It seems you know a lot about Italian political parties and Italian politics. Could you write articles about the Democratic Party (Italy) ( it:Partito Democratico (Italia)) and the Freedom Party (Italy) (Partito della Libertà), the proposed unified parties of Prodi's left and Berlusconi's right, respectively? Thanks a lot! — Nightst a llion (?) 15:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Is this info on the date of the foundation of the PD correct? And have there been *any* developments at all regarding Berlusconi's PdL? — Nightst a llion (?) 21:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC) The Party for Freedom article is not improving imho, I would appreciate comments on the talk page, as I feel somewhat isolated in trying to counter what I think is pov pushing. regards -- Isolani 08:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC) Hi! Could you help at Talk:Table_of_political_parties_in_Europe_by_pancontinental_organisation#Sammarinese_parties with classifying a few Sammarinese parties politically? Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 18:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Look at that -- not only are there still plans for the PdL, but we can be fairly certain that both UDC *AND* LN don't want to become part of it. — Nightst a llion (?) 16:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
viene indicato come leader della corrente di sinistra del psi lombardi, ma questi divenne leader della sinistra del psi solo dopo la scissione, quando la sua corrente divenne la sinistra del psi non so se mi hai capito spero di si ciao -- Francomemoria 17:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC) sono iscritto da parecchio anche qui ma non agisco perché eng 1, quindi quanto puoi fallo tu anche se ti vedo impegnato su problematici in ita-- Francomemoria 17:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC) WP:RFD is to be used when you want a redirect actually deleted. When you want to reverse the target and the redirect, you need to use WP:RM. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 16:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
hello there Checco, your move and edits of South Tyrol have been reverted. Gryffindor 10:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
"I noticed that Markusseup, John k, you and me are in favour of changing the name into Trentino-Alto Adige. Do we need to start another survey? -- Checco 09:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)"
Hello, saw your message. Yes, I'll join the conversation. I do believe putting the page back to Trentino-Alto Adige probably makes the most sense, since everyone disagrees with something like Trentino-Alto Adige/Sudtirol. Taalo 09:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Hi Checco, I have reverted your re-naming of articles that use the French names of Quebec political parties. I have reviewed the Wikipedia:Manual of Style and find no support for your decision to rename these articles without discussion. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Article_titles, the main section on article titles, uses the following example:
Notice how the main part of the manual about article titles uses an example where the article title is in a foreign language, with English versions used in the introductory paragraph? Why is that? Well, according to Wikipedia:Naming conventions:
One never, ever sees "Quebecker Party", "Quebecker Block", "Rally for National Independence", etc. The French names are always used. Therefore readers will come to Wikipedia looking for the French names, rather than a translation. You seem to think that English words are preferred over foreign language words in all cases. Please see what Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Use_English_words has to say about this:
In these cases, the native form is more commonly recognized that the English form. If you don't believe me, try Googling the French and English versions of the names, and see how often each comes up with a correct link. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) I hope that this helps you in your future Wikipedia editing. Regards, Ground Zero | t 13:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello Checco, you must realize the history behind this region with respect to what particular users on Wikipedia have done. Gryffindor originally moved the page without consensus. Then rather than move back the page and have a vote to see if it should be moved, there was a vote to see if it should be put back to Trentino-Alto Adige. Nice logic, right? No consensus was reached so it stayed at Trentino-South Tyrol. The page history shows that Gryffindor and another Austrian admin Nightstallion were both involved with this. By Wikipedia rules, they should of had the page moved back and find consensus to move it. It was total convoluted POV hogwash.. discusting partisan politics. Regardless, there is hope that eventually things will be put right. Assume good faith, just don't be naive. :} Taalo 09:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Hi, even though ideally having Autonomous Province of Bolzano and Autonomous Province of Trento would be most correct, this has proven to bring out the users who don't like long titles. :] I'd suggest moving the page back to Province of Bolzano and just keeping a discussion for now. The most important thing for now is getting things corrected. The fine details of Autonomous can be taken care later. regards! Taalo 20:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I really appreciate some help in this. I'm just disappointed that many times there is just German users who come in to tow the National line. You'll see it in the voting. Some users had even removed their German babel notes on their user page to deflect criticism. o_O Taalo 20:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
mi potresti fare un favore? controlleresti se quello che ho scritto nella mia home page è in un inglese coretto? (please, you can see if my home page is in a good english? se eventualemte qualcuno dice che bisogna scrive solo in inglese sulal wiki.en)-- Francomemoria 17:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC) thanks-- Francomemoria 18:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC) Thanks for telling me about the straw poll, didn't notice it. Regards, Hús ö nd 18:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC) I'm thinking to take Mets advice and redo the move requests to Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol and Province of Bolzano (Bozen). This contains the most-used English usage (Trentino-Alto Adige and Bolzano). It is a shared solution, which I like because it has both names. It also clearly retains in the regional name Alto Adige/South Tyrol. What do you think? I don't see how people can argue against a solution like this which includes Wikipedia requirements and also is a fair compromise. Well, you'll get plenty of arguments anyway. :} Taalo 17:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that three-way poll you setup on Trentino-Whatever is good. I'm happy if we can finally get some consensus to go with Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol. That is good for me. Do you want to setup something similar on the province page? What would be the options? Province of Bolzano, Province of Bolzano (Bozen), Province of Bolzano-Bozen. I guess we could add Alto Adige/South Tyrol, though it seems redundant given the regional name. Good work though, amazing if we can get all these people to finally be happy.. and hopefully Martin Se doesn't have to leave English Wikipedia. :} Taalo 18:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I replied on my user talk page. - Jmabel | Talk 18:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC) I've said whatever I had to say. So please stop signalling every little thing. Cruccone 19:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC) I guess one thing to do is make everyone aware of the poll, which we will let go for awhile. I suggest contacting a wide variety of users and not making the similar language-based call to arms that individuals like Gryffindor has done. Taalo 00:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC) In the straw poll those against the current title of the page won 6-2, in the survey those proposing Trentino-Alto Adige are winning 9-8 (but pleas note that between those 8, there are 2 users who explicitly said that they dislike any title not comprising both Alto Adige and South Tyrol, so they oppose the status quo too, making those against the current title win 11-6). Thus there is a clear majority of users against the current title. This is a point of no turning back. From this point we won't need to discuss anymore about Trentino-South Tyrol, 'cos this option has been refused by 11 users out of 17. Now we need to move the discussion on only 3 options: Trentino-Alto Adige, Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol and Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol. If none of the 3 options reaches the majority, we'll have a second round with the 2 most voted ones. What do you think about it? -- Checco 17:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC) Bloody hell this is really difficult to get everyone to come up with a fair and correct agreement. I need to stop thinking idealistic with regards to other's behavior though -- that is for sure. :) Anyway, I really appreciate that you have also been so active to try and navigate a solution. Taalo 08:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC) Yes, of course you are right. Overall, I like this system we have implemented to narrow down a solution. I'm just disappointed that it is just a few of us that do this work to try and find consensus. Others are happy to have their way and let the other side feel unsatisfied. But, that is something we can discuss another time. Good to meet you as well! Didn't get that chance in all this chaos. :} Anyway, I will stay calm. I just hope I don't have to witness anymore of this extreme nationalism, isolationism, seperatism, blah blah blah. :} ciao. Taalo 08:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
checcho, lets be fair and let fantasy and gryffindor vote for trentino-south tyrol if they really must. i believe most people don't want this one-sided solution. we should be the last people to impede the democracy in this situation. i.e., i don't want to do a single thing that these others have done to push a one-sided agenda. Taalo 21:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Look, already six people back a name that is something Province of BZ. You have any disagreement using Province of Bolzano-Bozen instead of Province of Bolzano? Please refer to the discussion I made under your vote on the page. Even in Britannica it lists Bolzano-Bozen. Taalo 20:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC) ho notato che qualcuno nella discussione fa presente la relativa diffusione del termine equivalente inglese tramite ricerca su google ma sarebbe da far presente che fino all'annessione all'italia tutto il trentino alto adige era sud tirolo /sempre se non ricordo male) da cui un errore di base nel confrontarlo con provincia di bolzano (oltre all'errore già segnalato) ciao -- Francomemoria 21:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey Checco, so the idea is to vote now between T-AA/Südtirol and T-AA/South Tyrol? I don't really want just T-AA, but in some ways a bad part of me wants to see if Emes will really live up to his threat (ok, just kidding). The BZ/ST is hard to figure out from the poll. I would tend to say that it is close enough that it requires a split of the page. Maybe one page for the modern province (Province of Bolzano or Province of Bolzano-Bozen). Then the History of South Tyrol to concentrate on the 1800s, etc. One thing that is clear, is there should be a Province of BZ page. Fine if there is a page focusing on the history of South Tyrol as well -- as was commented by some users. Taalo 17:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Hi Checco! What's going on? Why are you reacting so aggressive, fast and unreasonable to my edit? You reverted it here and flagged it as minor, as though I'm some sort of vandal and here again as minor, within two minutes of my action and before I could finish my own explanation. I think you are overreacting, please remain civil and open for debate. C mon 08:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Hmm, well, give it time. I guess people have other stuff to do outside of Wikipedia. :} I'm still trying to decide which to vote for to be honest. I'll go ahead and place a vote now, though I may change it later. :} Taalo 17:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
did you notice the message i posted to trentino-south tyrol? I find it a bit interesting that the User Gryffindor goes and makes a proposal to do Province of Trento to Trentino and Trento to Trent. Then Emes deletes Nones and Solardo, and PhJ insists on adding German translations to Trento. I hope I'm seeing something which is not there, but does it seem like some sort of revenge for the debates regarding AA/ST? Trent is old English for Trento, but Trento is the common English usage now. We want pages to all follow the Province of ... convention, but now Gryffindor tries to reverse another page? Boring... Taalo 17:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Any ideas on how to proceed with this page? There is a slight advantage now to the Province of BZ solution, which also appears to find fairly broad consensus amongst English speakers. My feeling is there is enough voters that want South Tyrol though that we need a split of the article (even though I think the voting clearly shows a strong German POV). I believe this means we can concentrate the history of South Tyrol at History of South Tyrol. Then South Tyrol itself can redirect to the Province of BZ. The two leading options for this page are Province of Bolzano or Province of Bolzano-Bozen. If there is consensus for Autonomous Province of Trento, these pages could eventually be moved as well. What do you think? Taalo 17:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
hello there, there was a mediation offer quite a while ago concerning the issue of Trentino-South Tyrol. I am happy to announce that the issue has been discussed, voted upon and settled. However the mediation offer still needs to be officially closed. Please take a minute to visit the page Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-20 Trentino-South Tyrol and put your signature at the bottom if you agree with the decision, thank you. sincerely Gryffindor 20:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey Checcho, would you mind to setup one of your nice straw polls on Province of Trento as well? I feel perhaps we will need a split on this page as well. Taalo 05:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I've warned him too. Nevertheless, deleting another editors' messages, no matter the provocation, isn't allowed. -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 16:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
That's right. Votes (and remember that the poll shoudl be treated as far as possible as a discussion rather than as a crude vote) can be given more or less weight according to the reasons given and the person making it. I have removed the personal attacks, by the way; that's acceptable — just not removing the comments wholesale. -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 17:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
hello my friend, a quick hello. Icsunonove 22:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Please don't misunderstand what I'm doing. I am going through all links that point to Italian, except those in user space, to change them so that they point to the correct page. Italian is just a Disambiguation page: it links to pages about Italy, Italian language and Italian people among others. Many users add a link to Italian presuming it is about the language or presuming it's a link to Italy, but where the meaning is clear and the link does not match it, it is perfectly acceptable to change the link. The link is "piped" so that the text that appears is the same as that written by the user. Sam Blacketer 10:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Did you see what Gryffindor did on this page? He removed the straw poll and put a move request. Icsunonove 17:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
My advice is to boycott/abstain from that poll on Province of Trento. You can see what they are trying to do and it only makes anyone as small as them to participate. It is all the usual suspects.. Icsunonove 18:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC) The party doesn't receive money from public budget (other parties takes public money) and it has financial problems. It consistently enjoys the support of approximately 2-4% of voters. UPR'candidates were starting from a new conservative-liberal organisation Janusz Korwin-Mikke's Platform (Platforma Janusza Korwin-Mikke). PJKM didn't manage to cross the required 5% threshold in the 2005 parliamentary elections. It party had the support 2% of voters. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.142.72.100 ( talk) 19:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 09:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
— Nightst a llion (?) 10:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Judging by your edits to Federation of Italian Liberals, it seems the liberal parties might merge, too? — Nightst a llion (?) 15:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC) Let me just check whether I understand Democrats_of_the_Left#IV_national_congress correctly: There'll be three mergers. The Democratic Party, a socialist party under the leadership of Fabio Mussi, and a social-democratic/radical/reformist party based on the Association for the Rose in the Fist? — Nightst a llion (?) 08:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC) is needed again. I just went through all articles on Italian political parties on Wikipedia and made sure that the respective party was linked to from either Template:Italian political parties (complete) or from Template:Historical Italian political parties. I also included past coalitions in the latter template. I've got two requests:
Thanks a lot for your great contributions! — Nightst a llion (?) 21:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC) Social Christians -- active or historical? If active, an actual member of the Union? — Nightst a llion (?) 18:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC) There's more. According to it.wiki (I know, not completely reliable), there is a Demo-Christian Federation ( it:Federazione Democristiana), which is formed by Popular–UDEUR, Christian Democracy (new) ( it:Democrazia Cristiana (nuova)) and Refoundation Christian Democracy ( it:Rifondazione DC). Furthermore, we haven't got articles nor links to the Centre Federation – Christian Democrats ( it:Federazione di Centro – Democratici Cristiani), Christian Democratic Party ( it:Partito Democratico Cristiano) and the Party of Christian Democracy ( it:Partito della Democrazia Cristiana). Could you help with any of that? What I would do:
My problem is that this would add Rifondazione DC to the Union-affiliated parties, even though it does not belong to any coalition... What would you do? — Nightst a llion (?) 20:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC) If you've got time, it would be great if you could help write some short stubs for the red-linked parties in Template:Italian political parties (complete), BTW. Thanks a lot for your help! — Nightst a llion (?) 21:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC) And one more question... it:Movimento_Idea_Sociale#La_nuova_azione seems to state there's a new fascist federation called Pact of Action...? — Nightst a llion (?) 21:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
One more question: see Template_talk:Italian_political_parties_(complete)#Possibly_missing_parties. Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 14:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC) You may want to participate in the poll there. Gryf is going a bit mad trying to change things after the T-ST move. :-) Icsunonove 06:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Check out the discussions also on Province of Trento. Actually, it is funny that on the German Wikipedia they list all the provinces except for Province of TN and Province of BZ. They list them as Trentino and Südtirol. So it looks like they simply attempt to enforce the German POV on Wikipedia. Really amazing. :) You know what says a lot though, look at the Italian Wikipedia for Alto Adige some time. Almost all the pages have a very good multilingual layout. You hardly find this on the German Wikipedia for the same region. It would be kind of nice from a humanistic point of view to see some of these people actually calm down and open their eyes. Icsunonove 17:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC) Did I get Centre Federation of Christian Democrats right? — Nightst a llion (?) 14:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
What's this I read here? A referendum campaign for electoral reform? — Nightst a llion (?) 11:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Re [2]: Copyrighted, fair use images may not appear on templates per Wikipedia:Fair use criteria item #9. I have reverted your change, re-removing Image:Logo unione.png and Image:Logo House Of Freedoms.png, both of which are fair use, copyrighted images. Please do not re-add them, or any other fair use images to any non-mainspace pages, including templates. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, -- Durin 16:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC) How is it that all these Lombard people seem even more aggressive than the usual group? Racism, anti-Lombard, anti-everything. The thing is these people apparently are convinced there is some conspiracy against them. boh! :) Icsunonove 17:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Ciao! I just expanded to a decent level the biography of Giuseppe Mazzini. As I am not of English mother tongue, can I ask you help to correct errors and clean up language, if you've time? Bye and thanks for attention. (A note: places of birth/death should be placed in line, not next the dates of b/d) -- Attilios 21:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Could you help me with Template:Italian political party factions? Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 12:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC) Let me just check whether I got them all:
Are those all there currently are? — Nightst a llion (?) 15:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC) Checco, I'm very unhappy that Conservative liberalism is under attack, although I already noted that the article is too close to original research. I urge you to find sources which a) characterize the parties listed as conservative liberal b) say something about conservative liberalism in general. C mon 22:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC) What happens now that the party congresses have agreed to found the PD? Will other parties join? When will the disagreeing correntoni break off? — Nightst a llion (?) 18:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
So what was wrong? - Mgm| (talk) 18:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Ho bisogno con urgenza che qualcuno blocchi l'utente Fotogian poichè rimuove i miei contributi firmati [Paolo esquilino] nella versione in italiano. Non so cosa voglia da me questo pericoloso schizoide ma bloccatelo e ripristinate i miei messaggi del 28 aprile in it:Discussioni utente:AmonSûl intitolato regolamento e in it:Discussioni utente:Ghino di Tacco intitolato commento. Ti saluto cordialmente certo della tua collaborazione. [Paolo esquilino] 28 apr Basta leggere quanto scrive Fabexplosive al termine di questo paragrafo per capire http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Utenti_problematici/Votazioni_sulla_messa_al_bando/IVO#Commenti Fotogian Does this mean the two Communists, Greens and numerous Socialists will also try to merge? — Nightst a llion (?) 15:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
So, has it yet been founded? Time for an article? ;) — Nightst a llion (?) 13:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
It's not a party (at least not yet). There's a wide difference between its structure and Lega Nord's, as Democratic Left never had a single national convention, never ran in an election (and I would't bet it'll do in the next future), and has no local sections. Plus, all national news (and italian Wikipedia) refer to it as "movement" and, last but not least, parliamentary groups does not necessarily need to be parties, such as it happened in the early 2000s with the Canadian Democratic Representative Caucus. -- Angelo 01:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Please do not edit the UUP ideology to Conservative. It is not a conservative party. Traditional unionist 11:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC) Except that it is not Conservative, as the many socalist members (including it's two ministers in the Northern Ireland Executive will testify. The ED group is also eurp sceptic, as to an extent is the UUP. Traditional unionist 14:02, 9 May 2007 (UTC) In your opinion? Take a look at WP:NPOV. It is not conservative in anything other than erroronus opinion. Traditional unionist 15:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC) You clearly stated that your reason for including it was that this was your opinion. It is factually incorrect. Traditional unionist 17:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Please refrain from this edit war, the UUP is not Conservative. Traditional unionist 13:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC) You misunderstand my intentions Checco. If you read my contribution , both those you took exception to and those I have made subsequently you will see that I was making a real contribution.My initial editing was aimed at correcting a couple of minor factual errors and improving the articles style. Though the English is good it was , I am afraid, somewhat 'Italianate' in style. I also wanted to expand the article as the article invited readers to do. I understand that you were trying to protect the article from needless changes and vandalism but to describe what I was doing as such was a travesty. Though it is clear to me that you are making and have made many important contributions to the pages on Italian political movements , both in Italian and in English and I myself have benefited from them, I do think you could have been a little more charitable when assessing my contributions. I was born in England of an Welsh father and an Italian mother , was educated in both Italy and England , teach politics at a British University and thus I think I have a little to offer too. Could you state your opinion at Talk:French_legislative_election,_2007#Article_title? Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 16:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Apart from the scandal surrounding a vice-minister, anything noteworthy? Not really, right? — Nightst a llion (?) 08:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello, could you please stop adding the British spelling of center (i.e., centre) on U.S. political party articles? We use the term "center-left" here not "centre-left". Thank you.-- Jersey Devil 10:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Storace's The Right is the... what, fifth new party this year? ;) — Nightstallion 13:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey Checco, Do you mind checking out TN for a move request? Icsunonove 01:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
According to Der Standard, they only lack 150,000 more signatures for a referendum... How likely is it that they'll succeed? What would that mean for the Italian political landscape? — Nightstallion 17:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Worth an article? — Nightstallion 13:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Checco, Just a little question as I'm not yet familiar with the way userboxes work on WP en: Is it ok to use some of the userboxes that are hosted on your User:Checco/**** pages? Many thanks -- Bombastus 13:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC) I guess we can try again, though I don't have so much confidence in people being unbiased. As far as the name, I tend to think that Province of Bolzano-Bozen would be better because: 1) It is Italian/German (so people will hopefully relax), and 2) it was what we found in Encyclopedia Britannica. What do you think? Anyway, in general I like the pages how they now list at the front Province of XX, and then historical name AA/ST. Everything is there then, so I don't know why people can't be satisfied. Icsunonove 18:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Please check the talk page, we made a mistake in the move. More Italian speakers surround the river. Icsunonove 22:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC) I fear we may be heading for a dispute on the List of Christian denominations by number of members page, although i hope it will be as amicable as possible. I draw your attention to Wikipedia:Three-revert rule prior to making my next edit. If no other editor sees fit to revert, it is not really a question of whether you can or cant accept the edits, it is not your page. A further RV will be against the 3 revert rule and will simply get you blocked. If you leave the page a day or two, there will be a wider debate and other editors can help us come to a conclusion. I do remind you that the only reason drop-down lists exist is because they are clearer. Regards, N-edits 22:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Ciao Checco, penso che la conflittualità con alcuni utenti slavi comunisti sia inevitabile. In particolare l'utente DIREKTOR sta rovinando molti articoli e io non posso più modificarli poichè son stati bloccati agli utenti non registrati: io non posso registrarmi per problemi tecnici. Tu essendo registrato puoi modificarli: mi riferisco a foibe massacres, Istrian exodus, Tito, History of Dalmatia, Zadar e altri. Puoi anche intervenire commentando qui. Mi sembra strano il comportamento dell'amministratore Isotope che prima ha bloccato un IP che rimuoveva la propaganda di DIREKTOR e No.13 poi ha bloccato gli articoli in versioni vandalizzate dagli slavi proprio su loro richiesta. Per farti un'idea di quel che stan facendo questi fanatici leggi i miei messaggi user talk:Lights#Help e user talk:Isotope23#Propaganda. Isotope mi suggerisce request for comment che in versione italiana corrisponde agli utenti problematici ma che significa? Che devo fare?. Puoi rispondermi qui sotto. Cordiali saluti, LEO 20 luglio
Could you fact-check European Parliament election, 2009 (Italy)? I tried to correct the party statistics, but was unsure as to how many MEPs are SD and PD now... — Nightstallion 08:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
It seems it will happen, according to the IHT... when is the most likely date for it to be held? Still little chances of succeeding? — Nightstallion 14:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I've read on the Italian PD page that the ERM may not be part of the PD? — Nightstallion 15:31, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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It seems you know a lot about Italian political parties and Italian politics. Could you write articles about the Democratic Party (Italy) ( it:Partito Democratico (Italia)) and the Freedom Party (Italy) (Partito della Libertà), the proposed unified parties of Prodi's left and Berlusconi's right, respectively? Thanks a lot! — Nightst a llion (?) 15:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Is this info on the date of the foundation of the PD correct? And have there been *any* developments at all regarding Berlusconi's PdL? — Nightst a llion (?) 21:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC) The Party for Freedom article is not improving imho, I would appreciate comments on the talk page, as I feel somewhat isolated in trying to counter what I think is pov pushing. regards -- Isolani 08:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC) Hi! Could you help at Talk:Table_of_political_parties_in_Europe_by_pancontinental_organisation#Sammarinese_parties with classifying a few Sammarinese parties politically? Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 18:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Look at that -- not only are there still plans for the PdL, but we can be fairly certain that both UDC *AND* LN don't want to become part of it. — Nightst a llion (?) 16:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
viene indicato come leader della corrente di sinistra del psi lombardi, ma questi divenne leader della sinistra del psi solo dopo la scissione, quando la sua corrente divenne la sinistra del psi non so se mi hai capito spero di si ciao -- Francomemoria 17:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC) sono iscritto da parecchio anche qui ma non agisco perché eng 1, quindi quanto puoi fallo tu anche se ti vedo impegnato su problematici in ita-- Francomemoria 17:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC) WP:RFD is to be used when you want a redirect actually deleted. When you want to reverse the target and the redirect, you need to use WP:RM. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 16:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
hello there Checco, your move and edits of South Tyrol have been reverted. Gryffindor 10:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
"I noticed that Markusseup, John k, you and me are in favour of changing the name into Trentino-Alto Adige. Do we need to start another survey? -- Checco 09:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)"
Hello, saw your message. Yes, I'll join the conversation. I do believe putting the page back to Trentino-Alto Adige probably makes the most sense, since everyone disagrees with something like Trentino-Alto Adige/Sudtirol. Taalo 09:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Hi Checco, I have reverted your re-naming of articles that use the French names of Quebec political parties. I have reviewed the Wikipedia:Manual of Style and find no support for your decision to rename these articles without discussion. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Article_titles, the main section on article titles, uses the following example:
Notice how the main part of the manual about article titles uses an example where the article title is in a foreign language, with English versions used in the introductory paragraph? Why is that? Well, according to Wikipedia:Naming conventions:
One never, ever sees "Quebecker Party", "Quebecker Block", "Rally for National Independence", etc. The French names are always used. Therefore readers will come to Wikipedia looking for the French names, rather than a translation. You seem to think that English words are preferred over foreign language words in all cases. Please see what Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Use_English_words has to say about this:
In these cases, the native form is more commonly recognized that the English form. If you don't believe me, try Googling the French and English versions of the names, and see how often each comes up with a correct link. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) I hope that this helps you in your future Wikipedia editing. Regards, Ground Zero | t 13:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello Checco, you must realize the history behind this region with respect to what particular users on Wikipedia have done. Gryffindor originally moved the page without consensus. Then rather than move back the page and have a vote to see if it should be moved, there was a vote to see if it should be put back to Trentino-Alto Adige. Nice logic, right? No consensus was reached so it stayed at Trentino-South Tyrol. The page history shows that Gryffindor and another Austrian admin Nightstallion were both involved with this. By Wikipedia rules, they should of had the page moved back and find consensus to move it. It was total convoluted POV hogwash.. discusting partisan politics. Regardless, there is hope that eventually things will be put right. Assume good faith, just don't be naive. :} Taalo 09:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Hi, even though ideally having Autonomous Province of Bolzano and Autonomous Province of Trento would be most correct, this has proven to bring out the users who don't like long titles. :] I'd suggest moving the page back to Province of Bolzano and just keeping a discussion for now. The most important thing for now is getting things corrected. The fine details of Autonomous can be taken care later. regards! Taalo 20:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I really appreciate some help in this. I'm just disappointed that many times there is just German users who come in to tow the National line. You'll see it in the voting. Some users had even removed their German babel notes on their user page to deflect criticism. o_O Taalo 20:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
mi potresti fare un favore? controlleresti se quello che ho scritto nella mia home page è in un inglese coretto? (please, you can see if my home page is in a good english? se eventualemte qualcuno dice che bisogna scrive solo in inglese sulal wiki.en)-- Francomemoria 17:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC) thanks-- Francomemoria 18:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC) Thanks for telling me about the straw poll, didn't notice it. Regards, Hús ö nd 18:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC) I'm thinking to take Mets advice and redo the move requests to Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol and Province of Bolzano (Bozen). This contains the most-used English usage (Trentino-Alto Adige and Bolzano). It is a shared solution, which I like because it has both names. It also clearly retains in the regional name Alto Adige/South Tyrol. What do you think? I don't see how people can argue against a solution like this which includes Wikipedia requirements and also is a fair compromise. Well, you'll get plenty of arguments anyway. :} Taalo 17:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that three-way poll you setup on Trentino-Whatever is good. I'm happy if we can finally get some consensus to go with Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol. That is good for me. Do you want to setup something similar on the province page? What would be the options? Province of Bolzano, Province of Bolzano (Bozen), Province of Bolzano-Bozen. I guess we could add Alto Adige/South Tyrol, though it seems redundant given the regional name. Good work though, amazing if we can get all these people to finally be happy.. and hopefully Martin Se doesn't have to leave English Wikipedia. :} Taalo 18:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I replied on my user talk page. - Jmabel | Talk 18:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC) I've said whatever I had to say. So please stop signalling every little thing. Cruccone 19:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC) I guess one thing to do is make everyone aware of the poll, which we will let go for awhile. I suggest contacting a wide variety of users and not making the similar language-based call to arms that individuals like Gryffindor has done. Taalo 00:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC) In the straw poll those against the current title of the page won 6-2, in the survey those proposing Trentino-Alto Adige are winning 9-8 (but pleas note that between those 8, there are 2 users who explicitly said that they dislike any title not comprising both Alto Adige and South Tyrol, so they oppose the status quo too, making those against the current title win 11-6). Thus there is a clear majority of users against the current title. This is a point of no turning back. From this point we won't need to discuss anymore about Trentino-South Tyrol, 'cos this option has been refused by 11 users out of 17. Now we need to move the discussion on only 3 options: Trentino-Alto Adige, Trentino-Alto Adige/South Tyrol and Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol. If none of the 3 options reaches the majority, we'll have a second round with the 2 most voted ones. What do you think about it? -- Checco 17:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC) Bloody hell this is really difficult to get everyone to come up with a fair and correct agreement. I need to stop thinking idealistic with regards to other's behavior though -- that is for sure. :) Anyway, I really appreciate that you have also been so active to try and navigate a solution. Taalo 08:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC) Yes, of course you are right. Overall, I like this system we have implemented to narrow down a solution. I'm just disappointed that it is just a few of us that do this work to try and find consensus. Others are happy to have their way and let the other side feel unsatisfied. But, that is something we can discuss another time. Good to meet you as well! Didn't get that chance in all this chaos. :} Anyway, I will stay calm. I just hope I don't have to witness anymore of this extreme nationalism, isolationism, seperatism, blah blah blah. :} ciao. Taalo 08:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
checcho, lets be fair and let fantasy and gryffindor vote for trentino-south tyrol if they really must. i believe most people don't want this one-sided solution. we should be the last people to impede the democracy in this situation. i.e., i don't want to do a single thing that these others have done to push a one-sided agenda. Taalo 21:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Look, already six people back a name that is something Province of BZ. You have any disagreement using Province of Bolzano-Bozen instead of Province of Bolzano? Please refer to the discussion I made under your vote on the page. Even in Britannica it lists Bolzano-Bozen. Taalo 20:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC) ho notato che qualcuno nella discussione fa presente la relativa diffusione del termine equivalente inglese tramite ricerca su google ma sarebbe da far presente che fino all'annessione all'italia tutto il trentino alto adige era sud tirolo /sempre se non ricordo male) da cui un errore di base nel confrontarlo con provincia di bolzano (oltre all'errore già segnalato) ciao -- Francomemoria 21:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey Checco, so the idea is to vote now between T-AA/Südtirol and T-AA/South Tyrol? I don't really want just T-AA, but in some ways a bad part of me wants to see if Emes will really live up to his threat (ok, just kidding). The BZ/ST is hard to figure out from the poll. I would tend to say that it is close enough that it requires a split of the page. Maybe one page for the modern province (Province of Bolzano or Province of Bolzano-Bozen). Then the History of South Tyrol to concentrate on the 1800s, etc. One thing that is clear, is there should be a Province of BZ page. Fine if there is a page focusing on the history of South Tyrol as well -- as was commented by some users. Taalo 17:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Hi Checco! What's going on? Why are you reacting so aggressive, fast and unreasonable to my edit? You reverted it here and flagged it as minor, as though I'm some sort of vandal and here again as minor, within two minutes of my action and before I could finish my own explanation. I think you are overreacting, please remain civil and open for debate. C mon 08:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Hmm, well, give it time. I guess people have other stuff to do outside of Wikipedia. :} I'm still trying to decide which to vote for to be honest. I'll go ahead and place a vote now, though I may change it later. :} Taalo 17:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
did you notice the message i posted to trentino-south tyrol? I find it a bit interesting that the User Gryffindor goes and makes a proposal to do Province of Trento to Trentino and Trento to Trent. Then Emes deletes Nones and Solardo, and PhJ insists on adding German translations to Trento. I hope I'm seeing something which is not there, but does it seem like some sort of revenge for the debates regarding AA/ST? Trent is old English for Trento, but Trento is the common English usage now. We want pages to all follow the Province of ... convention, but now Gryffindor tries to reverse another page? Boring... Taalo 17:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Any ideas on how to proceed with this page? There is a slight advantage now to the Province of BZ solution, which also appears to find fairly broad consensus amongst English speakers. My feeling is there is enough voters that want South Tyrol though that we need a split of the article (even though I think the voting clearly shows a strong German POV). I believe this means we can concentrate the history of South Tyrol at History of South Tyrol. Then South Tyrol itself can redirect to the Province of BZ. The two leading options for this page are Province of Bolzano or Province of Bolzano-Bozen. If there is consensus for Autonomous Province of Trento, these pages could eventually be moved as well. What do you think? Taalo 17:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
hello there, there was a mediation offer quite a while ago concerning the issue of Trentino-South Tyrol. I am happy to announce that the issue has been discussed, voted upon and settled. However the mediation offer still needs to be officially closed. Please take a minute to visit the page Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-20 Trentino-South Tyrol and put your signature at the bottom if you agree with the decision, thank you. sincerely Gryffindor 20:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey Checcho, would you mind to setup one of your nice straw polls on Province of Trento as well? I feel perhaps we will need a split on this page as well. Taalo 05:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I've warned him too. Nevertheless, deleting another editors' messages, no matter the provocation, isn't allowed. -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 16:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
That's right. Votes (and remember that the poll shoudl be treated as far as possible as a discussion rather than as a crude vote) can be given more or less weight according to the reasons given and the person making it. I have removed the personal attacks, by the way; that's acceptable — just not removing the comments wholesale. -- Mel Etitis ( Talk) 17:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
hello my friend, a quick hello. Icsunonove 22:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Please don't misunderstand what I'm doing. I am going through all links that point to Italian, except those in user space, to change them so that they point to the correct page. Italian is just a Disambiguation page: it links to pages about Italy, Italian language and Italian people among others. Many users add a link to Italian presuming it is about the language or presuming it's a link to Italy, but where the meaning is clear and the link does not match it, it is perfectly acceptable to change the link. The link is "piped" so that the text that appears is the same as that written by the user. Sam Blacketer 10:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Did you see what Gryffindor did on this page? He removed the straw poll and put a move request. Icsunonove 17:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
My advice is to boycott/abstain from that poll on Province of Trento. You can see what they are trying to do and it only makes anyone as small as them to participate. It is all the usual suspects.. Icsunonove 18:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC) The party doesn't receive money from public budget (other parties takes public money) and it has financial problems. It consistently enjoys the support of approximately 2-4% of voters. UPR'candidates were starting from a new conservative-liberal organisation Janusz Korwin-Mikke's Platform (Platforma Janusza Korwin-Mikke). PJKM didn't manage to cross the required 5% threshold in the 2005 parliamentary elections. It party had the support 2% of voters. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.142.72.100 ( talk) 19:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 09:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
— Nightst a llion (?) 10:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Judging by your edits to Federation of Italian Liberals, it seems the liberal parties might merge, too? — Nightst a llion (?) 15:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC) Let me just check whether I understand Democrats_of_the_Left#IV_national_congress correctly: There'll be three mergers. The Democratic Party, a socialist party under the leadership of Fabio Mussi, and a social-democratic/radical/reformist party based on the Association for the Rose in the Fist? — Nightst a llion (?) 08:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC) is needed again. I just went through all articles on Italian political parties on Wikipedia and made sure that the respective party was linked to from either Template:Italian political parties (complete) or from Template:Historical Italian political parties. I also included past coalitions in the latter template. I've got two requests:
Thanks a lot for your great contributions! — Nightst a llion (?) 21:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC) Social Christians -- active or historical? If active, an actual member of the Union? — Nightst a llion (?) 18:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC) There's more. According to it.wiki (I know, not completely reliable), there is a Demo-Christian Federation ( it:Federazione Democristiana), which is formed by Popular–UDEUR, Christian Democracy (new) ( it:Democrazia Cristiana (nuova)) and Refoundation Christian Democracy ( it:Rifondazione DC). Furthermore, we haven't got articles nor links to the Centre Federation – Christian Democrats ( it:Federazione di Centro – Democratici Cristiani), Christian Democratic Party ( it:Partito Democratico Cristiano) and the Party of Christian Democracy ( it:Partito della Democrazia Cristiana). Could you help with any of that? What I would do:
My problem is that this would add Rifondazione DC to the Union-affiliated parties, even though it does not belong to any coalition... What would you do? — Nightst a llion (?) 20:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC) If you've got time, it would be great if you could help write some short stubs for the red-linked parties in Template:Italian political parties (complete), BTW. Thanks a lot for your help! — Nightst a llion (?) 21:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC) And one more question... it:Movimento_Idea_Sociale#La_nuova_azione seems to state there's a new fascist federation called Pact of Action...? — Nightst a llion (?) 21:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
One more question: see Template_talk:Italian_political_parties_(complete)#Possibly_missing_parties. Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 14:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC) You may want to participate in the poll there. Gryf is going a bit mad trying to change things after the T-ST move. :-) Icsunonove 06:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Check out the discussions also on Province of Trento. Actually, it is funny that on the German Wikipedia they list all the provinces except for Province of TN and Province of BZ. They list them as Trentino and Südtirol. So it looks like they simply attempt to enforce the German POV on Wikipedia. Really amazing. :) You know what says a lot though, look at the Italian Wikipedia for Alto Adige some time. Almost all the pages have a very good multilingual layout. You hardly find this on the German Wikipedia for the same region. It would be kind of nice from a humanistic point of view to see some of these people actually calm down and open their eyes. Icsunonove 17:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC) Did I get Centre Federation of Christian Democrats right? — Nightst a llion (?) 14:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
What's this I read here? A referendum campaign for electoral reform? — Nightst a llion (?) 11:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Re [2]: Copyrighted, fair use images may not appear on templates per Wikipedia:Fair use criteria item #9. I have reverted your change, re-removing Image:Logo unione.png and Image:Logo House Of Freedoms.png, both of which are fair use, copyrighted images. Please do not re-add them, or any other fair use images to any non-mainspace pages, including templates. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, -- Durin 16:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC) How is it that all these Lombard people seem even more aggressive than the usual group? Racism, anti-Lombard, anti-everything. The thing is these people apparently are convinced there is some conspiracy against them. boh! :) Icsunonove 17:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Ciao! I just expanded to a decent level the biography of Giuseppe Mazzini. As I am not of English mother tongue, can I ask you help to correct errors and clean up language, if you've time? Bye and thanks for attention. (A note: places of birth/death should be placed in line, not next the dates of b/d) -- Attilios 21:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Could you help me with Template:Italian political party factions? Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 12:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC) Let me just check whether I got them all:
Are those all there currently are? — Nightst a llion (?) 15:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC) Checco, I'm very unhappy that Conservative liberalism is under attack, although I already noted that the article is too close to original research. I urge you to find sources which a) characterize the parties listed as conservative liberal b) say something about conservative liberalism in general. C mon 22:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC) What happens now that the party congresses have agreed to found the PD? Will other parties join? When will the disagreeing correntoni break off? — Nightst a llion (?) 18:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
So what was wrong? - Mgm| (talk) 18:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Ho bisogno con urgenza che qualcuno blocchi l'utente Fotogian poichè rimuove i miei contributi firmati [Paolo esquilino] nella versione in italiano. Non so cosa voglia da me questo pericoloso schizoide ma bloccatelo e ripristinate i miei messaggi del 28 aprile in it:Discussioni utente:AmonSûl intitolato regolamento e in it:Discussioni utente:Ghino di Tacco intitolato commento. Ti saluto cordialmente certo della tua collaborazione. [Paolo esquilino] 28 apr Basta leggere quanto scrive Fabexplosive al termine di questo paragrafo per capire http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Utenti_problematici/Votazioni_sulla_messa_al_bando/IVO#Commenti Fotogian Does this mean the two Communists, Greens and numerous Socialists will also try to merge? — Nightst a llion (?) 15:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
So, has it yet been founded? Time for an article? ;) — Nightst a llion (?) 13:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
It's not a party (at least not yet). There's a wide difference between its structure and Lega Nord's, as Democratic Left never had a single national convention, never ran in an election (and I would't bet it'll do in the next future), and has no local sections. Plus, all national news (and italian Wikipedia) refer to it as "movement" and, last but not least, parliamentary groups does not necessarily need to be parties, such as it happened in the early 2000s with the Canadian Democratic Representative Caucus. -- Angelo 01:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Please do not edit the UUP ideology to Conservative. It is not a conservative party. Traditional unionist 11:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC) Except that it is not Conservative, as the many socalist members (including it's two ministers in the Northern Ireland Executive will testify. The ED group is also eurp sceptic, as to an extent is the UUP. Traditional unionist 14:02, 9 May 2007 (UTC) In your opinion? Take a look at WP:NPOV. It is not conservative in anything other than erroronus opinion. Traditional unionist 15:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC) You clearly stated that your reason for including it was that this was your opinion. It is factually incorrect. Traditional unionist 17:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Please refrain from this edit war, the UUP is not Conservative. Traditional unionist 13:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC) You misunderstand my intentions Checco. If you read my contribution , both those you took exception to and those I have made subsequently you will see that I was making a real contribution.My initial editing was aimed at correcting a couple of minor factual errors and improving the articles style. Though the English is good it was , I am afraid, somewhat 'Italianate' in style. I also wanted to expand the article as the article invited readers to do. I understand that you were trying to protect the article from needless changes and vandalism but to describe what I was doing as such was a travesty. Though it is clear to me that you are making and have made many important contributions to the pages on Italian political movements , both in Italian and in English and I myself have benefited from them, I do think you could have been a little more charitable when assessing my contributions. I was born in England of an Welsh father and an Italian mother , was educated in both Italy and England , teach politics at a British University and thus I think I have a little to offer too. Could you state your opinion at Talk:French_legislative_election,_2007#Article_title? Thanks! — Nightst a llion (?) 16:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Apart from the scandal surrounding a vice-minister, anything noteworthy? Not really, right? — Nightst a llion (?) 08:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello, could you please stop adding the British spelling of center (i.e., centre) on U.S. political party articles? We use the term "center-left" here not "centre-left". Thank you.-- Jersey Devil 10:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Storace's The Right is the... what, fifth new party this year? ;) — Nightstallion 13:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey Checco, Do you mind checking out TN for a move request? Icsunonove 01:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
According to Der Standard, they only lack 150,000 more signatures for a referendum... How likely is it that they'll succeed? What would that mean for the Italian political landscape? — Nightstallion 17:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Worth an article? — Nightstallion 13:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Checco, Just a little question as I'm not yet familiar with the way userboxes work on WP en: Is it ok to use some of the userboxes that are hosted on your User:Checco/**** pages? Many thanks -- Bombastus 13:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC) I guess we can try again, though I don't have so much confidence in people being unbiased. As far as the name, I tend to think that Province of Bolzano-Bozen would be better because: 1) It is Italian/German (so people will hopefully relax), and 2) it was what we found in Encyclopedia Britannica. What do you think? Anyway, in general I like the pages how they now list at the front Province of XX, and then historical name AA/ST. Everything is there then, so I don't know why people can't be satisfied. Icsunonove 18:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Please check the talk page, we made a mistake in the move. More Italian speakers surround the river. Icsunonove 22:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC) I fear we may be heading for a dispute on the List of Christian denominations by number of members page, although i hope it will be as amicable as possible. I draw your attention to Wikipedia:Three-revert rule prior to making my next edit. If no other editor sees fit to revert, it is not really a question of whether you can or cant accept the edits, it is not your page. A further RV will be against the 3 revert rule and will simply get you blocked. If you leave the page a day or two, there will be a wider debate and other editors can help us come to a conclusion. I do remind you that the only reason drop-down lists exist is because they are clearer. Regards, N-edits 22:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Ciao Checco, penso che la conflittualità con alcuni utenti slavi comunisti sia inevitabile. In particolare l'utente DIREKTOR sta rovinando molti articoli e io non posso più modificarli poichè son stati bloccati agli utenti non registrati: io non posso registrarmi per problemi tecnici. Tu essendo registrato puoi modificarli: mi riferisco a foibe massacres, Istrian exodus, Tito, History of Dalmatia, Zadar e altri. Puoi anche intervenire commentando qui. Mi sembra strano il comportamento dell'amministratore Isotope che prima ha bloccato un IP che rimuoveva la propaganda di DIREKTOR e No.13 poi ha bloccato gli articoli in versioni vandalizzate dagli slavi proprio su loro richiesta. Per farti un'idea di quel che stan facendo questi fanatici leggi i miei messaggi user talk:Lights#Help e user talk:Isotope23#Propaganda. Isotope mi suggerisce request for comment che in versione italiana corrisponde agli utenti problematici ma che significa? Che devo fare?. Puoi rispondermi qui sotto. Cordiali saluti, LEO 20 luglio
Could you fact-check European Parliament election, 2009 (Italy)? I tried to correct the party statistics, but was unsure as to how many MEPs are SD and PD now... — Nightstallion 08:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
It seems it will happen, according to the IHT... when is the most likely date for it to be held? Still little chances of succeeding? — Nightstallion 14:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I've read on the Italian PD page that the ERM may not be part of the PD? — Nightstallion 15:31, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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