to state your reasons to keep it in. The name calling and incivility is not called for. Naluboutes, Nalubotes Aeria gloris, Aeria gloris 17:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Your conduct is now the subject of a report at WP:ANI. -- Philcha ( talk) 16:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to be too repetitive, as I already said this and you deleted, but someone insisted I take appropriate admin actions in response to the provocations and discussions on ANI, so here goes. This will be followed by further actions re others behavior.
Your earlier comments to SlimVirgin on the FAC talk page were uncivil and bordered on personal attacks. You know that we expect better of administrators; everyone has to abide by WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. In my judgement you have stated that you understand that your actions were controversial and you've said you're stepping away from that thread and conversations with SlimVirgin - those are both positive steps and I encourage you to do that.
Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 00:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
David, whatever your thoughts and feelings, your language was over the top. The whole ANI thing could have been nipped early on if you had formally apologised to Slim Virgin and struck through the offending text.
I ask that you consider doing this now. Everyone would think highly of you if you did. Tony (talk) 03:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 2, No. 4 — 2nd Quarter, 2009
Previous issue |
Next issue
Project At a Glance
As of Q2
2009, the project has:
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|
Content
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Thanks to everyone's dedicated efforts to the GA Sweeps process, a total of 290 articles were swept in June! Last month was our second most successful month in reviewing articles (after May). We are currently over 70% done with Sweeps, with just under 800 articles left to review. With nearly 50 members, that averages out to about 15 articles per person. If each member reviews an article every other day this month (or several!), we'll be completely finished. This may sound difficult, but if everyone completes their reviews, Sweeps would be completed in less than two years when we first started (with only four members!). With the conclusion of Sweeps, each editor could spend more time writing GAs, reviewing at the backlogged GAN, or focusing on other GARs. Again, I want to thank you for using your time to ensure the quality of the older GAs. Feel free to recruit other editors who have reviewed GANs in the past and might be interested in the process. The more editors, the less the workload, and hopefully the faster this will be completed. If you have any questions about reviews or the process let me know and I'll be happy to get back to you. Again, thank you for taking the time to help with the process, I appreciate your efforts! --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 17:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi David,
Could you please make your addition to this peer review? Its been three days since you said you were going to write a review, and I want to archive the current peer review and begin a GAN. Apologies if you were about to add your review. Thanks. -- Sherif9282 ( talk) 15:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I'm posting here to request that you refrain from such edits as this. It is the consensus among more and more Wikipedians that applying labels such as "trolling", even in cases where they are accurate, tends to increase the heat, add fuel to fires, and distract from the project of encyclopedia-building, or in this case, approving an admin candidate. Regarding "oppose" votes in RFAs, please consider what is written at WP:TYFYV. If you want to discuss this, I'm certainly willing to do that. Just let me know. Thanks. - GTBacchus( talk) 17:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I figure that you might have an answer for two VG terms: "action-adventure game" and "top-down perspective". Would they need to use endashes or are they correct as they are hyphenated, according to WP:ENDASH? MuZemike 04:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Please note Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing has been repurposed from the standard RFC format it was using into a strraw poll format. Please re-visit the RFC to ensure that your previous endorsement(s) are represented in the various proposals and endorse accordingly.
It looks like the guy who was making those incoherent edits is back. May be trying to sock-puppet with a different IP. Peptuck ( talk) 03:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Delivered by SoxBot ( talk) at 02:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I've created two initial pages for the ACPD:
Please add them to your watchlist, stop by, and so forth. The latter page has a couple of logistical issues that we should discuss sooner rather than later, so I'd appreciate if you could find some time to comment on them.
Thanks! Kirill [talk] [pf] 13:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
The second RfC on sourcing for Eurovision articles has now being running for several weeks, you can view it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#RfC on reliable sources for Eurovision articles. In order to help gauge the spread of opinion and draw conclusions from this discussion a straw poll has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Straw poll. All project members are encouraged to read the RfC thoroughly and then cast their votes as they see fit. Rationales are still encouraged in the main discussion area above the poll, and participants can add appropriate new sources or options to the poll as they wish. Camaron · Christopher · talk 20:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
More or less copying from Casliber's user talk: you weren't quite the first person at the RfC talk to suggest that jealousy motivated the initiative's opposition. Yet you did so under color of authority, which places those of us who have sincere wikiphilosophical qualms at a disadvantage. In response, I have posted an invitation which for clarity am repeating here: feel free to salt this page. Any person who would tank a good idea simply because they weren't invited into a position of power is someone who shouldn't be entrusted with administrative tools. Durova 275 02:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) You gained a seat in an election where the community wanted change. It wanted a change away from the direction the Committee had taken in 2008 overstepping its mandate. Yet this year's Committee has been more aggressive than last year's about expanding its mandate. That carries overriding importance.
By analogy: if a neighbor wants to borrow my laptop computer I may say yes. But if I come home one day to find him standing at the desk putting my laptop into a bag the answer of course is no. If he sets it down promptly and has a very good explanation then perhaps he can borrow it again on other terms. That's not likely but it's possible. If he picks up my television instead and accuses me of being uncooperative when I object, then neighborliness breaks down very quickly.
By two to one, the community is asking you to set down that laptop computer. That ratio is even more lopsided if you discount the opinions of the people who have already accepted appointments. The longer this continues the greater the odds of the scenario you seem to be trying to prevent: one where a basically worthwhile idea fails because of the way it was attempted. Durova 277 05:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Thought I'd drop by and say hello. I've added your NFCC concerns to the problems section - perhaps you could expand the problem for the clueless in that area? -- Joopercoopers ( talk) 15:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Some person emailed me and accused me of being Curt Sachs. I was going to point out that he died in 1959, but I rather relish the idea of being an undead Wikipedia editor. -- Laser brain (talk) 21:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
After exhausting the DotA conversation, it seems that they're trying to modify/remove any comments that they dislike—including those from other talk pages [1]—therefore creating holes in conversations. What can be done about their disruptive behaviour? — LOL T/ C 00:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you care or are already aware, but I'd like to at least tell you that I posted at WP:AN/I#Talk page disruption by dynamic IPs. Take care. — LOL T/ C 06:04, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I'm back from my trip. For the films you identified, I included resources from the British Film Institute's index and the Film Literature Index on their articles' talk pages. There was no FLI for Nemesis; FLI may not be that new. Also, I searched FLI by searching for the title under the "production title" option, but there may be some items that do not cover the right film. I was a little surprised to see that these articles were so underdeveloped; I expected there to be a bit more since there is a fan base. I reckon they're happy with Memory Alpha, huh? Let me know if you want me to look for academic resources; I can search JSTOR and a few other databases for them. Wasn't sure if anything you've found covered multiple films or just each one whose article you've completed. Happy editing! — Erik ( talk • contrib) 16:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edit here without any reason/edit summary? Aside from removing the name of Khan's ship, you also returned wrong information into the article. Khan and his crew were not exiled. If you watch TOS:Space Seed, Spock tells Kirk that there were 80-90 of Khan's men that were unaccounted for after they lost. They were not captured, ergo, they could not have been exiled. Please explain. Also, it's always helpful when reverting an edit to leave a reason behind. -- Despayre (talk) 16:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I just re-watched the episode, at 10:45 into Space Seed, Spock explains why it would be completely illogical to assume these people were exiled in this ship
Spock: "If you're suggesting this was a penal deportation vessel, you've arrived at a totally illogical conclusion."
Kirk: "Oh?"
Spock: "Your earth was on the birth of a dark ages, whole populations were being bombed out of existence. A group of criminals could've been dealt with far more efficiently than wasting one of their most advanced spaceships"
Here's a quote from Space Seed (20:02 mins in) where he and Kirk are discussing who Khan is:
Spock: "By my estimate there were some eighty and ninety of these young supermen unaccounted for when they were finally defeated."
Kirk: "That fact is not in the history texts."
Spock: "Would you reveal to war-weary populations that some 80 Napoleons might still be alive?"
Further quote, from Space Seed, from an exchange between Kirk and Khan (at 25:57) indicating that Khan left on his own. Khan doesn't deny he fled, only denies he was afraid:
Kirk: "You fled. Why? Were you afraid?"
Khan: "I've never been afraid."
Kirk: "But you left at the very time mankind needed courage."
Khan: "We offered the world order!"
Kirk: "We?"
After brushing up on all that, I'm more convinced your revert was in error. Please self-revert. Khan was exiled by Kirk, not by earth of the 1990's. Thanks. -- Despayre (talk) 17:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why you keep reverting my researched, evidence provided, edits, but leaving an edit summary of "better sources than The Numbers say $45" without providing those sources, is not very useful (the OC Article is not available in their archives). Please show your "better sources" and explain why they are better. A number like 45 million needs to be backed up with a decent reference or two. I'm even ok with "~$45 million" if necessary, which is probably more accurate, since I doubt they spent 45 million, down the the penny. I've left several notes for you on the various pages we're both looking at, but so far, even though I've seen from your activity you are around, you have yet to answer me. I'm starting to wonder if you are familiar with WP:OWN. Thanks for any input you can provide here that will help clear things up. -- Despayre (talk) 01:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
If you had responded in a timely manor to any of the comments I'd previously left on the article talkpages, I would not have used your talkpage at all. Since it seemed you were ignoring those talk pages, I thought I would leave a note on your page as well. And oh look! You saw my notes and responded. Great, very useful. I guess that's what talkpages are for, talking. Also, I don't know what you percieved as a threat, was it the reference to the Wikipedia policy WP:OWN? I can assure you there was no threat intended, I was merely bringing it to your attention, as your brusque editing behaviour seemed to have that kind of nature to it. Also, I'm fairly certain the degrees in History hanging on my wall would tend to indicate that I am fully aware of how to find sources when I need to. I would appreciate it if you did not talk down to me, it isn't very helpful, or in much of a Wikipedia spirit of cooperation. Thanks. -- Despayre (talk) 03:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I figure it's been around a week or thereabouts since you told me to remind you about searching for development information for Moto Racer Advance. So, not to bother you, but... :-) -- Nomader ( Talk) 08:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, it's Tezkag72 (You may remember me from Shadow the Hedgehog.) Anyway, I have a request. If you have time, can you give some comments on the peer review of Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy? Thanks. Tezkag72 ( talk) 22:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Please see the thread at Wikipedia talk:Advisory Council on Project Development/Forum#"The forum is for members discussion only", which concerns your reverts to the "Forum" page. Will Beback talk 00:31, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
The article Halo (megastructure) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Halo (megastructure) for things needed to be addressed. Malinaccier ( talk) 05:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi David, I think we've been talking slightly at cross purposes due to perhaps one of those transatlantic furniture differences. When you say "table membership issues" for now - I think you are saying we'll "shelve them for now". When I think about "tabling motions" -I think about tabulating them on an agenda for discussion - I'm pretty sure this isn't what you mean? -- Joopercoopers ( talk) 12:43, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, could you check to make sure your issuse have been resolved? Dabomb87 ( talk) 18:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
The 'reception' argue starter is not vandalizing the page, as another IP is..just wanted to bring that to your opinion. 124.185.76.89 ( talk) 23:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I think I've resolved all of your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Samus Aran/archive1. If you have any follow-up comments, please post them at Wikipedia:Peer review/Samus Aran/archive2, thanks. Also, I can't really find much more to add to Reception; Samus isn't nearly as popular as Master Chief. Gary King ( talk) 21:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi David,
Last week, you left some comments at the above FAC for Herrerasaurus. I have, I believe, dealt with most of your observations, setting a {{-}} template in place after the final image in the article, and expanding the Description section slightly so that the other image wouldn't push into the next section (does it show up correctly now in your browser?). Several people also worked on the prose and flow, per your request. The last item was your observation that the article came to an abrupt end; I made a suggestion on how that might possibly be improved, but haven't received the go-ahead from you. Can you drop by the FAC page and possibly weigh in on whether it's a good idea or not? Best, Firsfron of Ronchester 21:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Eh, how is it superior? I thought it'd be better to consolidate our Fair Use images (ie: use as few as possibly as many different ways as we can) than to have two images that are seconds apart. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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I was wondering if you could please do a peer review on Times Square> Thanks :D Irunongames • play 02:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello, could you please rename Rashad Sadyghov article to Rashad Sadygov as his surname in english goes as "Sadygov" not Sadyghov.-- NovaSkola ( talk) 02:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey David, GiB was Peer Reviewing The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay and said that this doesn't complies with NFCC and wanted a second opinion and suggested you. You can also talk to Vantine about the picture too since he uploaded it. GamerPro64 ( talk) 05:07, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
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Lystrosaurus is at FAC - needs some buffing though. I noted the authority was Cope - anything in the bone wars about this beastie? weird.... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 13:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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How dare you sully my first RFA nom with your "humor". -- Andy Walsh (talk) 14:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Fuchs, I don't think anyone can accuse me of being a Slim-o-phile, but she raised a legitimate concern at WT:FAC, and she did so politely, so lighten up :))) SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Fuchs, Slim has just as much right to state her complaint about alt-text as you do have to state your reasons to keep it in. The name calling and incivility is not called for. Naluboutes, Nalubotes Aeria gloris, Aeria gloris 17:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Your conduct is now the subject of a report at WP:ANI. -- Philcha ( talk) 16:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to be too repetitive, as I already said this and you deleted, but someone insisted I take appropriate admin actions in response to the provocations and discussions on ANI, so here goes. This will be followed by further actions re others behavior.
Your earlier comments to SlimVirgin on the FAC talk page were uncivil and bordered on personal attacks. You know that we expect better of administrators; everyone has to abide by WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. In my judgement you have stated that you understand that your actions were controversial and you've said you're stepping away from that thread and conversations with SlimVirgin - those are both positive steps and I encourage you to do that.
Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 00:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
David, whatever your thoughts and feelings, your language was over the top. The whole ANI thing could have been nipped early on if you had formally apologised to Slim Virgin and struck through the offending text.
I ask that you consider doing this now. Everyone would think highly of you if you did. Tony (talk) 03:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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