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In the redirect Talk:Yuriy Norshteyn, the bot changed the target to Talk:Yuri Norstein but also erased the {{ R from move}} template. But the template should stay there. In general, if a redirect is tagged as an R from move, the bot should not erase the template from the corresponding redirect talk page, which will usually also be a redirect from a move. The bot edit will usually happen when A has been moved to B and then a page mover swaps B with a redirect C that had no talk page, resulting in Talk:B being redlinked after the move. In this case, some double-redirect fixing bot will retarget A to C and then Bot1058 will retarget Talk:A to Talk:C before AnomieBOT III could have otherwise recognized Talk:A as a broken redirect. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 14:00, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
I moved Atti (village) to Atti, Jalandhar, then retargeted the redirect to the dab page at Atti (there are several villages with the name), then I realised that we only have an article about one of them at the moment, so I quickly undid my edit (so that now Atti (village) is again a redirect to Atti, Jalandhar). But in the meantime, the bot has managed to repoint Talk:Atti (village) to the dab pages's talk page. I don't think I'm the only who occasionally makes such mistakes, and otherwise there are bound to be a lot of moves that get quickly reverted, so I'm wondering if it wont' be a good idea to have some sort of time delay to the bot's operation. What do you think, Bot1058? – Uanfala (talk) 15:33, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Mainspace edits by task 3 or 4 – edit conflicts. wbm1058 ( talk) 18:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
This is concerning an edit on Talk:Paramyxovirus. The bot removed the {{ WikiProject Viruses}} header in addition to the redirect. I do not think other talk headers should be removed. -- Nessie ( talk) 15:35, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Please stop and/or show discussion that confirms this is what is required.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Richhoncho ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
It seems that Bot1058 and the double redirect fixing bots AvicBot and EmausBot are edit warring on Talk:Kate Lee (musician). Syncing the unsynchronized redirect had cause a double redirect to be created, while fixing the double redirect had caused the redirect to become unsynchronized. Is there a way to stop the two bots from edit warring with each other? GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 19:43, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
The bot sometimes creates duplicate talk pages with for task 3 when an article and its talk page is moved from "X" to "X (qualifier)" and the DAB is moved from "X (disambiguation)" to "X" but the person who moves the DAB page to the base name forgets to move the DAB page's talk meaning "Talk:X" still redirects to "Talk:X (qualifier)" so the bot then tags "Talk:X" with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} but the older talk page stays at "Talk:X (disambiguation)". I notice this and request at WP:RMT ( example) but its quite possible many people simply don't notice this. Quinn and Talk:Quinn were fixed with the edit history of the duplicate at Talk:Quinn (disambiguation). I therefore suggest that when "X" is a DAB but "Talk:X" redirects to "Talk:X (qualifier)" or similar but "Talk:X (disambiguation)" exists with a {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} that the bot does not replace the "Talk:X" redirect with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} but instead produces a list of such cases so that they can be fixed manually namely by moving the DAB pages talk to the base name.
As a side note I'd also suggest the bot should tag the talk page of DAB pages that don't yet have a talk page with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} as well as talk page of DAB pages in other namespaces like categories with {{ category ambiguous}} but I realize this will probably need a new bot request. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 17:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
I had converted
Owen Brennan into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Owen Brennan page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
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Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 12:59, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
I had converted
Hill Road into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Hill Road page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 04:15, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
I had converted
Cameron Thompson into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Cameron Thompson page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 05:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
forcerecursivelinkupdate
on the templates that populate these categories, that might fix it. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 20:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
The bot seems to be removing {{ R from move}} when a page move has been indicated in the page history. Per {{ R from move}} For all redirects that have a page move logged on their history page(s), add this rcat in the following manner: this removal is incorrect. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 07:11, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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Retrieving Talk:Stop Funding Fake News contents...
GET: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=revisions&rvslots=main&titles=Talk%3AStop+Funding+Fake+News&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content|timestamp (0.10400605201721 s) (397 b)
GET: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=revisions&rvslots=main&titles=%3AStop+Funding+Fake+News&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content|timestamp (0.10900592803955 s) (475 b)
#REDIRECT [[Talk:Stop Funding Misinformation]]
{{Redirect category shell|
{{R from move}}
}}
#REDIRECT [[Center for Countering Digital Hate]]
{{Redirect category shell|
{{R from merge}}
}}
Target: Talk:Stop Funding Misinformation (:Stop Funding Misinformation)
Subject target: Center for Countering Digital Hate sync needed
GET: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=revisions&rvslots=main&titles=Talk%3ACenter+for+Countering+Digital+Hate&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content|timestamp (0.13300704956055 s) (24931 b)
Change Talk:Stop Funding Fake News contents to: #REDIRECT [[Talk:Center for Countering Digital Hate]]
POST: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=edit&format=json&assert=user (0.34102010726929 s) (193 b)
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The goal of Category:Unsynchronized talk page redirects is to ensure that talk pages redirect to the same page that their article-space page redirects to.
Why does this bot remove wikiproject banners from redirect talk pages that are also redirects? Redirects support wikiprojects, and the banners allow the functioning of the ArticleAletsBot to track pages and inform the related wikiprojects of AABot tracked nomination for that page.
"Unsynchronized" doesn't seem to cover this case, since partial disambiguation can be covered under a particular wikiproject (ie. "(song)" or "(album)" where multiple such exist, but it would make sense for WPSONG or WPALBUM to track these redirects)
-- 64.229.88.43 ( talk) 03:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Bot1058 "endorsed" a vandal's edit and after someone reverted the vandal the bot's edit wasn't reverted until another editor noticed and reverted it. wbm1058 ( talk) 20:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Dear Bot1058,
I had converted
Hey Angel into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Hey Angel page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 15:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
#REDIRECT [[Talk:Lock Up the Wolves]]
{{Redirect category shell|
{{R from move}}
}}
{{
Talk page of redirect}}
template which is not helpful for my bot. I'm currently working on a bit of a project to reduce the number of talk pages with {{
Talk page of redirect}}
on them by replacing them with the appropriate redirects. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 04:18, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Should it be doing this [2] ? This would mean that this redirect is now untracked by AAlertBot ( talk · contribs) and WP:Article Alerts will not work with such pages. -- 65.92.246.191 ( talk) 06:43, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
With this edit the bot removed talk page content, which it should never be doing. Thryduulf ( talk) 11:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Anomie & wbm1058 — I'm not sure which is in the wrong here but if you see Talk:Jean Gabriel Marie (1907-1928) the two bots are having an edit war that started back 25 April 2023. Regards KylieTastic ( talk) 15:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Xtools edit count gives a table of the bot's most-edited pages in Talk: namespace, as of today:
Edits | Page title | Links |
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734 | Talk:Jean Gabriel Marie (1907-1928) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
43 | Talk:Syrian Republic (1946-1963) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
16 | Talk:Wacky Races (video game) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
15 | Talk:Merry-Go-Round (song) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
15 | Talk:Merry-Go-Round (album) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
11 | Talk:Time Traveller (album) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:The Dive (film) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:Kate Lee (musician) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:Heroes (album) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:Heroes (film) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
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Note: Archives may be refactored. |
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In the redirect Talk:Yuriy Norshteyn, the bot changed the target to Talk:Yuri Norstein but also erased the {{ R from move}} template. But the template should stay there. In general, if a redirect is tagged as an R from move, the bot should not erase the template from the corresponding redirect talk page, which will usually also be a redirect from a move. The bot edit will usually happen when A has been moved to B and then a page mover swaps B with a redirect C that had no talk page, resulting in Talk:B being redlinked after the move. In this case, some double-redirect fixing bot will retarget A to C and then Bot1058 will retarget Talk:A to Talk:C before AnomieBOT III could have otherwise recognized Talk:A as a broken redirect. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 14:00, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
I moved Atti (village) to Atti, Jalandhar, then retargeted the redirect to the dab page at Atti (there are several villages with the name), then I realised that we only have an article about one of them at the moment, so I quickly undid my edit (so that now Atti (village) is again a redirect to Atti, Jalandhar). But in the meantime, the bot has managed to repoint Talk:Atti (village) to the dab pages's talk page. I don't think I'm the only who occasionally makes such mistakes, and otherwise there are bound to be a lot of moves that get quickly reverted, so I'm wondering if it wont' be a good idea to have some sort of time delay to the bot's operation. What do you think, Bot1058? – Uanfala (talk) 15:33, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Mainspace edits by task 3 or 4 – edit conflicts. wbm1058 ( talk) 18:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
This is concerning an edit on Talk:Paramyxovirus. The bot removed the {{ WikiProject Viruses}} header in addition to the redirect. I do not think other talk headers should be removed. -- Nessie ( talk) 15:35, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Please stop and/or show discussion that confirms this is what is required.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Richhoncho ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
It seems that Bot1058 and the double redirect fixing bots AvicBot and EmausBot are edit warring on Talk:Kate Lee (musician). Syncing the unsynchronized redirect had cause a double redirect to be created, while fixing the double redirect had caused the redirect to become unsynchronized. Is there a way to stop the two bots from edit warring with each other? GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 19:43, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
The bot sometimes creates duplicate talk pages with for task 3 when an article and its talk page is moved from "X" to "X (qualifier)" and the DAB is moved from "X (disambiguation)" to "X" but the person who moves the DAB page to the base name forgets to move the DAB page's talk meaning "Talk:X" still redirects to "Talk:X (qualifier)" so the bot then tags "Talk:X" with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} but the older talk page stays at "Talk:X (disambiguation)". I notice this and request at WP:RMT ( example) but its quite possible many people simply don't notice this. Quinn and Talk:Quinn were fixed with the edit history of the duplicate at Talk:Quinn (disambiguation). I therefore suggest that when "X" is a DAB but "Talk:X" redirects to "Talk:X (qualifier)" or similar but "Talk:X (disambiguation)" exists with a {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} that the bot does not replace the "Talk:X" redirect with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} but instead produces a list of such cases so that they can be fixed manually namely by moving the DAB pages talk to the base name.
As a side note I'd also suggest the bot should tag the talk page of DAB pages that don't yet have a talk page with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} as well as talk page of DAB pages in other namespaces like categories with {{ category ambiguous}} but I realize this will probably need a new bot request. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 17:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
I had converted
Owen Brennan into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Owen Brennan page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
-
Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 12:59, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
I had converted
Hill Road into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Hill Road page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 04:15, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
I had converted
Cameron Thompson into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Cameron Thompson page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 05:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
forcerecursivelinkupdate
on the templates that populate these categories, that might fix it. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 20:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
The bot seems to be removing {{ R from move}} when a page move has been indicated in the page history. Per {{ R from move}} For all redirects that have a page move logged on their history page(s), add this rcat in the following manner: this removal is incorrect. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 07:11, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Console report
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Retrieving Talk:Stop Funding Fake News contents...
GET: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=revisions&rvslots=main&titles=Talk%3AStop+Funding+Fake+News&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content|timestamp (0.10400605201721 s) (397 b)
GET: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=revisions&rvslots=main&titles=%3AStop+Funding+Fake+News&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content|timestamp (0.10900592803955 s) (475 b)
#REDIRECT [[Talk:Stop Funding Misinformation]]
{{Redirect category shell|
{{R from move}}
}}
#REDIRECT [[Center for Countering Digital Hate]]
{{Redirect category shell|
{{R from merge}}
}}
Target: Talk:Stop Funding Misinformation (:Stop Funding Misinformation)
Subject target: Center for Countering Digital Hate sync needed
GET: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=revisions&rvslots=main&titles=Talk%3ACenter+for+Countering+Digital+Hate&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content|timestamp (0.13300704956055 s) (24931 b)
Change Talk:Stop Funding Fake News contents to: #REDIRECT [[Talk:Center for Countering Digital Hate]]
POST: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=edit&format=json&assert=user (0.34102010726929 s) (193 b)
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The goal of Category:Unsynchronized talk page redirects is to ensure that talk pages redirect to the same page that their article-space page redirects to.
Why does this bot remove wikiproject banners from redirect talk pages that are also redirects? Redirects support wikiprojects, and the banners allow the functioning of the ArticleAletsBot to track pages and inform the related wikiprojects of AABot tracked nomination for that page.
"Unsynchronized" doesn't seem to cover this case, since partial disambiguation can be covered under a particular wikiproject (ie. "(song)" or "(album)" where multiple such exist, but it would make sense for WPSONG or WPALBUM to track these redirects)
-- 64.229.88.43 ( talk) 03:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Bot1058 "endorsed" a vandal's edit and after someone reverted the vandal the bot's edit wasn't reverted until another editor noticed and reverted it. wbm1058 ( talk) 20:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Dear Bot1058,
I had converted
Hey Angel into a disambiguation page just recently. The bot did not convert the talk page of the Hey Angel page from a redirect to a disambiguation talk page.
Aravindhan Ravikumar (
talk) 15:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
#REDIRECT [[Talk:Lock Up the Wolves]]
{{Redirect category shell|
{{R from move}}
}}
{{
Talk page of redirect}}
template which is not helpful for my bot. I'm currently working on a bit of a project to reduce the number of talk pages with {{
Talk page of redirect}}
on them by replacing them with the appropriate redirects. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 04:18, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Should it be doing this [2] ? This would mean that this redirect is now untracked by AAlertBot ( talk · contribs) and WP:Article Alerts will not work with such pages. -- 65.92.246.191 ( talk) 06:43, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
With this edit the bot removed talk page content, which it should never be doing. Thryduulf ( talk) 11:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Anomie & wbm1058 — I'm not sure which is in the wrong here but if you see Talk:Jean Gabriel Marie (1907-1928) the two bots are having an edit war that started back 25 April 2023. Regards KylieTastic ( talk) 15:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Xtools edit count gives a table of the bot's most-edited pages in Talk: namespace, as of today:
Edits | Page title | Links |
---|---|---|
734 | Talk:Jean Gabriel Marie (1907-1928) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
43 | Talk:Syrian Republic (1946-1963) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
16 | Talk:Wacky Races (video game) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
15 | Talk:Merry-Go-Round (song) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
15 | Talk:Merry-Go-Round (album) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
11 | Talk:Time Traveller (album) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:The Dive (film) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:Kate Lee (musician) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:Heroes (album) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
10 | Talk:Heroes (film) | Log · Page History · Top Edits |
More… |