Archive 9: December 20, 2005 – January 29, 2006

Antandrus -- is there any way I could convince you to write a brief survey of renaissance music for French Renaissance (if you find the time!!)? You are the expert in these things, and the Renaissance music article lacks specificity on the French experience. Thanks-- NYArtsnWords 23:17, 20 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks! Really nice overview and a great addition to that page. Let me know if I can ever return the favor.-- NYArtsnWords 01:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I am deeply apolagetical about the deletion Mikal just wasent born In Gerorgia I was trying to email you regaurding the unpleasant deletion and You have some respectable intrests some same as mine. I apreciate you being a member and your services of this communitarian website best of luck .I hope you have no hard feelings and a merry Christmass please get back to me on this. My apolagies- -- Jon T Bruinline 01:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC)Jon T Bruinline reply

Antandrus, thanks for your support on my RFA. I was rather suprised at the overwhelming support I received. Thank you for your confidence in me. I hope that I'll live up to your expectations in the future as well. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 05:45, 21 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Gherardello da Firenze, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

What do you think of the movement? Reply here. Thanks. -- Kin Khan 03:16, 22 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hey Antandrus! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was an unanimous (45/0/0), so I am now an administrator. If you need help, or have a question, please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D -- Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 03:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Antandrus, thanks for your support regarding Pfistermeister on Talk:Gustav Mahler. I gave him short shrift after his subsequent vitriolic attack. Now, he's been smarmy again at Talk:Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, so he copped it with both barrels again. How do I get to attract these people? Whatever happened to nice? BTW, I love the pic on your page. Cheers JackofOz 11:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC) reply

The links are being reinserted, but on a more selective basis. I am reverting them and putting messages on the Talk pages. I don't discount the possibility of relevance, but there is nothing to persuade me that this site is an authority. - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/ _[C] AfD? 13:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I would like to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year. Guettarda 18:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you Antandrus for reverting the vandalism from my personal user page! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Bonaparte talk 16:11, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

You're welcome, and merry Christmas to you and your family as well! Antandrus (talk) 16:12, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

What can be done because that name ßonaparte is almost identical with my user name, Bonaparte? Can be deleted as it was created for sure to vandalize my page, account User:ßonaparte must be deleted. Bonaparte talk 16:19, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Usernames can't be deleted. I blocked it indefinitely (that's standard procedure for impostors; we get them every day). I'll put an {{indefblockeduser}} on it. Antandrus (talk) 16:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Oh God thank you! You were very kind and very quick how did you saw so much fast, by the way? -- Bonaparte talk 16:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

You're welcome... I spotted it while watching Special:Recentchanges. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 16:32, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi, I've created progress charts for WikiProject World music. Please come by and help document what we have! Hopefully, a record clearly showing where our holes in coverage lie will help move all world music articles along in the right direction. Tuf-Kat 19:06, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Have a Proper and Merry Crimbo. File:Pressie.gif, in fact here is a pressie from the Doctor to you. Ho. Ho. Ho! File:Unclecrimbo.gif Dr. McCrimbo 22:49, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi Encyclopedist,

I semi-protected your user page just now because of a vandalism spree. You can still edit, but anons and newly-logged-in users can't. Let me know if you'd like protection removed and I will at once. By the way, excellent work on Military history of African Americans; I noticed that go up yesterday. Keep up the good work and don't let the vandals get to you. Antandrus (talk) 22:04, 23 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you, I am sorry that people are so foolish as to think that they have the right to vandalize my page. Thank you again for protecting my page from vandalism, and I wish to keep this protection for a long while. Quick thanks for the compliment on the article as well, I hope I can get it to FA some day. ε γκυκλοπ αίδεια * 00:23, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Take care, ε γκυκλοπ αίδεια * 00:24, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I uploaded an image of Ari Meyers within the the accordance established by Wikipedia (source and licence) and someone put it up for deletion because "it is unencyclopedic". The image is of good taste and just because it is a wallpaper image I don't think it should be deleted. Please view and if you can, express your opinion. Images and media for deletion/2005 December 24 Thank you, Tony the Marine 03:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I agree with you; there's nothing wrong with using that image. By all means it should be kept. I posted to that effect on the page. Merry Christmas Tony! Antandrus (talk) 03:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

from Tony the Marine 07:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Merry Christmas, Antandrus! May you and your family and friends have a wonderful holiday season! -- HappyCamper 22:57, 24 December 2005 (UTC) reply

• I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. -- Bhadani 16:02, 25 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you! And a happy new year to you, in warm Chennai! Antandrus (talk) 16:12, 25 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi, I see that you have done some fine work on some early music manuscripts. I have an interest in illuminated manuscrits and while looking around for info on Anglo-Saxon manuscripts, I came across the Hereford Troper (aka as the Cotton Troper) (British Library, Cotton Caligula A XIV). Here is the British Library catalog page (in Latin). here, here, here, and here are some images. (Click on the image on each page to get a larger copy. Are you familiar with this manuscript? How significant is it for music history? Is the musical notation 11th century addition, or is it a later addition? At some point I will be writing an article on this manuscript, based on its illumination, but I fear that I will be hopeless to discus from musicologist's point of view. Dsmdgold 16:31, 27 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi Dsmdgold,

Thanks for the note about the Hereford/Cotton Troper. That's marvelous! I didn't know about that manuscript until now, but I'd be happy to add to any article you start. There's a bit about it in the New Grove, and I can probably write some about the specific type of music notation it employs. It's dated from right around the time of the conquest (third quarter 11th century), and was probably copied at Winchester or Worcester.

Related question(s) -- do you know where we can get usable images, or if the images at the British Library can be used by Wikipedia? I need some for the Old Hall MS as well as for the (as yet unwritten) Winchester Troper. Best wishes, Antandrus (talk) 17:43, 27 December 2005 (UTC) reply

On your related question first. The BL. like, all large instituitions. will tell you that their images are copyrighted. However under US law, mechanical reproductions of two dimensional works of art in the Public Domain are also in the public domain (see Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp.). I have used images off the British Library site on Wikipedia. I am always carefull to crop the image so that there is no three dimensional aspect and scrub and or crop off the annoying red British Library logo that is often in the lower right corner. A nice image of the Old Hall manuscript is here. It even lacks the annoying logo!

As to the Cotton Troper, I will move its article to the top of my list and let you know when I get something up, probably not till later in the week though Dsmdgold 18:13, 27 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi, Antandrus... Good to see you register at CPDL. Thanks for your nice comments there. I left a short reply on your user talk page there. Chuck 00:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

So you claim Regara, Jake Remington and the North Carolina vandal are all the same. Can you show any edits made by one or the other that show these connections? 68.39.174.238 03:39, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

PS. BTW, Why is your usrpage protected?

Hmm

OK, indefinate preventative protection seems suspiscious but it's currently per page so ñ. Anyway I'm trying to cleanup/categorize deal with the vandal pages and accounts. Having a definitive setup for NCV/Remington/Regara and proof of interconnexion will help ;). 68.39.174.238 03:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi Antandrus, Kat told me you might be interested in a little whim of mine at User:Kosebamse/stuff#Weep_o_mine_eyes. Suggestions are always welcome, and those based on personal experience of course even more. Thanks, Kosebamse 21:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Would you happen to be familiar with a band piece where the first of 4 movements is called "Flourish"? -- HappyCamper 03:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

This is driving me insane...I know the piece...I've played it...I know what it sounds like...is there an easy way of writing music for Wikipedia? I still do it by hand...Another one...have you heard something called the "Howard Symphony", or something similar to that. It has a beautiful French horn solo... -- HappyCamper 03:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

You might interested in having a look at this discussion and perhaps commenting; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Marissa_Marchant Best wishes Musikfabrik 10:19, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

...for your suggestions User:Kosebamse/stuff#Weep_o_mine_eyes (comments here). I would be grateful for a handful more opinions (but I don't want to make it a big project right now - it's just a whim after all), so if you know of another one or two Wikipedians with some expertise... Thanks again and a happy new year, Kosebamse 10:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

SHOCK SHOCK! Can you believe there wasn't an article about him already? Anyway...what's the right spelling? I'm confused. And where did you find all that terrific information about him? I was looking ALL OVER and couldn't find any. (such as birthdate, for example.) Thanks for helping!-- Violin G irl ^♪ 15:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

What would be even more scarey is if Joshua Bell turned up red...but, I'm glad to know it won't. I'm glad to meet another violinist, too! I keep meeting more and more, for which I'm glad. At first, I thought we were almost extinct on Wikipedia! ;) I'll be working more tonight, so I'll see what I can do with him. (WEIRD about his name...have to figure that one out!) -- Violin G irl ^♪ 15:39, 30 December 2005 (UTC) reply

You're welcome! I think you'll be great on the job. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 04:17, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

8-D KnowledgeOf Self | talk 04:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Happy New Year from Tony the Marine

I wish you all the happiness in the world and remember, if an injustice is ever committed against you or one of your articles, I will always be by your side. Your friend Tony the Marine

Note: Ari Meyers Image Results: 15 "Keep" / 2 "Delete" *However, I, the Marine. decided to replaced the image with one that has a clearer copyright status, thank you because you have shown to be a just person. Tony the Marine 06:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Do you know whether we have an article on his sonata in C minor for violin? -- HappyCamper 06:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Is there a good user who uses that account range? -- HappyCamper 17:19, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Yes...I saw that this morning. I think I might make it a hobby to follow that guy around. I have had no luck tracing the IP any further. -- HappyCamper 20:33, 31 December 2005 (UTC) reply

I just now started an article on 19 equal temperament, and cited the claim that Costeley wrote Seigneur Dieu ta pitié in 19 notes to the octave. Do you have any futher information on that? Gene Ward Smith 23:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your response. I've written Lorenz, and perhaps I can find out for you what he has to say about Costeley. I'd love to get a 19 equal midi file of this chanson.

Hey, you remember me? My brother was on here using the name Andrewin and making all kinds of stupid edits? Well, anyway, I opened my laptop a second ago and my brother had logged in under the name Caliente001. I don't know what he was doing, but with him, you never know. He wouldn't tell me anything, so I don't know what he might have done. Roygene 05:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC) reply

He's just trying to be a nuisance. There was no second bombing in the attack. Roygene 18:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Gamaliel violated the 3RR rule at John Kerry today. Here are the diffs:

1. 05:19, 5 January 2006 - [1]
2. 05:23, 5 January 2006 - [2]
3. 09:03, 5 January 2006 - [3]
4. 02:54, 6 January 2006 - [4]

He's an admin so I don't want to tangle with him, but something should be done. If you study the reverts he made, they were clearly made against non-vandal edits. For this reason, Gamaliel should not be allowed to flaunt the 3RR simply because he's pushing his own preferred text instead.

Our "friend" Voice of All has unilaterally put a redirect on List of sexual slurs to make it redirect to Sexual slang. This was done without any discussion or consensus. He then removed the edit option from the page to undo his vandalism. Can you do anything about this admin/vandal? 155.84.57.253 14:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your kind words on my nomination for bureaucrat. I'm disappointed with the results, but heartened by the support I received by so many fine Wikipedians. You're "one of the good-uns", as they say. – Quadell ^{( talk) ( bounties)} 08:32, 7 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for removing the vandalism from my user page! -- Ixfd64 17:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC) reply

You're welcome; I get a particular pleasure out of zapping userpage vandalism. Anything to make Wikipedia a more decent place. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 17:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC) reply

User 12.210.1.200, who has been blocked, asked me to send this to an administrator: "I wasn't aware a talk page existed to add opinions. I apologize for my transgressions and request a less stiff ban than the one issued to me. I will happily accept a 24 or 48 hour penalty for my mistakes." He has been blocked two or three times before and has been warned more times than I have evr seen ANYBODY be warned before. I think you should stick to the week ban; but it is your call.-- Holocron 20:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC) reply

I used to be one of them. -- Holocron 02:59, 8 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Your friend has promised never to cause problems again. Joyous | Talk 04:24, 8 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Francs2000's Bureaucratship

Thanks for your support on my request for bureaucratship.

The final outcome was (70/5/0), so I am now a bureaucrat. I seriously didn't expect so many good comments from everybody and I appreciated the constructive criticism from those that gave it. If you have any queries, suggestions or problems with any of my actions as a bureaucrat then please leave me a note. -- Francs 2000 21:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks, Ant. I can't believe this guy. I was aware of him, but I wasn't aware of the extent of the damage he's attempted to do here. Thank goodness for users like you and Curps. That poor sonofagun gets a real ration of bilgewater from the vandals and still he keeps on keeping on. I appreciate the help and support. I'll consider cutting the break short if you need a hand. Signing off for now, but drop me an e-mail and let me know what's up. Best, Lucky 6.9 03:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply

I'm surprised someone would want to impersonate me ... --- ProveIt 18:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC) I've removed the bogus vote ... is that the right thing to do? reply

For my Boston Globe story about Wikipedia, Antandrus, I'm looking for an avid and vigilant vandalism-fighter to chat with, by phone, I hope. I've noticed the efforts you've made in the Harriet Tubman article. You can reach me at mehegan@globe.com. David Mehegan, The Boston Globe.

Thanks for the message; I just left you a voice-mail. Best, Antandrus (talk) 23:48, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply

I, and someone else ( User:Gex Terimilu) both request that you unban this seemingly innocent user. Wadiff and Binnable 18:23, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Please unban that account. I will use it only for good.

If you do not successfully unban the account, and unprotect the user page, then I will start vandalizing again. 63.19.130.171 16:11, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Unban, now. Litecoveria 23:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Is that a threat? Antandrus (talk) 23:16, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Unban and I might stop vandalizng. Litecoveria 23:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Unban Remington and the Rattlesnakes.

If you want me stop vandalizing, then the worst thing you can do is not respond.

Stop vandalizing. It's your decision, it's the right thing to do, and this is the last time I'm telling you. Antandrus (talk) 03:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply

I have not given up vandalism. Maybe you should have unbanned RATR. Litecoveria 03:35, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply

You're welcome! You were an excellent candidate and will be a fine admin. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 03:25, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply

...with great interest. LOL! Let me know if you need a hand :-) -- HappyCamper 03:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply

No, I wasn't aware of that actually. It's buried under so much other stuff. The funny thing for me was that the first apology came right after I called his ISP! -- HappyCamper 03:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Gilles Joye, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

-- Gurubrahma 09:59, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply

[5] -- ◀Puck ^talk▶ 05:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply

... and blocking a user who has been vandalising both my User page and my talk page, both as an anon and with a username that was chosen as part of a campaign of attacks against me. I have also put in a request for a block of the stalker/vandal's name. Again, many thanks for the vandalism patrol! B.Wind 06:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Hey Antandrus, hear you got interviewed by the Boston Globe. They're supposed to interview me today. What kind of stuff did they ask you about? Kaldari 20:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Greetings! I answered you by e-mail. Antandrus (talk) 21:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Greetings! Just dropping by your talk page again for a visit. :-) Wondering if they published the story yet; do let me know when it comes out! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 21:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply

My user page is much better without the vandalism. Thanks a lot! Batmanand 17:33, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply

You're welcome. I love catching userpage vandalism. Best, Antandrus (talk) 17:35, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Dear Antandrus,

You have contributed an amazing number of articles on early music, and what's more, each of those articles is of a strikingly high quality. For significantly raising the level of culture on Wikipedia, I would like to award you the Barnstar of High Culture! Your work here is an inspiration to me and, I'm sure, many others. Thank you for sharing your good work with us! -- Sesquialtera II 15:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Hi Antandrus, I was recently range IP blocked by Curps, you can read my post to the WikiEN-I mailing list with the link below. Anyway, to summarize what I wrote in that post: I recognize that the N.C. Vandal is a severe problem, as is any persistent attempt to destroy or mangle Wikipedia content.

I just moved to N.C. and signed up with NetZero, hoping to contribute to some articles and perhaps start some of my own, but I quickly found out that I had been range IP blocked in an attempt to stop the N.C. Vandal. That's all well and good and I respect the methods used to stop/hinder this person, but I was logged in at the time and my account has never been blocked or banned or accused of vandalism.

So why am I telling you this? Couple reasons. First, you're easy to get a hold of and approachable. Second, I thought I saw something in the past when you range IP banned the N.C. Vandal and in the "Reason" section you said that if anyone innocent wanted to contribute when they were logged in, to tell you. I don't know how that would have worked because anyone innocent would not be able to post anywhere to contact you, not even in user talk pages.

In any case, I see this problem coming up in the future. At the moment the N.C. Vandal is range IP blocked and I am not, but I can't count on always being this lucky. So, I was wondering if there was some way perhaps within the banning software, perhaps on a personal email level outside of automated software, for you to unblock me if I am logged in and range IP blocked.

Before I forget, here are the links to the message I posted on the WikiEN-I mailing list: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-January/037159.html

Two responses: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-January/037161.html http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-January/037165.html

Do let me know. Thanks. -Snpoj

Thanks for blocking the anon. [6] Travb 16:21, 18 January 2006 (UTC) reply

You're welcome! Those are usually kids at a school computer, so usually I use a 3-hour block. Antandrus (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Hey, I'm a pretty new editor here, and I've noticed that you've done a lot of good edits on early music stuff. I'm wondering if you could do me a big favor and check out an article I just wrote Venus and Adonis (opera) and give me any comments you might have on how to improve it, and also to double check me with new grove to make sure I haven't accidentally gone from sourcing to plagiarising. It's difficult, since basically the only reliable sources I have available right now are recordings, new grove, and Grout (which I find problematic). Thanks for any help. Makemi 18:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for checking it out, Antandrus. Makemi 22:03, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply

It looks good, and it's definitely not plagiarised. I like the way you ended it with the bit about Moll Davies and Lady Mary Tudor. Nice work! Antandrus (talk) 22:27, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

For reverting the vandalism on my user page. VegaDark 01:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply

You're welcome; I love reverting userpage vandalism. I like the Wiki to be a pleasant place. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 01:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply

What are your feelings on a consistent format for Grove 2nd ed.? I think it might make sense to always reference the online version or the print version. Since the online edition is more up-to-date ( [7] [8]), although comparatively only a few articles have changed, maybe we should use that one. I do like the look of a book reference more than a website reference, though. - Sesquialtera II 02:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Ah, I hadn't seen that page! Since they clearly indicate how to cite sources, I agree that we should simply cite each individually, although it seems a little overkill in places. I have updated Template:NewGrove2001 and made Template:GroveOnline - see if you like them, and maybe we can start converting Grove references across Wikipedia to the templates. - Sesquialtera II 20:32, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply

User:Pa-merynaten has contributed an odd mix of contributions. Some are outright vandalism of text, others are unusable image uploads that I've already removed from articles, others are perfectly legit edits. Perhaps more than one person is using the account. Could you help keep an eye on this user? Joyous | Talk 03:35, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Hey, thanks for the post on my talk. I'll be sure to post my IP if I'm accidentally blocked. Thanks again.

-snpoj

Si tu as le temps, could you fill me in on the story of User talk:FighterforfreedomIV and User talk:FighterforfreedomV? I blocked the latter based on your block of the former. Cheers! -- HappyCamper 03:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Where do WikiAirplanes take Wikipedians to? :-) -- HappyCamper 06:16, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for welcoming me. Wikipedia is great - it's hard keeping away! Latinus 17:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I had seen you change the sock tags on some of the "Cunios", and looked into why they had been changed. Thanks for the heads up, I'll call if I need some help or see something odd. Thanks. -- LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 16:02, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

I saw you blocked GDFM. Besides the outright claim that he/she was Cunio, what other evidence do you have that they are the NCV? Was a checkuser run? They hadn't seemed to have made any disruptive edits... yet. Thanks for your help. -- LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 22:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Okay... I knew I had seen stuff about Cunio in NCV's past. Here's just one example... [9]. Thanks again for your help. -- LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 22:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for that diff! saved me a search. :-) Antandrus (talk) 23:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

No problem... there are other instances, but that is just one of the more obvious. Also, now see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Danielle_Cunio if you haven't already. Cheers. -- LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 23:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

[10] another. Antandrus (talk) 02:30, 23 January 2006 (UTC) reply

LV, read what I said on your talk page. It is important, and may be why I was mentioned here by the NC vandal. IWKA 23:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Why does the longer, more informative version of that page keep being reverted? Doikhoikin 03:00, 23 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Ask someone who has reverted it. Antandrus (talk) 03:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC) reply

If they are truely legit edits I don't mind them staying, and would be minorly OK with invoking IAR, however if it comes down to it I wouldn't be too depressed for too long over mass reversion of that usrs contributions. 68.39.174.238 03:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC) reply

HeHe. More likely you'll get "Antandrus is trailer trash" since this IS Jake Remington. That or "Аntаndrus", which has been happening alot lately. 68.39.174.238 03:42, 23 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Sorry about the Dante Alighieri page. I must have messed up while doing a revert. Maxwahrhaftig 18:36, 24 January 2006 (UTC) reply

communism has been vandalized over five times in the past hour, could you prevent people from editing it?

Dear Antandrus:

Please take time to read my e-mail to Wikipedia and all legal notices following.

I have asked many, many, times, the link to my Univesity's Independent New Service, is not removed; in fact, removal of it, is a violation of State and Federal Election laws.

Thank you for your assistance with this exceptionally urgent matter, and I request to hear from you today.

Sincerely,

Paul Hale Founding, Alumni Editor-in-Chief The Clayton State Independent TM theindependent@georgia.com

Elected, Senior Student Government Association Senator

12 January 2006

Wikipedia

helpdesk-l@wikimedia.org

Dear Sir or Madam:

On September 30, 2005, The Clayton State Independent TM came into being as the lone alternative news and information voice for students, alumni, faculty, and the communities served by Clayton State University located in Morrow, Georgia.

During the nearly forty year history of the university, only one student newspaper has existed. Due to recent court rulings, and due to influence of others, our university directed student paper, has had almost no change in its format and presentation of news of importance to students and their parents.

The Independent sm made its first news post on September 30, 2005, with the announcement of a yearly, local, cultural event. The Independent sm first provided a link to its web site on Wikipedia, on November 11, 2005.

Recently, The Independent sm has been under attack by persons who do not wish to have made available to the public, news, facts, information, and events that would not be otherwise known to the university student body, parents, and communities affected by Clayton State. The Independent's sm commentary is frank, biting, and vital, at our campus, where historically, there has only been one side of the news presented.

One objector to The Independent sm, appears to be a member of the university community, which is to be expected in any pluralistic community; the other, a person(s) not affiliated with the university community, rather, a seller of used computers, whose selling techniques and grossly inflated prices, were revealed in several Internet postings made by The Independent sm. That person, is known to law enforcement agencies, has been served with several cease and desist orders, and their Internet Service Provider notified.

The Independent sm desired to contact Wikipedia earlier today regarding continuous removal of our link on the Wikipedia site, however, breaking news and educational obligations, prevented my earlier contact Wikipedia. Tonight, I completed a scholarship packet for myself, for Medical School, due tomorrow afternoon in Chicago. It bears the recommendations of MD’s and PhD’s all whom know me intimately. Writing this letter prevented me from taking my scholarship application to the airport for overnight delivery. Accordingly, I will take the packet personally to Chicago, in the Morning.

Accordingly, The Independent sm asks Wikipedia to consider the following:

When The Independent sm first posted its link of Wikipedia, there were several untrue claims about the university on the Wikipedia / CSU page, among them our university has "five lakes," instead, it has a lake and four small ponds, and campus population statistics were grossly incorrect for diversity and population.

The Clayton State Office of Image boasts CSU as being the third university in the nation to mandate laptop ownership for all students. In a recent article, The Independent sm revealed the facts behind mandated laptop ownership, under the guise of "access to" or "shared use of a laptop."

The Independent sm illuminated deceptive practices used by Clayton State University, Dell, and Gateway Computers, to sell students and their unsuspecting parents laptops costing $1000 to $1500, when a computer costing only $50, would work just as well.

In recent articles, racial discrimination by Blacks against Asians, Caucasians, Latinos, Asian-Indians, Middle Easterners and Native Americans, have been presented to the university body. The Independent sm was able to present these articles, due to my election to the University Student Government Association, as the Senior University Senator.

During my tenure, I learned a Gay student was severely beaten by three men– Under the direction of a SGA Officer - And this week, because of The Independent’s sm efforts, the university has witnessed the resignation of the SGA President, a thirty year old man, following The Independent sm running an article on his assaulting a female on campus - As stated by three university police officers.

At Clayton State, there is a history of deception utilized by university administration to promote the hidden curriculums of the University.

Clayton State University is located in Clayton County, Georgia, where the average combined SAT score is 860. The Independent sm firmly believes that to raise SAT scores, requires The Independent’s sm, independent voice, to increase awareness of the low scores and serve as the impetus for improving the quality of primary, secondary, and higher education, making all known information available, to persons seeking complete information about the Clayton State campus.

I have matriculated at CSU three times and am a fourth-generation Atlantan. I have also served as Director of Student Life and Campus Security for a private university concern, and as a Campus Facilities Management Assistant, at a private university.

I kindly request Wikipedia would allow the posting of The Independent’s sm link on its pages: http://Groups.Msn.Com/ClaytonStateStudents.

Outside of The Independent sm, there are no additional, external links of relevance, other than a link to the University System of Georgia web site: www.usg.edu; all student organization links can also be found at www.clayton.edu.

Our independent voice is becoming recognized as one of the most important University web sites in America, as we are not politically affiliated, logically-oriented and seek only to publish truth and genuine commentary.

Please contact The Independent sm with any questions or comments you might have, and I will be pleased to answer any concerns and questions you have. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Paul Hale

Founder, Alumni Editor-in-Chief

The Clayton State Independent TM

The First Student and Alumni Operated Independent Newspaper at Clayton State,

Where you are the Reporter sm

http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Clayton_State_University&action=history

If you want your link added, you need to do the following:

1) Cease, at once, making legal threats. No one has any "right" to add anything to Wikipedia and have it stay there unedited by others. Read the license you agree to every time you open an edit-this-page box. By hitting save page you agree to license your contribution under the GFDL.

2) Make a case for adding the link on the article's talk page. Editing Wikipedia is a collaborative enterprise, and we operate by consensus.

A little reflection will show you that it is impossible for everyone to have an absolute right to have their little bit of whatever added to any article. We are building an encyclopedia, and all additions are subject to "merciless editing" by anyone. Thanks. Antandrus (talk) 17:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Hi, thanks for the welcome back. I'm not sure that graduate work really is fun, although it's certainly something I choose to do. Sometimes I think it's a little bit like what Mark Twain (I think) said about a classic — that it's a book everyone wants to have read but nobody wants to read. Maybe having a doctorate is more attractive than doing a doctorate! I actually find undergraduate courses more fun! Cheers. AnnH ^(talk) 00:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Hello. My students are doing reports and one is on Bill Cliton. We have done so much research on him, and Oh no! Oops! You forgot a major event about his son. He denied all claims, but his picture looks just like him says a lot of our research, thus we looked ourselves. We added important information that you did not have here and you removed it? What? Please resond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.211.171.182 ( talk • contribs)

He doesn't have a son, he has a daughter. If you want a reputable source, by all means find one; don't read the tabloids. Antandrus (talk) 04:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on one of my User pages. I appreciate your vigilence. Best wishes. WBardwin 08:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC) reply

You're welcome!  :-) Antandrus (talk) 16:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Goes double for me, man. What is is with some people? I tell you, I'm just not in a good mood tonight, but at least I wrote a couple of articles in the meantime.  :) Oh, and I had the pleasure of putting the ol' permanent whammy on the guy. All his edits were pretty silly. - Lucky 6.9 06:00, 29 January 2006 (UTC) reply

And to think: Here it is, a Saturday night, and I'm diddling around with Wikipedia. I must be nuts!  :)) - Lucky 6.9 06:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC) reply

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{ EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! -- Cel e stianpower ^háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC) reply
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User:Anti-Vandal should be blocked indefinitely. All it's been doing since its creation is vandalism. Thanks. - Eagle ^{a m n} 21:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Never mind. - Eagle ^{a m n} 21:33, 29 January 2006 (UTC) reply

'tis done.  :-) Antandrus (talk) 21:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC) reply