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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pyrates Royale is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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> The question I was asking in reference to Peter Paul and Mary was whether undiscovered music by them would get the same media attention as undiscovered music by the Beatles or Michael Jackson.
> The same question could be asked of Woodie Guthrie. Would a new Woodie Guthrie album generate even a hundredth of the press attention as a new Rolling Stones album?
> But the larger question is why do the Wikipedia guidelines give greater weight to a an online local newspaper with a readership of under 1000 than to a YouTube channel, with a worldwide audience, and over 10,000 views?
> And the Whiskey Bards are not simply limited to their YouTube audience. Their music is available on the subscription music service Spotify.com. Spotify has made national news twice recently, first when Taylor Swift pulled her music from their site, and again when the Beatles music became available on Spotify for the first time. Spotify has apps available for iOS, Android, Vizio, Samsung, and Roku. They are certainly a well-known and permanent online presence that has made significant notice of the Whiskey Bards.
> But because Spotify is a subscription site, I cannot rely on it as a reference because many of the links would redirect to a "Please subscribe" page. But for what it's worth, they do have one open song from the group. Fireship Cybotik ( talk) 21:08, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Notability on Wikipedia seems to be based, at least partially, on the personal tastes and opinions of editors. Your (yawn) comment regarding the Rolling Stones is a derogatory personal opinion. It has nothing to do with the guidelines, nor is it a statement of established fact. Your statement about Woodie Guthrie's purely hypothetical album is a prediction of a speculative, alternate-reality future. Again, not about the guidelines. Obviously, you have allowed your own musical preferences to influence your criticisms. Despite your criticism of my reliance on numbers, what it comes down to is a popularity contest. Significant coverage means a number of references. And those references are unlikely to pay heed to any musical act unless they're getting a certain number of dollars in ad sales for covering the popular entertainment. Wikipedia is becoming less encyclopedia and more pop culture. Significant segments of the culture will continue to be underrepresented and even ignored. Cybotik ( talk) 03:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello, Cybotik. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, " The Whiskey Bards".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 ( talk) 16:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Please re-evaluate my draft according to the same standards by which the Wikipedia pages below were accepted. All of them have fewer sources than I do, and some of them use the same sources. You cannot claim I have too few sources when the articles below do not have as many. And you cannot claim that my sources are inadequate as some of them are shared with the articles below. I now have eight more sources than the first article on the list below, and the one valid source on that page is also one of my sources. If that article was acceptable, with only one valid source, then my article should be acceptable, since I used precisely the same source. If my article is not acceptable, then you are using different standards than other editors.
This Wikipedia page, Going_Overboard_(album), has only two sources, one of them invalid, the other is also one of my sources. If it is a good enough source for an already accepted page, it should be good enough for mine.
This music article, Rubber_Biscuit has only three sources, one of them You Tube.
This article about a band, Sparx_(US_band), has only two sources, plus a link to the band's website.
This musical show, EFX_(show) has only two sources.
Cybotik (
talk) 19:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Hydronium Hydroxide
User:Hydronium Hydroxide
I have believe I have already established that Whiskey Bards meet the criteria in [WP:BAND]].
For some reason, every time I prove notability according to Wikipedia's guidelines and history, I get passed off to another reviewer.
Cybotik ( talk) 15:55, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi Cybotik. I've just reviewed Zombie Cafe. The two cites against the name were unnecessary as the third and fourth references show that it exists. A couple of the cites (Simcity, D&D) were not relevant to the article, as they are not about ZC in any way. The major problems with the article are:
~ Hydronium~Hydroxide~ (Talk)~ 12:23, 2 February 2017 (UTC) (if you respond, please ping me by linking to my username, eg: [[User:Hydronium Hydroxide]] or {{ping|Hydronium Hydroxide}}, which will work provided you sign your msg )
@ Hydronium Hydroxide: While the Zombie Cafe article had been examined and approved previously, I recognize the deficiencies you pointed out. I added links to two websites describing game play and added a section (sourced), describing a parent's lawsuit against Apple that was partly based on Zombie Cafe's in-app purchases being sold to children using their parents' accounts. Cybotik ( talk) 12:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:The Whiskey Bards, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.
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Thanks for creating Whiskey Bards, Cybotik!
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You say your article met the criteria for notability. I say it did not. You did not provide evidence of multiple, non-trivial mentions in published works appearing in sources that are reliable. Yes, there were multiple mentions, but they did not fulfil this criterion. Deb ( talk) 07:18, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hello! Cybotik,
I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the
Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the
Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there!
Robert McClenon (
talk) 15:13, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pyrates Royale is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pyrates Royale until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 20:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
> The question I was asking in reference to Peter Paul and Mary was whether undiscovered music by them would get the same media attention as undiscovered music by the Beatles or Michael Jackson.
> The same question could be asked of Woodie Guthrie. Would a new Woodie Guthrie album generate even a hundredth of the press attention as a new Rolling Stones album?
> But the larger question is why do the Wikipedia guidelines give greater weight to a an online local newspaper with a readership of under 1000 than to a YouTube channel, with a worldwide audience, and over 10,000 views?
> And the Whiskey Bards are not simply limited to their YouTube audience. Their music is available on the subscription music service Spotify.com. Spotify has made national news twice recently, first when Taylor Swift pulled her music from their site, and again when the Beatles music became available on Spotify for the first time. Spotify has apps available for iOS, Android, Vizio, Samsung, and Roku. They are certainly a well-known and permanent online presence that has made significant notice of the Whiskey Bards.
> But because Spotify is a subscription site, I cannot rely on it as a reference because many of the links would redirect to a "Please subscribe" page. But for what it's worth, they do have one open song from the group. Fireship Cybotik ( talk) 21:08, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Notability on Wikipedia seems to be based, at least partially, on the personal tastes and opinions of editors. Your (yawn) comment regarding the Rolling Stones is a derogatory personal opinion. It has nothing to do with the guidelines, nor is it a statement of established fact. Your statement about Woodie Guthrie's purely hypothetical album is a prediction of a speculative, alternate-reality future. Again, not about the guidelines. Obviously, you have allowed your own musical preferences to influence your criticisms. Despite your criticism of my reliance on numbers, what it comes down to is a popularity contest. Significant coverage means a number of references. And those references are unlikely to pay heed to any musical act unless they're getting a certain number of dollars in ad sales for covering the popular entertainment. Wikipedia is becoming less encyclopedia and more pop culture. Significant segments of the culture will continue to be underrepresented and even ignored. Cybotik ( talk) 03:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello, Cybotik. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, " The Whiskey Bards".
In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia
mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
or {{db-g13}}
code.
If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 ( talk) 16:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Please re-evaluate my draft according to the same standards by which the Wikipedia pages below were accepted. All of them have fewer sources than I do, and some of them use the same sources. You cannot claim I have too few sources when the articles below do not have as many. And you cannot claim that my sources are inadequate as some of them are shared with the articles below. I now have eight more sources than the first article on the list below, and the one valid source on that page is also one of my sources. If that article was acceptable, with only one valid source, then my article should be acceptable, since I used precisely the same source. If my article is not acceptable, then you are using different standards than other editors.
This Wikipedia page, Going_Overboard_(album), has only two sources, one of them invalid, the other is also one of my sources. If it is a good enough source for an already accepted page, it should be good enough for mine.
This music article, Rubber_Biscuit has only three sources, one of them You Tube.
This article about a band, Sparx_(US_band), has only two sources, plus a link to the band's website.
This musical show, EFX_(show) has only two sources.
Cybotik (
talk) 19:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Hydronium Hydroxide
User:Hydronium Hydroxide
I have believe I have already established that Whiskey Bards meet the criteria in [WP:BAND]].
For some reason, every time I prove notability according to Wikipedia's guidelines and history, I get passed off to another reviewer.
Cybotik ( talk) 15:55, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi Cybotik. I've just reviewed Zombie Cafe. The two cites against the name were unnecessary as the third and fourth references show that it exists. A couple of the cites (Simcity, D&D) were not relevant to the article, as they are not about ZC in any way. The major problems with the article are:
~ Hydronium~Hydroxide~ (Talk)~ 12:23, 2 February 2017 (UTC) (if you respond, please ping me by linking to my username, eg: [[User:Hydronium Hydroxide]] or {{ping|Hydronium Hydroxide}}, which will work provided you sign your msg )
@ Hydronium Hydroxide: While the Zombie Cafe article had been examined and approved previously, I recognize the deficiencies you pointed out. I added links to two websites describing game play and added a section (sourced), describing a parent's lawsuit against Apple that was partly based on Zombie Cafe's in-app purchases being sold to children using their parents' accounts. Cybotik ( talk) 12:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:The Whiskey Bards, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.
If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.
You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.
If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.
Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot ( talk) 01:32, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for creating Whiskey Bards, Cybotik!
Wikipedia editor Jytdog just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:
three drafts failed; it was not correct to just create this after that.
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Jytdog ( talk) 03:52, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
You say your article met the criteria for notability. I say it did not. You did not provide evidence of multiple, non-trivial mentions in published works appearing in sources that are reliable. Yes, there were multiple mentions, but they did not fulfil this criterion. Deb ( talk) 07:18, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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There are an estimated 30,000 different varieties of United States banknotes, yet only a fraction of these are represented on Wikimedia Commons in the form of 2D scans. Additionally, Colonial America, the Confederate States, the Republic of Texas, multiple states and territories, communities, and private companies have issued banknotes that are in the public domain today but are absent from Commons. In the months of November and December, WikiProject Numismatics will be running a cross-wiki upload-a-thon, the 2019 US Banknote Contest. The goal of the contest is to increase the number of US banknote images available to content creators on all Wikimedia projects. Participants will claim points for uploading and importing 2D scans of US banknotes, and at the end of the contest all will receive awards. Whether you want to claim the Gold Wiki or you just want to have fun, all are invited to participate. If you do not want to receive invitations to future US Banknote Contests, follow the instructions here |
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