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- Hello Cengime, somebody says "Shakespeare evidently knew", and you believe there is a real evidence for his suggestion. Such an approach is not quite correct in science, I am sorry. Moreover, maybe your editings are not quite good for the mainstream case. I am a little bit older than you, and I know the world quite well. Take care, -- Zbrnajsem ( talk) 10:19, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- We are not doing science. We are writing an encyclopedia. Articles should reflect what the reliable sources say even if editors disagree with the experts' judgement. - Cal Engime ( talk) 17:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
The question is, given that "Shakespeare" is undergoing a paradigm shift, how do we determine what sources are "reliable"? For example James Shapiro's book *Contested Will* is cited multiple times in articles dealing with the authorship question, even though reviews have often shown the book to be faulty to the core and full of elementary mistakes. Just wondering when Wikipedia is going to start learning from its own mistakes.-- BenJonson ( talk) 16:43, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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Catechism of Saint Pius X, without citing a
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Veverve (
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- The article is about books which state the dates of their publication. Those books are the source. Please have a look in the books which are the subject of the article, the Compendio della dottrina cristiana and the Catechismo della dottrina cristiana, before once again restoring the former text which is no less unsourced, and also is false. That you found the false date "1908" already existing on Wikipedia is not a justification for repeatedly restoring it to the article in the face of what the sources clearly say. -
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- One last time: WP:BURDEN, Wikipedia:Citing sources. Veverve ( talk) 07:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Cengime! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of
Catechism of Saint Pius X several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the
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- The sources are clear. The book was published in 1905. You have not stated any reason for your belief that it was published in 1908. I do not consider this a legitimate dispute. - Cal Engime ( talk) 12:32, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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